Number Fudging Again?
Some things never change:
- Detectives are closing old homicides per uncooperative witnesses to pump the closure percentages
You can't truly make a homicide "X-Cleared/Closed" solely for non-cooperation.
At least you didn't used to be able to when you had actual bosses and investigative reporters around to lend the illusion of honesty to the process.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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Does anyone else think Chewzeuski, Shnoor and the other test cheaters are much worse than the undeserving ass kissing merits?
The blatant cheating is rather disgusting.
From the Sun Times - Stephanie Zimmermann:
"How catalytic converter thieves woke up a reporter to a big story"
"That was my first experience with catalytic converter thefts, a nuisance crime that’s affected thousands of Chicago drivers, collectively costing them millions of dollars."
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. . . A nuisance crime ??
In EVERY one of those "nuisance crimes", those catalytic converter offenders work in teams of 3 to 4.
EVERY ONE of them is armed with either a pistol and on many occasions now at least one of the offenders is carrying an AR carbine rifle.
The pistols they carry many times are Glock handguns which are fitted with a "Glock switch" which makes them fully automatic.
The extended magazines that they have can fire 34 rounds in under 5 seconds.
If they have a drum attached to the weapon it can fire 50 rounds in under 10 seconds.
What a "nuisance".
KEEP VOTING DEMOCRAT.
The Foster Method of Investigation. This is taught to all the new homicide detectives that are groomed by supervisors. No critical thinking, no integrity, just do what you're told so you can keep your spot on days "working" homicides even though you only have 12 years on the job.
Maybe you can hire Detective Lily from the Philadelphia Cold Case Squad?
That may be select cases that were CI'd by CCSAO but I call b.s. on widespread closures by detectives. No one is approving reports solely on that. But, CCSAO can reject solely for lack of witness cooperation.
*12 people shot on a corner, no one cares*-No one wants to talk, no one stays around/reports anything. Everyone moves on with their life like nothing happened.
*Shitbag shoots at a cop, shitbag dies*-The blind hoodtrash tells he saw the shitbag with no gun coming from church at midnight services scrubbing the poors feet and the shitbag was an angel. Hoodtrash Sharpton, Race baiting Jesse Jackson Sr cripple said ' tHiS wAs rAcIsM by wHiTe sUpReMaCy!" Enter in all the news channels and the block turns out to fight the police.
Yeah no. Fuck these shitbags.
Fuck these animals, let them die in their own warzone they've created, 7th and the 22nd, anything more you are an idiot.
Looking on the bright side of things, who gives a fuck?
You can if you have enough to charge it otherwise, but the state rejects it because they’re petty and refuse to send anything to a jury.
Not only homicides. They want property detectives to Ex. Clear Close multiple burglaries and robberies at the same time with very weak and dubious evidence linking a suspect to all of the cases. It's all about fraudulently raising the clearance rates and since the suspect isn't being charged with the crimes they think there is no harm done. This is what happens when you have weak, corrupt, unethical and incompetent leadership. They have no clue, or they simply don't care of the far reaching consequences of this. Common sense, or if you have none, a simple google search shows what is universally known and obvious to most professionals: The practise raises several serious ethical, legal, and professional concerns... Undermines Public Trust and Integrity of the Law Enforcement System... Even if the suspect is not charged with these additional crimes, the association can have lasting negative impacts on their life, including reputational harm and possible future legal implications.... practice can also be unfair to the victims of the crimes and their families... Demoralizing Effect on Ethical Officers: For detectives committed to doing their job ethically and professionally, being pressured into engaging in such practices can be demoralizing....Creates a Culture of Complacency and Inefficiency.... Legal and Ethical Violations etc. etc. I for one, have never participated in this practice in the past and will not in the future and there aint shit anybody can do about it. Any boss requiring this outright or implying it indirectly is a hack and an embarrassment.
Victims and families suffer and criminals aren’t being punished. The Chicago way underneath the Democrat Party.
