Saturday, January 07, 2006

The Subtle Bias

Whenever we talk about "Media Bias," some people think we mean "Air America" or NPR type garbage where they constantly scream at the top of their lungs that Bush is to blame for this and that and Republicans are evil, etc. But the bias is insidious in numerous other ways, many times unrecognizable. And it tries to shape your views and the views of others in indirect ways. Take this statement from a recent Fran Spielman article titled "Mayor Takes Another Shot at Gun-Control":
  • But Daley thinks that at the very least, there's a good chance that a statewide ban on assault weapons will pass this spring. Since the federal ban on assault weapons expired in 2004, Chicago Police officers have seized 519 assault weapons.
The entire article is a fluff piece on the mayor's crusade against guns for the past 17 years and how he thinks the tide is turning against the NRA. And a typical civilian will think, "Wow, what a great mayor. He hates guns because guns cause so much pain. And look at all those assault weapons the police have taken off the streets. We're safer because of the mayor. Let's build him a statue." We won't even go into the skipped studies that PROVE gun ownership reduces crime. Did you notice the last sentence?
  • Since the federal ban on assault weapons expired in 2004, Chicago Police officers have seized 519 assault weapons.
519 might seem like a lot of guns. In 2004, we took 10,000+ off the streets. In 2003, we took 10,000+ off the streets. In fact, if you get a hold of the numbers, we'll bet we regularly took 10,000+ a year off the streets. How many were "assault weapons?" As the definition of "assault weapon" is so vague as to be meaningless, we'd still bet each year we took 519 at a minimum. See what we mean? Fran has no context to her statement comparing assault weapons to any other type of confiscated weapons. Her bias is the mayor's bias against ALL weapons and no one calls them on it. This is typical slipshod reporting and typical media bias. And almost no one ever catches them at it or recognizes it for what it is. But we do.

77 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Become a member...if yo want...

https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp

1/07/2006 02:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

they can have my gun when they pry it from my cold dead fingers.

1/07/2006 02:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ok 2:46, so let us get this strait...Your gun is more important than your life? "THEY can have it when THEY pry it out of your dead fingers...when your dead and cold?" So that being said, we: A) assume you would rather be dead before THEY take your gun from you. Well, were cops here, not analists, but I'm pretty sure your gun is no good to you if your already dead.
B)THEY, who would take it from you are the CPD. Sorry all, but that's what he said. So if you want a fight let's go!
C) Your the poor slob that everyone picked on in high school, and now you got a gun (sound's like a Captains list, sorry, but its true...for the most part).
D) If you had at bit of self identity, a HALF WAY decent wife, and a medium pair of ball's you wouldn't give a shite about that gun. Especially when your already dead and cold.
P.S. we'd pry it from your hand's, put in an envelope, send it to the lab, analize it, and after litigation...melt it down to a 2 pound piece of pourous ore, and then dispose of it into the ground. Hum...

1/07/2006 03:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WE DO NOT NEED GUNS!!!!

Use your heads!! All you need are your pennyloafers. Just take your pennyloafer and hit the bad guy with it and call 911 on your cellphone.

You are all a bunch of right-wing Nazis!!!! Bruts!

1/07/2006 03:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mike, is that you!!! Holy shite! you read this crap too!!

1/07/2006 04:01:00 AM  
Anonymous leftisthebest said...

That's right M, assault weapons for everyone. What possible reason would a citizen need for an assault weapon? Do not tell me target shooting or combat competitions, that's baloney!

We know Spielman lets Daley get away with murder. Yet, to whom is this media "bias" toward? Once again, dear M, you are letting your imignation run wild and seeing a liberal under every bed.

1/07/2006 04:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've been a copper over 22 years. I've been a gun owner for 30 years. I'll retire one day soon, but I'll still be gun owner. Those who oppose the right to keep and bear arms won't listen to reason, so I won't bother trying to convince them otherwise. They're apologists for the assholes who prey upon the innocents. They can go fuck themselves.

I'm a life membe of the NRA, and I'm a Chicago Police Officer. Is that a contradition? NO, it's not. I took an oath to support and defend the constitution, and that includes the second amendment.

I wonder if his highness King Richard II would hold his high and mighty opinion if he had not had armed bodyguards his ENTIRE LIFE!!

If he had to be joe citizen, and didn't have police watching his back every second, would he still hold his communist opinion?

"from my cold dead hands" is me.

I'm the NRA.

Be safe

1/07/2006 04:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Yogi said...

The right of the people to arm bears shall not be infringed!

1/07/2006 05:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Daley blows said...

It's time for the FOP with the rank and file membership to support the idea of Right To Carry as in the rest of the country. Let Daley eat that one!

1/07/2006 08:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't hold your breath on that one, poster!

