It Must be Nice
It must be nice to be so beholden to labor unions that you decide you don't need an economic engine like WalMart in the city. It must be nice that your schools are so well off that you can reject over $1 million dollars a year in property and sales taxes. It must be nice to have such successful institutions like schools, libraries and museums that would otherwise benefit from the largesse that flows from a project like WalMart.
What's that? 24,500 Chicagoans applied for jobs at the new WalMart in Evergreen Park? But we thought everyone in the city had jobs? Well, good thing the City is flush with money so they don't have to close schools - what's that? A $328 million dollar deficit and they're closing four schools? But we thought the schools had money? Well, at least the museums are successful - what? Attendance is down at the museums? And the parking garages can't support their own bond issues?
Well, golly - this city must be run by incompetent fools! Why else would they turn down a guaranteed money maker like WalMart? They bring jobs, revenue, and are notoriously good neighbors to the surrounding community, regularly sponsoring team sports at schools, classroom projects and all sorts of stuff.
But they're non-union. So we hope the aldercreatures and mayor (that caved into union pressure at the expense of what could have been a large economic windfall for the city) accept their union donations, they do it with a smile.
What's that? 24,500 Chicagoans applied for jobs at the new WalMart in Evergreen Park? But we thought everyone in the city had jobs? Well, good thing the City is flush with money so they don't have to close schools - what's that? A $328 million dollar deficit and they're closing four schools? But we thought the schools had money? Well, at least the museums are successful - what? Attendance is down at the museums? And the parking garages can't support their own bond issues?
Well, golly - this city must be run by incompetent fools! Why else would they turn down a guaranteed money maker like WalMart? They bring jobs, revenue, and are notoriously good neighbors to the surrounding community, regularly sponsoring team sports at schools, classroom projects and all sorts of stuff.
But they're non-union. So we hope the aldercreatures and mayor (that caved into union pressure at the expense of what could have been a large economic windfall for the city) accept their union donations, they do it with a smile.
posted by SCC at 9:45 PM
47 Comments:
No union....you have no bedfellowing with the aldermen, who are they going to get their pay off from
Will somebody let the Iraqui's and the Palestinians know you have to vote the way that BUSH want you to.... SO they can pat themselves on the back for bring free election to their countries
I'm sorry this city and country doesn't need China Mart. Over 80% of the products they sell aern't made in the USA. They can employ all the people they want. I don't and won't step foot in any of there stores.
Must workers in the USA give up everything to keep some jagoff rich beyond all belief? We truly have gone back to the 30's. The next depression isn't far away.
Clinton, Bush, and whoever the next President is can say what they want about the economy. Americans have never worked more and gotten less in wages since the last depression.
That is what WalMart does. They come in and put all the surrounding stores out of business and then dictate terms to keep that store open. Its not how much money WalMart would bring in, because you have to factor in who they put out of business and that lost money.
Wouldn't it be nice to have a union to protect your rights? Oh, that's right SCC...YOU DO! Do you think you would be making nearly as much as you do as a Chicago Police Officer if you had no union?
Do you think that these Chinamart workers will ever have enough money to buy a decent house? Or for that matter, what about all the AMERICAN workers who lose their jobs due to you buying the cheap-ass shit, made poorly, that you buy from Chinamart?
You are shoveling a lot of shit here, SCC. Daley probably IS the piece of shit everyone on this blog thinks he is. But even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
This is that time.
You have answered your own question, union boy. Unions have destroyed the steel industry, airline industry, textiles and countless others, and now we see the beginning of the end of the auto industry in this country. And you wonder why Wallmart is doing so well, because the shit that they sell is not produced in this country, which makes it affordable to the average American. The Democratic Party has truly become the party of the non-working man both literally and figuratively.
SCREW WALMART!
Since the beginning of their chain, they have bankrupted and liquidated small towns, eliminating the local pharmacy, camera shop, grocery stores, hardware store, even putting out the eye doctors, no one cares that these American's had a job running a small business, giving the locals jobs and a sense of community. The only place you could be employed was Walmart then, with their barely above minimum wages, while they made billions selling their $3 dollar tee shirts and rugs produced by some child in India or China.
(numerous times they were busted with child labor violations). If you are going to run a non union multi billion dollar industry, then have the common decency not to exploit the human condition, pay a livable, viable wage! And guess what you would still be a billionaire! Greedy bastards, taking advantage of everyone SCREW THEM! Let them open a union shop if they want our business!