This Hein guy, who’s his juice?
Once those guns are registered, the state will be safe...Gov. Lardass
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Just like the song....
Listen to what the man says....
Really SCC....
I guess you would rather have the city look bad, wasting money, badgering innocent persons on unsolvable cases.
Vote Democrat, means moving forward.
We just use that common core math and move the questions around...
I really should be in Washington DC with my brain.
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The Chicago way...........
Another ridiculous idiomatic idea. Plus we also have the 20 more than 20same robbery pattern. which it is believe they are the same crew so instead of doing the job, the bosses will just have them close everything up like they did something there are no witnesses. People are not gonna come forward unless you have a regular police that know what they’re doing. I don’t know what we’re hiring anymore, the same element you’re constantly here we cannot do our jobs. No, you’re lazy. Why do the work if you can get the pay for doing nothing so many coppers now or nothing but secretaries with guns detective division what is that that used to be a place you would go were you were proud to do it some type of investigative work now what are they doing? Except for grabbing how much overtime again ?
If we can X Clear for uncooperative witnesses I say let’s do it for No Witnesses, or iffy Witnesses
Imagine the impressive clearance rate
C'mon youz guyz, why complicate things? Look, he was shot 16 times in the head, whilst attempting to eat a pizza puff. It's a NATURAL death as once he was shot so many times in the head....NATURALLY he died. Insert graduation gown picture here. NEXT...
I have been retired a long time. As I recall a cleared closed case Exceptionally only happened when the suspected offender was dead. Now, I hear if the ASA rejects charges they are closing cases.
Where's Pamela Zekman?
If you need to serve some cold revenge, this is the time. The homicide will be cleared quick.
Im sure the majority, if nt all of those case are gang related, so its shithead offender vs shithead victim so Im good with clearing it. This should be SOP for all crimes with these shitheads, non cooperation means fuck you, admid closed.
Imagen those horrible crimes that occuered in Chiraq and taken elsewhere.
Fudging the numbers. That's what they do best.
No keeses for them
Use more DNA. Require everybody to submit a DNA sample for a National Database.
Looks like Watson in Area 1 is killing Area 5 with Murder clearances.
If the witness gave a statement before or made a positive ID previously and doesn’t want to cooperate now, The case is Exc Cleared. This is nothing new. If a witness never gave a statement and doesn’t cooperate now, the case can’t be closed.
As long as no one is going to jail you the public doesn’t care.
Does anyone else think Chewzeuski, Shnoor and the other test cheaters are much worse than the undeserving ass kissing merits?
The blatant cheating is rather disgusting.
12/29/2023 12:07:00 AM
The amount of cheating that went on with this Lts test is truly unprecedented. The last Eugene Williams group had like 20 people. On this test a majority of the SCORE promotions were merit Sgts. Now, I'm not saying it's impossible for a merit Sgts to make Lt by score but for a majority of the score promotions to be former merit is more than suspect. That Lts test was incredibly difficult with many of the questions with no identifiable general order or special order to source the answers from. The one thing I've noticed from the new suspect Lts is that always are sure to excessively thank you and ask about your mental health. Im pretty sure those were the "notify the watch commander" phrases of this test.
The Foster Method of Investigation. This is taught to all the new homicide detectives that are groomed by supervisors. No critical thinking, no integrity, just do what you're told so you can keep your spot on days "working" homicides even though you only have 12 years on the job.
Sounds like somebody didn’t get asked to be in homicide. Keep working in GA you belong there
Crazy how this works was talking to a detective who said many things about working in the d-unit not going to air it here, so much going on there will bosses that are clueless and no accountability. The kicker someone close to him in his family was a victim of a major incident,and now he is bitching about lazy coppers and do nothing detectives, funny how that works!
Bottom line you keep doing nothing beat cop or any unit and the "chickens come home to roost!"
