Tuesday, November 03, 2020

Fetal Being Forced on Cops

At some point, cops aren't going to be responding to calls:

  • A certain Central Control Group Commander let us know in roll call that the city and department will not back us if we are shot/shot at with a paintball gun and use deadly force. Sounds like they are being told that it is not deadly force and therefore we cannot meet it with deadly force. Despite the department releasing a video about the attacks being on the rise and multiple people suffering injuries to their eyes that are so damaging it includes people not just loosing their vision but their physical eye. So sounds like going fetal might not just be in relation to proactive, but how we need to curl up on the street as we get pelted with paintballs.

    He was visibly uncomfortable and put off when he told us this.

And right after Cato told everyone at a presser cops were treating these attacks as if there were real guns being fired. 

So Brownie is gutless, Cato is another liar and this CCG commander is the only one embarrassed by the orders he's being forced to give out?

Stay fetal.

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64 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

My job gets easier and easier. Thank you for the social justice reform.

11/03/2020 12:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The use of deadly force is justified when it is reasonable and necessary to prevent an imminent threat of death or Great Bodily Harm. The loss of an ear or eye is clearly within the definition of great bodily harm. Most paintball guns are capable of producing velocities that make the paintball capable of permanently destroying an eye, causing disfigurement and loss of sight in that eye. The boss is an idiot and a coward and certainly no leader. Look for him to be promoted. Wear ANSI ballistic eye pro and preferably with green laser protection.

11/03/2020 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so my neighbor found out that his friend and co worker for a year... broke a females jaw in 2 spots;

1. Round One-- given 24 months of probation

in court he told the judge he has liquor problems, drug problems, and mental issue-- SHit I would have given him a pat on the back and bed in my house

Then his dude goes to a bar, as he is walking in he kicks a veteran out of wheel chair and was about to break both of his arms until a guy jumps in a gets choked so hard that he shits himself.

2. Round 2-- he goes back to court and gets the same judge and is given court ordered supervision and AA classes, I think mental health all paid for too.

needless to say my neighbor dropped him as a friend after finding out the guy is a loaded gun

11/03/2020 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a bunch of horseshit. The balless commander is just like the rest of the phony exempts. If you perceive that deadly force is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm you are justified. Essentially what these exempts have done is send the message that if you shoot the police with a paint ball gun nothing will happen to you.

11/03/2020 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What else can the police hating politicians say or do to get through to the meathead's still doing anything proactive??? Only a complete moron is still stopping shit-heads and deserves whatever shit comes their way.

11/03/2020 01:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Losing an eye for 100K a year? No thanks.

11/03/2020 01:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will the city be furnishing pain ball guns to CPD so they have a half chance of evening up the score.

What that going to do? Quit? Find work elsewhere? Change occupations? You need to start thinking about it, like right now.

Fuck you lightfoot! You’re even a disgrace to the lesbian population.

11/03/2020 01:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So some shithead points a gun at you and you are supposed to assume its a paintball gun ? I wouldnt know the difference from 10 feet away. Screw that.

11/03/2020 01:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course it’s deadly force. If you get struck in the face and your vision is impaired even temporarily it gives your assailant the opportunity to disarm you and shoot you with your own weapon. And if you are shot in the eye can you make an on the spot determination if you just have paint in your eye or will you use your sight. Any substance in the eye is always a major medical concern as to the damage it can cause. Get to an ER immediately.

As to the post election festivities I would find out what are the rules of engagement. If the city just wants you to stand there and be assaulted like last summer it’s time to walk off the line, why get maimed. In times past the rioters were the ones that got gassed and or injured not the police. It’s disturbing to see what these left wing lunatic Democrats have done to this city as well as the other cities they control. If they don’t want to back you, let the rioters prevail and walk away for safety.

11/03/2020 01:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So we can't protect ourselves from great bodily harm? They do know we can lose an eye from those things right? This department is getting to be beyond embarrassing

11/03/2020 01:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2005 I became a police officer. Currently I'm nothing more than a paper pusher and not by choice. Tomorrow I'll be told to become a punching bag and paintball round absorber. This environment is toxic.

11/03/2020 02:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brownie needs the Sammy Davis Jr. treatment to come
around. Those paintball guns are weapons. His silence is
purchased just like those ISP troopers on the J.B. bar detail.
(What a pig that J.B. is. Money just makes him miserable.)

11/03/2020 02:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've been reading computer programming books. Zoom, bang, bang goes by, I turn the page. Pay me.

