Saturday, September 20, 2025

This is an Issue Why?

Sometimes we think politicians write laws simply to provide plaintiff attorneys with reasons to sue:

  • Two fans have filed nearly identical federal lawsuits accusing the Chicago Cubs and their security contractors of secretly collecting facial recognition data from visitors at Wrigley Field without consent. The cases are expected to be consolidated.

    In complaints filed days apart in Chicago, plaintiffs Gabriel Berta and Jill Lichte allege that the Cubs, Rosemont-based Blue Star Security, and Blue Star’s parent company, Connecticut-based Protos Security, violated Illinois’ Biometric Information Privacy Act (BIPA). Both suits claim the organizations installed a sweeping surveillance network at Wrigley Field that generates and stores “faceprints” of fans and employees without disclosing the practice or obtaining the written consent that Illinois law requires.

    [...] The lawsuits cite Blue Star’s own public claims that it uses biometric scanners and facial recognition tools for “crowd control” and access restrictions at Wrigley Field. They also note that Major League Baseball’s privacy policy references biometric collection but is not shared with fans at the ballpark.

    Neither the Cubs nor their contractors provided game attendees with notice, written consent opportunities, or policies for how long biometric data would be stored or when it would be destroyed, the suits say.

Remember, the government (state, county, local) can record you without consent on the public way doing public things pretty much 24/7/365. Speed cameras, POD cameras, red light cameras, body cams, dash cams, etc. There was even an effort during the Groot years to get private cameras on businesses looped into the data gathering. 

If we were an aldercreature's niece or nephew, we wouldn't want the paper contract for government printing - we'd want the data storage contract.

But there's actually a law on the books telling a private company they can't record people who voluntarily pay money to access and see entertainment? A simple work around would seem to be to print something on the back of the tickets saying you may be recorded and then post signs at the entrances saying the same thing. Then post a public policy about the data being wiped after a few days.

Geez, next thing you know people will be complaining they got filmed at a concert being all lovey-dovey with someone who they weren't married to. 

Or worse, we'd actually see a CPS employee tucking a handgun into her fat flaps before wounding a fellow baseball aficionado with a negligent discharge.

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39 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, you think that CPS employee has a boyfriend?

She sounds fun

9/20/2025 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Worst state in the country for this law. We are #1 yet again, never good.

9/20/2025 01:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is somewhat of a concern that all these cameras everywhere is a subtle violation of the 4th Amendment. I think the real issue is where is this data stored and who has access to it and for what purpose.

9/20/2025 01:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BlueStar is a joke way better companies , Only the favorites get the good jobs , the rest can stand at some shithole for 30 a hour only .

9/20/2025 03:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Big Brother is out there and not much you can do other than stay home.

9/20/2025 03:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A direct result of slippery lawyers lining their pockets

9/20/2025 06:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cameras and license plate readers are just about everywhere. My town, south of Chicago, has a license plate reader at every entrance to the town and records and hold onto that information. It is a private company contract. Private investigators have access to private companies that travel the country recording license plate sightings. Cars are traveling down most streets recording homes and their addresses , Google is one of these private companies.

9/20/2025 07:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do we live in a police state much like the former east Germany?

9/20/2025 08:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's the end around with no problem....have printed on every ticket and the website that upon entry that this is being done so now fans can decide if they want to go to a game. Let's also not forget that any private business can do whatever they want even if you don't like it they are not bound by the same laws as public entities.

9/20/2025 08:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do they even have printed tickets anymore? Or have they all gone digital?

9/20/2025 08:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It’s an issue because these entities have money and they want some of it

9/20/2025 08:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Other previous topic: To the officer who stated he was thankful to have a light duty position and manages his pain with three different kinds of pain meds is exactly the what this shithole Police Dept. wants. I'm not sure about his situation, economically or if it was IOD but you're an IDIOT! By law, if any officer sustains a life altering injury on duty the department is obligated to give you 75% of your current salary with health insurance for your whole family and all tax free. Ten years ago I got shot in the line of duty, went back to work after being on IOD for six months thinking I was physically OK. Eventually I realized I wasnt and went back IOD and since I've been on disability. But unlike most officers, I have always lived within my means, my wife works and we have always lived comfortably. Before I went on disability, every person I talked to would say that it was an impossible task and well for me it wasn't. I've met many officers who have had life altering injuries and were afraid to file for it due to their financial situation which is understandable. So, if you can hack it for a few months or two years without pay like I did, go for it, you have more to gain than to lose. I'm glad I get to be involved 100% with my kids, fuck the department. I witnessed how many guys, hard working guys getting fucked by STUPIDVISORS and well fuck this shithole department once again.

