DSI Details (Allegedly)
From the comments (edited for paragraphs):
- Did some digging today on the new DSI program with some “friends”. Sounded good right? More OT opportunities for everyone? NOPE.
So it’s starting just weekends from 1900-0400hrs for the first month to work out the kinks. In June, it will be rolled out in 2 watches, 0800-1700 and 1900-0400. They want two start times because the 0800 start will help days and afternoons. 1900 will help afternoons and midnights. So it’s starting just weekends from 1900-0400hrs for the first month to work out the kinks. In June, it will be rolled out in 2 watches, 0800-1700 and 1900-0400. They want two start times because the 0800 start will help days and afternoons. 1900 will help afternoons and midnights.
The reason they are doing this is to put ALL OT in the hands of the chiefs and 1st deputies office. Commanders are pretty much going to lose control of how OT is assigned. For example.. in a district, 10 people volunteer to work an RDO on 3rd watch.. in reality, they really only need 4 officers to cover down cars.. who cares right?? Hire them all back and pay the OT to have more cars. So what’s going to happen, is on a weekly basis, every district will send patrol and the 1st deputies office the manpower projections for that week and request DSI cars to supplement. They will then decide through the DSI program how many officers to assign. So if they are only down 2 cars, then that’s all they get. If patrol thinks the district is fine being down only 1 car on the watch then they may not fill it at all.
Voluntary RDO OT is gone. If you want to do it, you need to sign up for DSI because it will no longer be allowed in units and districts without the authorization of the 1st deputies office and with the proper approved OT code. The commander can no longer let their watch commanders hire as many people as they want. The only hiring back in districts will be for supervisors and that will be done by a bid system open to all supervisors in that area. Highest in seniority of those that volunteer will win the bid to work that OT. Same with LT’s and all of that will be coordinated by the area deputy chiefs office so no more of just offering OT around the watch for someone to pick up the shift. All will be done by the area and open to all same area supervisors.
Voluntary traffic missions are gone. Snelling hates the blue card game and he hates the waste of money on “violence and robbery missions” that bring in 4 blue cards and a few parkers.
Tac and unit OT missions are gone and the reasoning is that they have plenty of time to do missions during their regular tour… technically their entire tour IS a anti violence mission so they don’t need them doing it on OT.
All Bureaus will be affected with OT being handled by the Chiefs office who will report to the first deputies office. Narcotics, gangs, intel, fugitive, Detectives, academy, caps everything.. it’s all getting changed and squeezed in all places.
Seems like .... overly complicated? Area-centric?
Some comments already say this is a complete misreading of the program, or even a fabrication. Someone else thinks that it's a way to field personnel on weekends that will be immediately deploy-able downtown for "protests" or "teen takeovers." We think that THAT is most likely of all the scenarios
Labels: department issues, info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
87 Comments:
Saw this posted last night. Has been debunked. DSI is just on the weekends with a night start time of 1900hrs. No plans for it to be the cure all or to solve all the problems. Most will be sent to 001, 018, 012, 011, 007, 010 and 006. Not many other districts will get help from this. 001 and 018 will be VERY heavily staffed from DSI.
Your gut feeling was absolutely correct SCC. These are fake details of the program and for OT and are made up. Commanders are still keeping OT control. A Lt from HQ I talked too laughed and said DSI won’t be the whipping boy and they just want 100-175 bodies per night for the weekend. They want minimum 100 to be downtown. The others will go to help tier 1 districts. HQ was moved to 4th watch and no more Saturday Sunday D.O.G and will be used primarily for protests on the weekends and DSI will be used for downtown security and answering jobs. All to do about nothing.
Have to justify all the deputy chief positions along with their staff
Clear as mud.
Squad, can I get an Event number for ducking early on my RDO?
Voluntary traffic missions are gone and so is Barz from Snelling hates the blue card game and he hates the waste of money on “violence and robbery missions” that bring in 4 blue cards and a few parkers.
Complete nonsense.
The one thing I agree with is eliminating all the nonsense missions. Never understood how an event number proves you're doing something to deter crime. Neither do blue cards or Parkers
No. This plan would be an absolute logistical nightmare and not a chance patrol or special events would be able to iron out the details let along enough officers volunteer for this to get the coverage that would even be needed. You would need almost 1000 officers per day to volunteer to be able to cover the amount of down cars in all the districts in the watches. Given I’m in an admin position and know how much of a nightmare this would be will be the first to say it’s false.
