Furlough Days
They did this a number of years ago - only exempt members since they aren't covered by an actual contract:
- Talked to a neighbor who is cfd, rumor has it the command staff will be asked to take unpaid furlough days next year. I’m betting cpd will be next.
Labels: fire fighters, rumors
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
62 Comments:
FUNNY we cant even get a regular day off???
PUT me in ill take 2 months unpaid off! JUNE and JULY
City don’t have money— not for CFD or CPD that is— I bet you they come up with money some place else tho. This whole city don’t have money is pure bullshit. I seen it time and time again how the city pays for this and that.
Enjoy those white shirts you have and your new unpaid furlough days
CPD command staff has been taking furlough days since 2008. Nothing new here. When I was a commander I had to take 17 furlough days per year just as long as they weren’t over the summer. I believe it’s now up to 20 days per year for commander and above pay grades. The days can’t be taken back to back though.
Let the exempts take them, after all they're really political creatures anyway.
Yeah, City Hall applying the budget screws again to exempt members. I hope they like having their balls squeezed.
How about a compromise here.No more RDO,s cancelled and no more 12 Hour Days and everyone gets paid furlough days and can take comp time as they need to.
As I recall they took unpaid days but were expected to go into the office
and keep the paperwork flowing. Worked for free.
This is an excellent idea and Carter should get another award for thinking of it,
even though he didn't.
Good, fuckem
Absolutely!Lets give all the CPD Command Staff the 1st 2 weeks of November off as unpaid furlough days.How about stopping the cancelling of days off and the extending of tours of duty to 12 hours?I know the Mayor is anti religion so why not also give all the CPD Civilian employees the last 2 weeks of December off as unpaid furlough days?
Or they could also just do away with 25% of the exempt positions.
Operationally the department would likely be unaffected, and the savings would be huge.
Also cut half the aldermen while we’re at it.
Back late 2000’s, around ‘07 thru ‘10 maybe, anybody that was Commander or above had to take 12 unpaid days off a year. But, you couldn’t take them at once. You had to take one unpaid day off a month. Wouldn’t be surprised if they make it two days a month now for all exempts. Also think Captains, who are not exempt but are appointed, will be strongly encouraged to take at least a day a month. Don’t be surprised to see any Lt that wants to become a Captain or Commander volunteer to do it as well.
after the 911 shutdowns and tax losses the city workers took furlough days in about 2003. i think we took 3 each. well worth it if it worked but all the bail outs and bail ins in the world wont help these politicians. if trump gave groot 20 billion tomorrow, bitch wouldnt pay one past due bill or put a dime in the pensions. she would just send more shiny bking to the ghetto with palm cards telling dude who to vote for. its later than you think kids.
If it'll reduce that bloated pension they get, give 'em 15 unpaid days per year, every year. Maybe we can get Beetle Juice to take 15 unpaid days off per year to reduce the number of days she can damage what left of the tax base here.
Fuck em! The exempts can give up half of their pay as far as I’m concerned. They all hide when shit hits the fan.
F U Groot, pay me
You are correct when you said this happened a number of years ago. What happened next was the experienced, more senior Battalion Chiefs said “No Thanks” when offered an exempt rank promotion, there is no incentive in getting promoted and making less money ( explain that to the wife), and having no union representation. So now we are still feeling the affects of that with less experienced, non combatant, power hungry yes men ( and women) as bosses. It will most certainly get worse.
Well if they don’t take money away from police and fire, how the hell is bugeyed ugly assed Mayorass going to be able to take all her weekend trips???
I can't recall if that effects their pension.
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What they need to do is get rid of the ignorant administrative aides working the desk. Third watch 012 has two of the nastiest and laziest women. They get up and walk away when people walk in. One is excessively rude using the f bomb repeatedly. They have no respect for supervisors who order them to take reports. Why we have them is beyond me. They are useless and a waste of money. It’s their job to take reports if they won’t do that then get rid of them. If my memory serves, if there are layoffs or cuts civilians are the first to go. Those two need to be one and two.