Area 5 John Foster’s MO. It’s close to criminal the way he is instructing us to clear these cases. His ego will get him and us in trouble. He needs to go, now. He is a horrible boss to work for and doesn’t deserve his rank.
Retired here...
This is an old tactic. Back in the day, in "Old A/5" they always had the highest clearance rates of robbery in the city because of multiple clearances. If a suspect was arrested, any case report with similar demographics was cleared using him as a suspect. Even if they knew better...only Lt's approved XCC'd cases with multiple clearances, not Sgt's...
Everyone knew this was BS, but this action made Lt's into commanders, and made Commanders Deputy chiefs. The detective who cleared the most cases got a day or two off on the books. It was a promotional free for all based on false numbers. This is when crime was always down, even though it was up.
Cases were never "exceptionally cleared-closed" based on witness cooperation (or lack of) though...that's a new twist. Witnesses always chose to co-operate if you get my drift. I have seen them spend a night in an interview room until their cooperation was secured.
The clearance rates are so low today that no amount of fudging will bring them up that high. IMHO making a boss look good just isn't worth it, since everything is on record, and any forensic audit could expose this fraud.
When Chicago politicians talk about crime being down, this exactly where they get those numbers from. Some gold braid pushing certain underlings to XCC cases that can't be solved. And rewarding them for their efforts "down the road"...
In A/5 just before it closed, (after the Dean Andrews/Koschman debacle) it was said that "every robbery since Bonnie & Clyde" could be solved in A/5...I have always believed that one of the reasons they closed that particular area is because the heat was on, and the truth was in danger of being exposed. Dean Andrews was promoted under these inflated clearance rates and so were a few other infamous Area 5 Lt's, and Commanders.
Looks like the disease has spread. No one seemed to care about robbery clearance rates back then. But now they are fudging the violent crime rates? ...Ask yourself, is crime really down???
Bring back the "Crystal Ball" Unit...crime was never so low since! Maybe they could start a "remote Viewing team..." or a "Tarot" division...
Anonymous said...
This Hein guy, who’s his juice?
12/29/2023 02:24:00 AM
Heins juice is Stevens. Stevens most recent juice was Riccio. Both of them went from Sgt or Lt to DC off Riccio. Let’s see where they end up.
Falsification, subterfuge and deception are statistical hallmarks of the Department. In Chicago the police statistics are manipulated as needed to fit the narrative. However, to be fair to the Department and Larry, his position is there are only two things in Chicago that are legitimate: pro wrestling and police statistics.
Hey Larry, have another great Sesame Street Day.
I don’t think our idiot leaders in Area One Watson and the 3 blind mice Lts know the criteria to close a case. None of them were detectives.
From the Sun Times - Stephanie Zimmermann:
"How catalytic converter thieves woke up a reporter to a big story"
"That was my first experience with catalytic converter thefts, a nuisance crime that’s affected thousands of Chicago drivers, collectively costing them millions of dollars."
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These Liberal retards like Zimmerman have NO CLUE the danger they and they're family are in while in the city.
A FUCKIN' "NUISANCE CRIME" ???
The Story:
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/12/28/23961364/catalytic-converter-thefts-previous-metals-rhodium-palladium-platinum-scrap-toyota-prius-insurance
For my fellow professionals in US, Herewith some Crime-reducing Statistical Tricks commonly used in Britain and throughout the Commonwealth:
1. For statistical purposes, original Charges are NEVER upgraded. Example: A person is charged with Assault. If the victim dies, the person is re-charged with Murder/ Manslaughter, but the original Charge of Assault remains in the Statistics.
2. ONLY the higher Charge is used for statistics. Example: A woman is raped in the course of a home burglary.Even though two seperate and distinct crimes occurred, ONLY one crime—the rape— is used for statistics
3. ONLY a single address is used, even for crimes occurring at seperate addresses in the same neighborhood or building. Example: two apartments— in the same building— are broken into. Because both apartments have the SAME street address ( same building) only one burglary is reported.
