Class Action Proceeds
This is why you don't chase numbers for bosses any more:
A federal judge has allowed a major civil rights lawsuit challenging Chicago Police Department traffic stop practices to move forward on behalf of thousands of Black and Latino drivers, marking the latest chapter in a legal battle over how and why the department conducts street and vehicle stops.
In a ruling issued Monday, U.S. District Judge Mary Rowland certified a class of Black and Latino individuals who have been stopped by Chicago police since June 2021, or who may be stopped in the future. The plaintiffs are not seeking monetary damages but rather want the court to order CPD to change practices they contend disproportionately target Black and Latino motorists.
Ah yes, the "targeted" traffic stop allegation, probably hte only thing to ever come out of then-Senator Sparklefart's TSSSSSSSSSS cards.
While the ruling does not determine whether the city violated the law, Rowland’s opinion places the current dispute in the context of more than four decades of challenges to Chicago police stop practices.
The judge wrote that Black and Latino Chicagoans have repeatedly accused the department of discriminatory stop programs dating to the 1980s. According to the opinion, lawsuits from that era challenged aggressive pedestrian stops that often led to disorderly conduct arrests. In the 1990s, attention shifted to enforcement of Chicago’s gang loitering ordinance, which the U.S. Supreme Court found to be overly vague and unconstitutional.
We'll leave it to the readers to figure out what the demographics are for criminals, but the sheer volume of bad law passed by supposedly intelligent legislators has always been amazing.
But here's where Officers should be warned (again) about chasing numbers:
By 2014, Chicago police officers were stopping, questioning and sometimes frisking more than 718,000 people annually, with more than 90% of those stopped identified as Black or Latino. Following criticism from civil rights groups, an ACLU report and subsequent litigation, the number of pedestrian stops fell dramatically. By 2017, annual stops had dropped to roughly 100,000.
But while street stops plunged, traffic stops immediately skyrocketed. Beginning around 2016, Chicago police shifted toward large-scale traffic enforcement, particularly on the South and West sides. Traffic stops rose from about 83,000 in 2014 to nearly 600,000 by 2019, according to figures cited in the opinion. Plaintiffs contend the department effectively replaced widespread pedestrian stops with widespread vehicle stops, using minor traffic violations as a pretext to investigate drivers for guns, drugs and other criminal activity.
This crap about "pretextual stops" being "racist" has always been such bullshit. Every single instance is still a violation of the Law, passed by the legislature and signed by the executive branch. If they don't want it enforced for political reasons, then they have the ability and power to rescind the Law that they created, or create a list of Laws that will not be enforced by the Police if a certain racial or ethnic group violates the statute.
We can all enjoy the two-and-three-tiered justice system together!
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57 Comments:
I wish they would sue the bosses that give goofy orders. I would surely love to testify against them. I’m full of great information that defense attorneys would love. Don’t ever lie for these bosses. Tell the truth.
Proactive stops you say? Small duck on the end? Nah, I’ll pass. Keep your blue cards. I might have some old contact cards I could knock the dust off of if you’re looking for something to count Boss
Being a visionary after many moons on the job at the time “Investigatory Stops” became all the rage, I implored anyone who would listen to check the White/Caucasian box. I GUARANTEE this wouldn't an issue today…
Hmmmmmm…..2016 cpd did a shift to more traffic stops…. Could it be that at that time the department shifted to a contact card to a 2-page isr?
The victim myth persists.
Judge is a former defense attorney. Look her up and you'll understand her decision. She's has total sympathy for this cause.
Have this federal judge drive around in black and Hispanic neighborhoods for one day. Unless he is a liberal, he will understand why they get stopped so often in the first 5 minutes.
CPD is now a diverse police department. Hispanics make up more than 35% of the department along with blacks making up almost another third. Where is the bias?
how about suing the secretary of state for not teaching the blacks and browns how to drive without breaking all the traffic violations they can
How about these for catching criminals? These would be great with prevent a lawsuits and they take care of business and they smash into the offenders.!
https://www.newsmax.com/us/schools-drones-active-shooters/2026/07/29/id/1264464/
Absolutely correct on this one!
