Avoidable Shortage
Typical incompetency by the CPD administration:
- A friend tested positive for Covid and was given 26 NOV as his return to work date. When he called the medical section last week (after a total of 19 attempts since they stopped answering the phone the week before), he was told he wouldn’t be able to return til 30 NOV “because of the holiday”. So does that mean the medical section will be closed thurs thru sun, during a manpower shortage because of a pandemic? What?Another friend had to call the medical section 32 times before someone down there answered the phone last Monday, his 14th day of being off after testing positive. Medical section told him to just return to work on his next working day after the two week period. Ummm mostly any and every other employer require two negative tests to return to work and you can’t show ANY symptoms. The medical section and CPD apparently couldn’t care less if people are returning to work still sick, which will just continue this cycle.
This has been hinted at and complained about in the comment section for a week or more now. Everywhere is short, but part of it is a failure to release healthy people back to work. The other part appears to be bypassing protocols so infected people don't return to work, and this further exacerbates the most recent outbreak.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
75 Comments:
Trying to get off medical? Cmon man I would be happy they didnt answer. Thats just more time at the camper or riding the harley
The medical section told me to return to work after 14 regardless if my second test came back positive. According to my nurse there are first responders guidelines that state that inspire of being positive you can return to work as long as there are no symptoms. Has anyone received the same answer?
Who in the %#^^ cares. Yay off as long as possible. Call once a day and be done with it. Why are we complaining here ?
Just got back from having covid. Not ONE phone call from medical section or from any “contact tracers” or whatever those people are called. Zero communication as to what the protocol was. Needed to call close to 100 times to get someone to finally answer when I tried to clear.
I guess the 1 hour and a 1/2 lunch the case workers take doesnt help. Stay away from 1130 to 1pm!!
Did you ever think that just maybe the medical doesn’t care.
Domestic courts are no in person hearings or trials for 3 weeks . FOP gives two shit about the members who still are force to attend training placing members at risk!!! And we are worried about returning to work from COVID-19 wow take as much time as you need and if the medical section gives you a date to return back just enjoy the time off and continue to take care of “you”.
Why keep making attempts to get a hold of someone down at the medical section? It says to leave your name, employee# and a callback number. So just sit back and relax.
We’ve got multiple people on our watch that actually want to come back to work because there’s so much OT being offered because there is no manpower at all on the watch anymore. They are being told they can’t come back for a myriad of reasons. One until they see a doctor and the doctor says it’s ok, even after over two weeks off and haven’t had symptoms in over a week. Others can’t get through at all to the medical section so they gave up and are just staying on the medical until they hear from the medical. Another was told they need to bring a negative test in showing they don’t have it anymore, after over three weeks on the medical because they keep going round and round with the medical section. Fuck is it a nightmare dealing with them. Whoever is running the show down there needs to be thrown out to midnight in 003 or something. It’s a pandemic and at a time when we need our medical section the most it is totally failing us. Total shit show down there.
Call the nurse direct at 5-5005. She's in after 9 and very nice.
The tests are not even close to being 100% accurate
When you test positive it’s a minimum of 14 days away. It’s the CDC NIH etc guidelines. Lightfoot has been saying it’s 14 days even if you’re not positive but were exposed. There’s electronic billboards saying 14 days for just traveling to a Covid state(whatever that means)even if you never saw a single person. However, I’m recovering from Covid now and still sick and it’s been 16 days. Still have a cough. So everyone is different but rushing people back to work is only going to continue the problem the department created by packing cops on busses.
Too many people are faking illness just to try and get free time off. They say they have symptoms and take 14 days off and come back with a negative test. Of course the medical section is overwhelmed, they put a bunch of do nothing dollies down there and a bigger group of useless pieces of shit are faking illness just to be bigger dogs. The guys who are really sick are the ones getting the run around. Pathetic!
I want to know how everyone is catching this and I haven't. I consider myself careless and sloppy, but nothing.
Yeah they having me return back to work after 14days. I told medical section that I took a second test just to see, and they told me I didn't have to take another test because it'll read positive for the next 90 days...WTF so am I contagious still???
Had to basically threaten the handler to get them to release me with a negative test. After like four calls in the am and then being told the handler went to lunch. Then was released after screaming after 6 more calls.
Look who’s in charge right CF another merit hack - blm on medical time too over /under around 500 some top
Off at about 2000 and growing
Its only the flu anyways. Also, most jobs don't require a negative test to return. Just 10-14 days and no symptoms.
ODPO robbed at gun point, 4950 N Milwaukee(7-eleven).
Most of the infected people have recently returned from out of town trips. They come to work instead of taken any precautions....others know that they have the symptoms but the still come to work.
The fact that no one at the medical section can even answer a phone is pathetic. They do not give one f*ck.