1/07/2006 08:28:00 AM  
Blogger Crimefile said...

The Illinois, Unlawful Use of a Weapon law (UUW) needs to be renamed for what it really is: THE MUGGER PROTECTION ACT.

The only thing that law ever did was provide safe working condition for robbers, rapists and killers.

Gun rights-hating Liberals feel so much better with gun prohibitions that only the law abiding obey.

1/07/2006 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Malcolm X's liitle brother said...

Yo SCC, the only media that controls the radio is conservatives. The Rushs and all the rest whose word you preach as bible. They are what is wrong with this country.

Also, no one answered the question of "lefty." Why does a law abiding citizen need assault weapons? I bet most of those kind of weapons in this country are owned ILLEGALLY by white folks.

1/07/2006 09:26:00 AM  
Anonymous right is right said...

Lefty,

You have worked in the ghetto in the past on New Years Eve. It sounds like a war zone. Compare that to our neighborhood. No shooting. I am happy to have weapons in the house to defend myself and family against infringement if they decide to come west and commit crimes. I like to think of my guns as an insurance policy. My children will be taugh proper weapons discipline and safety measures.
I won't take things as far as the NRA, but they make a lot of good points. I am also for concealed carry. The bad guys already carry, so why shouldn't the good citizens have a chance to defend themselves? Wouldn't it be great to come on the scene and have the robber bleeding out as the victim stands over him? It would save the taxpayers loads of cash and justice would be swift!

1/07/2006 09:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11:08
Well Said !!!!!!!!!!!

1/07/2006 09:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ASSAULT WEAPONS??? You can't hunt with assault weapons. Why is it you gun freaks all want to be rambo? You probably got the camo clothes, the boonie hats, and army boots. If you still want to play army, like the little boys, then go join up! I hope some Iraqi puts a bullet thru your silly ass then.

1/07/2006 09:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ok 09:26 They are used illegally all over the city, seeing that under the dictatorship we live under infringes on the rights of the people that reside here. As far as the race that uses them illegally under Illinois felony statutes, I guess you would be shocked that most are 007th district, 011th district and east side of the 008th district residents. If you knew your laws you would see that 98% of the country does not have the same laws as Illinois. And crimefile is right, the statute is a muggers dream. If everyone that wasn't a convicted felon (so minus Englewood) and could carry firearms, Englewood residents would probably think twice about coming to places like 022 016 and 018 to rob, plunder, and pillage. That's just a thought though.

1/07/2006 09:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only in America do people need guns! This country is the dumping ground of the world! Its all full of riff-raff. American TV glorifies the use of guns! You gun freaks are all rambo-wantabees, In poland we do not have a gun problem. Maybe its our hard working lifestyle.

1/07/2006 09:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BEARS TICKETS FOR GUNS! Lets see how many of you drop your guns for these.

1/07/2006 09:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Numbers on Bush are out and down.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20060106/ap_on_go_co/
politics_poll_method_1

The Associated Press-Ipsos poll

(Early December results are in parentheses)

1. Generally speaking, would you say things in this country are heading in the right direction, or are they off on the wrong track?

_Right direction, 32 percent (33)

_Wrong track, 65 percent (64)

_Not sure, 3 percent (3)

2. Overall, do you approve, disapprove or have mixed feelings about the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?

_Approve, 40 percent (42)

_Disapprove, 59 percent (57)

_Mixed feelings, 1 percent (1)

6. When it comes to handling the situation in Iraq, do you approve or disapprove or have mixed feelings about the way George W. Bush is handling that issue?

_Approve, 39 percent (41)

_Disapprove, 58 percent (58)

_Mixed feelings, 2 percent (1)

_Not sure, X percent (X)

1/07/2006 10:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Richie hates the police. He treats us as a necessary evil.

He puts on this gun crusade to appease the liberals that he is a good guy. Frannie "yes mayor" Spielman should be his media spokesperson instead of working for the Sun Times. It just amazes me how screwed up the media is to allow crap articles like this to go out. It is not just the Sun Times, they all suck.

Just for the record, I have no opinion on 1631, TRU, or SOS.

1/07/2006 10:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with an earlier blogger. The NRA is a little overboard but they need to be. Its the old give an inch take a mile theory I believe in the right to bear arms. I don't always carry my weapon off duty, but thats my choice. People who don't believe in concealed carry have an unrational fear of getting shot because you cut somebody off in traffic. I've never heard of that happening in a concealed carry state.

Have the naysayers work 1 weekend in 018,019, or 023 in the summer and it will change their minds. Each dist having 10 armed robberies for the weekend with 2 male usuals as the offenders.

As another blogger said. One day I will go to a scene of shots fired and it will be duke shot dead when he stuck a gun in somebodys face who was armed and defeneded himself. Justice will be served.