Hey clown you went to the academy right .. you took tests about laws right... your to blame just as much as the person who asked you to do it. No one ordered anyone to stop anyone.. they asked. If anything you did it to for person gain.. early ducks... extra OT... or to keep a car and start time or a spot in a "team or in a unit". So stfu and accept responsibility for screwing up the last real tool police had in fighting and preventing crime.
I used to get axed, "Why you pulling me over office, it's cause I'm black." I would reply with, " well you're in the 011th District, over 90% of the districts population is black, what's your point?" Numbers on race and traffic stops don't always tell a complete story and can be massaged. Fuck it let them run amok.
I bet if you go back t 2014 and look at the stats over at Hey Jackass you would find 90% of the shooting and murder victims were black or Latino...not that anyone in Chicago's political theater cares.
The only ...and i repeat, the only reason the term pretextual stops traffic stops came about was because POs were to lazy to write the traffic ticket for the violation they stopped the car for. Or because most POs hated traffic court so they just let the car go instead of writing the ticket(s) which lead to the racial discrimination claims by those stopped... so no one is to blame but the 2 year wonders who did anything to stay off midnights. Well now enjoy the profession you screwed up so badly.. while most of us who told you not to do it are either retiring soon or have moved on and not in patrol anymore.
Stop being proactive and you’ll avoid this type of scrutiny. Give this city the police department they want.
If the legislature rescinds these types of laws, then there is no basis or foundation for filing civil lawsuits against the city, department, and police officers.
How will the corrupt law firms and corrupt lawyers going to extort taxpayers via lawsuits, and then kick back percentages of the money to corrupt politicians and judges if these laws are rescinded?
So shouldn't police resources/officers be divided equally among the districts.
So she lets people who may be stopped in the future into the class? Well wouldn’t that be everybody then?
Will QUANTITY of active officers assigned daily to “certain areas” due to quantity of prevailing calls to 911 regarding crimes occurring be used as a statistic VERSUS other areas where the quantity of active officers assigned is DIMINISHED due to a quantitative LACK of such crime calls? That is: certain areas get 75% more POLICE PROTECTION than other certain areas, and as such, traffic stops/citations follow that trend. It’s not race- sometimes it’s just FACTS!
Interesting how these POCs are POCs for traffic stops, but become white when incarcerated. Think someone may be cooking the books?
Thanks for a great blog.
Maybe DEM politicians chased anyone (white) out of Chicago. You mean in the South, West, South West suburbs, Black/Latino don't get stopped?
Until it happens to an attorney, judge or media.
Its all about the democRatic voter base. Fuck democRats
I agree, worked traffic fairly often when the card/sticker shit started.
Somehow I managed to stop cars with drivers of each color on a regular
basis.
Perennial victims.
Disproportionately Black and Latino motorists commit the overwhelming amount of crimes
Bosses still measure an officer's worth by an officer's activity. They segment that activity into measurable stats: gun arrests, felony arrests, misdemeanor arrests, traffic citations, parking citations, anovs, and traffic stops (TSSS). It isn't the field sergeants, it isn't the district watch lieutenants, its the captains, commanders, and up who have to justify their positions. They want activity from the blueshirts so that they can look good. The field sergeants know who the good officers are, the officers they don't have to worry about when a call comes over. The field sergeants know who can and cannot do paper, who the worthless dogs are and who the workers are. You can't measure that in activity, you have to ask the field sergeants.
Every time I hear about bias in traffic stops, I think about Eric "the POS" Holder and the New Jersey Turnpike study. What did it prove? Cops were racist? No! Black people tend to speed more than whites.