If you are sick, stay home. If you are not, go to work. Stop being tested.
Speaking of the shortage of manpower, why is no one guarding Alderman Lopez office. Robbed for the FOURTH time. To bad he wasn't there to confront the robbers and get what for. Oh well one can only hope for a good out come. LOL. Hope this happens to all the Aldermen and most get Jacked as well. Only then will we see a movement for law and order.
I called to go on the medical.
I finally got ahold of someone in person, and was specifically told “ok well you are on the medical now. Someone will call you tomorrow with further instructions.” It didn’t sound right, so I said “ok, so someone will call me tomorrow for sure, right?” The woman on the phone said “well, I mean you know we are busy down here, but someone will call you tomorrow.”
Well, surprisingly no one called me.
I called a few times to no avail, but I wasn’t concerned.
I just walked in there 2 weeks later and said I needed to go clear.
The last time I was on the medical, they asked me to email records over to them.
I continuously called trying to follow up, with no luck.
Then my “case worker” called me and was being very aggressive towards me on the phone, about how I’m not following orders and I’m subject to take days, and she’s recommending me for punishment.
I told her that I emailed my records as instructed. I could just HEAR her long fingernails clicking the keys over the phone, and then she said “Oh. Yeah I see that right here.” I said “no worries, apology accepted.”
If we can’t take care of our own, we can’t take care of anything.
The Black Friday weekend will be an excellent time for the 'community' to do their Michigan Avenue Christmas shopping...
Of you are looking for competency at the Medical Section, you will be like that old guy with the lantern looking for an honest man.
Bad guys say they got the Rona from being in the back of a police car.
Lawsuit or no lawsuit?
Why bother calling them, wait for them to call you. You can email over any paperwork the nurse needs and you will probably get cleared without a trip to 35th st. Nurses don't work on holidays or weekends.
Here's a noble idea, if you are good to go back to work but no one is answering the phone at medical.....get off your ass and go to 35th st. The building is open and so is medical. Or better yet go to your unit of assignment and sign back in.
Are the civilian employees of the Medical Sect. working from home (remotely)?
That would be one reason no one is answering any phones.
Dont need to test if after 10 to 14 days if showing no symptoms.
Fyi you can test positive for 90 after syptoms.
Remember to document all attempts to reach the office, what they told you, letters/emails/faxes, dates/times, who told you, all of it. Your laywer and Union will need it when they try disciplining you for not showing up, or showing up when you shouldn't, or because your name was pulled from the Rule Violation Hat in somebody's office.
We cant, and never could stop a virus...It was dumb to even try. I have no faith in any elected official, or one appointed through political connections. G-d speed to your health officers, as this virus runs it's course.
If you do go back make sure to go in to the front office, shake the commanders hand, talk with all the boss’’, spread the love.
"and this further exacerbates the most recent outbreak."
exacerbates? Is this the Cook CO. jail thread again? cause a lot of that going on in Cook Co. jail ...
Whats your rush?wait till they call you back. No use running back to work to run n gun
I'm not sure if you know this. COVID is a workers comp case. If you test positive, contact a good lawyer. Even if you think you did not contract it at work. From my understanding COVID is presumed to be a work related issue. The employer needs to prove otherwise. I am not a lawyer just a retired union Firefighter that was injured on the job, and a couple of job related injuries after retirement.
Bring it up to state officials quit crying on the blog only if it bothers everyone so much. Also don’t go back to work it’s your medical tone stay on it until you feel or a Dr says you are healthy and not contagious COMMON SENSE
Do not call the medical section for they do not answer. E-mail medical.section@chicagopolice.org and ask the questions there and make them put their answers in writing. Hint: they won't do it, but your cleared because you attempted to contact and they refused to answer. Enjoy the holiday at home.
Remember way back (years ago) in the academy, you will told you were
“Lower than whale shit”?
Turns out that was true......
Is it only the CPD that’s not bound by doctors AllWaddly and eZeekie’s science and metrics health guidelines? Hushed Browns gives the orders that he receives from angry quack Larri LightFührer about how 14 days is enough for any Covid’s + quarantine. No exceptions. City Hall closed since March and part-time Larri is doing 3 hrs days twice a week dictating and croaking orders from behind a computer monitor. Don’t rush back from the medical.
Getting Med Sect to answer phones (see phone courtesy procedures in your Orders or Sgt exam study guide) is one thing, they could be just as swamped, but if you just show up and there’s nobody there, even if it’s rdo, holiday, etc, they likely too are getting poorly managed as well. Don’t take being scolded or not being officially released, it’s still documentable by calling your Unit (UOA) before leaving home and before leaving MSS-231...if that’s what one wants to do. I wouldn’t trust Hushed Brown (who’s willing to throw anyone under the bus) if there’s a medical roll infraction to save his job.