4. Open Cases are routinely cleared if it is “ reasonably believed” that they cannot be solved with use of “ appropriate and available resources”.
5. If the likely Suspect is charged with anything— even something totally unrelated to the Case at hand— the Case is Closed. Example: A suspected Burglar is arrested and charged with shoplifting, the Case may be closed.
Area 1 I has a ridiculous clearance rate for murders this year with few arrests. Commander Watson is trying to fudge the numbers to be promoted to chief of Detectives. Lord help us when that happens.
There’s plenty of ass kissing merit detectives with their lips on the commmanders ass that will do that. Merit can make magic happen
Area 5 John Foster’s MO. It’s close to criminal the way he is instructing us to clear these cases. His ego will get him and us in trouble. He needs to go, now. He is a horrible boss to work for and doesn’t deserve his rank.
Yes, that’s his MO. Clear your cases. Nothing else. Always has been. See you back at the area. Party time is over for those 9165 in the districts. It’s about time too.
Anonymous said...
Area 5 John Foster’s MO. It’s close to criminal the way he is instructing us to clear these cases. His ego will get him and us in trouble. He needs to go, now. He is a horrible boss to work for and doesn’t deserve his rank.
12/29/2023 10:11:00 AM
Well snowflake, here's an eye opener. Thats your name and star number on those XCC supplemental reports naming suspects to unrelated crimes. It's called falsifying an official police report, and official misconduct. Your supervisor merely approves those reports. You are the one doing the dirty work.
"I was only following orders" defense didn't work at the WW2 tribunals for war crimes and it won't work here either. You are going to have to exercise your INTEGRITY and stand up to bosses like you described when you are expected to do things that you know are wrong.
It's time to put on your "Big Boy" pants...
They need to justify that new D2B pay. But for real most victims want nothing to do with the case after the original case.
Yes, that’s his MO. Clear your cases. Nothing else. Always has been. See you back at the area. Party time is over for those 9165 in the districts. It’s about time too.
Get off the Blog Foster, no one likes you. Go away.
Crooked. They can’t solve crimes legitimately so they take the cowards (Chicago Democrat) way out. Cheat.
If the "media" would really look, match murders with convictions in Cook County. That number if ever made public would cause a mass exit.
SCC, this time you are incorrect. If the witness provided an I.D. via a line-up and then refused to cooperate further in the prosecution and the State refused to prosecute without a C/ I and there were no further leads you could XCC the job due to “bar to prosecution”. I’ve been there, done that.
Mayor BJ looks like a sharp pencil that's not so sharp. 😃
Area 5 John Foster’s MO. It’s close to criminal the way he is instructing us to clear these cases. His ego will get him and us in trouble. He needs to go, now. He is a horrible boss to work for and doesn’t deserve his rank.
Dude, if you don't want to be a detective, go back to patrol. Clear your cases, it's your job geez...
But when you have Ursitti as the Chief of Detective you can get away with pretty much anything. She hasn’t a clue. She only knows what the merit Commanders tells her, and it all sounds good to her. “She be Justa smiling.”
You can't truly make a homicide "X-Cleared/Closed" solely for non-cooperation.
Please don’t burst their bubble.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The Foster Method of Investigation. This is taught to all the new homicide detectives that are groomed by supervisors. No critical thinking, no integrity, just do what you're told so you can keep your spot on days "working" homicides even though you only have 12 years on the job.
12/29/2023 12:27:00 AM
You really can’t close an homicide Exceptionally Cleared Closed if the witnesses are still alive. You certainly can’t close it because of a refusal to cooperate.
Incompetent,Democrat Southside Irish replaced with incompetent Marxist Southside Black's. How did you think it would end. None of you would have been hired if the Northside, Conservative Germans ran things. Just a matter of time...