AI Overview The study you are referring to is the controversial March 2002 New Jersey Turnpike Speeding Study conducted by researcher James Lange for the Attorney General's Office, which concluded that Black drivers on parts of the turnpike exceeded the speed limit at higher rates than white drivers.Key Aspects of the 2002 StudyMethodology: Researchers used radar gun cameras to photograph tens of thousands of drivers on the New Jersey Turnpike, and evaluators attempted to judge the race of the drivers.Findings on Speeding: The report stated that Black motorists were disproportionately represented among speeders—especially at higher speeds (such as 90+ mph) in certain segments, leading defenders of the data to argue that stop disparities reflected driving behavior rather than pure officer bias.The "Profiling Myth" Debate: Conservative think tanks and commentators cited the study as evidence that minority stop rates were driven by infraction rates rather than racial profiling.Nuances and Counter-ArgumentsControversy and Pushback: Civil rights groups and the U.S. Department of Justice heavily criticized the methodology, arguing it failed to create a valid baseline for overall drug-interdiction discretion or account for why minority drivers were subjected to searches at vastly higher rates after being stopped.Later Statewide Data: Subsequent comprehensive analyses of New Jersey State Police traffic stops spanning 2009 to 2021 found persistent, large racial disparities in the actual decisions to pull people over, conduct searches, and use force.
The sole responsibility lays in the hands of former Superintendent Gary McCarthy with all NYC compstat meetings. In his own words he had to "Put cops on the dots" and those dots were hot spots of crime in different parts of the city where high crime numbers were being generated. Well guess what, cops come in all colors. 98% of criminals and black and brown. We were directed to where crime was originated not based on any color. Head on a swivel boys and girls.
Next they will say that bodycwarn cameras were activated more on certain races than others. In 2035 they will use facial recognition to CR you for looking at certain people with yhe wrong face expression. In 2040 police patrol will be taken over by teen takeover offenders HAHAHAAAA.
Yet tac and PRT teams are running stop to stop. I’d say 95 percent of those stops are poor stops just for the blue card activity to turn into sarge.
Nobody ever got fired for doing nothing, give them what they want.
How do the field Sgt’s that bounce around everyday quantify an officers worth? By the time they don’t dog a job? By the number of case reports they generate without arrest? There’s a reason activity is used to judge an officers worth. It shows they have knowledge and understanding of laws,job and their abilities to use the tools provided.
You think they’re so different from you? Where do you think they learned it from? Old timers like you.
99%
As hard as I tried, I found it incredibly difficult to find a white guy to stop in 015..........IN 1985 !!!
No one is chasing numbers for bosses, never have and never will. It’s always been about the money and the perks that go with not being on the beat or behind a desk. “But I make just as much as you doing nothing”, no the fuck you don’t. I’ll compare W2s with any dog ass within a year or two north or south of me and I guarantee I made $20k-50k more than you by doing maybe 3% more in effort. Stay fetal and stay behind! Tyfys
And you’ll continue to make skittles why the rest of us feast and don’t work a full tour for not much more effort. All the while contributing nothing to the city you have to live in with the rest of us. Good work!
I live in Mt Greenwood and if I'm stopped by an Officer of color can I cry racism?
Stop it! The race card does not care about facts! You racist, fascist, homophobe, MAGA supporter! Don't you know you cannot question Libtards!
You are correct in terms of the demographics and the manufactured bias, but facts should never get in the way of the "Big Lie" narrative The media does what it's told and frames and shapes the desired outcome. We are the "Whipping Boy' for the Democrats and are they kicking our ass. They do not want us to go away. Where else will they get a scapegoat like us. Do the basics, give them nothing as they deserve nothing, collect your salary or look to other careers/Depts. In any event, grab your popcorn, get a front row seat and bear witness to another Democrat city on terminal life support.
I did the same thing, these aren’t scientific studies. They’re purely subjective and can’t be relied on for an objective analysis of racial profiling.
Then you ain’t, looking in the right spots
Facts!
I’m sure all your blue cards and ISR’s are really making a big difference! Don’t ask me to buy a ticket to your benefit down the road. Proactively police at your own risk. The boss DOES NOT have your back.
Oh pound sand 0758. If he said no and refused, he probably be wrote up and take days. Is anyone else going to go to bat for him and say what the bosses ordered? The cops in this department can’t even stand together on anything let alone throwing administration under the bus. But yeah, sure. It’s as easy as saying “I took classes at the academy and this is wrong,”. Go back to behind your Walgreens and stfu.