UN"Fucking"BELIEVIBLE said...
See page 10 of the Sun-Times dated 26Jan06. Article "Stroger relative charged in campaign sign incident"
In a nutshell it is one more reason NOT to do any police work in Chicago or any other "DEMOCRAT" suburb.
Briefly it relates that Vincent Jones 43 (I am assuming he's M/1- call it racial profiling) an $87,000 a year Cook County Purchasing agent, member of Cook County Recorder of Deeds Eugene Moore's political organization, and Stroger relative Roughed up a citizen in Forest Park after the guy told him NOT to put a campaign sign in his yard.
The citizen calls police, and this asswipe Jones Fought with the police when they ordered the sign taken down.He completly melts down and "Motherfucks" the police, calling them bitches, etc., and orders them to replace the sign. He then tells them before being locked up that he is politically connected, they are making a mistake, and threatens to "take care of them" he gets all their badge numbers and tells them that he is going to file a lawsuit, and enter the hospital claiming he was beaten by the police and a victim of police brutality.
THE OUTCOME: Cook County recorder of Deeds, Eugene Moore bailed out Jones putting down the 10% of the $10,000 Bond.
Jones later filed a complaint against 2 white and 1 black officer alleging police brutality and racial discrimination, just as he threatened to do! (In 2002, Jones was charged with resisting arrest and felony U.U.W.)BOTH later dropped.(No doubt, he's a nice young man, and has the qualifications and background to attain such status as a PURCHASING AGENT with cook county)
C'MON PEOPLE..THIS CRIMINAL GOOF IS MAKING MORE MONEY THEN MOST POLICE OFFICERS IN CHICAGO AND GETS AWAY WITH THIS TYPE OF THUGGISH BEHAVIOR AGAIN AND AGAIN!
Now multiply it exponentially by the number of "Democrats" in the south and westsides AND the conclusion is clear......DON'T DO A FUCKING THING ON THIS JOB, YOU'll JUST GET FUCKED BY SOME POLITICAL HACK, REVEREND, OR COMMUNITY ACTIVIST(AKA GANGBANGER)and be on the receiving end of a CR # and Lawsuit for peforming your duties!"
That said..VOTE for Forrest Claypool he'll clean up this corrupt Cook County Bull-shit!
1/26/2006 09:45:39 AM
"My sanctimonies exactly"-Homer Simpson
where's our w2 statements?
City will NOT get W-2s out until after 20 FEB..
Just heard from someone in finance. those MOTHERFUCKERS!
you can use your last paycheck stub ( if you received one! )
Taxman will knock a return right out.
The last paycheck of the year only has the totals from July when the new Chipps payroll system went into effect.
I'm a staunch Republican who happens to be pro-Union. I had two classes on Labor Relations at Loyola and it opened my eyes. Unions are only brought into a workplace voluntarily - the workers have to be so fed up getting the shaft at their jobs that they feel that they need the protection. It is no small feat to get a union into a shop. It ultimately comes down to how an employer treats its employees that determines if a union will stick or not.
Any old time Copppers will tell you how bad it was prior to getting FOP representation -
1. stand a post until relieved by a superior - if you were at that post for 14 hours, you'd only get paid for 8.
2. dump you anywhere in the city without a moments notice.
3. summarily cancel your comp time hours that you'd banked. A copper I know had 300+ hours on the books and came in one day and the radio room guy said that "per the commander, you can only carry 72 hours. Your comp bank is now 72." No questions - no recourse.
Second, WalMart is unjustly demonized. Other companies operate exactly as WalMart does - Target, Lowes, Home Depot, Cosco ... the difference? WalMart is run by a conservative Republican. Cosco, for example is run by a Democrat. Coincidence? I don't think so. Everything doesn't boil down to partisan politics but in the case of WalMart I think that the case can be made that the MSM has unfairly targeted them without asking the hard-questions of other big-box stores/franchises.
I would welcome a few WalMarts within the city limits. I know that Ace and TrueValue stores always whine when a Home Depot opens up because they feel that the big box is competitively unfair. But it isn't that simple and the convenience-type stores have their own niche to fill and a solid customer-base so they have nothing to worrry about.
Too much freedom is just enough for me.
oops CHIPPS !!!
