Who's Watching the Cameras?
Say what you want about ShotSpotter. When the alarms go off, there are dozens of eyes and cameras trained on the area - wherever ShotSpotter is based (they and their systems determine if the sound is an actual gunshot) and then cameras all over the SDSC rooms.
So who is watching the hundreds of cameras trained on Chicago landmarks and potential terror targets?
Buckingham Fountain is closed “until further notice” after vandals dyed the Grant Park landmark’s pool water red and spray-painted messages opposing the war in Gaza overnight.
Chicago Park District officials announced the closure Saturday morning, saying the city agency will perform maintenance to restore the fountain to its previous condition.
The amount of dye needed to color the 1.5 million gallons of water that circulate through Chicago's most recognizable landmark doesn't just come in one gallon containers. Not even close. So who's watching to see maybe half-a-dozen people hauling two gallons each or on the outside, two of three five-gallon buckets?
We're going to guess, "No one."
And guess what that means in August? Gauge the breeze, meet up a few blocks from the United Center, dump buckets of ammonia and bleach in a few dumpsters and let Mother Nature drift those clouds into the Near West Side. Or something worse.
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
61 Comments:
Somebody got some esplainin' to do.
Buckingham Fountain, featured in the opening credits of "Married with Children". The show aired in Germany, and German tourists in Chicago would refer to it as "Al Bundy Fountain".
Maybe the message they are trying to convey is, “The city streets are bleeding red” because of the gang violence.
The quantities of liquid ammonia and liquid bleach would have to be so large as to fill a construction sized dumpster for the reaction fumes to not be quickly dispersed by even a mild breeze. Not a good idea to be breathing in close proximity to, still, not likely to linger or be not diluted quickly by atmospheric movements.
Thus, no harm in posting this well known nasty combination of common household cleaning chemicals.
Now, that "or something worse" is on the minds of both those who strive to prevent such an event and those who plot to cause such an event.
Any terrorist event using atmospheric motion as the carrier of a toxic/noxious gaseous nature would seem to require a high risk to the actors engaging in handling any substances which could produce sufficient gaseous mass to be effective.
Incendiary substances, producing massive quantities of toxic/noxious materials might be a bit less risky to handle.
It might be reasonable to presume that chemicals of this type of toxicity/noxiousness are tightly controlled.
It might also be not reasonable to presume that this tightly controlled equals completely unattainable to terrorists.
Perhaps requiring ALL democrat politicians to be body present during the entire time of their convention would be a win/win, whatever occurs.
The amount of dye needed to color the 1.5 million gallons of water that circulate through Chicago's most recognizable landmark doesn't just come in one gallon containers. Not even close. So who's watching to see maybe half-a-dozen people hauling two gallons each or on the outside, two of three five-gallon buckets?
We're going to guess, "No one."
Prolly on break, equipment adjustment in DC office...
Does anybody know exactly what was used? I read it was paint which might damage the mechanics of the fountain.
I heard Israel is getting rid of its military and all weapons, and immediately ceasing all military action against Hamas, because some clowns turned water red in a Chicago fountain. It worked! The brave protest has saved countless lives! Now Hamas can get back to murdering and violating human rights without interference.
Are we going to have to start dipping our rounds in bacon grease again?
Man...
Blocking traffic, causing mass disturbances, damaging properties...
These assholes sure know how to get people on their side of the issue, right?
Morons.
They let it or were told to let it happen as part of a mostly peaceful protest. Insurance will pay for it.
Anyone arrested will have charges dropped before trial.
What’s even more likely is the cameras are not sufficient to adequately monitor all the hotspot zones at the dnc. Theyll have to bring in surveillance equipment and teams of people to monitor them if they hope to have adequate surveillance. Who’s going to pay for the surveillance?
This was harmless. You’d be surprised how much real important infrastructure is unmanned and under-surveilled. Who’s watching or stopping anyone from accessing the electrical stations, the internet substations, the cellular towers? Nobody is guarding them. Nobody can surveil them 24/7. This was obviously planned and ultimately harmless. What will happen when it will actually do real harm next time.
Really SCC...
Can we talk about climate change now....
two gallons red dye...really.
Brandon Johnson, who has the blackest administration ever, will say that this is Lori Lightfoot’s fault.
They better get some better trained sdsc officers on those cameras downtown. I bet you the feds are going to start looking at who at why the department failed to notice and why the beat officers didn’t notice.
The personnel watching the cameras replied: ZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Better now to have someone be watching the 3 cribs that take in the water filtered for the Chicago area. The cribs are 2 miles out in Lake Michigan and supply about 5 million area residents with fresh filtered water via the Jardine Filtration Plant. I remember in the early 1970s when some junior college kids tried to poison the city water system.
Protesters need to grow a set and take the issues to Israel and the Israeli government and see how that works out but they are cowards who wreak havoc on our soil and get away with it with zero repercussions
The Palestinians want us to be on their side by showing us that they can/will destroy our stuff. It makes us think that all they are good at is killing, raping, and destroying.
