Windfall Provision Movement?
Someone forwarded us this letter (click for larger images):
Sixty-two co-sponsors, so that's almost two-thirds of the Senate. No idea what support there is in the House, but can someone explain if we weren't contributing throughout our career, are our qualifying quarters pre-CPD going to get us a sizable payout? And what effect would tens-of-thousands (perhaps hundreds of thousands) of previously ineligible government employees suddenly becoming eligible for SS benefits do to the accounting figures? The government is bankrupt as it is.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
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"The government is bankrupt as it is."
That's the plan. Destroy the dollar, then start over with CBDC,
Rostenkowsi......can not even attach a profanity to his name, BUT he has earned one.
Feel that draft?
That's the smoke they are all blowing up our ass.
A little too late. I have been retired 27 years, do we get retro?
We'll never get it, they need the money for all the illegals entering the country.
Terry Savage put out a book last year that addresses this. "Social Security Horror Stories" or something like that. She seems to be in favor of this.
If you worked CTA special, at least they did when I was there, then they collected SS from you. I know quite a few officers worked it specifically because of that. It was only straight time pay but did help to gain extra quarters paid in. And quite a few officers I knew also worked many hours at outside jobs where they also paid in to SS. There were guys in these outside job that weren't P.O's. They would qualify for full SS benefits when they were retired. But the P.O's that worked that outside job right alongside them would only get a fraction and even less depending on how much their pension was. How was this even fair! Thanks for nothing Dan "stamp thief" Rostenkowski you POS! Rot in Hell!
Whatever you get it will be drastically higher if this passes. The S.S. Estimate on their website had me at around $475 a month. (Yes I have all my quarters) the Windfall deduction brought my takehome down to $14.00 (Yes Fourteen) per month.
If it happens I will be so happy. Somehow I think they will block it. But lets be positive and pray it comes up for a vote.
And of course it all started with a crooked chicago politician . Steal stamps much rostenkoski ? Hillary bitch. I paid into ssi since I was 15 and spent half my career with the city so retired with enough ssi to pay my light bill. 🙃 country's going under anyway with all the lefty theives, pay us back ssi with interest. 35 trillion in debt that will never be paid anyway. Fuck you pay !
Pay up beeotches. Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Or should I say Pony Up!!!! Now, kees me you fool!!!!
but if the government starts giving tax dollars back to the legal American citizens who actually paid into the system, then how will they be able to give away all those same dollars to the illegals and lifelong welfare recipients who claim their drug addiction is a handicap???
I began working full time when I was 16.I didn’t assume this job until later in life. I paid into to SS for17 years. Rostenkowski essentially stole my contributions and gave them to someone else, but hey, isn’t that what socialists do?
Check your benefits statement on the SS website. As an example, if this becomes law, my reduced $720 would increase to $1300 at 62.
First off it’s not for ineligible, if you paid in you will now get what is due to you! If the government has money for millions of illegals at the cost of millions or billions, they have the money to payout to the people who paid, in instead of giving their money to the illegals! Also if the government can give money to Ukraine, billions and money to all these other countries the government can pay the citizens who paid in!
I’m pretty sure cnn viewers don’t know about this one but one of trumps plans is the eliminate taxes on social security ✊🏽✊🏽
At one point after I retired I was getting a Socisl Security check in the amount of $4.00. My original SS benedit supposed to be was around $300.00 but thanks to Dan Rostenkowski and the democrats it was $4.00.
I earned all my credits prior to being a municipal employee. Give me what I am owed! FU Rostenkowski!
Gee might have to stop giving benefits to people that have never contributed to SS especially illegal invaders Huh
The goverment is not broke, it's been crooked for years. Look up Notch Babies.
God Bless these people, I am currently one who is getting screwed by this grossly unfair act. Figures it was introduced by an Illinois AH, rostinkowski.
The only reason that they are trying to push this now is that they know that city, county and state pensions are going to go belly up on the national level a lot sooner than later. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best guys, gals and undecideds!
It’s either those of us that have put our quarters into the system or the illegals that never put a penny into it , give me what I deserve and fuck the men woman and children sponging off the backs of workers!
I put cookies in that jar before I became the police. Everyone gets a check for fake disability, mental illness or eing an illegal alien! Yet none of them made a contribution! So heah, I want my whole fucking check when I reach that age!
Sure. If we can collect social security, it’s easier for them to eliminate our city pensions.
Milwaukee cops also don’t pay into social security so the WEP kicks in. To figure out how it impacts you, create a SSA account and get your annual earnings. This website explains WEP https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10045.pdf
And this website is a calculator. https://www.ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/planner/anyPiaWepjs04.html
$14.00 a month should leave you enough for a white wine spritzer plus a 4hr nap at a certain someone’s loft…
Just looked it up. The House has 323 co-sponsors signed onto the House version of this bill. Maybe there is still hope.
Remember....it IS an election year. This way, we can all say what a swell job the demo-rats are doing for us and vote in the cackling-cocksucker.
The national fop has been bringing this up a few times every year and always ends the email with the typical begging for a donation to keep the fight going. The national fop is all smoke and mirrors and bullshit. If we had a real union we would all be getting our SS benefits which we EARNED a looooong time ago.
It makes sense so it has no chance in our government passing it....