You know what’s funny...25,000 people applied for a 8 dollar an hour job at Wal-Mart but only 2000 people apply for a 42,000 dollar starting salary job with the city of Chicago. How can 35th explain that?
Its Eugene "Gene" Moore alright? That's his legal name. 2 years and 3 weeks to go.
Federal law states u must receive your w2's by 31 Jan. I'll be the first to call when they don't have them
not that union friendly when it comes contract time with city unions police, fire etc...
But if your a TOP officer of one of these suck hole unions you are guaranteed a good paying city or county job after screwing over the rank and file while running the show.
Ask Bill Nolan and we wonder what's in store for Mark $'s Donahue
Supposedly, Finance printed up the W-2s but more than half showed ONLY half of what federal and state taxes were taken out. Some showed TWICE as much taxes. This means lots of people will have TO PAY instead of getting money back.
Also, many are not showing deferred comp payments.
We can but a beef into the federal government but what good will that do? After all this is a city whose mayor ILLEGALLY tore up a fucking airport (Meigs field).. WHAT WAS THE PENALTY??? If the city does not give the W-2s out til 20 Feb what can the Feds do?
THIS IS TOTALLY FUCKED UP!!
1st off - FOP is not a union - no strike clause = No union. Unions are built on the strike - we have a bargaining unit - still it's better than what we had back in the day --- current guys - better than the last- yet both has some female PO screening calls telling u how it is - when u call the 'unit" you'd think u get to talk to some of the people u voted for - not! what happened to all the interest we were supposed to get on our retro's ?? same ol story - they take a over a buck a check out of our checks to go to a police benefit? Times that by 10-12 thousand and thats a lot of money??? where does it go? And when did i sign up? and can I back out???
The following Topic 154 is is from the IRS website. The city's deadline is 31 January 2006. I would not trust your final 2005 pay stub(The amounts on mine appear understated) to file income tax. The boys at the FOP should get a heads up on this. I know I will loose interest if I can't file my taxes on time. I will be calling the IRS on 01 February 2006.
Topic 154 - Forms W-2 and Form 1099–R (What to Do if Not Received)
In general, employers/payers must provide employees with Form W-2 (PDF), Wage and Tax Statement; Form 1099-R (PDF), Distributions From Pensions, Annuities, Retirements or Profit-Sharing Plans, IRA's, Insurance Contracts; Form 1099-INT (PDF), Interest Income, or Form 1099-MISC (PDF), Miscellaneous Income, by January 31 of the current year. Employers/payers have the option of making the information available on a website. However, if you leave your employer before the end of the calendar year, and request your Form W-2 (PDF) or Form 1099-R (PDF) at that time, your employer must provide your form within 30 days of your request. If you do not receive Form W–2 or Form 1099–R, you still must file your return on time.
Therefore, after January 31 of the current year, if you have not received Form W–2 or Form 1099–R, or received an incorrect form or information, contact your employer/payer. You may not have received your form because of an incorrect or incomplete address. Be sure to verify the address used if already mailed. If the form was returned to your employer/payer because of an incorrect address, or never mailed, and the employer/payer intends to issue or re-mail, allow a reasonable amount of time for this action to occur before calling the IRS for help.
If you have not received your Form(s) W-2 by early February the IRS will help you obtain the missing forms. Call 1–800–829–1040. Be prepared to provide your name, address (including zip code), phone number, Social Security Number, and dates of employment and the name, address (including zip code), and phone number of the employer/payer.
The IRS will send the employer/payer a Form 4598, Form W-2, 1098 or 1099 Not Received, Incorrect, or Lost. You will receive a copy, along with Form 4852 (PDF), Substitute for Form W–2 or Form 1099–R, and a Form 1040X (PDF), Amended U.S. Individual Income Tax Return. If you do not receive the Form W-2 or Form 1099–R in sufficient time to file timely, you may file using Form 4852.
If you later receive a Form W-2 or Form 1099–R, after your return is filed using substitute information, and the information differs from the information reported on your return, you must file an amended return. For more information on amending your return, refer to Topic 308.
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Thanks for the information above about calling the IRS if we don't get our W-2's...SCC you should post that number on 01 Feb so everyone can call. Maybe since nobody at Finance, Comptroller, FOP, PBPA, or the Hall will listen we can bring in the FEDS to look at this dumbsh*t.
I am advising that nobody trust their last check stub. It will only have half of your pay from the time the Comptroller's office took over screwing up our pay.
