Four Years Later?
Facing a Disciplinary Hearing for shooting a fleeing felon, with a gun, who had just attempted to murder some other people (or folks), in broad daylight?
A Chicago police officer who fatally shot an apparently armed man in Little Village faces dismissal nearly four years after the encounter.
On Oct. 23, 2020, Marc Nevarez, 25, crashed a silver Ford Focus near West 26th Street and South Ridgeway Avenue and ran from officers who suspected him and his passengers of being involved in a shooting in the area, authorities have said.
Officer [RG] fired three times at Nevarez as he ran down 26th Street with a revolver in his hand, striking him two times, according to authorities. Nevarez was taken to Mount Sinai Hospital, where he was pronounced dead.
The Civilian Office of Police Accountability had recommended [RG] be fired for use of deadly force without justification and failing to turn on his body-worn camera.
But interim police Supt. Fred Waller did not agree that the officer used force without justification and proposed a three-day suspension instead for the body camera violation.
On Thursday, police board member Andreas Safakas sided with COPA, ruling to allow a disciplinary hearing on the case “that provides due process to all parties.”
Seriously? In the middle of a hot pursuit after on-viewing the offenders fleeing from a shots fired incident, COPA want to hang its hat on a body-camera violation? When the partner Officer has the camera on and you can see the felon fleeing with the gun in his hand?
You ever try to turn on a camera in a speeding squad car when your heart is racing and you're trying to keep an eye on a guy you're sure is armed while drawing your own firearm with the other hand? We're 100% sure it wasn't intentional, but you know COPA - they're assholes.
At least Fred Waller made the correct decision in downgrading the camera violation and instead focused on the outstanding response by Officers. There better be a certain Use of Force "expert" at this hearing giving testimony in the Officer's case.
Labels: un-fucking-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
89 Comments:
This goes to arbitration case closed.
So, what's the lesson here?
Duh? Do not do a fuckin' thing.
Democrat Convention? MEDICAL.
Wake up people.
It was also caught on POD camera. From every angle, u can clearly see he was armed!!!
COPA has been out of control as of late. They have acquired too much influence and power. Fuck you FOP, Rotten Politicians, and spineless CPD brass that have done nothing but screwed over working police officers for many years!
Cuck Fopa…
Have all copa employees become rapid response cars in da hood and have officers become copa.
Watch the fun.
I'd bet the department already gave the officer an award for his actions that day. Now COPA wants to fire him? You can't make this stuff up.
No one who has not been the police should judge the police.
Think about it.
Creative
Operatives
Political
Agitators
Pure garbage.
If he used deadly force without justification he would have been criminally charged. These are the same idiots who tried to give an officer killed in the line of duty a 3 day suspension.
Think the next time you see someone with a gun. It isn’t worth losing your life or ruining your life.
I’m speechless.
Consider what they are doing to this officer. Consider the upcoming volatile summer and DNC. Consider what the current Democrat administration has done to weaponize the US DOJ against the other Party and anyone else who disagrees with their Marxist policies. It appears that in this Marxist City the political structure is in lockstep with the administration and DOJs policy to crush any opposition. COPA’s decision is absurd. You could be in the same jeopardy this summer & at the DNC.
They will get you if you forget to turn your camera on, and will definitely get you for any action they deem inappropriate to the “peaceful protesters” (terrorists). You will be placed in situations where you will have to make on the spot split decisions and COPA staffers will pick apart your actions over months or years. And all done by people who never experienced your job.
Hey one less for DNC.
And they expect us to stick our necks out for the DNC? This one is the nail in the coffin for me. I’ve had enough. I booked a doctor’s appointment for next week and a lake house rental in August. Have fun Dems, I hope my house is still standing when we get back.
Cameras should be voice activated
Jumping out to chase somebody when you need your gun,flashlight, keying radio to get help all require manual dexterity
You want body cameras make them user friendly
All this crap just makes police scared to do their job. Either the bad guy gets you or cop hating public gets you.
No wonder police recruitment and retention is low. The risk isn't worth the salary anymore.
The cop did society justice by eliminating the pos as usual he may get hung by the his balls
What will Conehead say, or is he too busy getting his multi-thousand dollar makeover?
No keeses for them!!!!