The absolutely number one proven way to increase clearance rates on any crime is to lower the number of cases a detective gets assigned. The only way to do that is to increase the number of detectives. And since, let's say for example, Area 5 has one detective for every 3 homicides per year the homicide clearance rate is almost 85%. But a property detective who may get assigned over 100 robberies per year will have a much lower clearance rate. Average homicide clearance rates in the nation is about 53%. Average robbery clearance rates for robberies is 23% and burglaries 12%. The burnout rate for detectives, especially ones that get way too many cases is very high. How many cases do you expect a detective to properly and efficiently investigate every working day? What's the number? Tons of studies done... look it up. Comments like "Dude, if you don't want to be a detective, go back to patrol. Clear your cases, it's your job geez..." proves the rampant ignorance permeating this department. You obviously have no clue about actual legitimate detective work or why things are in the state they are in. And your response to my comment will predictably be just as sophomoric as your quoted one.
Who really gives a fuck? You don’t get sued for not bringing a case, you get sued for an arrest and prosecution. If it’s not an air-tight case, I would rather clear/close it too. Does anyone like this? No. Why gnaw at each other for the way things just are now? I actually don’t even blame the bosses for this - give the community and the libs what they want. I would explain to next of kin that until their community steps up, we can’t prosecute cases. Be mad at the police all you want - state/juries want independent witnesses or no charges, so be it
They need to make a horrible boss wall-of-fame. Bosses are pressuring Homicide dicks to Exceptionally Clear Closed their cases. Someone is going to eat that one day, and of course Larry has never been a detective, so he has no idea that Area Commanders are pulling the wool over his eyes trying hard to get promoted. Homicide cases remains open and stays with the detective until they are solved. They have no statute of limitations. The only way you can close the case is if it was a murder suicide and the victim and offender are dead. But as long as the offender is at large, nope. I retired with 3 in my inbox. One, I was close to making an arrest on. I’m almost certain someone else has the case now.
Anonymous said...
Area 5 John Foster’s MO. It’s close to criminal the way he is instructing us to clear these cases. His ego will get him and us in trouble. He needs to go, now. He is a horrible boss to work for and doesn’t deserve his rank.
Dude, if you don't want to be a detective, go back to patrol. Clear your cases, it's your job geez...
The detective right! John Foster is a self serving prick.
Anonymous said...
SCC, this time you are incorrect. If the witness provided an I.D. via a line-up and then refused to cooperate further in the prosecution and the State refused to prosecute without a C/ I and there were no further leads you could XCC the job due to “bar to prosecution”. I’ve been there, done that.
No you’re incorrect. There is no statute of limitations on a murder. The witness can change their mind at anytime and decide to cooperate. A new witness can emerge at anytime. A new witness can be identified at anytime. A new lead can develop at anytime. An offender can come forward and confess at anytime. DNA can identify an offender at anytime. Homicide case stays with the detective until they are solved. You’re talking about the new scam they’re using to increase the clearance rate. The scam involves detectives discouraging witnesses, not searching for witnesses and not returning phone calls.
That’s the merit Democrat way of increasing the clearance rate. No convictions just close. Hey Jack Ass show up that many moons ago.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
SCC, this time you are incorrect. If the witness provided an I.D. via a line-up and then refused to cooperate further in the prosecution and the State refused to prosecute without a C/ I and there were no further leads you could XCC the job due to “bar to prosecution”. I’ve been there, done that.
What happens when a new witness get the guts to come forward? Do you unclosed the closed case? That’s why it’s best to leave it open.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Yes, that’s his MO. Clear your cases. Nothing else. Always has been. See you back at the area. Party time is over for those 9165 in the districts. It’s about time too.
Get off the Blog Foster, no one likes you. Go away.
And this is exactly what we’re talking about. Clear your cases nothing else. There are other things like the integrity of the investigation, future litigation, overturned prosecution, etc.
Don’t cry about it! Leave the team. It’s called self-preservation. You know it’s wrong, but you stay.
