Friday, January 06, 2006

Hello? Is this Fixable?

From the Comments Section:
  • Rumor is if you have direct deposit, once the city figures out what your check should have been, you'll have to cut them a check for the difference. If you receive a check(not direct deposit),you're to return it and they'll cut you a new one once they figure out what the proper amount is. I also heard that it appears to be only supervisor's checks. Haven't been into work yet today so don't know if that's a fact.
We don't know about you guys, but we're going to need two accountants to figure out our freaking taxes this year. We've heard that we're getting two W-2 forms because of the switch over. Now we're going to need an expert in Sanskrit to figure out how everything goes together.

Is this grievable? Can we get the City to pay for our accountants? Because they are really starting to PISS US OFF.

101 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey I'm First !!!!!!!!!!!
It allways cost us more money whenever the city tries to save money

1/06/2006 01:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey im second.....Bt 1631 3rd watch still worst beat car and 016 are just pusies. I live on beat and as you can see from 3258 N. Harlem my beat is going to shit. Thanks 016!!!!!

1/06/2006 01:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Secret cameras got a cop in 025 on days busted! Slapping acitizen for no reason! POLICE BRUTALITY! WE NEED MORE CAMERAS TO WATCH THE POLICE!

1/06/2006 01:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It would be pretty boring watching us do nothing.

1/06/2006 01:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Secret cameras got a cop in 025 on days busted! Slapping acitizen for no reason! POLICE BRUTALITY! WE NEED MORE CAMERAS TO WATCH THE POLICE!

1/06/2006 01:27:19 PM

Oh tough'en up you sissy. A good crack by your parents didnt scar you for life so I say swing away!

1/06/2006 01:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dammit! I've dealt with that district on all 3 watches, and that was the watch I liked most. As in, I actually liked more than a few on the watch.

3rd watch I can always excuse for general newbie-ness, but 1st watch is a disgrace. Why 2nd watch? Why?

1/06/2006 01:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe we can get the same accountant as the President, then we too can stick it to the poor!

1/06/2006 02:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the city should hire real accountants so that things don't get screwed up so bad!!!

1/06/2006 02:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This judge just sentenced a child rapist who repeatedly raped a seven year old girl for years to 60 days in jail. Maybe he transfered out there from a Cook County Court!

http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=4319605&nav=4QcT

1/06/2006 02:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

does anybody know who is on 1631 3rd watch

1/06/2006 03:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic: Is anyone now watching ch. 7 about the church fire on Indiana - they are interviewing Dorothy Tillman. What a disgrace. And she's an alder-creature. She sounds like an uneducated west sider.

1/06/2006 04:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the second fire that Bobby Rush has been at. Is he an arsonist? Just wondering.

1/06/2006 04:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

none of these comments deal with the topic at hand

1/06/2006 04:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was a difference of over $800.00 between my check and another Sgts. I have him on seniority by about 15 years. Of course my check was lower.Go figure.

1/06/2006 04:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:27:19

Nice try. You will NOT get any of us to comment about what you allege.

1/06/2006 04:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My duty availability check was $2,300 see you in Vegas!!!

1/06/2006 04:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey anonymous 01:22:59 PM
Ive been in 016 for 12 years.There are some hard working coppers there,and a few who should not be there,JUST LIKE THE DISTRICT YOU WORK IN. If its so bad Please move out of the district. Im a few years older than most, I would help any policeman for just about anything they needed. However I am getting tired of your rantings. You are having a negative effect on a number of officers in the district and you are bringing the credibility of this blog down. Its time to give it a break. Got a problem with 1631,Go talk to them and let them know how you feel. Thats how policemen would handle it.

1/06/2006 04:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah its a great system. For months my overtime and special checks did not have federal taxes taken out of them. When I called Finance to complain they told me I should fill out a withholding and have another 100 dollars taken out of my regular check a month because they could not help me. When I called FOP they told me there was nothing they could do until the computer glitches were worked out by the city. That was In October. In Dec I did not get my Uniform check (Like so many of you) and I called FOP again where I got the speaker phone and no help. Then I got my check later as a LIVE check, Not direct deposit. Now this with the Sgts. If we F$$ked up this bad on our reports there would be CR#s on us. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! since the city did it its OK. Go out and buy some KY boys and Girls, your gonna get it real hard when you do your taxes.