Other than continuing to go fetal, and not do anything then so everybody's happy, what's the other solution? Only pull over white drivers to get those numbers up?
Like it's not bad enough as it is, let's make the streets even more unsafe when there's no consequences.
I'm out and about every day on Chicago's city streets as a pedestrian. Near West Side, South Loop, near North Side. Within a 2-year period with absolutely no exaggeration, you know how many traffic stops I've seen? About 3 or 4 max.
Besides that I pretty much see virtually zero presence of CPD patrolling streets in these areas I mention. So, where is everybody at? Granted, I don't travel to the far south sides of the city to any witness police presence, do you blame me?
Forget that 'pretextual stop' bullshit. Ole boy was breaking *SOME* law and got pulled over. So now the coppers have to make sure they're going home at the end of shift, so they have to check things out because yeah, Oblamer's kids have gotten squirrely and ... well you know the rest.
Anyhoo, don't want to get pulled over? Keep the lights working, plate tags up-to-date, use the turn signals, don't have spicoli-level weed smoke blowing out the windows, don't set the sub-woofer to 11 and rattle all the windows, stop at the stop signs, and... oh who am I kidding? Dash/Body cam show that they didn't do NONE OF THAT because *raycis*...
So they got pulled over, car got searched, dipshit had more dipshit stuff in the car and got arrested.
If you don't want ole boy arrested, tell him to fucking behave because we're not doing 2-tier justice for blacks...
Tell me the last time a "worker" got promoted, its all a big club and you ain't in it
02:10:12 AM no its clueless cant think out the box generation of cops like you. No one ever had been written up for not seeing something a traffic violation. Again, this didnt come from a couple tss cards here and there.. this came from piles and piles of them for traffic stops for supposed violation occurred but no ticket was ever written. No one of going to bat for anyone who asked for the spineless to do it... think about the lawsuit if you got written up for bot producing on a quota.. you clown!
I love to see the verbiage on that write up.
But your right abouts not sticking together.
Obviously you are a dog and never been on the stand un court... my reference for take classes in the academy was in reference to your dumb comment about you loved to testify against a boss.. who still is another cop you sell out.
Here is a hint gen z... dont say anything when "being told" you have a quota, and just dont bring any... instead bring in real police work.
See "quotas" are for those in desired spots like tac and units, where now a days its everyone that cant handle midnights . probably like yourself.. where they put a requirement on what they need based on the teams purpose... the area these cards were done it was plenty busy for anyone to stay to busy to write those cards...or maybe try just writing the traffic tickets. Your excuse holds no weight clown... I wrote zero tss cards when the push started after the contact cards disaster happened, which is another clue your a gen z with no problem social skills.. because anyone who was on the job when that occurred already saw this coming and didnt write then either. I know you sold your soul to pay for your lifted jeep as you drove home to the basement of your moms house.. but dont knock the guy at Walgreens because they are still smarter than you crying late at night anonymously on a blog.
Enjoy the disaster you helped create.
08:14:12 PM
Most cops or their families dont live in areas where proactive policing is needed.
So if you knew better, you know when cops refer to not being proactive, they are referring to the ghetto.
It really sucks the clueless bosses F this up because CC and TSS cars were a great tool.. and quick to fill out. Yes we have a form of it now but still not the same or simple enough to complete without holding you down for 20 mins to complete. They are great tools for solving crimes.
That was my thought as well - I've never heard of a class action that included people who had not yet been affected by whatever the issue is. And yeah, I'm not black or Latino, but I could very well be stopped for speeding (or driving too slow - I am older) in the future.
democrat politicians, merit black supervisors assign police to high crime neighborhoods ,demand activity. nothing racist. also when blacks are driving around side streets, in 016,020 during the hours of 2000-0500hrs. they are stealing cars, catalytic converters, air bags, driving through store windows stealing ATM machines,gambling devices. Yes they should be stopped.
And traffic violations, too.
Never let facts impede the Dems "racist narrative" policies.
Yeah, how did that Compstat work out?
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