If the Dept was interested in healthy bodies to backfill those on the Medical they would utilize house mice being carried and compensated with Duty Availability.
Field and Beat patrol need a break, if the Covid’s didn’t find you maybe bunions, migraines and high blood pressure will.
Stay Safe, Stay Fetal or Stay Home.
Who’s in charge of that hell hole.
Was scolded for getting a negative test before returning. I held out and 2 days later diarrhea reappeared & the test came back positive! I would’ve got everyone at roll call and my partner since they don’t bother wearing masks anyway!
Anonymous said...
Here's a noble idea, if you are good to go back to work but no one is answering the phone at medical.....get off your ass and go to 35th st. The building is open and so is medical. Or better yet go to your unit of assignment and sign back in.
11/22/2020 07:23:00 AM
Agreed, that's what I did.
similar experience. Won't answer the phone b e or reply to emails.
Las Vegas police union files complaint over COVID punishments. What do we do ask for more covid during bs training we can do at stations
Been on the medical a week. I was able to leave a message once. Other times the mailbox was full and I was hung up on. No one has gotten back to me.
you wont get a negative test for months because you shed virus that long. so any company requiring that is idi5otic. my wife is a covid unit nurse.
I had FFO training earlier this week. One of the officers I was with tested positive 2 days after. There shouldn't be any training while in this pandemic.
Anonymous said...
Here's a noble idea, if you are good to go back to work but no one is answering the phone at medical.....get off your ass and go to 35th st. The building is open and so is medical. Or better yet go to your unit of assignment and sign back in.
11/22/2020 07:23:00 AM
Here's a noble idea, how about the medical section actually does its job. It seems like the Police (and Fire) are the only city employees who have to follow the rules and keep working during the pandemic. Maybe everyone else should get off their ass and get to work. God, I hope you are not a boss. Idiot.
What is the CFD protocol? I hear they have to get tested if they are exposed on a run.
The fact that no one at the medical section can even answer a phone is pathetic. They do not give one f*ck.
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There are only so many minutes in the day. If they are taking care of other people's phone calls they are not available to answer you and it's not like there's hundreds of people there waiting with nothing else to do but answer your phone calls.
Just do what you're told as best you can keep good records and don't worry about it.
told her that I emailed my records as instructed. I could just HEAR her long fingernails clicking the keys over the phone, and then she said “Oh. Yeah I see that right here.” I said “no worries, apology accepted......................................................................
I have always loved it when I'm threatened, it has always back fired on their asses. Now you suspend me, fine not a problem. I'll get mines. Lets say 3 to 10 days suspenssion, no worries I have enough time due on the books. But that will cost the city three to four months of free pay. Guys and gals, anyone why thinks they run the show is not true, patrol does so grow some guts fight back.stop work your fucking RDO's and let the city clean itself, I guarantee a contract would be granted quick.
Are the civilian employees of the Medical Sect. working from home (remotely)?
That would be one reason no one is answering any phones.
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In case you don't know it electronic phone systems have pretty straightforward ways of forwarding calls to people who are working at home. If they are working at home, that is probably not the reason why the phones are not being answered. It's almost certainly because there are more calls than people to answer them.
This is really sad. The Dummy from Dallas can't reduce crime, in fact murder and shootings have sky rocketed since he has taken over. Everything turns to shit with the Dummy and his staff of Mutts. The Medical Section is just another example of dazed and confused people stumbling along failing the rank and file. The Dallas Dummy is in hiding as he watches his hopes and dreams of successfully administering a large major Police Department crumble before his eyes. You are not in same league as Charlie Beck. Groot picked you because you are a loser. That's the only reason. Keep hiding because it will only get worst.
Find someone with administrative skills to run the damn Medical Section or go back to Dallas.
Anonymous said...
Here's a noble idea, if you are good to go back to work but no one is answering the phone at medical.....get off your ass and go to 35th st. The building is open and so is medical. Or better yet go to your unit of assignment and sign back in.
11/22/2020 07:23:00 AM
No asshole, the department makes us do things by the book when it suits its needs, well we can do the same.
Anonymous said...
Here's a noble idea, if you are good to go back to work but no one is answering the phone at medical.....get off your ass and go to 35th st. The building is open and so is medical. Or better yet go to your unit of assignment and sign back in.
11/22/2020 07:23:00 AM
Noble? Not really. Is that what you are suppose to do? Do you always do whatever you want? There are rules buddy. And the fact that you used the word "noble" let's me know you are not CPD lol
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The last time I was on the medical, they asked me to email records over to them.
I continuously called trying to follow up, with no luck.
Then my “case worker” called me and was being very aggressive towards me on the phone, about how I’m not following orders and I’m subject to take days, and she’s recommending me for punishment.