11/03/2020 02:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I started to understand the true fuckery that the administrative arm of the department was capable of after comito/thiel in 025. It was then that I stopped kicking the spurs into the side of the horse. The police department doesn't have your back. They should have you sign a waiver when you take your oath, play police at your own risk, we are not liable for damages. Stay safe all, it could be a long week.

11/03/2020 04:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

reminds me about a a guy who swung a bat at the top of stairs he thought being crazy would save him too!

11/03/2020 04:46:00 AM  
Blogger SCC said...

to Dumbass:

The reason it's listed as CCG Commander is that's how the comment was sent to us.

We aren't an inside ass sniffing house moose like you with a roster of Who's Who in our back pocket.

11/03/2020 05:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your gonna need every penny of that ot money and then some for a good lawyer if you shoot one.

11/03/2020 06:11:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

Are they trying to justify Lil Kim's decision to release the Paintball Six?

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

11/03/2020 06:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take away our bullets and issue us paint ball guns.

11/03/2020 06:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck them

A paintball gun can cause great bodily harm.

Do what you need to do to survive and finish your tour whole.

11/03/2020 06:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why are some angry with this commander for telling the truth? He didn’t say it was his policy. He or she gave a warning of what to expect. You shoot one of these assholes or even point a gun in their direction you can expect to be tossed under the bus.

So, what to do? Stay out of harm’s way.

I don’t know who this guy is but he telling you how it is and what to expect. Maybe some of of the young officers need to be told again, so here it is, you are the police and not only do you have no friends your political masters hate you and are thrilled when you are injured or even killed.

11/03/2020 06:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wait till the election riots and the protesters start shooting police with paintball guns and several are hit in the face. Proper response would be a Kent State response.

11/03/2020 06:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not in law enforcement and I had no idea what was really going on behind the scene. Know that there are citizens that support you all and believe in the rule of law. (I also had a great grandfather, grandfather and aunt on the force in OH.) This blog has opened my eyes and I'm stunned. I can't thank you all enough for the sacrifices you make every single day. Things will turn around and some day the masses will be thankful. In the meanwhile, be safe!!

11/03/2020 07:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the paintball shooters were of another demographic would the orders be the same?

11/03/2020 07:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ask for it in writing

11/03/2020 07:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How would they explain natural born reflexes? You don't have to be a cop to realize that.

11/03/2020 07:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It’s not amazing that these spineless bosses tell you that the department will not back you up if you use deadly force on a paintball attack. I mean split second decision , sounds like gun fire you may hear breaking glass and possibly feel like you’ve been shot , but hey , the department will try to fuck you if you use deadly force. However , Cook County Judge David Navarro says , “(The officers) don’t know what these weapons are,” Circuit Judge David R. Navarro told the men during an afternoon bail hearing broadcast on YouTube. “They don’t know if ... what they’re seeing is a real firearm or a paintball gun, and it’d just get worse from there.” That quote was taken from a Chicago Breaking news article with that judge addressing two defendants who were both charged with aggravated battery for striking someone with a paintball gun. Hmmmm... bosses say no , but an officer of the court says yes. I’m so confused.

11/03/2020 07:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just read an article where they are freezing the paintballs in Portland and expect the same there. When that paintball is frozen it doesn't splat. It thumps.

11/03/2020 07:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you know it to be a paintball gun and shoot the offender In this county you will be in jail for the rest of your life.

11/03/2020 07:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone think for a second that if you called out that they were shooting paintballs at you and you then in response shoot them that Cato will not be the first to put handcuffs on you himself? I think we need some clarification from Brown on if we get shot at by paintballs that we can return fire. That is what was said at the press conference “treating them like real guns” but I don’t think COPA would agree.

11/03/2020 07:42:00 AM  
Blogger Tombstone courage said...

This supervisor was just following orders. They call it "The Nuremberg Excuse." He is a good nazi. He deserves no respect.He will watch you lose an eye and cash his paycheck ten minutes later.

11/03/2020 07:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everyone please be careful. Remember Chinatown: Do as little as possible.

The limousine liberals have helped make the bed that's now Chicago -- let them put the fires out and stop the looters.

11/03/2020 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Deadly weapon cannot quickly figure it out its a gun fuck you your dead I choose judge by 12 rather than carried by 6, game time over want To have my vision I cherish it as others do you wanna play games you can take a dirt nap I would have no regrets so many people in our concealed carry hopefully God willing one of those great people put a couple slugs right in your head and your friends had it with your mommy come visit you at the morgue where you belong we did society a solid!