This is the control freak Chief of Patrol in action.
Enjoy working that bullshit overtime initiative and getting banged with a 1A job 30min before you’re tour ends. A dui auto accident w/injuries? That’s all you. A CSA call w/an offender still on scene being hostile and aggressive? You signed up for it. Oh that’s aside from the teen trends and protests downtown. Have at it!
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Gone are the days when units and tact teams brought in quality arrests.
Working lockup I see the garbage these coppers bring in on a daily basis.
I can see why Snelling feels that there is no need for overtime. The quality of arrest has dropped.
I see it more for the teen shenanigans over the weekend and drag racers.
So, I am assuming that, if we sign up for this, we wont even know when we will be working our days off. At least right up until the last minute. Typical CPD mismanagement. The department never met a clusterfuck that they couldnt make worse.
I would love to help you boys and girls, but Im putting in a package to retire this month.My kids are grown and out of college. Theres no reason to stay...
What about cancelled days off in patrol? I am assuming that some of this has to do with reducing the cost of involuntary OT.
I already sold my house in Chicago. I have been living out in the burbs around the airport. I never answer my phone if I see a city number, I let it go right to voicemail. My burner phone stays in my locker at work. Thats the only number that work has anyways.
No worries, came on in 94, made Lieutenant off score, retiring early next year,
Paid off assets, lived below my means, took care of myself and my family
I will sign up. My Jeep note is $1300 a month. my downtown apartment rent is $2700, I love the south Loop, who doesn’t it’s so trendy to live here. All my subscriptions to Him’s magazine, weightwatchers and Pelaton bike exercise program total $1500. So yeah I’m in.
I'm surprised the traffic missions lasted as long as they did. I will miss the OT. Can't beat 4.5 hours for getting 2 movers
It was a massive waste. Work your day off in shotspotter, even though there is no shotspotter. traffic missions were out of control. But the OT train kept coming and my Jeep has to be paid off
Sounds like a plan.
Sounds like OT to me and as an old timer I’ll take it every chance I get and sit for 8 hours.
Don’t like it don’t volunteer to do it. Want easy money volunteer to do it. The choice is yours.
I’m okay. I have no delusions of grandeur or wealth. I’m a working man, bills are paid, investment fund gets 15%, pension gets 9.5%. I don’t need any more. All this without a college degree, can’t ask for better.
This OT initiative sounds too much like work. I’ll take a hard pass on getting assigned to a ghetto district to handle a domestic over and then deal with some 16 year old shit heads with behavioral problems downtown.
PRT to be disbanded soon? Definitely looks like it’s heading that way. We need all the help possible on the watch!
The merit bosses ruptured a brain cell or two on this one.
It's the same f***ing plan around this time of year (every year) with this department. They give out OT during the warm weather so Dude Inc doesn't destroy what little is left of downtown and protect the limousine liberals that are still in this city. The clueless bosses think it's lack of manpower. {snicker} It's not. It's a lack of law and order. It's a lack of common sense. And it's a lack of a backbone on the part of our politicians, judges and our own bosses.
Remember boys and girls...during their short time in a blue uniform Snelling and the other brass never voluntarily worked one day of OT in this type of overtime program. Not one. Ask yourself why? If you do sign up for the OT give them nothing. That's what the police-hating public voted for. Let them deal with the consequences...
Definitely not out of the realm of possibilities. It's not a totally horrible idea. But it might be a logistical nightmare if not centralized.
Yeah..... nope. Im calling BS on this one. Yes i can see it being used for weekend deployments and going to 2 shifts but why have a WOL or commander if the area
or chiefs are going to run everything on a district level then? One, it doesn't take into account the people calling off work day of tour. Secondly, there is going to be way too much information to process through on a daily basis to get this done and I hate to break it to you but there's just not enough administrative personnel to handle this.......or smart enough people.
How fast will these dipshits try to pass a job onto the watch even though they signed up fully knowing they’re supposed to handle jobs?
All of you guys can have that overtime. I am about to retire and I have already sold my house in Chicago—it is a great time to sell! I have my second house and I will be ready to move right in. But please keep working so that you can fund my pension payments. Just waste your life chasing after that blood money.
^+1
Merit Sergeant though right?