I joined the city at 31 and had 15 years into SS before I went on city pension.I’ve been told my pension exceeds a set amount to get any part of the monthly check.I still get Medicare.And I have nothing to complain about ,is this what this article is about?
This vaguely worded letter was written by the two top political strategists of the Democratic and Republican parties. In a political sense, it is a masterfully written piece, never getting specific about any details and only talking about "fairness" and "safety". Financially, it completely avoids any indication on how this would be paid for and what effect it would have on the Social Security Fund. It is a perfect example of why people can't stand politicians.
Is Daley still collecting his 3 pensions from county, state, and city??? That's a hell of a windfall.
If you have 30 years or more of substantial earnings, the WEP formula does not take effect. I collect full SS $2231 at age 62. I worked everyday I was off from the CFD driving a truck for a company plus a small pension from the teamsters.
I didn’t get on the job until I was 29. I had all my quarters. I also worked side jobs along with CTA which continued to take SS out. I am now retired and have a new job which also takes SS out. I have always thought this is a messed up system. It’s the government stealing from the people which is normal these days. Why continue to take the money from us if we don’t get it?
They didn’t ask me if I was a government employee when they took it out of my side job check.
I guess I should thank Uncle Sugar for my $5.00 a month Social Security check. Now where is Dan buried ? I would like to visit his grave and help " water the lilies ".
This isn’t going anywhere. This happens each legislative session. So some crooked politician, in this case Brown who is in a close race, can claim pro public worker positions. Have heard this same nonsense for 12 years. Shummer will send it to committee so it can die. Just like McConnell did in the past the same happens when it’s introduced bipartisan in the house.
If passed they won’t make it retroactive. It will start after the law was passed. It also would affect the 2nd of 2 laws Rosty passes?
Before anyone take this seriously it is any election year ploy, make promises to get the vote and nothing happens afterwards. Politicians will have a million reasons to not pass it. They have had how many years to do this and now it’s put out there just before the election. You can’t be that naive
Sixty-two co-sponsors, so that's almost two-thirds of the Senate. No idea what support there is in the House, but can someone explain if we weren't contributing throughout our career, are our qualifying quarters pre-CPD going to get us a sizable payout? And what effect would tens-of-thousands (perhaps hundreds of thousands) of previously ineligible government employees suddenly becoming eligible for SS benefits do to the accounting figures? The government is bankrupt as it is.
Not before all reparations are paid in full for the future generations of victims...
Its just another bill that will not be approved by the house, and then the Democrats will hold it up during the election to tout a bipartisan bill that was shot down by Republicans just like the bad border bill, that did nothing to stop illegals from coming in.
Beware, children...
If this passes, expect ALL of your pension(s) will be classed as 'other, non-SS income' and you will get fucked for taxes on everything.
It will probably end up costing you instead of benefiting you.
Actually it is You Earn It You Keep It. It is the tax on Senior Citizen Social Security and it is the Democratic from Minnesota that is sponsoring the bill. Not Trump.
We've been fighting for this for years. National FOP continues to lobby for it. There is a Facebook page National WEP & GPO Repeal Movement. Check it out. In addition to your own SS benefit being cut, the GPO could eliminate your spouse's benefit. We have 321 co-sponsers in the House. We have the votes to pass this and finally get what we've worked for, but the leaders have to bring it to the floor.
Ah... Just divert the next 60 billion earmarked for Ukraine and fund this and pension shortfalls everywhere. Priorities should be here
It is election time silly rabbit. The G has no money for this. SS is broke. Not gonna happen
Sounds great, but I won't count on it. Been let down too many times expecting the government to make the right decision...That goes for voters too...
Who cares, social security is broke, the federal govt is broke, if you need the $1200 a month to survive don't retire yet
That would be so cool.Make us whole.
yep,,, that windfall elimination program will be stopped right after the city lifts residency for employees,,,,, so,,,, not gonna happen
Says the asshole who doesn’t have anywhere near his 40 Qs.
They're not exactly invaders. Biden invited them.
I planned on reading the whole letter that was posted but once I saw "The Honorable Chuck Schumer" on top of the letterhead, I had to vomit and I couldn't go any further
Obviously you don’t have your quarters in to collect social security so you don’t care but a lot of officers do and would love to have an extra $1200 a month or whatever it would be to spend as they please.Social Security has been broke and the federal government has been broke and the pension has been under funded forever but everyone is still getting a check so cheer up a little don’t be Mr Negative
Who cares? That’s 1200 per month! You must either be a moron, or have a gold braid pension.
Correct! I have all my quarters and now retired and working a job that takes out more SS. I want what I paid into it just like everyone else. If you haven’t put in then this is of no concern. But remember, there’s scammers in their 20s faking a disability that never worked a day that get SS now. So the people that did work and put in should get it.
Don't hold your breath lol. Every year the lodge prints in the news letter the number of co-sponsors to some bill pertaining to repealing this. Every year NOTHING HAPPENS
323 are listed as co-sponsors of this bill in the House.
That devil daley helped write the law (when he was in the legislature) that allowed him one of the pensions he is now receiving.
Who said it was retroactive? Most laws are not retroactive
When a suit is filed and you win, then the retro part comes into play. Usually not on new laws
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