11/03/2020 08:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just A reminder that when the police stop working they stop producing cases the courts then slow down and all that work in the courts will be unemployed

11/03/2020 08:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A Paintball Round to the Eye/ Face is NO different than a Broken Bottle/Knife/Lawn Rake/ Hammer etc Attack— and NECESSITIES the very same immediate and decisive and aggressive response! A damaged eye or, worse, permanent loss or impairment of vision is the very definition of Greivous Injury.

11/03/2020 08:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fetal doesn't work, what happened when violence comes to you???

11/03/2020 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Feds have successfully prosecuted aiming Laser at Aircraft. IF Laser is dangerous to eyesight of Pilot in cockpit ( and behind thick laminated cockpit glass) at 5000 Feet AGL, imagine how dangerous it must be to CPD at a range of Fifty(50) Feet!

11/03/2020 09:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the result of 89 years of Democrat control. VOTE REPUBLICAN, what do you have to lose?

If you are the Real Police but aren't allowed to do your job then you better vote. Your life really is on the line!

11/03/2020 09:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If some asshole shoots at you with a paintball GUN, shoot back with whatever is within arms reach. Fuck these idiots.

11/03/2020 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can’t make that any clearer and it’s coming from the Merit Command. This one wants proactivity and numbers while the other one wants you to stand down and be the punching bag or target. Knuckleheads are not even on the same page or subscribe to different rules books they’ve hastily devised, but mostly from and because of an erratic, ill behaved, altered state imbecile Larri LightLoafers they’re trying to appease. No Confidence for both Larri and Hushed Brown.

These self serving Merit idiots are not willing to stand up for Law and Order or that twit dwarf dictator. Not a tough cookie amongst them. It’s fine with me that street police remain non engaged with the feral, but when the time comes to defend against these violent thugs we should not be subject to any beat down from the assailants or the Elected and Merit Picks.

KmmFxxxUp 2020 has made it her mission to independently investigate and prosecute police allegations even those beyond internal exonerations, including those from decades ago.

If law enforcement cannot feel safe from violent attacks in any form, it goes triple for ordinary citizens that go about all over the city.
This is why Chicago needs Pat O’Brien for CookCo States Atty.

I hope everyone had the opportunity and tenacity to stand in line vote already, if not - do it today.
Follow the science - Stay Fetal and keep your distance from ghetto affairs.

11/03/2020 09:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It sure looked-ed to ME that it was a rifle. I will take my chances. Thanks, Boss.

11/03/2020 09:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Give the Department what they deserve. We don't buy your Socialist fuckery. You give us no quarter and we take no quarter from you. If its Brown - Flush it.

11/03/2020 10:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can you blame this boss? He's taking orders from above him and if they tell you they aren't backing PO's then he is doing you the favor of passing along the message. Don't hate the messenger, you dumbasses, hate the message.

11/03/2020 11:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If we are told to stand down and do nothing when you are getting pelted with shit, it’s time to get together and walk off, that’s bull shit

11/03/2020 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What they need is to get their heads cracked open, maybe they’ll think twice next time

11/03/2020 11:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bullshit.

Grahm vs Connor


Rehnquist noted that § 1983 is not itself a source of substantive rights, but rather a means for vindicating federal rights conferred elsewhere. Rather, the Fourth Amendment stands as one of the two primary sources of protection against physically abusive government conduct, along with the Eighth Amendment. Therefore, the validity of Graham’s claim must be judged by reference to the specific rights conferred by the Fourth Amendment, not by a generalized “excessive force” standard.




Justice Rehnquist rejected Connor’s argument that “malicious and sadistic” is merely another way of describing conduct that is objectively unreasonable, noting that the subjective motivations of the officers are relevant under the Eighth Amendment, not the Fourth. Rather, he explained that the “objective reasonableness” of a use of force should be judged by the perspective of an officer on the scene, and should take into account factors such as the severity of the crime, the threat posed by the suspect, and any attempts by the suspect to resist or evade arrest.


https://www.oyez.org/cases/1988/87-6571



11/03/2020 12:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this verified? Really sad if it’s true.

11/03/2020 12:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stay safe officers. When this is all said and done, we need to have a fundraiser to get protective eye gear. This is unacceptable.