I've been saying for years and many people who know me have heard me say this so they will know who this is coming from...there is no reason the union has not filed a federal lawsuit requiring all COPA investigators to go through annual "shoot don't shoot" training and interactive video scenarios and have their interactive training recorded. This is the only way to make some headway with argument during findings. I believe we have a great union and they do great work however we need to be more on the offense instead of defense....in solidarity, a now very happy retired brother in blue.
More progressive BULLSHIT!!!
In a real world this police officer should be getting a Medal of Honor
And some people wonder why cities cannot attract people to sign up to be cops!
If they can't beat you they'll bankrupt you. Be careful.
Clearly they're not trying to fire him for merely a body cam violation. Its the old, police shot someone running away from them who didnt point their weapon at the officer. COPA doesnt view offenders having guns in their hands as threats that rise to the level of being able to use deadly force. Everyone should know this by now
Can u blame any police officer for not wanting to do anything anymore? When u have an entity like COPA just waiting, drooling, to fuck your whole life up if u make any mistake. If exempts are wondering why there’s no activity, numbers, stops they need to look no further than this case. Until they get copa off our backs, I can’t imagine anyone doing anything proactive at all.
Shooting bad guys is bad, shooting good guys is good. Lenin would be proud.
If you can’t use deadly force per COPA, then disarm the police.
They can use verbal judo, tasers, and crisis counselors against criminals.
Anonymous said...
Cameras should be voice activated
Jumping out to chase somebody when you need your gun,flashlight, keying radio to get help all require manual dexterity
You want body cameras make them user friendly
6/22/2024 05:09:00 AM
Alexa, turn on video.
Fk COPA and all of their investigators. They are clueless, stupid and BIAS fk them all.
Anonymous said...
Cameras should be voice activated
Jumping out to chase somebody when you need your gun,flashlight, keying radio to get help all require manual dexterity
You want body cameras make them user friendly
6/22/2024 05:09:00 AM
Have you ever worked a 2 man beat car & if you did, did you just sit in silence and stare at each other for 8 hours???
The shit we used to talk about I don't think others need to hear it
Retired 5 years ago after doing 33
I don't know how you guys & gals can do it every day
I used to love going to work, chuckling to myself on the way in thinking about what I was gonna see today but then again I had great bosses for the most part, a great watch & awesome partners.
Please be safe & get home to your loved ones
I feel the Officer acted appropriately and did an outstanding job , but with that being said no one and I repeat no one should do any proactive police work after reading this post. The city is making it very clear that they do not want the police to be aggressive and proactive. 4 years later this matter is brought up and now they want to fire this copper for doing a great job? All CPD should go hangout at a firehouse and learn their routine. You leave the firehouse when you’re called upon. That’s what the routine of all Chicago coppers should be , answer your calls and go chill out. Fuck COPA! Fuck the City of Chicago! Collect a check and call it a day. Oh and don’t forget to hit the medical from August 19-22.
Dear TROLL,
Blah blah blah, same old rhetoric over and over again.
Thanks for your advice but who do you think you’re really getting your message to?
Shitheads reading this gotta be laughing their asses off…
“ They will get you if you forget to turn your camera on, and will definitely get you for any action they deem inappropriate to the “peaceful protesters” (terrorists). You will be placed in situations where you will have to make on the spot split decisions and COPA staffers will pick apart your actions over months or years. And all done by people who never experienced your job.”
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The message is clear:
Criminals, especially of color, are a protected species. DO NOT INTERFERE WITH THEIR CRIMINAL ANTISOCIAL BEHAVIOR.
It comes down to bad parenting, or no parenting.
Anyone reined in by a good parent, teacher, pastor/priest would not turn out that way.
Go blame the police? Go look at yourself in the mirror, for a change.
Now go out there and go get em boys n girls! Your daily reminder that proactive policing died years ago and this is what you face by doing so.
Where are the “just do your job” morons? It’s perplexing how whenever there is a story about disciplinary abuse perpetrated by city entities, the “rah…rah….rah…goofs never chime in.
Fuck Chicago. Leave.
Guys Lay down during the DNC. Let the savages take over the city, fuck 'em all. Dont jam yourselves up by using force. Let the fuckers riot on the world stage. Most of all when that silly, corrupt prick Biden is here.
“Can u blame any police officer for not wanting to do anything anymore? When u have an entity like COPA just waiting, drooling, to fuck your whole life up if u make any mistake. If exempts are wondering why there’s no activity, numbers, stops they need to look no further than this case. Until they get copa off our backs, I can’t imagine anyone doing anything proactive at all.“
The copper didn’t make a mistake.