1/07/2006 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THATS GREAT WE TOOK 500 SOME ODD GUNS OFF THE STREET. YAAAAAAAAA US!!!!!!!!!!!! How about Sir Daley talk to the judges! What are they doing about guns and crime.

1/07/2006 10:41:00 AM  
Anonymous sickofyourcrap said...

Crimefile said...
The Illinois, Unlawful Use of a Weapon law (UUW) needs to be renamed for what it really is: THE MUGGER PROTECTION ACT.

The only thing that law ever did was provide safe working condition for robbers, rapists and killers.

Gun rights-hating Liberals feel so much better with gun prohibitions that only the law abiding obey.

1/07/2006 08:47:34 AM

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Don't for get attempted Copper kilers like Howard Morgan.

Crimefile, you are the THE worst hypocrite on this blog. Just the other post you were theorizing that Howard Morgan survived an assassination attempt by CPD AFTER Morgan put bullets in the the officers. Shut up. I'm sick of your crappy opinions. One minute you are for the bad guy now you are trying to puff your chest out. Go back to AZ or where ever you retired to and keep investigating for the criminal defence teams. I bet your soul went for cheap.

1/07/2006 10:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok all those guns taken off the street. How many of those offenders are in prison right now......How many are turn in's or found property. It's all a numbers game joke. meanwhile the law abiding citizen is left defenseless in a city of thugs. Run Forest run as fast as you can or Dump Daly and the liberal democratic machine before it's too late.

1/07/2006 11:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I own assault weapons because I CAN! When you outlaw guns only outlaws will have them.

1/07/2006 11:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

15% of those guns taken off the street were at one time owned by police officers. Since it seems that police officers cannot hold on to their own guns maybe they should be kept at the station. Also they should be held liable for the crmes comitted by the weapons.

1/07/2006 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why guns?? Can't you just find a safer hobby to play? Like go build model cars or play a sport.

1/07/2006 12:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please cite your source for the 15% number?

1/07/2006 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great idea! When BooBoo comes crawling through my kid's window looking to support his habit "by any means necessary", I'll whack him over the head with a 9" plastic replica ot a 63' Vette.

1/07/2006 12:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
15% of those guns taken off the street were at one time owned by police officers. Since it seems that police officers


Who is this fucking moron? Can we find him so someone can give him/her/she-male the bitch slap it deserves!

In poland we do not have a gun problem. Maybe its our hard working lifestyle.

1/07/2006 09:53:15 AM

Well, asswipe, you figured out how to get to our little "land of milk and honey". And it is apparent that you came here for a reason. If you want to bitch about it, just re-trace your little steps back to where you came and bring the whiny little fuck who I pointed out above with your ass! In case you forgot your history, Poland faught off the Germans the longest during WW II, and how/why was that done? O.K., Youre right, they used slingshots! You dont like it here, you could learn how to "goose step" like the rest of your family did a few decades ago.

1/07/2006 12:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A couple of things come to mind. One, if we take the numbers thrown out by Fran and SCC as fact (and they seem fair) 519 of 10,000+ is roughly 5% (I wasn't a math major in college but I think that's accurate). So 5% of the guns seized are "assault weapons". Good lord we better ban those things....They're everywhere.
Secondly, last I heard there was a Cook County assault weapons ban. So it isn't like King Richie is exactly blazing a new trail here.
And lastly the ban is a good idea because it will work to lower the murder rate. I mean Chicago has had a ban on handguns for some time now and look...It's working splendidly. None of these killers can buy or own a handgun in Chicago. Guess they found a way to throw bullets at each other at 1000+ ft/s. Just my two "sense".

1/07/2006 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In poland we do not have a gun problem. Maybe its our hard working lifestyle.

1/07/2006 09:53:15 AM

Actually i POLAND they can't find the triggers

1/07/2006 12:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Subtle BIAS works both sides

NeoCon Fox Reporter: Could you tell our audience if The Iraqui Army is now capabale of functioning independently?

Embedded Reporter: Certainly they are now at a point of running their own operations, BUT THEY STILL MUST HAVE AMERICAN TROOPS TO BACK THEM UP!!

NeoCon Reporter: The increase in violence in Iraqui is attributed to the desperation of the insurgents?

Embedded Reporter: There is an esculation of offensive actions being taken by the insurgents like groups actually these are more likely Sunni vs Shite groups targeting one another.

NeoCon: Tom Delay actions were expected??????

Duh!!!! Hannity,Rush,Drudge,O'Reilly,Malkin must have been kept out of the loop, in recent weeks they were pointing out how Delay would fight these vile aligations and return victoriously...but now he's doing the honorable thing for the PARTY.....is that like "You're doing a good job BROWNIE" (Ex FEMA BOSS)

305,000 new jobs 10,000 New McDonalds, Burger Kings, A and W Kentuky, KMarts, grass cutters, chicken pluckers....