Wouldnt it just make more sense to leave the OT decision in the hands of the districts? They are the ones that are short handed and know what they need. Then you dont need any out of touch bosshole downtown making decisions for the already decimated patrol ranks.
If this is true, I'm not volunteering for any of it. Will they promise to not cancell any of my weekends?
Im kind of a bare minumum OT guy already...The less time I am on duty, the less time they have to snare me into a trick bag.
Whoa you go .. lived 30 not enjoying all the worked hard for .. now you can enjoy it for maybe 10 years b4 you die .. way to go boss man. Made it by score but perfect example why the promotional process needs to be changed to being able to just memorize orderes!
So does this mean they will not be canceling my day off?
That is the only thing I give a shit about.
The city still owes all VRI money from a winning lawsuit Each day they don’t pay the cost goes up. They cheated us then and they will cheat us now
Spot on. Boneheads sign up for this not realizing how much liability they are taking on. Easy money they always say and all that...bonehead bosses try to sell like that too
Good for you. Congrats! You are doing the right thing. The last five years of a City job are terrible. My father in law worked 38 until mandatory retirement, died three years later. May God Grant all the men and women in blue many years!
You’re not early. You would be 55. If you’re not your wife has healthcare. You will have 32 years. How is that early?
Better check your investment fund…may now be a going in wrong direction. You may want to work OT now.
It’s our day off we’re just their for show
Why does the 014 district need a robbery mission team, when all the Tact teams are not at filed with manpower???? What a waste of officers...
If you’d do you job we would not be here. Yes I will call for you to come to do a paper job. We’re not here to do your job.
AI will be used to assist with this
Not if they're banging you with jobs or the sergeant telling you to go to a corner downtown to deal with those mobs of kids. Goof
Amen!
Or when a victim approaches them, tell them that they're assigned to a specific spot and can't help them lol
csa with offender 30mins before checkoff? Sounds like OT on top of OT to me 😎
“Gone are the days tact used to bring in quality arrests” Tact used to bring guys in for riding their bike on the sidewalk lol
O.T people will never handle a.district job. I saw plenty of VRI people in 011 back in the days not even get out of their cars on a 10-1 call. You can take a wild guess the the Gender of those clowns
That should be double time
What is the concern with the “teen takeovers” the boss don’t want them arrested either dies the black mayor, with the black wife and the black kids maybe because all of the teens involved in the take overs are black just like all the murders on the Westside and Southside offenders and victims are all black. Blacks don’t care why should the police?
The city loves you 30 year guys historically they die within 5 years.I don't care what color my shirt is I'm leaving at 50.If I was a funeral director I'd pass my cards out to all the coppers at ohare and midway.Early bird discount package.
I'll sign up....Daddy needs a new set of Tack-Tickle boots...and another punisher tattoo on my neck.
No, I'm good. Trump gave us plenty of warning about the tariffs. Every one had plenty of time to make adjustments to their portfolio. I'm still in and buying low.
Lived below means———dude you were making LT pay. Your credibility is shot.
Haha grown men crying about having to staying late for work. You old timers are worse then millennials and gen zers
I will continue to do the bare minimum. FK U, pay me!
You’re not early. You would be 55. If you’re not your wife has healthcare. You will have 32 years. How is that early?
4/04/2025 11:37:30 AM
The Lieutenant is not saying he/she is retiring early—— just retiring early next year. Supervisors can’t retire before May if they are under 60 years old and want retiree health insurance
Look at the overtime for all the units at HQ, it should be 0 for administrative units, but it's not. Half of HQ should go back to the districts. A lot sit around doing nothing and attend yoga and the gym while on duty.
Ha ha this Shit is about to get real.
This like anything else will be a fail. The kids willl run amok and nobody will do anything but watch. I will say it will be easy money. Go ahead bang us for a job. I’ll be a true dog and sit on it for a while until the 7 year wonder new Sarge tells me to clear.
Hey we’re working are RDO give it a rest.
Then don’t do it, I will and make the OT.
Spot on brother
Hey I call BS on this…you have no idea how it’s going to work
And you work lock up why?
No thanks. VRI on Michigan Ave or screw it. Spend the summer on the medical.
go after prt Sgt’s. Save 50k in ot per asshole
Just like swat. A do nothing unit that workout and hangout downtown. Send them to patrol!