1/06/2006 05:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, I heard DoDo Tilman. What a mutt.

1/06/2006 05:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: 4:10

Dorothy Tillman sounds like that because she is both an uneducated westsider and, from what I've heard, a former prostitute.

As far as the overage in the supervisor's quarterly checks goes, a teletype will be sent out tomorrow addressing the issue. Apparently the idiots at Finance screwed up all the checks.

Needless to say, the City is going to deduct the overage from our next paycheck, so don't go spending all that money.

Being that Finance is a division of the Police Department and CPD employees, they are subject to the same rules and regulations as sworn officers. Perhaps the Sergeant's union should obtain a CR# against the Director of Finance for inattention to duty. Maybe then they would quit screwing up all the paychecks to our detriment.

1/06/2006 05:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dear 1:22. If you are such a great cop do us all a favor and transfer to the 016th district and show us how its done.80 to 90 % of the officers are here because they would rather protect their homes and other coppers homes than protect homie from homie. Now if you dont want to transfer here I propose you go to VCG and buy some medals for that big super cop chest of yours because obviously you are so much better than anyone else. ps. How do you fit that big fat head of yours into the squad car?

1/06/2006 05:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Malcolm X's liitle brother said...
Maybe we can get the same accountant as the President, then we too can stick it to the poor!

1/06/2006 02:07:48 PM

What the Fuck are you talking about? What an idiot!

1/06/2006 05:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Malcolm X's liitle brother said...
Maybe we can get the same accountant as the President, then we too can stick it to the poor!

1/06/2006 02:07:48 PM

Do you always come up with such original thoughts?

1/06/2006 05:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dont know anything about the rumor going around about direct deposit and if there is an error you would be responsible for cutting the check..however if you read the direct deposit application it states the city has the right to withdraw funds it deposited in your account in error. So if your check is a little dont spend it all in one place....would my bank charge me NSF charges if I spent it and the city later tried to withdraw? you bet your ass they would so be careful.

1/06/2006 06:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey all of 016th dist coppers,every time that fuck hole mentions bt.1631,,dont give him a response..he will just have to sit at his puter and wait and wait and wait and then he might go out in his district and make a arrest..because i know he can't be the real police,he is alway on the puter,,never in court or overtime..he might event be a female officer with 6-kids and have only been on the street 2 out of his 7yrs because he has been given births to little baster's..PLEASE NO MORE RESPONSE TO THIS ASS WHIP..from a 16th dist police officer.

1/06/2006 06:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1631 sucks.

1/06/2006 06:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2431 blows too

1/06/2006 06:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: 1/06/2006 04:59:48 PM

Good point or theory. But, that theory doesn't work when the people there don't want to take care of their own. Then your idea goes out the door.

1/06/2006 06:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The last one was directed at
1/06/2006 05:13:49 PM post not 04:59 sorry

1/06/2006 06:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does the DIRECTOR OF FINACE have any accounting skills?????

Lets get a CR number on these bastards!!!!

1/06/2006 07:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You'll never change the mindset of the 16th District officer. The old guys are set in there ways and ready to retire and the young guys have already been ruined by the slow, I don't give a shit attitude of the older guys. There are working officers in 16, but not enough. And Sgt.'s that try to come down on the dogs don't get any support from the higher ranks.

The only way it will change and the only way we can change it our level is for as many working officers that can need to bid into the district and take it over. Every time there is an opening and you can make the bid; do it. If no working officer is will to do that, then quit your complaining.

The idea of splitting beats and adding more officers is a great one, but the only thing we can control at our level is the bid.

So get in there guys and "make a difference". The simple fact that working officer don't bid in shows a lack of priorities; protect our homes first.

My rant is done.

Happy Fuckin' New Year Cryin' Bitches!!