1/07/2006 01:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why doesnt Daley prove that guns are not needed in the city, except the police???? Why doesnt Daley give up his 24 hour armed guards and live amungst the norm???Because he is safe, fu$k eveyone else.
Some gun hater above said something interesting, he said " assault rifles are for hunting, so do we need them"
I am not nra nor do I love guns guns guns, I believe that the right to bear arms is so we citezens can over take our goverment if it got outta of control.

1/07/2006 01:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Delay will walk

1/07/2006 01:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why doesnt Daley prove that guns are not needed in the city, except the police???? Why doesnt Daley give up his 24 hour armed guards and live amungst the norm???Because he is safe, fu$k eveyone else.
Some gun hater above said something interesting, he said " assault rifles are for hunting, so why do we need them"
I am not nra nor do I love guns guns guns, I believe that the right to bear arms is so we citezens can over take our goverment if it got outta of control.

1/07/2006 01:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GUN LAWS ARE SELF DEFEATING!
Q: Who pays attention to "Gun Laws"???
1)-Pookie,Julio &Joe fucking badguy ?
2)- Law Abiding Citizens?

I'm willing to bet there are almost the same number of guns in 007 that are in 022, same for 011 and 008, I'll bet 016 has more firepower per square foot than 015 &025!
To: RIGHT IS RIGHT, and the rest of my 2nd ammendment brethren. (and I want you "lefties" to PAY FUCKING ATTENTION!) We have a respect for the laws, and a sense of right and wrong! How many times do you think the 22 year cop/30 year gun owner has used his guns to stick someone up??? (not picking on you, just using you as an example!) I have a great little AR in my safe, I've had it for 15 years. Its NEVER went off by its self! Its NEVER stuck someone up! and NEVER killed a person! Can some mope in 007/008/015/011/005/006/004/010 say the same about his Lorcin? Look at the GUN CRIME in the two neighborhoods and tell me there is no diffrence!

There was a Crime Stat from the FBI a few, about 7 or 8 years ago. that stated that KITCHEN KNIVES (used as weapons) have injured more people than any other weapon! (I cant find it anywhere now, someone help!!!) Lets outlaw those!

Assault weapons, handguns, kitchen knives, cars, bats, jet-skis, rollerblades, beer/tequila, are all the same! Just another in-animate object. Its the person behind the object that makes it dangerous. Harder penalties for those who use guns in a crime, FUCK YES!!! Harder penalties for those who have Guns & drugs (including weed), FUCK YES!!!Harder penalties for Felons with guns, FUCK YES!!! Am I for a Concealed Carry in Illinois; FUCK YES!!! but there has to be a line drawn somewhere!
Can you tell the diffrence between a LAW ABIDING CITIZEN and someone who hasent been caught yet?
The majority of weapons used in Chicago were made from "straw purchases" (ask the CAGE guys). "Homie/Julio/Joe Fucking Badguy" got his Girlfriend to buy the Glock/Lorcin at whatever gun shop. If the G/F dont have a record, has a good FOID card, and the $$$, she just gave her new gun to her thug life boyfriend! In my opinion, the purchaser in that situation shuld go to the joint longer than the one that used the weapon! BUT: Can you discriminate at the purchase???

And a quick note for:
B)THEY, who would take it from you are the CPD. Sorry all, but that's what he said. So if you want a fight let's go!

I suggest you, or others, not make offers such as that, cause you are going to have one hell of a fight that neither of us (or anyone else who is on the job; City, county, state, or fed) DONT really want to be in! I'm not the one that made the 2:46 comment, but a lot of "US" are not going to give up without a fight. With your method of thinking, it suggests that you would turn in your gun long before "we" would. Do you really want to knock on "our" door with nothing but a "list of registered gun owners" in your hand? Hell, with your piece of paper, "we" wont need our guns, just the one finger salute, then slam the door in your over-righteous face. You sir/ma'am, sound a little like the "Over-analytical lunch money victim" from high-school we all know too well.

1/07/2006 01:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For those of you who really don't care either way on the subject of gun contol and the "assault weapon" ban issue. Here's why WE care:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm

When do start holding people accountable for their actions? I've carried a pistol long before I was the police and I've never shot or robbed anyone with it, or even thought about doing it. The problem as I see is not that these animals are doing these things, thats bad eneugh, it's that they are caught and tried and still getting second and third chances at it. I'm begining to think loosing you're hand may be a better deterant than a 5 year sentence, serving a year.

Some people will always be sheep and theres nothing we can do to change it, but we still show up everyday to keep them from becoming lunch for the wolves.