I retired 5 years ago and am still waiting for the FLSA overtime pay from VRI and Safe City dating back to 2010 !
ALSO, Sergeants and LTs are supposed to get 45 minutes a day for each day of VRI.
The city owes MANY coppers THOUSANDS with 5% interest !!
The politicians don't even realize this disaster!
https://abc7chicago.com/post/pending-lawsuit-chicago-police-department-overtime-pay-could-worsen-citys-budget-debt-crisis-200-million/15465825/
Buying a woman’s attention is cheaper than all of that bro.
Volunteering to work rdo is much different than cancelled days off. People who volunteer should be called first for every job in the district.
Don’t shoe up then piece of shit. You are getting paid more than the watch, you should be doing more work. Otherwise don’t volunteer. I hope, I pray I’m the supervisor who gets you because you will be doing the job or you will be sparred and still do the job.
The only hiring back in districts will be for supervisors and that will be done by a bid system open to all supervisors in that area. Highest in seniority of those that volunteer will win the bid to work that OT. Same with LT’s and all of that will be coordinated by the area deputy chiefs office so no more of just offering OT around the watch for someone to pick up the shift. All will be done by the area and open to all same area supervisors. 😂 😂!! The ones who do the least jobs are granted overtime in district !!! Make sense congratulations to the management of the police department job well done !!!
That’s it that’s all. More useless Deputy Chiefs in the making.
If it’s a cluster f. It belongs to the district. Straight one paragraph case reports are no problem for a DSI assignment. Don’t shove disaster assignments accompanied by disaster paperwork onto visiting police officers.
Live within your means and say no thank you to the new DSI b-llshit. Where are your union organizers? The department need you guys to handle the summer events and the teen takeovers. As you can see your mayor doesn’t care. He has a 6% rating and he still refuses to implement a curfew in Streeterville. The genius is willing to lose every vote in the Streeterville Community.
You guys are going back and forth about who has the authority to authorize overtime, when in all actuality the new DSI has nothing to do with any of the things that were mentioned. Instead it has everything to do with making sure that things are in place so that the new First Deputy doesn’t fall flat on her face while overseeing the day to day operations. Especially since the mayor publicly announced her promotion and received backlash from the media.
Condo rent 1900
HOA fees 700
Jeep note 800
Vehicle maintenance 2000+
Auto insurance 400
Bar tab 200
Uber eats 500
You’re going to sign up.
How many first deputies do we have?
100% correct. Why the fuck should only the police care let them do dey thang
This might change people's minds about OT. This is up for the spring session.
SB0219 Sen. Mike Porfirio - Michael E. Hastings
Amends the Illinois Income Tax Act. Creates an income tax deduction for taxpayers who are law
enforcement officers in an amount equal to the amount of overtime compensation that is paid to
the taxpayer during the taxable year for the taxpayer's service as a law enforcement officer and
that is included in the taxpayer's federal adjusted gross income. Effective immediately.
U sound like a chode it’s the skin between the ass and balls and u sir are one of them.
Get back to us if passes lol
I have a brand new BMW M3 Comp that I gotta pay for. My car note is $1100 a month! CTA and CHA isnt enough. DSI will surely help hehe. Plus I do want to FBO on this thing and perhaps go a big single turbo. Car aint cheap, gotta pay to play. And yes i dont give a shit what you say, i love this car and it makes me happy. And i work OT to pay for it lol
Bar tab only 200, U must not get out much.
You can work the overtime or you can implement this life hack. Finance your house for 15 years and pay it off sooner. Drive a 4 cylinder Japanese car; it will probably last you for over 20 years. That is enough for your to retire with a pension. You do not need a $1,000 car payment, because you are not impressing anyone; we know how much money you make. After you retire, sell your house that you only made the required repairs on (no fancy upgrades) for over double of what you paid for. And sell it “as is.”
Here is a bonus professional tip; earn a useful degree from a legitimate school. It is a beautiful thing, because the city will pay for it. As of right now, some of you do not have the skills required to write a decent resume. Now, you are running with the best.
Do not let this job have an iron clad leash on you. If you let that happen, then you will be working until the mandatory retirement age and making pension payments so that the early retirees can get paid.
And the best type of revenge is living better than your yokel acquaintances, especially the dispatchers; you can have your second house in a great neighborhood acquired well before you retire.
And the lesson is over.
Signed,
The OG Cop
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