I heard 22 furlough days for command staff next year.
Thats ok with me!! Fuck em, let them get paid what they are worth = 0!!!!!
One of the best things McCarthy ever did (OK, maybe the only good thing he ever did) was to end this practice.
Just like that rank was given and not earned, so is that paycheck. Take it away.
This already happened in the private sector this year. Management took one week per month furloughed with no pay. Without a contract your employer can adjust your pay without notice. But hey your still a boss.
Retired ISP here, Governor George Ryan wanted everyone to take an unpaid furlough day. I took the Monday after the Superbowl.
FOP said you cannot do it, you have to layoff Troopers according to the contract by seniority.
That summer everyone who had already taken the furlough day given two days off with pay.
The program was terminated and taking an unpaid furlough day was no longer required.
Did they tell all these company men about that before the tears began flowing and the activity speech was given at comcrapper.
If you accept the rank, you have to accept the crap that goes along with it.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Hasn’t Chicongo cops not had a contract for three years? What’s this “covered” bs, Willis?
They’ll make it up 1000 fold on their bloated pension checks.
Hey Lari, don’t know about the fire side, but you could probably cut 10-20 CPD exempt spots with ZERO impact on anything within the department. Eliminate the captain rank altogether and there is more saving for the tax payers.
You’re Welcome!
It was 12 days per year for all exempt and non union civilian. It ran from middle of 2009 to middle of 2011.
Exempts should be taking pay cuts. They are way overpaid and appointed due to their clout either political or nepotism. Each makes a minimum of bout 150,000 a year bankrupting the city and our pension. Group of overpaid idiots, then we don't need furlough days problem solved police defunded money saved on pension!
Larri wont call it a defund measure, but what was old is new again.
I recall sometime around 2008 so Exempts had to take No pay furlough days, maybe a week or twos worth over the course of a year. On top of No pay, getting shipped out across town, and belittling at monthly meetings, they had a difficult time finding anyone to apply for the DC position. The axman JFed Experiment couldn’t find volunteers. Did 007 have a combo DC-Dep Chief and they enlisted Henny~Penny to run 011, probably the shortest period for a DC on record.
Fuck that, I say give them a month off, useless anyway. And these civilian bosses, give them two. Most have been "working from home" and haven't been seen in months, except at their summer homes in Michigan, Wisconsin, etc. Plenty of fat to trim at CPD. Stay with all of Bobby Book's promoters.
Yes it's true. Talked to an exempt friend of mine on Wednesday and he said all exempts have to take 13 unpaid furlough days next year. That's more than two weeks pay.
About 2006-2007 they pulled the same stunt & had the exempts take a handful of unpaid days by the end of the year.
My commander strung them along, then retired in November of that year without giving them shit.
I'm sure none of the current lapdogs would have the stones to do that today.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Back late 2000’s, around ‘07 thru ‘10 maybe, anybody that was Commander or above had to take 12 unpaid days off a year. But, you couldn’t take them at once. You had to take one unpaid day off a month. Wouldn’t be surprised if they make it two days a month now for all exempts. Also think Captains, who are not exempt but are appointed, will be strongly encouraged to take at least a day a month. Don’t be surprised to see any Lt that wants to become a Captain or Commander volunteer to do it as well.
9/06/2020 01:49:00 AM
Any captain in their right mind (I know), would tell them to fk off!
Although appointed, at least they have some contract protections.
I guarantee many of the CFD exempt will revert back to their bargaining unit rank !!!
Groot's Latest Financial Genius Idea:
Rolling Furloughs
(this from a mope who never even worked retail)
I remember regular city workers taking 23 furlough days in one year and no paid overtime (comp time instead).
DOnt worry about exempts taking any time.
All they care about is hitting 4 years in grade exempt pay.(GOLD BRAID)
and off into the abyss with special ED.
SO for you not so great at math yea you lose a few weeks but do you really think the exempt of Constitution actually puts time in to be off?