1/07/2006 02:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1631 are the best coppers ANYWHERE!

1/07/2006 03:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh great....1631 shit again...Oh boy!

1/07/2006 03:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Still waiting for source of the 15% number...

1/07/2006 03:24:00 PM  
Blogger Crimefile said...

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1/07/2006 03:25:00 PM  
Blogger Crimefile said...

Don't for get attempted Copper kilers like Howard Morgan.

Crimefile, you are the THE worst hypocrite on this blog. Just the other post you were theorizing that Howard Morgan survived an assassination attempt by CPD AFTER Morgan put bullets in the the officers. Shut up. I'm sick of your crappy opinions. One minute you are for the bad guy now you are trying to puff your chest out. Go back to AZ or where ever you retired to and keep investigating for the criminal defence teams. I bet your soul went for cheap.

1/07/2006 10:47:33 AM

I know you're not a copper because you could never pass the civil service test. Your reading skills are worse than poor.

You pulled, "survived an assassination attempt by CPD " straight out of your own smelly ass.

I never said Morgan did not do what he is accused of doing. I just remarked that that whole story makes no sense. YOU nor I don't know exactly what happened.

Every officer takes an oath the support the Constitution of the United States. That little paper you swore to defend provides for a presumption of innocence and due process. If you are a copper, which I doubt, you're in the wrong line of work. Go get yourself a job where you belong in the Taliban.

If cops are unwilling to protect the rights of Howard Morgan to a fair trial who in Hell will defend the next copper accused of a crime.

In case you don't know it there have been more than one copper falsly convicted and sent to the joint on the say so of convicted felons with little other evidence.

I'm only too happy to stop whatever I'm doing these days to work on the case of any accused copper. If that makes me bad, so be it!

1/07/2006 03:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To those who don't like the "they can have my gun when they pry it from my cold dead fingers." Quote it is meant to say that we have a right under the constitution to bear arms and we will not let a group of people with an agenda take away our rights. Liberals love gun control because it makes them feel like they are doing something when in fact they are hurting law abiding citizens by disarming them and leaving them prey to criminals. Gun control does not work. Chicago is a shining example of that. We have had a handgun ban for years but we still keep taking illegal guns off the street. If the States Attorneys and Judges would follow the laws and hold the criminal element accountable instead of kowtowing to special interests then law abiding upstanding citizens could carry and protect themselves without fear from the criminals and liberals.

1/07/2006 03:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The "FAT BOYS" are back. I saw Nolan's triple chin and Donahue's double chin from FOP in the FOP hand book and I thought the "FAT BOYS" are back. Pretty Cool.








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1/07/2006 03:33:00 PM  
Anonymous F I R E Frank Wilson!!! said...

Sorry to get off 'this' topic... however I feel we should be demanding answers of something that affects us all-that is- "WILL FUCK US ALL SOON" FUCKED UP PAY CHECKS.

The problem is that only supervisors were affected by the mess up. If everyone else was-there would be over 200 posts on the topic. THE PROBLEM IS eventually EVERYONE will be fucked over by the new payroll system.

The FOP/PBPA should demand that heads start rolling and file formal complaints (if possible)

What's going to happen is that when the W-2's come out (if they come out on time) I predict that they will be so messed up the city will have to issue 2 or 3 updated/corrected ones.. IN THE END, PREPARE TO BE AUDITED BY THE IRS ! ! !

F I R E Frank Wilson!!! Director of Finance NOW!!!

1/07/2006 03:36:00 PM  
Anonymous wake up daley said...

I ARREE !!!!

IF THIS WAS PRIVATE INDUSTRY THE BASTARD WOULD HAVE BEEN OUT OF A JOB MONTHS AGO!!!!!!!!

In the end.. its costing taxpayers more money to fix the fuck-ups!!

1/07/2006 03:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually Tariq Malhance, the city comptroller, is responsible for the pay fuck ups. He is over the finance department that issues our checks, w-2's, etc. Remember the new employee numbers and checks? Doesn't anyone pay attention? Figure out what's going on before you lash out.

1/07/2006 03:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
For those of you who really don't care either way on the subject of gun contol and the "assault weapon" ban issue. Here's why WE care:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm

Thanks! There was a similar Stat from our FBI a few years ago here in the US which stated that those same knives, being used as weapons (not an "ow, I cut myself" accident)Injured and killed more people than GUNS (assault, shotguns,handguns) for years!
With our City's far left mentality about guns, info like this will never be published! Then again, according to the city, Its the gun manufacturer's fault, therefore subject to a lawsuit, that people are getting hurt! WHAT BULLSHIT! It makes as much sence as a FORD/GM/BMW/BENZ.. just hit my car, I'm suing FORD/GM/BMW/...not the driver of the car that blew a .10! Want to sue someone, sue the LATIN KINGS, G-D's... "Cant do it", you say! BULLSHIT, Cicero sued the Latin Kings a few years ago AND WON! Do a search warrant/drug money seisure on the ALKN; the money goes to settle the suit before the Govt (State/City/Fed) gets it! Like you said: START HOLDING (the right) PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIER ACTIONS! Thanks again
1:58pm

1/07/2006 04:12:00 PM  
Anonymous I know crimefile said...