1/06/2006 07:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this was a private company... the Director of Finance WOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED!!!!

1/06/2006 07:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK, I will quit picking on Bt. 1631.

1632 SUCKS!!!

1/06/2006 07:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The black hoods already get more service than they should. If the good citizens of those hoods would stop selling and buying drugs and beating their wives and knocking up they geerlfrends, they would not need the extra police service they already get. BACK OFF MXLB!!

1/06/2006 07:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh yeah and tell your Minority brothers to pick up an order and study and maybe more would get promoted. Instead of sitting back and waiting for the free handout that they think is "owed" to them; that goes for black, hispanic and female.

1/06/2006 07:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and before you go there, this isn't racism, it's fact.

1/06/2006 07:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stupid European-American attempting to pose as me in several posts by leaving out a letter in the name. I bet you are laughing under your sheet as you type away at the KKK h.q. Grow loser, you are just showing how your type have screwed up the world.

1/06/2006 07:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, well said MX because if it weren't for european and asian influence on the world we would still be chasing our food around with sharpened sticks, no books, tv, airplanes....no time for a brotha to commit a crime.

1/06/2006 07:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what are you talking about it is you. little spelled liitle.

1/06/2006 08:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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1/06/2006 08:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is going down a bad road.

1/06/2006 08:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

exactly what in the hell do all these psychobabbling rants have to do with the original post, every posting has the same morons rambling on about the same off topic bullshit. try and keep it on topic shall we kids! and those of you both police and citizen alike that want to vent about how you got screwed by "the system" GET IN LINE BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS AT ONE TIME OF ANOTHER! j.a.f.o.

1/06/2006 08:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alright. Everybody join hands and feel the love.

Let's sing:

Kumbaya, my lord, kumbaya...

1/06/2006 09:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a guestion. However we have to repay the city for their fuckup, how does that affect the taxes? What I mean is, we've already been taxed for the Supv quartely. If we repay the city, are they going to reduce the amount that we have to pay them back by the amount that we were taxed?

I know what I said probably doesn't make sense, but I hope some of you figure out what it is I mean.

That is all....

1/06/2006 10:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lil Malcom, dont fret your bad self, we know it wasnt you! Cause not even you, in the deepest, blackest part of your Euro-American hatin' heart would ever say some horse-shit like "Capt" White of 005 fame is a great boss.

1/06/2006 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I got a quick question why is it when a jailguard calls police job comes out as "assist police"?

1/06/2006 11:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What has the FOP done to help those with payroll problems? Anything?
Apparently not, seven months after the change and the problems still exist.
Why is it that my paycheck is not the same every pay period? Why does it change a couple of cents every time?
Maybe a class action lawsuit will improve the payroll system.

1/06/2006 11:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A jail guard under normal situations around us, is a Cook County Sheriff, therefore he is sworn, peace officer..aka police officer and they're there to assist us whenever we need it.
After a small incident in the suburbs, a call to local 911 CCS responded immediately to the scene and went beyond what he had to do.
With no whining or any bullshit from him towards us. (the real police)

1/06/2006 11:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If anyone bothered to read the notice that came out back in the summer, you would know that paychecks are no longer issued by the police dept. All pay checks are now handled by the city's finance dept. That's why we received new employee numbers. You can't get a CR# against them, but you can file a complaint, not that it would go anywhere. Eddie Burke, formerly one of us, is too busy campaigning against smoking and the war to worry about your problems.

1/06/2006 11:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I THINK WE SHOULD REVOLT AND GO BACK TO RECEIVING LIVE CHECKS SCREW THE CITY AND DEPT OF FINANCE

1/07/2006 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

is it true that dorothy tillman was a ride along on bt 1631 this afternoon?

1/07/2006 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since we are on the topic of smoking, now that this new ordinance is in place does that mean that all smoking in prisons inside the city limits will stop? including the jail yard, It says you can't smoke anywhere around a municipal buildings.