Ask any time keeper how many commanders use any comp time? 3 hours here half a day there. never swiping. take home car so always can say you working. Have you ever seen how many hours exempts cash in when the retire?
so if the mayor offers you an exempt spot take it your salary will be the same for retirement purposes and being retired is forever.
Yeah, OK...I remember this happening about 10 years back, the exempts were all promptly given raises afterwards
The union trades will probably also take a hit, Larry will try to shame the cpd and cfd into doing it also while the teachers stay home get paid and get drunk!
Escamerit took a 7 day unpaid furlough a while back. Oh yah, that was a suspension. Sorry about that.
I heard 22 also. More than a months pay. Captains will make more than Deputy Chiefs.
They will take the furlough days because they have to. They do not have a say in the matter. Some will threaten to go back to Lieutenant but they never will. They crave the power which is what makes them horrible supervisors.
The democrat politicians just keep trying to treat underlings so well. The real sad thing is there will be a shitload of followers vote for them, no matter how bad they get fucked..
Yeah, and then they all got secret "bonus" checks to return the money. Except the exempt working in civilian jobs, like Streets and San, Water, etc. But for sure the Police Command got payed back.
No need to worry, the Mayor will fix all of this when she borrows Three Trillion Dollars, to fix the budget, pensions. pay all the bills, give everyone a huge raise.
Sleepy Joe Biden has his checkbook ready.
But if Trump wins look out, the toil;et will flush, and we will work for free.
I hear that flush sound getting very close.
$3,000,000,000,000.00, no problem Chicago, just add more zeros!
F....U....Mayor!
She can have her gold star back. I’ve already taken a huge pay cut with all of the cancelled days off and 12-hour days. And now she wants me to work MORE days for free? Screw it. Thanks but no thanks. I barely make 20 Year PO pay now when you divide salary by number of hours worked.
So what?
They’re getting the fat exempt, political appointee pensions.
8:21AM......
Yes!
Eliminate 25 exempts and all Captains.
Exempts are earning at least $180,000 a year nowadays. Sergeants are at $120,000. Lieutenants at $130,000. Captains at $140,000. Remember when we all get a raise, exempt gets a raise too.
Anonymous said...
She can have her gold star back. I’ve already taken a huge pay cut with all of the cancelled days off and 12-hour days. And now she wants me to work MORE days for free? Screw it. Thanks but no thanks. I barely make 20 Year PO pay now when you divide salary by number of hours worked.
9/06/2020 07:00:00 PM
If you have 20yrs in then apply to be a Chief in some little town.
She can have her gold star back. I’ve already taken a huge pay cut with all of the cancelled days off and 12-hour days. And now she wants me to work MORE days for free? Screw it. Thanks but no thanks. I barely make 20 Year PO pay now when you divide salary by number of hours worked.
9/06/2020 07:00:00 PM
F- this no good job all together.
There's a lot of bullshit exempt spots that need removed, on CPD and CFD both. Too many 6 figure Commanders and Ombudsmans and Deputy Chiefs in charge of paper clips because they're too useless to do the actual job.
Anonymous said...
She can have her gold star back. I’ve already taken a huge pay cut with all of the cancelled days off and 12-hour days. And now she wants me to work MORE days for free? Screw it. Thanks but no thanks. I barely make 20 Year PO pay now when you divide salary by number of hours worked.
9/06/2020 07:00:00 PM
Then revert back now you fucking coward. Nobody here had any sympathy for you.
Anonymous said...
Exempts are earning at least $180,000 a year nowadays. Sergeants are at $120,000. Lieutenants at $130,000. Captains at $140,000. Remember when we all get a raise, exempt gets a raise too.
9/07/2020 12:36:00 AM
Very untrue! I know for a fact that the exempts have not gotten a raise in at least six years. Many of them are pissed at the fact that Captains, when you figure in their quarterly, uniform, and differential checks are earning as much, if not more than Commanders.
You shouldn’t have more than 10 exempt spots
Captains or Lieutenants should be in charge if Districts And Units Units . Perk is the hours , weekend off and take home car .
Way too many chiefs.... totally agree with getting rid of these police aides. Lazy and useless. Haters
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