There is nothing wrong with crimefile's views. I know him and he was an good and aggressive copper and a stand up guy. He also new how to shoot! I'd like him to roll in on a 10-1 I needed any day!

1/07/2006 04:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

. . . . Doesn't anyone pay attention? Figure out what's going on before you lash out. ....
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Sorry Mr. Wilson.. Just pass the buck.

1/07/2006 04:22:00 PM  
Anonymous fire all these a-holes said...

I don’t motherfucking care who the fuck fucked up the goddamn paychecks asswipe!!!! FIRE ALL THESE POLITICAL FUCKS!!!!!! Wilson, Johnson, Smith.. or is it SMIFF?? Fire all these cocksucking bastard fucks!! 7 months of fucked up checks. Piss on ‘em. Fuck ‘em in the ass!!!!

1/07/2006 04:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yogi said...
The right of the people to arm bears shall not be infringed!

1/07/2006 05:07:55 AM

No YOGI It shall have fringe! We cant have guns, but a fringed bear can! Than again, if you see a fringed bear with a gun, are you going to argue with him?

1/07/2006 04:43:00 PM  
Anonymous No Money for Me said...

Is there a process for filing a formal complaint against the city comptroller? If you call downtown, you know that they will say no, but what is the truth?
I called PB&PA about filing grievance and complaint over the screw-up, still waiting for a response. I also tried calling Finance for both the Police Department and the city, but hey, Friday afternoon and the weekend, you know, who cares about a screwed up payroll, it's my weekend??!!

1/07/2006 04:53:00 PM  
Blogger malcom X's liitle brother said...

Please do not call for the firing of Frank Wilson. He is a fine African-American manager. Not his fault the checks were screwed up.

1/07/2006 05:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fire all these a-holes said...
I don’t motherfucking care who the fuck fucked up the goddamn paychecks asswipe!!!! FIRE ALL THESE POLITICAL FUCKS!!!!!! Wilson, Johnson, Smith.. or is it SMIFF?? Fire all these cocksucking bastard fucks!! 7 months of fucked up checks. Piss on ‘em. Fuck ‘em in the ass!!!!

1/07/2006 04:27:02 PM



The above poster REALLY needs a blow job or something!!! Talk about a time bomb...

1/07/2006 06:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and then you all wonder why Daley won't budge an inch on carrying and concealing!

1/07/2006 07:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Is Daley dead yet? said...

I have a great idea! Let's bring Daley's bodyguards a truckload of Twinkies. With any luck Daley will soon get the same fate as San Francisco Mayor, George Moscone.

Then we help the shooter gety off with the "Twinkie Defense"!

1/07/2006 07:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Still waiting for source of the 15% number...

1/07/2006 03:24:20 PM

The source smells, because he pulled that figure out of his ass! Like most "facts" anti-gunners spit out....it comes from their asses!

1/07/2006 07:51:00 PM  
Anonymous malcolm x's little brother said...

i'm joining the nra, the republican party, and am going to ask for the resignation of frank wilson.

1/07/2006 07:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Bears are hiring the Mayor's Chief of Staff Ron Hubberman as a "Packers" expert. Word is Hubberman has been a back door meat "PACKER" for years.

1/07/2006 10:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the 2nd ammendment exists for govt. control and self defense is is a nice byproduct.
to 01/07/06 01:58:47
amen.....now rescue us from this bullshit team.

1/07/2006 10:16:00 PM  
Anonymous sickofyou said...

If cops are unwilling to protect the rights of Howard Morgan to a fair trial who in Hell will defend the next copper accused of a crime.

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Pick a side, you tool! Oh that's right, you're retired (or is that retarded). Go fish!

Morgan's the one jumping on the TV. AFTER he shot two of your FORMER brothers. I hope he's paying you enough.

BTW, how's my spelling now?

1/07/2006 10:44:00 PM  
Anonymous NorthSide said...

Speaking of the bias of the (mainstream national) news media, there's a story that MAY break out of Philadelphia concerning the arrests of Ray Joseph Dandridge and Ricky Gavon Gray, both M/1/28 for two home invasions in Richmond, VA with a total of seven murder victims, including two children with slashed throats, all since the first of this new year.

