Tuesday, January 10, 2006

Official Homicide Count

According to the Sun-Times, Chicago had 446 homicides total for the year 2005. That's DOWN from 448 in 2004. We suppose a drop is a drop no matter the cause. We only wonder if it may have been even lower if the City wasn't short 1,000 officers in the Districts?

And now we are going to be concentrating on Property Crimes. Any suggestions? We have a few. Bring back a few Burglary mission teams. Staff them with experienced burglary people. If you have to, hire back a few of the old Burglary dicks or PO's and have them teach some of the younger guys. The "Brain-Drain" on this department in the past decade is incredibly huge. We lost so much experience, it's no wonder that clearance rates are so poor. Up the number of ET's, train them up right and supply them with the equipment necessary to do their jobs.

Burglars aren't one-job guys. They have hundreds, if not thousands of crimes in their backgrounds. Nail them on a few and we'll guarantee the property crime numbers drop as fast as homicide numbers did a few years ago.


Anonymous SIR DONK said...


1/10/2006 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2nd! Two is more than one!!

1/10/2006 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3rd, fuck you both, And I say bring back those burglary teams.

1/10/2006 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree, scc: bolster the manpower for the burglary mission teams, provide the et's with the right equipment; but then make sure that the dept processes the evidence available (prints, etc.) QUICKLY. And how about the State's Attorney's ofice, and their willingness/unwilllingness to charge someone with burglary (i.e., their "conviction rate"). How many stotries are there about asa's who won't charge, even in the face of the evidence?

1/10/2006 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your idea makes sense but it wont happen for one reason, it requires additional MANPOWER/PERSONNEL.

1/10/2006 01:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

{720ILCS5/9-1} I Had The 011th District In The Pool, I Lost To The 007th District Only By About 7 Minutes Or So I Hear!@#$%. Way To Go BS. You Took My $$$ Mr.Donut.

1/10/2006 01:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the "brain drain": very accurate, a product of the hiring patterns of the '70's and '80's (large numbers of people hired at a time, large numbers of people reaching retirement age at the same time). Another problem: manpower....there are simply not enough detectives to handle the caseloads. Another problem: dept. leadership is either ineffective or inexperienced (a result of politics (race, gender, clout, etc.), and is unable to solve the problem. There are two people who are ultimately responsible for the situation: 1) the Mayor; 2) the Supt....period

1/10/2006 01:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess one question could be: if this was your dept. (insert your name here).....would you run it the way it was currently being run, have the exempt members in place that are here now, have the cops assigned where they are now (numbers, units, etc.)?

1/10/2006 01:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3rd, fuck you both, And I say bring back those burglary teams.

1/10/2006 12:35:54 AM


1/10/2006 03:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the use of district law enforcement personnel to perform the duties of detectives is a short time high for those individuals who are able to get out of the beat car. Burglary mission teams, robbery mission teams of pos delays and eliminates the need for more detectives there is no out of grade pay for pos doing detective duties. Get smart for the long term refuse to work against yourself and a pay raise to detective by allowing the city to allow the number of detectives to continually decrease and drain the districts of manpower thus allowing for the denial of time due.

1/10/2006 04:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of fighting burglaries, how many people here have NOT heard stories about reverse-fencing operations being shut down prematurely for unknown or known and nefarious reasons?

You want to clear up patterns and snatch em up in batches, set up as a buyer.

1/10/2006 08:07:00 AM  
Blogger Rue St. Michel said...

Who's doing the reverse-fencing operations? Didn't know that the department would be that proactive in addressing property crimes. Sounds like a good idea - not surprised that it got shut down...must have stepped on some toes.

1/10/2006 10:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 1:14:39 am.In regards to the evidence gathered up by the ET's and Crime Lab,once its packaged and sent to the appropiate lab,it sits there until the assigned Det requests it to be worked up.And since the state lab handles "ALL" of the evidence in regards to crimes against persons e.g.batteries,rapes,murders etc.there is a "HUGE" backlog on processing the evidence,unless its a real heater case.It's just the way the system works,their overwhelmed with the number of items turned in.

1/10/2006 12:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The reverse sting is a great idea except your going to get very few felonies out of this. The charge will end up being theft of lost or mislaid property. The old innocent until proven guilty comes into play. No prints in the house or garage of the burglary and the lack of detectives to work a case kills this. As an earlier blogger said. Without everybody working together and alot more manpower it will go nowhere.

Its a great idea to crack down on property crime but when money becomes a factor you can forget it.

1/10/2006 03:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Little AL say;

Fat man dont care about property crime, district commanders make review reclassify to cdtp from burg, attempt CTTV from auto theft, all the way down the line. Biggest joke is identity theft. We are now ordered to clear the job, because the city residents really arent the victims, the bank and credit card companies are. They be out of state, there fore the crime be cleared, right Big boobs? Chief of dickless. What a joke no auto theft unit, no cartage theft unit, even though the city has more railroads and trucking terminals than any other city. N/Y and LA have task forces, state,suburburban and railroad police. More stolen cars are shipped from Chicago over seas in trailer containers because we have no cops at the ports. DIDNT homeland security bring that to fat boys attention. Every other port or terminal has a dick who randomly checks the vin numbers.
But yet we have patronage dicks(no bid unit) playing on the internet trying to entrap people in cyber crimes. We got a cold case squad(no bid)(fantasy dicks- alcoholics) that just submits old DNA and fat ass makes it look like their super slueths. let the district have p/os play dick. On a real department each district would have dicks assigned to the station to follow up immediately, but that works in New York, so we cant do that here.

1/10/2006 07:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a reverse sting does better than anything is (just like wiring all pawn shops to identify every person who comes in and every car that parks in the lot) it gets people into the system. It provides leads. It lets us know who are the "usual suspects" that we might not otherwise know about if they are not yet in the system.

I'm not so worried about the direct charges that might result such as possessing or receiving stolen property. In a better world, I just want a list of the fencers that maybe, just maybe, our property crimes dicks should have on file.

1/10/2006 07:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tru is making the difference in the city's homicide rates...TRU is the real shit!!

1/10/2006 08:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No whoever works bt 1631 is the shit!!!!!

1/10/2006 08:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

when they making Dicks again and how many ?

1/11/2006 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Uh, isn't there 50 of tem in school?

1/11/2006 01:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

uh actually 51 goof,

1/11/2006 09:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sorry 51 os TEM are int he academy

1/11/2006 09:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought the 51st guy was double dipping as he is already in the sergeant's pre training also?

1/11/2006 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes he is, so only 50 det's.

1/11/2006 10:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How hell did that happen?

1/11/2006 08:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you think the department played any role in the homicide reduction, your playing with your penis. Paramedics, better doctors, and technology take all the kudos here

1/11/2006 11:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


1/12/2006 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tactics and demographics do matter. You guys who say policing has no effects usually come across as the ones trying to explain why society should expect nothing of us, despite the price tag.

If tactics don't have effects, than explain the correlation between Bratton and crime reduction. And then explain why Chicago's and LA's reductions were years behind Boston and NYC. You think Boston and NYC got some kinda voodoo homicide-victim-revival thingamajiggy 5 or 10 years before Chicago and LA?

Keep the blinders on pal. Keep explaining why and how you can't make a difference, and you are destined to eat a gun thinking that life itself was futile. If nothing else, please try and find one old person or kid to be nice to every day.

1/12/2006 11:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

51st guy double dipping or not is off the list !!! ... 1458 more and im a Detective !

1/13/2006 09:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


1/15/2006 04:58:00 PM  

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