I like it when Homicide Dicks find a deceased subject and name him the offender to unrelated murder just so that can Exceptionally Cleared Closed the case. A dead man can’t talk and can’t be prosecuted. They’ll never have to look for the real perp. Case closed.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Area 1 I has a ridiculous clearance rate for murders this year with few arrests. Commander Watson is trying to fudge the numbers to be promoted to chief of Detectives. Lord help us when that happens.
Well it will be easy to take Chief Ursitti’s spot. She’s a nice lady, but she’s clueless. With all of this crime going on, she has yet to have a press conference. She doesn’t know what to say. She has yet to address the public or to give updates publicly. Ursitti is out of touch. Watson has the knife right in her back.
For my fellow professionals in US, Herewith some Crime-reducing Statistical Tricks commonly used in Britain and throughout the Commonwealth:
1. For statistical purposes, original Charges are NEVER upgraded. Example: A person is charged with Assault. If the victim dies, the person is re-charged with Murder/ Manslaughter, but the original Charge of Assault remains in the Statistics.
2. ONLY the higher Charge is used for statistics. Example: A woman is raped in the course of a home burglary.Even though two seperate and distinct crimes occurred, ONLY one crime—the rape— is used for statistics
3. ONLY a single address is used, even for crimes occurring at seperate addresses in the same neighborhood or building. Example: two apartments— in the same building— are broken into. Because both apartments have the SAME street address ( same building) only one burglary is reported.
4. Open Cases are routinely cleared if it is “ reasonably believed” that they cannot be solved with use of “ appropriate and available resources”.
5. If the likely Suspect is charged with anything— even something totally unrelated to the Case at hand— the Case is Closed. Example: A suspected Burglar is arrested and charged with shoplifting, the Case may be closed.
We’re talking strictly about homicides. Try again.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I don’t think our idiot leaders in Area One Watson and the 3 blind mice Lts know the criteria to close a case. None of them were detectives.
And Lt. Kearns is a coffee drinking shaky nut. He harps on the dumbest shit.
Heins juice is Stevens. Stevens most recent juice was Riccio. Both of them went from Sgt or Lt to DC off Riccio. Let’s see where they end up.
David Brown was so clueless he allowed new sergeants to be promoted to commander and Deputy Chief within 6 months.
Anonymous said...
Area 1 I has a ridiculous clearance rate for murders this year with few arrests. Commander Watson is trying to fudge the numbers to be promoted to chief of Detectives. Lord help us when that happens.
Oh that explains the doughnuts each morning. Keep them coming.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I have been retired a long time. As I recall a cleared closed case Exceptionally only happened when the suspected offender was dead. Now, I hear if the ASA rejects charges they are closing cases.
This is the correct way, but there’s a race for promotion. Area Commanders/Lt’s are closing them because they have young groomed homicide dicks willing to do it just to be on the team and to stay on the 2nd watch. Area 5 dicks are waking up to the nonsense.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If we can X Clear for uncooperative witnesses I say let’s do it for No Witnesses, or iffy Witnesses
Imagine the impressive clearance rate
My inbox would be clear (laughs)
Foster is one if the best. He hates whiners and cry babies. Do your work, clear your cases and you'll be fine.
If you are going to X Clear a case you had better be prepared to have it on an overhead projector where Pam Zekman has her laser pointer out and going over every sentence. Sorry, not me, not in this computer age. Mine are beyond legit. Yes, Im anonymous so no bragging here, just not worth scamming in this day and age.
Anonymous said...
I like it when Homicide Dicks find a deceased subject and name him the offender to unrelated murder just so that can Exceptionally Cleared Closed the case. A dead man can’t talk and can’t be prosecuted. They’ll never have to look for the real perp. Case closed.
12/30/2023 04:40:00 AM
You're obviously not a detective. Its evident you're incorrectly repeating something you've heard.If that was the case all cases would be closed and the clearance rate would be 100%, not in the lower teens.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I have been retired a long time. As I recall a cleared closed case Exceptionally only happened when the suspected offender was dead. Now, I hear if the ASA rejects charges they are closing cases.