As details emerge, I can't help but think of "THE WICHITA MASSACRE", which the national media ignored outside the State of Kansas merely because that interracial home invasion, including execution-style mass murders, rapes, robberies, etc. was "politically incorrect". The convicted and originally condemned Reginald and Jonathan CARR have since escaped the death penalty due to an unrelated state court reversal.

As a former homicide detective and an avid reader, I am fairly knowledgeable concerning the particulars of mass, spree and serial murder cases worldwide.

If you check the facts of "the Wichita Massacre" (See GOOGLE), I defy anyone to challenge that this atrocity is arguably the most egregious, heinous and sadistic home invasion murders in the annals of U.S. crime.

I say this being fully aware of the likes of Richard Speck, "the (Charles) Manson family", Richard "The Night Stalker" Ramirez, Danny "The Gainesville Ripper" Rolling and mosty recently Dennis "BTK" Rader (yet another Wichita monster).

Could the ongoing developments of the Richmond home invasion murders eclipse the EVIL of the Wichita Massacre? Barring another media cover-up, let's see what details emerge in today's arrests of Dandridge and Gray.

Conversely, all of you will recall that the New York Times and other liberal mainstream media gave worldwide cause celebre coverage to the tragic murders of James Byrd, Jr., a black man, (Jasper, TX) and Matthew Shepard, a gay man (Laramie, WY), for more than a year. In both separate cases, the killers were white males.

Even our local experience indicates that unless the unidentified perpetrator(s) of murders and other violent crimes are in custody or the subject of photos or a composite sketch, the "politically correct" media refuses to describe the perps by race, certainly if they are "African-American" (say a perfectly respectful monosyllable--BLACK, you pretentious assholes). In the interests of public safety, this P-C bullshit is not only preposterous. It also fails to alert the public to potentially fatal dangers.

If you have a racial description available (white, black, Hispanic, Asian, whatever): publicize it, damnit!. It could narrow the suspect pool and save lives.

Stay tuned about the Richmond home invasion murders. Don't be shocked if the coverage is limited to the East Coast from Philly to Virginia.

1/07/2006 10:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great argument for handgun ownership and concealed carry by law-abiding and trained citizens. What's Daley's response to these slaughters in the victims' homes?

Oh, that's right. Daley and family have had armed CPD bodyguards 24/7 all his adult life.

The media truly sucks!

1/07/2006 11:32:00 PM  
Anonymous northside said...

Re: Richmond, VA home invasion murders.

According to an unnamed source with the Richmond PD, the four victims of the New Years
home invasion homicides were white while the three victims from this Friday were black. All reports indicate that seven decent, law-abiding folks were slaughtered in their own homes by the two who fled to Philadelphia where they were arrested after a SWAT entry.

1/08/2006 01:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

talking about media bias.....


A Coincidence That's Too Coincidental

The U.S. economy has tons of strong companies looking for investors, so when stock analysts on two different Fox financial shows recommended buying the same three stocks during shows on Saturday (January 7, 2006), I was more than a little suspicious.

During Brenda Buttner's "Bulls and Bears," analysts suggested buying Verizon, J.P. Morgan Chase and Pfizer. In "Cavuto on Business" immediately following, investors recommended the same three stocks.

Googling the names of those companies with the head of News Corp., Rupert Murdoch, shows connections between all three companies and Murdoch.

Murdoch has been negotiating with Verizon on a deal under which the telecom company would carry News Corp.'s programming, similar to one negotiated by Verizon with Disney.

When Murdoch bought a third of Hughes Electronics Corp., he used J.P. Morgan to arrange the financing, according to Bloomburg.com

And Murdoch previously sat on the board of the Cato Institute, a right-wing think tank whose major donors includes Pfizer.

Does Murdoch expect stock analysts on his network's financial shows to recommend companies he does business with? Does he promise companies he will exert such pressure on their behalf when he negotiates deals with them? And if he does, whose interest does that serve -- Murdoch's or the public's?

I'm not saying he does. I'm just asking the questions.

1/08/2006 10:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First guns,now cigarettes,what will little richard try to ban next??????????????

1/08/2006 04:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey LefitistheBest aka Shady aka Ogrady aka shadenfruden etc...
(we know how many there are of you O'Grady) you are nothing but a BIG FAT COWARD!!!!!!!

GOD, GUNS AND GUTS MADE THIS COUNTRY WHAT IT IS!!!!!

GOD BLESS AMERICA , GEORGE BUSH, AND THE MIGHT OF THE US MILITARY.

AS FOR YOU YOU PINKO COMMIE FAGGOT, GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE.

1/08/2006 07:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It appears that the Second Amendment is a thorn in the side of some of our politicians as they are forever attempting to disarm the citizens of their constitutional right to bear arms. They forget that we were provided that right by our forefathers to protect us not only in case we were invaded by some foreign power, but also from attempted tyranny imposed by our government.