I worried a lot about that kind of thing after 911. Wouldn't be hard to create a mass casualty event using pretty common materials. Heck, look what McVeigh did in Oklahoma City with fertilizer and kerosine. Anyway, they do have some pretty sophisticated software that can track people after dark (using infrared cameras) and detect what they're up to simply by their motions, the time of night, etc. Probably can be used from drones too. But we don't have the force to follow up on suspicious activity. And, more importantly, the pro-crime ACLU and their minions on the progressive left and in Conehead's administration would scream bloody murder about the "civil rights" of terrorists to cause mayhem. (That's why he's pulling Shotspotter even though people will be bleeding out into the streets in a few months only to be found cold and stiff in the morning.) So, we just hope for the best until it's too late.
I recently received my diploma from Chicago State University in advanced security camera monitoring. I pasted at the top of my class and just wanted to let you know help is on the way.
All we do is give money to these people who hate us, just stop.
To the unpublished:
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it? We held up the SDSC Room as an example of a situation working once the alert was received.
In the meantime, who's watching the Park District cameras - of which there are nearly 50 within a two block radius?
Maybe citizens should do something. The government et al is worthless.
"I remember in the early 1970s when some junior college kids tried to poison the city water system"
Their ideas were interesting but not viable without some large backing of money and material. I was the Sgt on the raid of the basement apartment they were using as an amateur chem lab.
Interesting factoid, Jim Rochford learned of our investigation and came along and swung the hammer, and no the press was not along on the raid.
Thinking back to '68 the most iconic pictures of violence were around grant park. The Gen. Logan statue, the Band Shell. The Bridges over the IC tracks. If you wanted a re-creation for this year, with an eerie homage to then, there's plenty of stages for this new play. All we need is a director. Maybe, some old SDS Weather Underground retired guy. Anybody know one?
Just claim that the incident was done by MAGA Trump supporters and the FBI would send hundreds of agents here to solve the case and seek decades in prison for the offenders.
Amazing how corrupt chicago media really is they bypassed Buckingham Fountian story on Saturday morning.. Another dagger for Chicago tourism Don't feed the woke animals.. ..
Off topic .. City giving out free Nascar tickets & club food passes to Englewood, Austin folks and groups ..Imagine how conehead will waste the Shot Spotter money?
Hey SCC missed the big point.. just as BLM , Antifa never were investigated/ charged for their Summer of love violence .. because FBI gave/gives them a pass... so too this with Buckingham Terrorist attack. Those in charge looked the other way..dems always do it for their favored groups
The paint/dye likely damaged the fountain marble .. Lets go conehead!!!!
To the unpublished:
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it? We held up the SDSC Room as an example of a situation working once the alert was received.
In the meantime, who's watching the Park District cameras - of which there are nearly 50 within a two block radius?
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To the unpublished (EXEMPT, suckhole, sdsc phone call or desk dollie):
There I fixed it for you. Welcome.
No Palestine is a good Palestine.
Brandon has a plan. It starts by looking at the root causes of middle eastern conflicts.
Instead of dyeing a fountain, go back to Palestine and fight for hamas. And all the scantily clad female protestors, please go there as well and see how Sharia law suits you. Imbeciles. And only cowardly terrorists cover their faces.
One would think that special employment at the park district would be abundant after this week unless they don’t offer that anymore and thus the results of the past few days
Stay safe
SAD!!! back when Iran was at war with Irak, the water fountains in Iran displayed red water to symbolize the life of their soldiers lost fighting. That's the playbook these coward protestors are trying to imitate!
Park district will now have security there 24/7 until the pranksters/protestors hit another spot. Fact is, there’s no way they can adequately monitor and guard all the areas. They’ll hit the bean soon and then who knows. And Chicago supports this. Remember, we’re going to send our Chicago armies to enforce a cease fire soon.
While I agree that bleach and ammonia would be quickly dispersed, the means to create a toxic cloud are all around the city. Think 'Tesla'.
Just one EV fire is a nightmare for CFD. Eight would be...
Ammonia and bleach?
What about Ammonia and rubbing alcohol or
Ammonia and hydrogen peroxide any thought on that being unlikely?
Lucky if the cameras are actually working !! Most are out of commission these days as they've reached their end of life cycle and should be replaced !!
Anything Chicago=FAILURE
Since the Marxists running chicago want to defund the police and hire migrants cartel leaders to do the job Americans with half a brain no longer want to do. These brown shirt activist and DNC violence interruptors could be given ring doorbell body cameras to hang around their necks and patrol the perimeter. After all the wepaonized justice system is no longer about law and order and justice. ITS about taking pictures and using the pictures to create a narrative of fear that can be used as a tool to remove freedoms for our safety.
Wearing a ring doorbell camera around your neck like a body cam because the camera is activated by motion detection AND if you configure the door bell portion right ringing the bell could alert the social workers to respond to the guy with a gun issue to talk about the gunman feelings and if they hated their parents growing up.
Come to think of it the ring door bell as a bodycam since they have two way audio the social workers don't even have to leave their offices or COPA if they are needed. It would be like an on-demand real-time zoom call to address crime..
The call takers can be AI bots first for screening then passed over to the actual.call taking people located in offices in India
Lmfao now where's my six figure city consultant fee?
