Overreach?
Sorry, but we don't trust this asshole any farther than we can throw him:
- In Illinois, 114,000 people are banned from owning guns because of
legal tangles or mental health issues — three-quarters of them haven’t
surrendered their firearms, according to data the Cook County sheriff
will present Thursday.
Sheriff Tom Dart is seeking $10 million from state lawmakers to tackle what he calls in naming the report “A Firearm Regulation Crisis.” The money would train and equip more door-knocking officers to retrieve or ensure the safe storage of weapons from those who have had their state Firearm Owners Identification cards rescinded.
The aim would be reducing the chance potentially volatile people would exhibit the type of violence seen when a shooter who wasn’t allowed to own a firearm carried out a massacre at Henry Pratt Co. in a Chicago suburb.
The failures across all levels of government here are quite astonishing:
- gun owners who have their FOID card revoked are sent a letter to surrender or transfer their guns to a qualified individual or nearest police station;
- should the now-revoked person failure to complete the required paperwork, another stern letter is sent...again and again and again and....
We don't think felons or domestic abusers (looking at you Steinberg) or the mentally ill should have guns. In those cases, a lengthy and thorough investigation should have taken place and been adjudicated in a court of law....just not a court in Cook county.
But what happens if the current FOID case working its way through the courts ends with the card being declared unconstitutional? Don't worry....they'd NEVER go door-to-door trying to take guns.
Labels: county, gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
44 Comments:
Knock knock.
Who's there?
Candygram......
Masters Masters Masters
Never open the door or let these gun crew's in your home. How many old ladles have given their husbands vintage weapons to these statistic hungry gun teams.
Are you kidding. Chomping at a he bit to go door to door. Could be the Revolution tipping point. Better have a good supply of deputies as there would be a need to replace the shot ones.
Team of 5 in a fatal funnel would be a turkey shoot to even the most unexperienced of shooters who have a purpose. Shields can protect against 556 and 762 as long as the person holding the shield does not trip and fall upon entry. Cooking oil can be used for this purpose. There is just so much that can go wrong. Seen it all in Iraq.
Um,yeah... Get back to me when you and your fellow travelers publicly proclaim you won't go door to door demanding people surrender their guns. Hang on a tick... Proclaim you will vow to start in the areas where "switches" seem to be popular. No? Bueller? Bueller? Hello?
Yep, I’m going to tap on some schizo’s door and ask where his guns are. And when he comes out shooting and I’m then vilified for creating a violent situation? Pass, thanks. And if they simply don’t answer the door? That, my friends, results in a more stern letter.
Trying to justify the existence of his office and increase his budget.
That's why he keeps popping up in different places getting face time with the press.
Jail population is down
Crimesha releases offenders, rarely a trial
And you can only patrol unincorporated Cook county so much.
Save the patronage jobs for the Dem party.
He is trying to rebrand to survive
Does the county even have the manpower to do this? Sure they'll violate the constitution on 1 or 2 people, all with the media in tow, but I would think their manpower situation is as bad as ours.
Not everybody with a FOID card owns a gun. My son has a card, just so he can go to a range to shoot with his friends.
( he doesn't personally own a firearm )
Sell your gun to patriots that cherish the 2nd amendment. Your grandfathers give the thumbs up.
America
Just run the jail and STFU Tommy! I
No post for the officer down? I remember when we lost an officer, everyone was heart broken. Now, no one even mentions it because it's just another day that ends in Y. Getting far too common and everyone too desensitized. Horrible times...
Moulon Labe
From my cold dead fingers
Fart is looking for the easy gun grab. He claimed tragedies have occurred because these desperados haven’t given up their cards or guns. What tragedies exactly, how many, as many as the tragedies heaped upon Chicago, Cook County, by the under- charged, released without bail, repeat gun offender true criminals?
How many of these revoked FOID holders have been able to buy guns after revocation? If any have, and the state police background check failed to stop the sale, then that is solely a result of failed bureaucracies set up by inept politicians like dart.
The fact is that dart, criminalisha, peckerwinkle, and many clown mayors, allow the real criminals to persist in the terrorizing the citizens of this county. The priority should be street crime being perpetrated by real criminals, that never had FOID cards to begin with and are way more dangerous to society.
It’s election season, dart needs his name in the media for future higher-office ambitions.
Tell Leo to put your laundry down and chase real criminals.
How many of these 114,000 have shot somebody?
So instead of enforcing the gun laws we have in the books and prosecuting, The DEMORATS want to go after the Law abiding citizens and fuck with our Constitutional right to bear arms, (esp in our own homes) who honestly want it to protect themselves or families. Dont answer the door for any Law enforcement!!! DemoRats ONLY protect the Criminals.
Styxx on the topic of unconstitutional Illinois gun laws:
https://rumble.com/v4vr4th-most-illinois-residents-are-ignoring-their-unconstitutional-antigunnery.html
I have had several people over the years use my address to get out of state-mandated drug programs and other purposes, they simply used my house as a number to report and nobody ever checked it out. I have a huge folder of official mail from agencies, hospitals, various law enforcement bodies for 5 different people. I have had County Sheriff's Deputies serving warrants knock on my door looking for persons who have never lived at my address and when told that, demand proof they never have.
FOID or not, we have to disarm the Catholic community so we can shut them up.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Are you kidding. Chomping at a he bit to go door to door. Could be the Revolution tipping point. Better have a good supply of deputies as there would be a need to replace the shot ones.
Really? What is it you’re trying to say?
This is gone to far. The legislature passed a law last year where any LE can with the clicks of a computer have the State Police rescind your FOID cards. Going on in southern Illinois, another reason to screw over those people that tell them to vacate the land. All they say you are dangerous to yourself because you became angry at them..