This is the correct way, but there’s a race for promotion. Area Commanders/Lt’s are closing them because they have young groomed homicide dicks willing to do it just to be on the team and to stay on the 2nd watch. Area 5 dicks are waking up to the nonsense.
12/30/2023 05:25:00 AM
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No we do them for multiples where a crew does 8 robberies in a row in a night. Charge a couple but the 2 or 3 where the victim cannot Id, the video is clear but not clear enough to make a great ID, and the shithead is not talking - yes we would X clear those 2 or 3 robberies. The offender need not be dead. But some guys X clear because "offender fits the general description" of the other case. Ya, right, a young black male in a black hoodie, Nonsense. Be careful with that. Shame on the Sgt. for approving it. The thing is you can re-open an X clear later, say if the crime lab comes back 2 years later with a DNA hit, then re arrest dude and charge him.
“Forget it, Jake. It’s Chi-town.”
Anonymous said...
SCC, this time you are incorrect. If the witness provided an I.D. via a line-up and then refused to cooperate further in the prosecution and the State refused to prosecute without a C/ I and there were no further leads you could XCC the job due to “bar to prosecution”. I’ve been there, done that.
No you’re incorrect. There is no statute of limitations on a murder. The witness can change their mind at anytime and decide to cooperate. A new witness can emerge at anytime. A new witness can be identified at anytime. A new lead can develop at anytime. An offender can come forward and confess at anytime. DNA can identify an offender at anytime. Homicide case stays with the detective until they are solved. You’re talking about the new scam they’re using to increase the clearance rate. The scam involves detectives discouraging witnesses, not searching for witnesses and not returning phone calls.
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And you are incorrect. Even if you CCX (Clear Close Exceptionally) a homicide, it can be reopened if additional evidence/ witnesses are found. This happens about .00001%. Therefore the case is closed (CCX) as per the first detective’s comments.
What is the current clearance rate?? Heyjackass no longer posts that data.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I like it when Homicide Dicks find a deceased subject and name him the offender to unrelated murder just so that can Exceptionally Cleared Closed the case. A dead man can’t talk and can’t be prosecuted. They’ll never have to look for the real perp. Case closed.
12/30/2023 04:40:00 AM
Have u never worked in the hood?? A lot of the time that is indeed the case. He’s a homicide victim because he probably shot and or killed someone. Todays victim tomorrows offender just as todays offender is tomorrows victim
In 013 in the late 80's, fans going to the hawks game at the old Chgo Stadium used to park by the condominiums (Henry Horner Projects) and had their vehicles broken into. The powers that be used the hotel rule, 1 RD# to cover all vehicles as long as they were parked in vicinty of the Stadium. 3-4 blocks away from each break in, no matter. Killing crime at its peak.
AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Yes, that’s his MO. Clear your cases. Nothing else. Always has been. See you back at the area. Party time is over for those 9165 in the districts. It’s about time too.
Get off the Blog Foster, no one likes you. Go away.
And this is exactly what we’re talking about. Clear your cases nothing else. There are other things like the integrity of the investigation, future litigation, overturned prosecution, etc.
Can somebody help me? What is “integrity of the investigation”? Who has ever been sued for exceptionally closing a case or better yet sued for a robbery? Had a robbery overturned? Bro, sounds like you and most of these comments seems to be one person are making excuses or justifying why you won’t do you job. Dicks are supposed to move cases along and suspending them should be the last resort.
Pack and fudge them numbers deep. Crime is down.
Don’t worry these new Homicide teams they are making with 4 years on the job detectives will suspend all the cases. Work Monday through Thursday and have weekends off..
Can somebody help me? What is “integrity of the investigation”? Who has ever been sued for exceptionally closing a case or better yet sued for a robbery? Had a robbery overturned? Bro, sounds like you and most of these comments seems to be one person are making excuses or justifying why you won’t do you job. Dicks are supposed to move cases along and suspending them should be the last resort.