11/03/2020 01:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Non-cop (retired RN) here. Officers! If your command staff are idiots, PLEASE watch out for yourselves! Wear a pair of Military spec (MIL-PRF-31013) safety glasses. I highly recommend Safety Glasses USA. They are veteran owned:

https://www.safetyglassesusa.com/

Go to the search window, and type in "Ballistic". If you wear prescription glasses, type in "Ballistic over prescription", for safety glasses that fit over your regular glasses. They also make prescription safety glasses, with the MIL-SPEC standard.

I have no stake in this company. I use their glasses at the range, and have been very satisfied.

STAY SAFE OUT THERE!

11/03/2020 01:55:00 PM  
Blogger rosco said...

Don't forget, a few years back they were shooting frozen paintballs. Those hit rather hard..

11/03/2020 03:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stand back and stand down as much as possible. CFD too. If BLM/Antifa start fires, they will wait for a response and shoot at first responders. If they set fire to stores in their own neighborhoods, they create their own shopping desserts. If a neighborhood mall is on fire, Lightfoot will send in her clean-up the trash units on a special mission. They will arrive with police SUVs loaded with cases of marshmallows, Hershey bars, and graham crackers to give out. They will then be ordered to make smores and sing Kumbaya with the rioters.

Meanwhile if Bobby Rush calls and says the rioters set his office on fire, tell him he can piss on it to put it out himself! It is not worth risking any CPD or CFD being injured for his office.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj4OTG-SY7U

11/03/2020 03:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since we are always in the shit hole on issues on this, can we at least purchase a one of these non lethal weapons and return fire to the crotch area? Somehow I think this will lesson a shot to the bean bags will offer sharp decline once that hurting becomes reality.

11/03/2020 03:29:00 PM  
Blogger SCC said...

to Dipshit:

House Moose is like a house mouse but with a wider ass

FOAD Trollop

11/03/2020 04:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to Dipshit:

House Moose is like a house mouse but with a wider ass

FOAD Trollop


House moose can be a male house mouse. With a wider ass. :)

11/03/2020 04:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a rookie in 1984 I remember riding with an oldtimer who could've been my dad.
He drove and when I asked why he never rushed he smiled.
When he had to he could boogie though...but 95% of the time nope.
It took me a while to understand that.
Hope he's still collecting his checks.

11/03/2020 04:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Deadly weapon cannot quickly figure it out its a gun fuck you your dead I choose judge by 12 rather than carried by 6.....

//////What this PO ^ said!

MAGA!

-Last CPD revolver class

11/03/2020 05:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"Fetal doesn't work, what happened when violence comes to you???"

11/03/2020 09:10:00 AM


This was our dearly held credo
when we were working the high-rises:

"If VIOLENCE is the ONLY language
YOU understand, WE speak it
FLUENTLY."

Heh...

Too young (still) to die...
Too old, sick, tired and injured
to knuckle-down with Yung-Buk.

Have .45 ACP with 200gr. +P JHP
(and one magazine of 255gr. +P SWC
for vehicle borne bandits) will travel.

11/03/2020 05:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck these merit bosses , they don’t understand deadly force order , ya know they scored a 55% .
Hey if you are in fear of death 💀 or great bodily harm for yourself or another , take the dirtbag out .
Free exam with the medical examiners office .

11/03/2020 09:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well I’d say it’s time to hang it up. People want the same as what they’ve had so fuck it. Let the liberals and their thugs kill each other.

11/03/2020 10:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What do you expect when the department has decided that being struck by a baseball bat or a moving vehicle does not warrant a deadly force response ? Pretty soon knives will not be considered deadly force. You must remember that any routine call can go sideways and you will be the next YouTube sensation and warming a chair at 311 while the police board and community decide your fate. Just look at what happened in Atlanta and you can see the handwritting on the wall.

11/04/2020 02:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

House moose can be a male house mouse. With a wider ass. :)

11/03/2020 04:33:00 PM

Yes, but not likely

11/04/2020 02:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Recall the kid shot dead by the police in Cleveland? He was 12 years old and was pointing a realistic looking pellet gun at the police. Yes, 12 years olf, but 6 ft 200 lbs. The cop was persuecuted and fired. The cop had only seconds to determine what the situation was.

11/04/2020 02:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Knives, baseball bats, and paintball guns that can take your eye out, what's next

11/04/2020 04:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First line of paintball park release-I UNDERSTAND PAINTBALL CAN CAUSE INJURY AND DEATH.

11/08/2020 01:28:00 PM  

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