9/20/2025 08:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Can we remind officers every day what our mayor, our ultimate boss, said about us. He said that law enforcement is a sickness. Can u officers just let that sit in everyday before u go to work. So u have a good idea on how he will treat you and how the city will back you if u get into anything serious.

9/20/2025 09:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FEDS . What do you think they do when you go and find out your Ancestry. Your DNA is being stored by government. Just recently when I log on to my Chase account through my phone it prompts me to use my finger print, nonway, you never know when you might have to take care of business without the police

9/20/2025 09:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No. WE do not.

9/20/2025 09:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Joe the Therapist said...

Some people have the need to be involved, and connected with things that are going on. Other people can sit at home, take care of their kids, watch The View and be content. I say we should just let them choose.
We should however lay out a path to health issues that arise out of employment as CPD. PTSD, Shift worker sleep disorder, chronic fatigue, Pulmonary and heart issues etc...I worked with a nice fellow that was disrespected by his ignorant coworkers for being lazy and demeaned behind his back as not playing "for the team" He tried to get a temp light duty or a posistion in call back and got denied on both. For all his efforts they put him on midnights. I wonder how many officer suicides we have had because this department scorns these people?

9/20/2025 09:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BREAKING NEWS:

https://abc7chicago.com/amp/post/chicago-police-18th-district-1863-tactical-team-officers-reassigned-problematic-pattern-traffic-stops-turned-searches/17851198/

NICE - That Rat BIA fat fuck Barz retires with a nice pension, heads over to work for the Cubs and once again these poor young clueless coppers get fucked and will soon be in a no pay status. We’re hearing a few more from same team, a few from another team, two Sgt.’s and Lt. also getting wrapped into it.

BARZ pushed for stops and arrests and promised us opportunities for merit detective and Sgt. and a chance to go to units like narcotics and gangs and we got nothing. He’s a lying unethical piece of shit and should be in prison for doing this to us. A class action suit should be brought by all the PO’s he fucked over and promised shit too and who got in trouble after PUSHING AND PUSHING for more and more activity.

I remember reading this on SCC months ago when someone leaked it that a scandal involving traffic stops with 018 Tact was coming down involving the supervisors. Well, it looks like it took a little longer but they were right.

9/20/2025 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When you got your driver's license or your passport, biometrics were used to analyze and catalogue your unique facial fingerprint. Private company software was used so your identifiers and facial fingerprint are the intellectual property of a private company. Your info can then be sold to additional private companies who have "permissible" uses like the catch all of public safety. Or private investigators or corporate security who can snoop around without warrants or legal justification. And its none of your business who has acquired your info or why it was acquired possibly to your detriment.

9/20/2025 10:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The real issue here is when you exit the privacy zone of your own abode, you have no right to privacy. Not upon the public ways, nor within any other abode not your's. When you accept permission to enter another's abode, you accept that you have only as much privacy as that abode provides, with or without specified details for such.

If you want privacy no matter where you choose to be, cover your entire body with opaque material.

9/20/2025 11:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Privacy is Dead-Get Over it by Steve Rambam. Look it up the videos on a search engine and you will be amazed the extent of digital snooping that is at the fingertips of so many. It will amaze you how your everyday existence is tracked , collated and preserved for eternity in digital form. Everybody has some dirt on them and its a shame that employers, co-workers, neighbors, minor attracted predators, dirty as hell lawyers, private investigators, government etc. have access to what you thought was private, confidential digitally immortalized information.

9/20/2025 11:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are 100% correct

9/20/2025 11:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Digital image captures absolutely violate privacy. And don't think you can cause lawyers can block laws from Congress via lobbyists most often lawyers who know how to purchase and frame legislation.

Privacy policies, privacy statements (never a legal binding privacy contract or binding non disclosure agreement) are just an illusion of privacy. Slick legal lawyers always enter language such as we may use unnamed/ambiguous third parties whom we may share your information in the course of our business practices as permitted by law somewhere in the fine print.

Deceptive language such as our promise or pledge to you or this policy/statement can be subject to additional amendments without notice is printed in micro fonts. Slippery ambiguous legal language negates any lawsuit alleging privacy violations. Judges always go back to privacy victims and demean them by you should have read their policy nonsense coverall for privacy violating corporate legal types.

Thanks to our public schools, Americans on average read and comprehend at a 6th grade level so understanding legalese is unrealistic. These digital intrusion companies know how to do violate your privacy legally keeping their profitable commercial endeavors out of the public eye at the expense of privacy for the average law abiding American. In America we are tracked excessively and thanks to Congress and the courts you cannot do a damn thing about it.