I told her that I emailed my records as instructed. I could just HEAR her long fingernails clicking the keys over the phone, and then she said “Oh. Yeah I see that right here.” I said “no worries, apology accepted.”
If we can’t take care of our own, we can’t take care of anything.
11/22/2020 04:59:00 AM
The civilians down there are NOT your friends
There are a couple sworn that will definitely help all the time
Anonymous said...
Remember to document all attempts to reach the office, what they told you, letters/emails/faxes, dates/times, who told you, all of it. Your laywer and Union will need it when they try disciplining you for not showing up, or showing up when you shouldn't, or because your name was pulled from the Rule Violation Hat in somebody's office.
11/22/2020 08:04:00 AM
What the hell are you talking about??? If you get sick and test positive for Covid your unit puts you on the medical and you call the medical section and get ONE confirmation number. If you can’t get through try the next day. You’re over thinking this. They know they’re overwhelmed. The whole point is for sick cops testing positive to stay away from others for a few weeks. You’re sick so rest and get better. Relax everyone you’re not in trouble. This is a unique time.
Fuck this department and the idiots at the medical section . No one should go back if they still have symptoms and feel sick ! It's common fucking sense !
Fuck this department and the idiots at the medical section . No one should go back if they still have symptoms and feel sick ! It's common fucking sense !
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Exactly, what is the point of hitting the medical in the first place if the sick aren't allowed to fully heal and recover. Ohh well, fuck it just keep spreading that goddam virus.
The last time I was on the medical, they asked me to email records over to them.
I continuously called trying to follow up, with no luck.
Then my “case worker” called me and was being very aggressive towards me on the phone, about how I’m not following orders and I’m subject to take days, and she’s recommending me for punishment.
I told her that I emailed my records as instructed. I could just HEAR her long fingernails clicking the keys over the phone, and then she said “Oh. Yeah I see that right here.” I said “no worries, apology accepted.”
If we can’t take care of our own, we can’t take care of anything.
11/22/2020 04:59:00 AM
The civilians down there are NOT your friends
There are a couple sworn that will definitely help all the time
11/22/2020 06:56:00 PM
My experience, Amanda (?) Is very nice, not like a guy named Love (so I was told) did similar, tried saying I didn't have my papers and was in violation. I told him look in the system cause I am and it's there and even asked if he needed me to print it out. Spoke to Sgt after that about CB's working medical lol
Total shit show in progress.
I find it funny that the Pediatrics Association of Doctors say they believe that kids SHOULD be in school, following proper protocols but yet Dr. Greasy says no...WTF? Greasy is a pediatrician and NOT a specialist in this Covid shit, so why does a simpleton like her say no to school and the Pediatrics Association say kids go to school? The CTU must be paying her off.
When I think of fake covid, I crack a corona open and forget about it.
if you cop's(not a cop) don't fight back legally...you are really stupid.
I support you 100%...but seriously, you will be in a quality coffin at the end.
enjoy
ill be doing my Medical dance this week, Happy turkey day!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The last time I was on the medical, they asked me to email records over to them.
I continuously called trying to follow up, with no luck.
Then my “case worker” called me and was being very aggressive towards me on the phone, about how I’m not following orders and I’m subject to take days, and she’s recommending me for punishment.
I told her that I emailed my records as instructed. I could just HEAR her long fingernails clicking the keys over the phone, and then she said “Oh. Yeah I see that right here.” I said “no worries, apology accepted.”
This can’t be sworn doing this They were being replaced by the last two superintendents
Who is the CO of the med section now ???
The last time I was on the medical, they asked me to email records over to them.
I continuously called trying to follow up, with no luck.
Then my “case worker” called me and was being very aggressive towards me on the phone, about how I’m not following orders and I’m subject to take days, and she’s recommending me for punishment.
I told her that I emailed my records as instructed. I could just HEAR her long fingernails clicking the keys over the phone, and then she said “Oh. Yeah I see that right here.” I said “no worries, apology accepted.”
This can’t be sworn doing this They were being replaced by the last two superintendents
11/23/2020 12:23:00 PM
No sworn case managers for years so watch your back
Not your peers
I was told to return to work 10 days after testing positive. No follow up test needed. I am back to work 10 days later, no idea if I'm contagious.
I remember when the Medical Section was at the Academy....
In their defense, per the doctor I spoke with, after a 10 day quarantine with no symptoms in the last 3 days you are no longer contagious but could still positive because it can still be in your symptoms. Any half decent copper wants to get back to work anyways.
Who is the CO of the med section now ???
11/23/2020 01:10:00 PM
If Noel Sanchez is still waiting on LAPA to resuscitate his career, then its him. He may have given up though.
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