Only a Judge in a court should have the right to revoke a FOID card, and Darts people should need a Search Warrant to enter a residence.
Remember a single copper died of natural causes in the 001 First District. The Tac Sgt decided to take all his weapons five and turn them in as a weapons turn in.. No respect for the family, they could have left the weapons there in the deceased po s safe.
His brother and sister tried to get the weapons went and got FOID cards went to the 001 Dist to get the Commander to release the guns..Commander refused because it occurred with his predecessor..they go to Area 4, get the weapons signed off.
Go to ERPS denied. Finally go to Corporation Council. Get order to return weapons.
Weapons returned with engraved inventory number, and coppers name and star. 2 year wonder..
Guns useless, the gun shops would not purchase or accept as a trade in..marked CPD. THIS was 1996..
We even screw are own over. Screw Dart that pandering democratic xxxgina.
Fuck Steinberg.
"Anonymous said...
Masters Masters Masters
5/18/2024 01:20:00 AM"
I'll be less than 20% of the readers know what that means LOL!
ask dart how many of the prisoners he and crimeesha let out of jail are caught with guns
Refer these matters to US Attorney’s Office for Federal Prosecution.
Felon in Possession is violation of 18 USC 922 ( codification of Gun Control Act of 1968).
The Elements of Proof are simple and straightforward:
1. Proof of Felony Conviction by US Federal, ANY State, or ANY Tribal Court, or General Court Martial ( UCMJ)
2. Proof of Possession of ANY Firearm ( loaded or unloaded, bought or stolen, acquired before of after Felony Conviction)
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Are you kidding. Chomping at a he bit to go door to door. Could be the Revolution tipping point. Better have a good supply of deputies as there would be a need to replace the shot ones.
Really? What is it you’re trying to say?
5/18/2024 01:03:00 PM
Oh, stop it.
Yes, really.
What is it you are trying to do?
It never ceases to amaze me the felons with many convictions carry guns without a worry in the world. It's truly a case when you've got nothing you got nothing to lose.
A legal CC holder that puts one of these felons at room temperature will be put thru the legal wringer.
Here's another thought. Ask the IDOC how many inmates are there solely for possessing a firearm while being a convicted felon. If you can even get a straight answere from them share it with us SSC readers.
I'm Retired LEO
Try and come to take my guns, I guaranty you a bloodbath. Nobody taking my guns. Fuck FATASS and DART the VAGINA.........
Seems to me that all law enforcement officers are sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America which includes the Second Amendment. Violating their oath of office by treading on citizen rights under the second amendment makes Dart and his marauderS civil rights violators, no??
Cold dead hand.
Felons ought to be able to arm themselves. The 2nd Amendment is an unassailable right. One's right to self protection is a God given one that man has no authority to infringe upon. The 2nd amendment doesn’t separate out a subset of the population for disqualification. The right to bear arms is absolute!
Drive around with a few guns, with switches, in the car, get stopped, no prosecution from Cabrini Kim. Say "get fucked" to some suburban ticket writer, and you're banned from having a gun.
This state and county are a fuckin joke.
All these shit leftist politicians babbling about "gun violence " are the same ones who refuse to enforce laws that would actually stop it. Scum like Kim Foxxxxxxx knocks back violent felonies to a case of spitting on the sidewalk, if she even prosecutes at all. Leftist judges release violent criminals back on the street even before the arresting officer gets off shift.
But please, keep telling us how an expired FOID card is a violent threat that requires seizing lawfully owned firearms.
If you transfer your weapon to a "qualified" person, that person needs a FOID card? That person is not a 'owner' persay. You also need to notify ISP of the transfer.....smacks of big brother.
They say transfer your guns to a responsible person???? Then according to the law you must notify ISP of the transfer? Or not?? Does the "responsible " person need a FOID? They aren't the owner....they are just holding it for you......so many questions, so little time.
Can I get a reacharound with that overeach?
Surprised to see Dart left Roe Conns behind.
Interesting how some of the news stories touting Dart's money grab neglected to mention transferring firearms to another person. Some just said you have to turn in your FOID card and guns if revoked. By the way, do you know another reason for FOID revocation? MOVING OUT OF STATE.
There are at least 2 cases winding their ways through the Illinois courts and more cases in the Federal system that challenge the Illinois FOID law as unconstitutional. It is probably illegal under the FOPA (Firearm Owners Protection Act) but that doesn't seem to matter to lawmakers.
Other Federal courts have ruled that requiring a person accused of domestic violence to surrender firearms is unconstitutional as there is the presumption of innocence and it is only an allegation.
There are about a dozen cases in the courts right now regarding assault weapons and magazine size limits. Some circuits have already struck down magazine size limits.
This is a trial run by Crook County for all to look at and add to their ability to take guns away from lawful citizens. If you didn't renew your FOID card does that make it revoked?? If you moved and later returned to that pisshole would you still be revoked?? They don't care. This is a gun grab, period.
I read recently the Supremes will hear a case regarding the demand that the local government makes a potential gun buyer obtain a government issues permit. There is a temporary hold placed by the appellate court for enforcing that law.
I always thought the Illinois FOID card, is a tax on a Constitutional right to possess a firearm. Similar to a poll tax, that prohibited the blacks and poor from voting because they could not pay the poll tax. The Supremes said the government could not place a tax on a Constitutional right. I am not a lawyer, but I know many, and in My opinion the government cannot place conditions or taxes on a lawful purchase of a firearm. Sales tax, I'm sure, should be paid as with any purchase.
I live in Arizona, and we do not need any permit to open or conceal carry here. The law prohibits ex-cons from owning a gun as with almost every state.
Gestapo much, Dart ?
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