"Those who fight monsters inevitably change. Because of all that they see and do, they lose their innocence, and a piece of their humanity with it. If they want to survive, they begin to adopt some of the same characteristics as the monsters they fight. It is necessary. They become capable of rage, and extreme violence.
There is a fundamental difference, however. They keep those monster tendencies locked away in a cage, deep inside. That monster is only allowed out to protect others, to accomplish the mission, to get the job done.....Not for the perverse pleasure that the monsters feel when they harm others. In fact, those monster tendencies cause damage...GUILT, ISOLATION, DEPRESSION, PTSD. There is a cost for visiting violence on others when you are not a monster. Those who do so know one thing...The cost inflicted upon society as a whole is far greater without those who fight monsters. That is why they are willing to make that horrible sacrifice so that others may live peaceably.
Before you judge one of us, remember this...
We witness things that humans aren't meant to see...and we see them repeatedly. We perform the duties that you feel are beneath you. We solve your problems... Often by visiting violence upon others. We run towards the things that you run away from. We go out to fight what you fear. We stand between you, and the monsters that want to damage you. You want to pretend that they don't exist, but we know better. We do the things that the vast majority are too soft, too weak, too cowardly to do.
Your life is more peaceful.....because of us.
The current political climate in this country holds that there is nothing worth fighting for. Submission is the popular mantra. Warriors are decried, denigrated, and cast as morally inferior. We know how childish, how asinine, and how cowardly that mindset is.
We know this.....There ARE things worth fighting, and dying for. We know that not every problem can be solved through rational discourse...that some problems can only be solved through the application of force and violence. And, while we do prefer the former....we are perfectly capable of the latter.
We believe that fighting what others fear is honorable, noble, and just....and are willing to pay the price for that deeply held belief. Why? For us, it isn't a choice...
It is what we are. We are simply built that way."
- AUTHOR UNKNOWN
The copper is a hero and this is how he gets treated
Actually, this can be addressed via the Consent Decree thru Aldermanic pressure
I hope the officer beats out this phony charge. Even if he does, COPA has put him through 4 years of stress and anxiety. They don't care as they are a bunch of chair bound idiots. I say, do nothing. Do not chase anyone, on foot or in a car. Don't race to shots fired calls with equipment on. Just take your time. Do not write any citations, refuse an assignment to tact. Even if you are 100% correct it could cost you.
You are in need of psychiatric evaluation if you’re attending the DNC. COPA and BIA will bend you over and shove that big CR Cock where the sun don’t shine. Hope the years of avoiding the beat car were worth it. Sucks to be you if you OWE! Grab your helmets and toe the line.
Just another reason why I say “don’t do shit”. Don’t chase in a car or on foot. Dammit man. Just don’t do it. Cut paper and move on. No chases. Never, ever, fucking forget about chases. Go home at the end of your tour and relax. Oh, one more thing, did I say screw COPA? Well, screw COPA. If you ever come across a COPA investigator look for something he or she is doing and make a beef. Screw ‘em. Be safe.
Think the next time you see someone with a gun. It isn’t worth losing your life or ruining your life.
But sergeant said I’m a hero if I bring a gun.
copa was already told to justify any police shootings of the rioters at the dnc
Just call in
Social
Workers
And
Therapists
Straight up bullshit!
Did copa reinvestigate the merit of duty black sarge that shot an unarmed mentally challenged black teenager?
Make note. He wasn’t responding to a call, never called 911 because he felt threatened, he could’ve just left?
No story here. Black merit says it all. He’s politically connected.
Don’t do any police work. As far as I’m concerned the DNC is an opportunity for early Christmas shopping for the protesters. Shop until you drop.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Clearly they're not trying to fire him for merely a body cam violation. Its the old, police shot someone running away from them who didnt point their weapon at the officer. COPA doesnt view offenders having guns in their hands as threats that rise to the level of being able to use deadly force. Everyone should know this by now
6/22/2024 07:24:00 AM
He was running in the direction of others with a loaded gun in his hand. We still have an obligation to protect lives and property. He was a fleeing felon.
Woke drunk ghetto judge arrested for assaulting police
Tells cop " ...the last time someone treated me like this they found them dead 30days later
.."