Investigating with integrity means being able to look at a given case's status with the same objectivity as the reporting deadline is drawing near. If a case can be closed, it should be closed. If not, it should be kept open… even it means missing the quarterly target for closing cases.
https://magazine.ethisphere.com › i...
STMicroelectronics: Investigating with Integrity - Ethisphere Magazine
Look it up! Do some research.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I like it when Homicide Dicks find a deceased subject and name him the offender to unrelated murder just so that can Exceptionally Cleared Closed the case. A dead man can’t talk and can’t be prosecuted. They’ll never have to look for the real perp. Case closed.
12/30/2023 04:40:00 AM
Have u never worked in the hood?? A lot of the time that is indeed the case. He’s a homicide victim because he probably shot and or killed someone. Todays victim tomorrows offender just as todays offender is tomorrows victim
The dead guy might be responsible for one or two cases in the past. But this new number fudging to secure promotions is making him just short of a serial killer.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I like it when Homicide Dicks find a deceased subject and name him the offender to unrelated murder just so that can Exceptionally Cleared Closed the case. A dead man can’t talk and can’t be prosecuted. They’ll never have to look for the real perp. Case closed.
What’s even worse is when they put the case on a living subject, and then the real perp comes forward, in jail, decades later and the city has to shove out 6 million of our money. All due to the pressure to close cases. Eight more months and I’m out.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
That may be select cases that were CI'd by CCSAO but I call b.s. on widespread closures by detectives. No one is approving reports solely on that. But, CCSAO can reject solely for lack of witness cooperation.
Just because the CCSAO rejects a case, that doesn’t give you the right to close it.
Anonymous said...
What is the current clearance rate?? Heyjackass no longer posts that data.
12/30/2023 12:11:00 PM
It’s impressive. They are XCC them.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
SCC, this time you are incorrect. If the witness provided an I.D. via a line-up and then refused to cooperate further in the prosecution and the State refused to prosecute without a C/ I and there were no further leads you could XCC the job due to “bar to prosecution”. I’ve been there, done that.
No you’re incorrect. There is no statute of limitations on a murder. The witness can change their mind at anytime and decide to cooperate. A new witness can emerge at anytime. A new witness can be identified at anytime. A new lead can develop at anytime. An offender can come forward and confess at anytime. DNA can identify an offender at anytime. Homicide case stays with the detective until they are solved. You’re talking about the new scam they’re using to increase the clearance rate. The scam involves detectives discouraging witnesses, not searching for witnesses and not returning phone calls.
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And you are incorrect. Even if you CCX (Clear Close Exceptionally) a homicide, it can be reopened if additional evidence/ witnesses are found. This happens about .00001%. Therefore the case is closed (CCX) as per the first detective’s comments.
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No you and the first poster are incorrect. You can’t XCC a case in the first place when there is a possibility that it can be solved. I know you’re Lt. told you otherwise, but that’s incorrect.
Closing murders with no arrests or convictions. I’ll take it. No arrests, no court and I can still get promoted, Ayyyeeee!
Any updates on the Sox Park shooting?
pretty soon with the help of all these "violence interrupters and social worker's" there will zero murders and we won't have to worry about how to close them
To the guy with a hard-on about XC/C’ing cases, who says he’s leaving the department in 8 months-
just pack it in now.
If you’ve been on CPD for more than 4 minutes and still use the term “perp” as you have in multiple posts, you are not a Chicago copper and never have been.
I processed juveniles in 2023. Sadly without OT I made 149,000. Sadly I make the same as every Homocide detective makes in all the areas... My complaint is somebody stole my MOUSE from my desk...
Don’t worry these new Homicide teams they are making with 4 years on the job detectives will suspend all the cases. Work Monday through Thursday and have weekends off..
12/31/2023 03:56:00 AM
You’re also obviously not a detective, if you were you’d know homicide cases can’t get suspended.
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