9/20/2025 11:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pay your dues. You gotta start somewhere

9/20/2025 11:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is not as easy as some po’s initially you get 75% of your pay, but get no raises until your disability pension reaches 60% of that pension. Usually that takes 7 or 8 years. Going 7 or 8 years without a raise is not easy. The exemption is if an officer receives a catastrophic injury like being paralyzed or something of that nature. There are only 10 or 15 officers in that category. Plus you have to report for yearly physicals and the city tries to put you back full duty if your disability improves. It a great benefit but not exactly what some po’s think
You are doing the right thing but having a working wife and living within your means

9/20/2025 12:37:00 PM  
Blogger SpankDaddy said...

I wanna be a Blue Star Ranger.
I wanna lead a life of danger...

9/20/2025 12:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and just look at all those whizz-bang super-duper high-definition cameras on all the cta property and buses,,, look how that practically eliminated all crime on the cta property,,,,, (hahahahaha)

9/20/2025 01:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This could be an issue stay vigilant, just a matter of time
https://www.newsmax.com/us/al-qaida-yemen-national-counterterrorism-center/2025/09/20/id/1227164/

9/20/2025 03:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think 15 dollars a beer is more of a crime

9/20/2025 04:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some of the guys on that team are mushes and constantly step into unnecessary shit.

9/20/2025 07:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blue Star loves your faceprint more than Anacott Steel

9/20/2025 10:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You sure?

9/20/2025 10:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The problem with biometrics as passwords or identifiers is they're not revocable if the database gets compromised.

Someone can use all that data to commit all manner of criminal acts and then the victim is in the unholy position of disproving something that most Juries believe to be sacrosanct proof that you were there and did whatever it was.

Tie this stuff in with the ever-evolving abilities of AI and it's truly terrifying.

* Video: Facial recognition - sure you can use it to ID recurrent troublemakers, fare jumpers, shoplifters, etc. But you can then use that data to recreate a video with remarkable accuracy of someone's face - now they're "on video" doing whatever act you've accused them of... OR, get a really good facemask made which looks just like them (order on Amazon) and go commit crimes.

* Fingerprints: LEO can use them to ID people, follow up on crime scenes. But they're also reproducible on gummy material and then you can use them to gain access to supposedly 'secure' sites, or leave behind 'evidence' at a crime scene...

* Voiceprints: all of the above... AI makes it easy to take 1 second of voice and reproduce someone...

* Palmprints, Retinal Scans... All of the above.

* DNA: Truly scary - use it to ID someone, find something about them that makes them susceptible to a particular disease or allergy. Get a relatively inexpensive piece of equipment (CRISP-R) and create something to cause instant illness or death. Use PCR to replicate enough DNA to "put them at the scene" of a crime.

None of those things can be revoked and changed like a password. And even more important, we got along for decades (century) of having sporting events and other things w/o all this biometric identifier nonsense. Get back to basics - behave at the event or get thrown out/arrested.

Consider that this is hardly the first lawsuit over this kind of violation. Facebook got fined something like $600 MILLION for violations (used your pics to auto tag people in other postings). This is something that ought to be on every Illinois company executive's RADAR as being the ultimate FAFO - no idea why these morons decided they could get away with it and not get sued...

Oh well.

9/20/2025 11:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Exactly fuck them to not make people aware of that or what happens with that data to at least be aware of that is bullshit. Lawyers will get ezy settlement. Hope I get my 3.25 buck check from it. Lol

9/21/2025 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've told everyone for the last 20 years to invest in tin foil.

9/21/2025 12:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh Boo Hoo...You Merit suck asses. Work the watch and try to get promoted the way everyone else does..take the test and actually pass.

9/21/2025 06:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Barz thinks he got away unscathed but that’s not what’s going around the water cooler at 35th St.

Like the famous line in the 1968 version of the Night of the living dead - “they’re coming to get you Barbara” only Barz’s version is “The Feds are coming to get you rat fat fuck”

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/CT2cIO3zMFU

9/21/2025 09:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FUCK the cubs, mlb and every other police-hating organization !

9/21/2025 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Um..if you have flown on an airplane in the last ..say..ten years or so..you have already participated in eye scans. Fingerprint scans. Your new drivers license has all the information the government needs to keep tabs on you. You are scanned. That's why you need it to fly. If you don't want to participate DON'T. Stay home. Go off the grid.

9/21/2025 09:33:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

Danger is no stranger to a Blue Star Ranger.

From one who knows.

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

9/21/2025 02:27:00 PM  

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