Body cam
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XfPi2i6phjs
The 1st mistake that officer made is his involvement in ghetto affairs. Seat on your hands till retirement and enjoy the carnage.
Anonymous said...
So, what's the lesson here?
Duh? Do not do a fuckin' thing.
Democrat Convention? MEDICAL.
Wake up people.
6/22/2024 12:08:00 AM
Solid plan, no way will I be working that nonsense. City can burn.
And another reason I say wtf is anyone still policing in these neighborhoods.. the POs bwc was activated late, not never. In the video you can clearly see the offenders gun with its finger on the trigger aimed directly at the POs legs aka popliteal artery.
His bwc caught the events that mattered just without sound... was sound going to make the incident not justified?!?!?
https://postimg.cc/QBqkt3mV
COPA is running amok because this clown mayor is allowing it, behind the scenes he is ok with it. It is mind boggling that there are Police Officers still working out there, hearing these 2 year wonder tac boys telling their war stories have me like are you not watching the news. P.O.'s are getting indicted for doing their job, for doing what they were trained to do. Then have the Superintendent of the Gym instructors lie and say that that was not the way they were trained. Come the DNC let the protestors right into the United Center no big deal, let this clown politicians reap what they sow.
What the bloody hell
How about the 011 district tact team including the Sgt dropping to froms to go back to the watch because good ole LT duckins wanted more numbers from them! Well done fellas except the one guy who didn’t put a to from in because he’s banging the LT.
The message is clear:
Criminals, especially of color, are a protected species. DO NOT INTERFERE WITH THEIR CRIMINAL ANTISOCIAL BEHAVIOR.
6/22/2024 09:25:00 AM
Protected from me?
Surely you jest.
Chalkie
"... some other people (or folks)..."
I see what you did there.
Just a Civilian (who doesn't know who is which)
And the department is expecting what exactly from us. Good luck with the DNC.
2:44pm youre preaching to the choir. As I said, COPA doesnt agree and has repeatedly looked to fire officers for shooting fleeing offenders despite the fact theyre still carrying a weapon and might have just been in involved in a shooting. No one should be surprised at their decision in this case
Getting revenge on these communist bastards is as easy as doing nothing. Stand aside and let the crazed leftist savages bum rush the Democrat convention site and have their way with the place.
It’s time COPA gets neutered! Enough is enough with these uneducated one sided morons!
You honestly have to be a special stupid to do a lick of anything on this job. Cut paper when needed and that’s it. Give these idiots exactly what they want.
Where is the outrage from our Black Politicians and the Black Community over the death of Larry Neuman? If he was a gun toting thug shot by the police the city would be on fire. Amazing that a Proud Black Man from the Westside who accomplished so much in his extraordinary life is just a forgotten statistic in an adrift Black Community who feeds its fire with negative oxygen and terror in its own community. Why do our Alderman focus on nonsense about Hamas or Reparations yet neglect the pain of losing an exemplary man? We truly are rotten to the core.
When the crazy nutjob white kid shot up the Highland Park 4th of July Parade how quick was the media(and rightfully so) to point out the roll the idiot parents played and charged and investigated them. My question is why don’t Black Politicians use that same righteousness and call out the lack of a Father Figure in their son’s life leading to a predictable similar mayhem. Call out and shame this cowardly lack of responsibility which leads to over 80% of the violent crimes by only 17% of the population . I’m sorry but the truth hurts but is the first step in addressing this genocide.
Kind of off topic, I watched the press conference on Friday where the Sup (once again wearing cover under cover???) spoke about the 7 year old who was killed (I say murdered but what do I know, I thought when I’m uniform you take your hat off inside a bldg.) anyway, was it me or did the Female Chief of Detectives have her star on upside down?? At 1st I just thought it looked off but you can clearly see the top point of the 5 point star is upside down. Am I right or was this an optical confusion?
Ask the family of Andres Vazquez lasso if the officer should wait until the gun is fully pointed at the officer. If Vazquez lasso shot first he’d be going through the wringer chasing a shitbag with a gun. Not going to tell anyone how they should do their job just know chasing a guy with a gun can put you in a lose lose situation under these rules.
When the crazy nutjob white kid shot up the Highland Park 4th of July Parade how quick was the media(and rightfully so) to point out the roll the idiot parents played and charged and investigated them. My question is why don’t Black Politicians use that same righteousness and call out the lack of a Father Figure in their son’s life leading to a predictable similar mayhem. Call out and shame this cowardly lack of responsibility which leads to over 80% of the violent crimes by only 17% of the population . I’m sorry but the truth hurts but is the first step in addressing this genocide.