God forbid if you ride your divvy bike or lime scooter on a rainbow painted flag, you get a felony. Yet no one gives two sh*t about a true landmark.
just a little Hawk Tuah will clean up the fountain.
I have often wondered if the cameras are ever watched or checked
Shotspotter guys are too busy shopping, watching matlock, and shooting the shit.
The water treatment plant by Navy Pier has enough chlorine to kill a lot.
The a ammonia based HVAC system in the hchs building at the south end of Grant Park could kill a lot, too.
Park dist has dozens of cameras at Meigs upstairs. Problem is you have to be awake to view them.. Dont worry Tony Liace is on the case. Arrests pending……..
Out of kaos comes order
NASCAR is co-opting this and using yellow dye to geyser up for caution green dye for go balls out again
Spurts of black and alternate white coloring to signal winner
Brilliant
It doesn't take as much dye as anyone things to do this amount of damage. Do some research on leak testing dyes to see how much it actually takes. I bet the miscreants who did this just did that to determine how much dye was needed. On a brighter note, does this red dye mean Chicago is turning into a "red" conservative city? Naah...must be too much Knob Creek.
Casper??
The personnel watching the cameras replied: ZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
6/23/2024 05:56:00 AM
Is this the melody that the Keesing Bandit hums....
When the Keesing Bandit is humming.....?
Thousands of spectators ringing the eighteenth hole today when half a dozen “protesters “ rush the green and dump who
knows what on the putting surface. Coppers grabbed them right up, and that was great, but, was I the only one who saw
a hazmat in the making? Was it flour? Was it powdered sugar? Was it anthrax? Seemed like there wasn’t a whole lot of
investigation before the PGA officials decided to move the hole to another part of the green for the playoff.
Lmfao now where's my six figure city consultant fee?
6/23/2024 02:00:00 PM
Why pay for watchers, when the internet supplies millions of nosy smart phone users to randomly monitor, for their own individual reasons, as many publicly accessible locations covered by these cameras?
All of the popular tourists' attractions.
All of the public buildings.
All of the many parks, tourist popular areas, including the Keesing Bandit's favorite haunts!
Why, just with that last one, we could become the Manila of the Midwest!!!
Anonymous said...
Better now to have someone be watching the 3 cribs that take in the water filtered for the Chicago area. The cribs are 2 miles out in Lake Michigan and supply about 5 million area residents with fresh filtered water via the Jardine Filtration Plant. I remember in the early 1970s when some junior college kids tried to poison the city water system.
6/23/2024 06:16:00 AM
Info about the water cribs:
Atlas Obscura
Crib demolishment
Info about cribs
Fog lights and horn power on cribs
Living at the crib
Lake camera from crib
If these two morons could get in there, what could some terroristias do?
There's an old map online which contains all the water tunnels...
All this shit scares the crap out of me because we have MORONS in charge of things in the City...
Those cameras are purely ornamental. Fat envelope generators. Watching things would result in people being arrested, and we can't have that, or there'll be more of BJ and Kimm's Kids in jail! >sarcasm<
Where’s the city’s Christopher Columbus statue?
Don't worry...the city is prepared for the DNC. {snicker} Our FOP hall better have 24-hour armed security the rest of the summer too. Anything in the public eye will be hit.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Better now to have someone be watching the 3 cribs that take in the water filtered for the Chicago area. The cribs are 2 miles out in Lake Michigan and supply about 5 million area residents with fresh filtered water via the Jardine Filtration Plant. I remember in the early 1970s when some junior college kids tried to poison the city water system.
6/23/2024 06:16:00 AM
They were going to dose it with LSD.
Don't worry...the city is prepared for the DNC. {snicker} Our FOP Hall better have 24-hour armed security the rest of the summer too. Anything in the public eye will be hit.
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The FOP Hall should be open as a refuge for coppers working the United Center footprint
The FOP Hall should be open as a refuge for coppers working the United Center footprint
6/24/2024 08:37:00 PM
And well stocked with pizza, ice cold beer and bulk showering facilities.
Oh, and have the sewer lines flushed clear for the aniticipated increased flowings.
No one's watching the cameras in CTA trains and stations, either - people who could and would dispatch police when they saw trouble brewing. Or just rules being brazenly broken. I've griped about this in my local newspaper; also suggested that each L line be designated as a police beat, with effective police patrols. CTA maybe doesn't have enough money to get rule enforcement, and Chicago doesn't have enough police, either. I've been able to ride Metra more often and it sure is a lot better.
Retired waterhead. Last I knew the cribs weren't being used cuz zebra and quaga mussels and cost. They were pulling the water right in by the playpen after Kenny I think collapsed the intake tunnel by lsd. Open secret. The threat from Jardine is not poison. It's the railroad tankers,now truck tankers full of chlorine passing thru downtown to the plant.peeps were freaked about that after 911 so they put Niles Sherman and some hdo laborers and drivers in charge of security. Should have used seal team 6 but you know it's chicago. Chlorine is the threat. Don't tell anybody !
Give the cwbchicago site access to camera feeds.
With transparency as the citizens' right to view in real time.
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