Pension Shenanigans
Someone posted in the comments section that there's a bill in Springfield trying to create a Tier 3 pension.
Not only that, but the bill is attempting to back date the Tier 2 pension to 2011 so as to screw a bunch of people with years already on the job.
Here's the link to the bill. We haven't read it yet, but it sounds like state legislators should be inundated with phone calls.
Labels: pension, state politics
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
42 Comments:
What about the DROP bill that got out of the house and is now in the state senate? That will be interesting if that passes.
I received the below email from FOP. . If anyone knows any POs who left the job before they got the Age 55 insurance the National FOP is offering the below insurance;
https://thinbluelinebenefits.com/nfop/
It is a clear violation of the state constitution.
You cannot change or lessen the benefits for employees already hired.
Only a new Tier 3 can be started for future employees.
10 years ago they increased the Park District pension contribution from 9% to around 11% for current employees at the time.
It was struck down by the State Supreme court and employees got their money back.
Why would they even attempt to draw up this bill?
Are they fuckin' stupid or what?
OR, is there some other hidden agenda?
I’m sure the FOP is very informed about it and will notify us… wait, they can’t even help with a simple fuckup by the city financial department. Vote every single FOP leadership position out. Need a whole new representative regime, top to bottom.
Sorry Rep Kifowit that ain't happening. This job has already driven Tier 2 recipients to leave and are awaiting their pension at 55. Plus, plenty of us are expecting the same. We will all leave, call our bluff. Especially the the veterans who you claim to be with your 2 ribbons, which you've acquired by doing a flex arm hang the military allowed you to do for political correctness. I'll be in contact with Aurora American Legion Post 84 and your constituents of the 84th district. How about save cost on illegal migrants budget and a list of others.
State legislators should be inundated with flaming bags of shit.
Well the young people want to vote and they support the democrats, so what can you say.
And the cut indoctrinating centers are not included same people that contribute almost nothing guess when you use tax money to buy elected morons you do whatever you want! Hmm thought Brandon and crew were against slavery looks like since him and the rest are owned they do what they are told!
Yes to Tier 3, no to backdating it.
Tier 3 - Employee pays 20% of pay into pension. Cannot be refunded for any reason except drawing pension upon retirement. Minimum retirement age is 60, mandatory retirement age is raised to 70. Maximum pension is 70%, plus all the blunt you can smoke for life.
No surprise they are trying to go to tier 3
Yet again, boat loads of cops not getting their LEMART bonuses, in last check and some that did it was a small percentage of the $1000 agreed upon. Not to mention, Bike trained, and CIT bonuses non-existent yet promised. Why isn't the FOP informing ALL MEMBERSHIP what problems are resolutions/grievances/etc. Why do they force thousands of members individually contact FOP email and phone calls inquiring and complaining. FOP needs to get more streamlined and more transparent and more proactive instead of keeping everyone in the dark. This is big crap when you don't update members on important issues regarding their money! If it was their checks, they would be first people complaining but when it comes to the lowly members WHO ACTUALLY PAY LARGE DUES FOR THEIR SALARIES, its not much to expect quick and up to date information on their website news section or Youtube Channel. WHERE IS OUR MONEY and BONUSES!??????? Why do we all have to call individually to find out!? UPDATE US ALL, and have a better system with dissemination of news and progress. Its wrong that half the membership haven't received the bonuses, and some only partial. I understand HR sucks, but come one FOP, we are paying you to update and fight for us and respect our concerns. It's not asking for much to keep us weekly updated with current information! If it was there money they would be on the phone and in peoples faces same damn day, but when it comes to us, the members paying the bills and salaries, they look at us with a funny nasty look or simply dont even return a call or email. We all remember this next election. I know I will. Who the good and bad ones were who helped me, or......ignored my ass.
If any changes to the tier 2-3 they had better improve the plan because tier 2 penalties are horrible
so how is this going to work if mandatory retirement is 62
12 years on the job. IL is about to retroactively f- me raw.
Leave it to our mindless legislature to make us pay for their mistakes.
Nobody will do you like family.
Nobody will rob your future like your Union Brothers & Sisters.
If you believe a Lie, does it not become your Truth?
Now the Dot. Gov bout' to Flim Flam Man your dumbasses.
Tiers for Fears.
And the cut indoctrinating centers are not included same people that contribute almost nothing guess when you use tax money to buy elected morons you do whatever you want! Hmm thought Brandon and crew were against slavery looks like since him and the rest are owned they do what they are told!
My God, I know this is a blog and you are trying to get a point across. Can you attempt to write a coherent sentence. Use some punctuation and perhaps proof-read what you wrote.
In the words of Willy Wonka:
You get nothing! You lose! Good day, sir!
80% after 35 years of service needs to happen.
You’d think that if FLOP was competent at all, they would have done some work last year when this new “contract” was being finalized and determined how each officer would be proven eligible to receive their earned certification pay. The reality is that NO ONE in that office has a brain. They’re useless, vindictive and incompetent. That’s a dangerous and harmful combo. I couldn’t hate this dept and wanna be union more if I was offered more pay to be certified in hating this dept and wanna be union.