6/22/2024 09:26:00 PM
Oh Whitey, surely you jest? You expressed a common sense tool, but it ain't gonna happen.....ever. Common sense is not prevalent in many Chicago neighborhoods. And when common sense is suggested, it is labeled as racist.
“ Anonymous said...
Did copa reinvestigate the merit of duty black sarge that shot an unarmed mentally challenged black teenager?
Make note. He wasn’t responding to a call, never called 911 because he felt threatened, he could’ve just left?
No story here. Black merit says it all. He’s politically connected.
6/22/2024 02:28:00 PM”
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Anonymous said...
2:44pm youre preaching to the choir. As I said, COPA doesnt agree and has repeatedly looked to fire officers for shooting fleeing offenders despite the fact theyre still carrying a weapon and might have just been in involved in a shooting. No one should be surprised at their decision in this case
6/22/2024 06:53:00 PM
Because COPA is filled with left wing nut jobs who actually think it’s an officer’s duty to take a bullet rather than harm some “innocent” wronged by systemic racism.
upside down?? At 1st I just thought it looked off but you can clearly see the top point of the 5 point star is upside down. Am I right or was this an optical confusion?
Checked the photos on Facebook, it is on correct just sloppy.
COPA has been out of control as of late. They have acquired too much influence and power. Fuck you FOP, Rotten Politicians, and spineless CPD brass that have done nothing but screwed over working police officers for many years!
Best post! You my friend hit it on the head. They expect the most outta u but screw u at every turn. Remember watch and report
(I thought when I’m uniform you take your hat off inside a bldg.)
****
Not if under arms.
Scc that isn’t the real reason the 011th district coppers put in to froms. There is ALOT to this story. Good officers getting their career messes with here and it’s not right
Overall f—this job, it’s only a job. Don’t even think about hesitating to shoot when you need to. Otherwise you might end up 6 feet under and the ghetto rat is found not guilty by Crimesha’s kangaroo court, or if charged at all. Your duty is to kill the ghetto rat before he kills or your fellow officers. Judged by 12 beats being carried by 6. All day.
Fired three times at a moving target. Hit the offender twice. Dirtbag dies. Taxpayers saved millions by officers' actions. What's the problem????
The Capt in 011 is clueless. Have another cheeseburger Tri!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The 1st mistake that officer made is his involvement in ghetto affairs. Seat on your hands till retirement and enjoy the carnage.
6/22/2024 03:06:00 PM
Exactly, get the snacks and sodas ready, let the ghetto self-cleaning oven cleanse their own. Report, paper it, and repeat. The politicians will soon feel the wrath of their affairs in a bit as well.
The officer did what had to be done! Enough said!
He was running in the direction of others with a loaded gun in his hand. We still have an obligation to protect lives and property. He was a fleeing felon.
6/22/2024 02:44:00 PM
Where the fuck do you live? Pre-1980 W. That Was The Way It Once Was Boulevard?
The hard-chargers say they still give it their all as a matter of personal pride. Why not have personal pride in being wise and keeping yourself out of prison and/or fired?
It was a good shooting! Officer [RG] did exactly what is was trained to do. Not only did he follow Use of Force guidelines, he immediately rendered first aid to the offender. He's a great officer and should not be fired for doing what he was trained to do! Please be safe out there and make sure you come home to your family!
If this was such an open-and-shut case, why didn't COPA handle it years ago? They could have reviewed all the video from home during the pandemic right?
At this point, the whole thing doesn't pass the smell test. I'd be that someone's got their panties in a bunch over something else and is using this to make their point...
Who wants to have feral moron racist, copa,to review your job?
The officer did an outstanding job!! His only mistake is he did his job!!! These fuckers hate us . Let that sink in!
And this is why nobody in their right mind wants this fucking job (CPD)
Black police officer shoots an unarmed female white on January 6,2021 for trespassing. Democrats investigate and justified the murder??
Unarmed ,behind a wall,by a broken window,20-30’ away. Not a convicted felon,no audio released ,any verbal warnings? Did officer attempt to de escalate? Did he use pepper spray. My guess , he was scared, pulled gun without justification and it discharged.
Say her name Ashli Babbitt. When is the civil trial?
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