Since this thread has deviated to the subject of pay...I am a Sergeant and just recived my little letter telling me they screwed up my quarterly check which I already knew. According to this letter I won't receive any quarterly checks for the rest of the year because they are going to take it out of my next two checks but since they paid me 3x my regular quarterly I still owe them money after the next two checks.
Now I know people will say "you got paid at least" but like everyone else thoese extra checks are nice to receive. They always come at a good time. Why oh Why won't the PBPA or FOP file a lawsuit or a grievance against the city for incompetance in the Comptrollers office. We are promised to get paid for working that is our contract. These people are screwing up with no recourse. We get no interest, no bonus, no getting your pizza free if it doesn't get to you in 30 minutes or less...
I challenge someone from FOP or PBPA to actually answer these questions: Why are we not holding these people to task for their screwups? They will take money from us in a heartbeat for our screwups. Why are we not getting compensated because they screwed up? We get no interest, no points, no nothing. In the old days our connections (in the outfit) would be finding these people and explaining how the world works to them. I have had enough....I am fed up with inmates running the asylum.
I apologize for my rant but I needed to vent but I am sure there are others out there who feel like I do. Thank You SCC for giving me a place to scream.
Yo....GOOF FOP is not a union. Its an army of daley ass kissers that bargain for shit.
That said..VOTE for Forrest Claypool he'll clean up this corrupt Cook County Bull-shit!
I sya... RUN FOREST RUN!
Why oh Why won't the PBPA or FOP file a lawsuit or a grievance against the city for incompetance in the Comptrollers office.
Because Markie boy has cherry's for balls.
Hey, its the sean, wane and friends show the last few posts!
Anonymous said...
Yo....GOOF FOP is not a union. Its an army of daley ass kissers that bargain for shit.
1/27/2006 06:16:13 AM
No, its not just Shawn, Wayne, and friends last posts. Who ever it was above told the truth and nothing but the truth. This current administration is usless. File a lawsuit? Are you kidding? They need the money for their pay increases and to grease the palms of politicians.....End of story!
Where they wanted to put the Walmart in the city was in a low-income neighborhood. Who are they going to put out of business there? Koreans and Arabs who do not hold citizenship here and sell their goods at inflated prices! Good riddance to them, I say. What do those stores contribute to the community? Those stores are also usually staffed with others who are not citizens either.
A previous poster brought up True Value and Ace. Both of those stores sell their goods at inflated prices. I welcome a store that keeps a smaller profit margin per product and makes it up by selling volume. That is good for the consumer. We as middle class individuals need stores like this. Why shop at Jewel or Dominicks when there is a Cub Foods or a Food For Less nearby? Do you enjoy paying more for the same product? If so, continue to do so.
This is supposed to be a capitalistic society we live in. Supply and demand should set the market. Instead, we have government butting in, not allowing a business in town because they don't like a non-union shop (the same people that fight our unions every contract time). We have governments telling builders that they have to set aside property for "affordable housing". If you can't afford to live there, too damn bad! There are other place to live. Sounds like baby-steps toward communism to me. Lefty, you can be quite proud of "your gorvernment".
In the last 5 -10 years, all within 5 miles of each other, 2 Home Depots, a Menards and a Lowes have opened in Niles and Skokie within walking distance of the northwest Chicago border.
There are still a few Ace Hardwares that are surviving, but ALL of the independant, mom and pop hardware/ paint stores in the area are now gone. It sucks, but I have to admit that I have gone to the big box stores to save anywhere from $5 to $15 on a gallon of paint, compared to the mom and pop stores.
You don't think Best Buy hasn't killed off more than a few mom and pop shops, or local TV repairmen?
Capitalisim at it's finest, actually. Only the strong survive, might = right, yadda yadda yadda...
And to the people that complain about Wal-Mart's sale of Chinese made goods: seriously, where would you find clothing that ISN'T made outside the US? Unless you are able to afford designer label ( even then, most is non-US made ), where do you guys shop? Hell, even my Levi's are now made in China! The Harley Davidison boots I have on? China!!! I'd bet the Hanes socks and underwear I'm wearing were made outside of the US. And I DON'T EVEN SHOP AT WAL-MART!
Walmart (WMT) is down .30 for the day, at 46.02. It's off it's 52-week high of 53.72.