Pension reform a the only way out. Time way past to cut back on the benefits that the state and cities have stupidly agreed to. No cost of living greater that SS. On pensions paid until 63 no matter how many years on job. This goes across board teachers , police city and state workers. The hole is so deep and high wage earners leaving state making it worse. Also no double dipping allowed. The pension Tracey train must end.
What's with FOP, only thing they post is when the store is closed. HOW ABOUT UPDATES EVERYDAY, start doing your job and keep the members updated. Thank God I am retired!!!
Democrats run on equal pay for equal work.
A two tier pension system isn’t fair .
Young officers must get involved.
End gold Brazil pension and pension fund will improve.
Pensions? Don't talk about pensions. You kidding me? Pensions? I just hope we can get another paycheck.
Anonymous said...
And the cut indoctrinating centers are not included same people that contribute almost nothing guess when you use tax money to buy elected morons you do whatever you want! Hmm thought Brandon and crew were against slavery looks like since him and the rest are owned they do what they are told!
6/21/2024 04:53:00 AM
And guess who has a job with CTU pension board? Their former CTU fake commie leader, Jesse Sharkey.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It is a clear violation of the state constitution.
Constitution Schmonstitution, democrats couldn’t give a rats ass about constitutions or the rule of law. They push as far as the people let them. It is eventually going to come down to a showdown between liberty loving citizens and the leftists in power, because there will be a line that will be crossed that the left will regret.
Since April this has been out there
Wouldn’t this be considered as diminishing someone pension which was ruled as “Unconstitutional”?
Maybe a Tier 3 going forward. But not retroactively.
I always love the people who shit-talk pensioners when things like this come out. They preach reform because they are leftist commies who voted for the leftist imbeciles who caused the problem. I haven’t heard people speak out much against the CTU and their bullshit. These people should call a teacher instead of 9-1-1 next time. This way, it’s assholes dealing with assholes, a level playing field.
After how many years are the State Police maxed out. At what age do they get medical?
Yet again, boat loads of cops not getting their LEMART bonuses, in last check and some that did it was a small percentage of the $1000 agreed upon.....
My God, it's a QUARTERLY CHECK! you don't get the whole $1000 at once. Maybe go to a meeting sometime or at least talk to your unit rep.
FFS
This bill is already DOA and has been. People need to start reaching out to their Unit Reps. If they are not up to the task, then find someone who is.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What about the DROP bill that got out of the house and is now in the state senate? That will be interesting if that passes.
6/21/2024 12:06:00 AM
I’ve heard a few different rumors as to how this bill would work, but I haven’t found the actual bill online. Anyone have the link or real info on the language included in this bill?
To the guy who says 80% after 35 years, I say, Get a damn life and leave the job. You have to be over 55 years old and after 35 yrs you ain’t doing shit anyway and nobody likes your shitty jokes. Leave, before I psyche yo ass. Your Boss.
These democrats and their fondness for retroactivity.
Boy, can this be a huge returning to bite them in their own asses.
I received the below email from FOP. . If anyone knows any POs who left the job before they got the Age 55 insurance the National FOP is offering the below insurance;
https://thinbluelinebenefits.com/nfop/
6/21/2024 12:20:00 AM
They list their numbers. Not very good. $2500 a month for the best plan for a family. It makes more sense to stay to 55. At 55 it's $2500 for the year.
Anonymous said...
I received the below email from FOP. . If anyone knows any POs who left the job before they got the Age 55 insurance the National FOP is offering the below insurance;
https://thinbluelinebenefits.com/nfop/
6/21/2024 12:20:00 AM
I've seen less expensive plans than these. Keep searching. It doesn't look like the national fop is doing us any favors with these prices
In the words of the immortal Jackie Gleason. And away we go...
This would cost them more money in the long run the thought of staying past 55 and going retroactive ha!! Absolutely not what a mess there’s no way this is right or fair I started this job (one of the reasons) because I could retire at 55 and now that I’m
On and I can’t imagine staying even if I wanted to till 63!! Bull shit you’ll have nothing but seniors walking around with aches and pains and sprains and they will regret this! The audacity Of the thought of going up to that age as the POLICE bull shit!!!!! How evil and wrong!
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Anonymous said...
I received the below email from FOP. . If anyone knows any POs who left the job before they got the Age 55 insurance the National FOP is offering the below insurance;
https://thinbluelinebenefits.com/nfop/
6/21/2024 12:20:00 AM
I've seen less expensive plans than these. Keep searching. It doesn't look like the national fop is doing us any favors with these prices
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Thanks for your insight. Your comment is about as useful as the “thank God I retired” comments. How about providing some links to help others since you seem to know so much about obtaining affordable health care options!
Vote for Rosemarie Giambalvo for retiree trustee seat October 2024
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