Politicians want us to believe that they, as representatives of our government, have the administrative ability to ensure us that our freedom is secure. Therefore, we as citizens should not be concerned, as they will provide.

Being good people, having intelligence or maintaining good thoughts does not give people the right to be free. The only reason we are presently free is because we not only have the best military force available, but, our citizens are armed and can further protect our nation should our military somehow falter.

Our politicians want us to forget what happened in Germany when Hitler got into power. Books were burned, and intellectuals and others were either shot, or imprisoned in slave labor camps.

In Afghanistan, the Taliban took over and controlled the movements of its citizen. They closed the schools, and brought the nation to its knees. They were the only ones allowed to determine how the people would be allowed to exist. The citizens of Iran presently live under similar conditions. Is this what our politicians want for this country?

Closer to home, look what happened after Katrina when the local law enforcement official from New Orleans ordered all its citizens arms confiscated in order to reduce any attempt on their part to refuse being evicted. He apparently wasn’t concerned that the police were unable to protect citizens from roving bands of criminals preying on them.

Reasonable gun control is just a stepping stone to total gun elimination. Our politicians apparently believe if they can’t control the actions of criminals preying upon the citizens, it must be the fault of the citizens. Therefore, if they take away the citizen’s weapons it will appear that they did something to solve the problem. Don’t believe any politician who says he only wants reasonable gun control, and is only interested in banning assault weapons, as was presented by U.S. Senator Diane Feinstein (D-Calif) and is presently offered as a solution by Mayor Daley, (D-Chicago). That promise was made to the people of England and Australia twenty years ago. Recently, England also banned possession of legally registered handguns which had to be turned in to the government and controlled all the way to the shredder and smelters. In every country where laws were established to disarm its citizens, the crime rate escalated.

The above action taken against law abiding citizens is not justified, because they are not the problem. Effective enforcement of the criminal laws is the solution. Politicians who do not respect the Constitution and the rights of its citizens must be voted from office and replaced by others who truly believe in this country and are willing to serve the people who elected them.

1/08/2006 08:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are allowed to hunt with what the media commonly defines as an 'assault rifle'. You can hunt with an AK-47 in such states as WI as long as it has a fixed stock and a 5 rnd magazine. I would say it would be more of a challenge with that over a Win 308 and a giant scope.

Besides what rifle is ever not an assault weapon?? So me a 'defense rifle'??

1/08/2006 11:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
the 2nd ammendment exists for govt. control and self defense is is a nice byproduct.
to 01/07/06 01:58:47
amen.....now rescue us from this bullshit team.

1/07/2006 10:16:08 PM

The 2nd Ammendment was created so citizens (such as ourselves) can protect themselves from TYRANNY (absolute power, especally when exercised unjustly or cruelly). Not for Govm't control! If anything, quite the contrary; to ensure the government does not have total control! Self Defense is OUR individual RESPONSIBILITY! And it is just that; a RESPONSIBILITY! The 2nd ammendment, along with the 1st, and 3rd, 4th, 5th,...carries with it a burden of responsibility! When Individuals can not handle the responsibility, laws are created to fill the void that responsibility cant! The bad thing is, now the "Law Makers" of this country are too often dirrected by "special intrest" groups, the media, and certain (for lack of a better word) tryannical powers (dont believe me??? take a look at our mayor & city government!). Sad but true.

As for the; "now rescue us from this bullshit team." Soon young jedi, soon...

1/09/2006 02:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love the liberals/democrats like Leftisthebest(gayboy) aka O'Grady and the rest of his egomaniacal post names...( I know he has many voices in his head, HELLO??? HELLO??? O'grady, are you here???)want to diarm the american citizens.
Remember the Nazi's disarmed there citizens prior to the start of WWII.
A coincidence? I think NOT.

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1/09/2006 07:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dont ever recall handling a case where a assault rifle was used as the weapon. Now I am not saying it dies not happen I just dont remember having one in my 17 years on the job...

1/10/2006 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've had 4 murders in the last year where an assault rifle was used. 2 in 012 and 2 in 011. Gun control is being able to hit your target.

1/11/2006 12:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know crimefile said...
There is nothing wrong with crimefile's views. I know him and he was an good and aggressive copper and a stand up guy. He also new how to shoot! I'd like him to roll in on a 10-1 I needed any day!

1/07/2006 04:16:21 PM


Ok Crimefile, quit posting under other names.

1/11/2006 01:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In honor of (or more likely, in spite of) King Richard II, I just sent a donation to the NRA.

I know it's a rhetorical question, but how would his highness act if he lost his bodyguards?

1/11/2006 05:15:00 PM  

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