Unless you own 1000's of shares of Walmart you are a goof for supporting something that does not care about you.
If you want to hear something other than the corporate media check out:
The Walmart Movie
I watched the news clip on the Walmart store. They lined up all the new workers and they were all happy and chanting WALMART! WALMART!
I did not see one white face. Does Walmart only hire black people or did they discriminate against whitie?
Second, WalMart is unjustly demonized. Other companies operate exactly as WalMart does - Target, Lowes, Home Depot, Cosco ... the difference? WalMart is run by a conservative Republican. Cosco, for example is run by a Democrat. Coincidence? I don't think so.
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Boy am I courious here. What Democrat runs Costco?
Thank God for Jane Byrne!!! She gave the police collective bargaining.
To 10:52
Here's the Boston Globe story calling out Jim Sinegal (CostCo CEO) as a Bush-hating, DNC contributor.
That is why CostCo and other pro-DNC bigboxes are getting a pass by the MSM.
From the article - "Costco chief executive Jim Sinegal, 68, is a Democrat who says Bush's $1.7 trillion in tax cuts unfairly benefit the wealthy. He opposed the Iraq war and supports Democratic Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts for president."
Jim Sinegal and Jeff Brotman run Costco Corporation. They are BIG name democratic contributors. Stats for the last political cycle show them contributing over $300,000 to the democratic national party.
Like the Chris Rock skit "Grand opening, a week later "Grand closing!!" Wal-Mart is about to have thier heads handed to them, can anyone say "Get up at noon, get ta Wal-Marts, start shopliftin'
More people want to push carts than be the police, how sad! Are you listening Lil' Richie, you egomaniacal FUCK HEAD??? Applications down 90% since '93......Pathetic!
No one wants to live in the shit hole you created. End residency now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
End the college requirements and you'll see applications triple ( or more ) overnight for this job. End of story.
I would bet money on the fact that those 24,000+ people that applied at Wal-Mart are not college grads.
Problem is that if the City drops the college requirement for new hires, they might get stuck paying for them to get that education in the long run.
I think that, in order to apply for the position of police officer, all such applicants should have a masters degree or better. Maybe then they'd be able to write a readable report. As it stands now, finding a report written in correct English with proper grammer, spelling, tense and punctuation is an impossibility.
Master the English language or work at WalMart!
WalMart is the number one store in the world for a reason. They gainfully employ people, pump millions into the local economy and give consumers great deals. WAY TO GO CITY COUNCIL!!! JACKASSES!!
"...Sixty-seven percent of Wal-Mart's stores are in the 30 states that voted for Bush and Cheney in 2000, according to a comparison of store-location figures in the Wal-Mart 2003 annual report and election results. Costco's stores are mostly located on either coast, with 208 of its 321 stores in the higher-wage, more union-friendly 20 states that voted for Democrat Al Gore in 2000.
Sinegal makes no apologies for Costco's policies, saying higher wages reduce employee turnover, which lowers training costs. ''I'm not a social engineer," he said in an interview. ''Paying good wages is simply good business."
...Red State, Blue State MY ASS... WE'RE ALL PURPLE (as in bruised- THE CORPORATION is kicking our asses royally!) But frankly they are both crappy jobs... just that CostCo shares the wealth a bit more with it's wage slaves, that's all... Welcome to the United Corporations of the World... we're done- put a fork in us (the common man...!)) - -ydahS ;-P
Anonymous said...
Federal law states u must receive your w2's by 31 Jan. I'll be the first to call when they don't have them
1/27/2006 12:39:23 AM
I thought we usually got them on the 01feb???? i'll be calling the the G too.
put the list up; where are the new dicks going?
SCC said...
Jim Sinegal and Jeff Brotman run Costco Corporation. They are BIG name democratic contributors. Stats for the last political cycle show them contributing over $300,000 to the democratic national party.
1/27/2006 11:40:33 AM
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This is bad but all the millions that other weathy company presidents that donate to Bush are ok, right, SCC?
The leftists always talk about the money from corporations given to Bush. However, they alway omit the PAC money given to the leftist and socialist candidates, by the unions, in most cases against the wishes of their members. Add up the costs from the NEA Afl, Service Workers, etc. its in the billions.
That's right, 8:48. But the fascists always omit the bribes they take from Jack Abramoff, so there you go again.
Oh, and yes: they also omit all the money of OURS that they spend in exchange for those bribes.
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