1/07/2006 12:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hate to inform you but....Cook County Sheriff's are NOT "police officers" they are "CORRECTIONAL officers...only the Cook County Sheriff's "Police" are sworn police officers as are we....big difference....I don't know that correctional officers even have police powers....they cannot make arrests and cannot stop vehicles etc...they can detain people but I am almost certain that they are not sworn with "police powers" so to speak...CCS Police are real police but they go through actual police academy

1/07/2006 12:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dont understand?? said...

I got a quick question why is it when a jailguard calls police job comes out as "assist police"?

1/06/2006 11:10:25 PM

Because a 'jailguard' aka correctional officer who is deputized, is a peace officer. That means he's authorized to carry a sidearm, and is probably armed. Now when you come on the scene, you'll expect that.

And don't go giving me any of that "real police" bullshit. And NO, I'm not a 'jailguard' I'm sworn CPD.

1/07/2006 01:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

is it true that dorothy tillman was a ride along on bt 1631 this afternoon?

1/07/2006 12:13:19 AM

As a southsider who gets lost north of the river, I only have one thing to say: GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!

OK, I have two things to say, go fuck yourself, and you can let up on 1631, we all know what dogs they are. DICKHEAD!!

1/07/2006 01:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FYI (12:59)

Unless they get jammed up, Cook County Correctional Officers are also deputized. That makes them peace officers with the authority to carry a sidearm and make arrests. There are times they are de-deputized and lose their peace powers, but almost all of them are also deputies.

As peace officers they may make arrests, but need a police officer to facilitate that arrest. Exception: Cook County Sheriff's Police - they are Police, and don't need anyone's assistance.

1/07/2006 01:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder how much the mayors nephew had to pay to get the new payroll contract?

1/07/2006 01:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP, doing nothing AS USUAL! BET THEY GET THERE $. THE FOP GUY'S GOT THEIR RETRO CHECKS THE DAY AFTER THE CONTRACT WAS SETTLED BY THE FOP ACCOUNTANT/PAYROLL!

NICE RAISES FOR THOSE INSIDE DO NOTHING GUYS!

1/07/2006 01:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just want to thank the people who screwed up my check. Now I don't know how much I get to keep or how they're going to get it back.

And I have to tell that crazy woman who sleeps next to me that she can't go spending this money, that the city made a mistake.

What a headache!

1/07/2006 01:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have another dring Shaun

1/07/2006 01:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP, doing nothing AS USUAL! BET THEY GET THERE $. THE FOP GUY'S GOT THEIR RETRO CHECKS THE DAY AFTER THE CONTRACT WAS SETTLED BY THE FOP ACCOUNTANT/PAYROLL!

NICE RAISES FOR THOSE INSIDE DO NOTHING GUYS!

Again another idiot that doesnt have a clue as to what he is talking about. Ok nit-wit here it is FOP is a bargining unit!! They can file grievances for unfair practices that violate our contract with the city. The city may have a problem with the IRS for not properly deducting correct amounts from employees payroll. It would be nice if more posts were written by people with an ounce of intelligence.

1/07/2006 01:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ald. Tillman sounded like a typical shit-bird.
There is a reason for that.

1/07/2006 02:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All right all you CPD (former Cook County Correctional Officers) apoligists let me set the record straight. First lets address the corruption that allows these goofs to get that job as "correctional officer" in the first place. It starts by having a poliical connection in Cook County government (Stroger for example). You or your mommy pays a nice "contribution" to the re-election campaign fund to the politician and "bing,bam.boom" you got a job. I know this first hand so before you get started " I did'nt pay nobody to get my job!" Sit down and shut up. Second I happen to know of (4) examples I can give you to back up my statement. While I was in the academy (3) of these "correctional officers" tried to get on our job, fortunately for all of us "they all pissed hot" and were fired instantly. A few years later I go to court at 26th & Cal and all three at back at work as "correctional and now court officers". Another example a wanna be the police type takes the exam to become a CHA police officer and fails the psychological exam. FAILS IT, who fails that I ask you? This yahoo has his mommy pay off "politician (A)" and amazingly enough he is now a "correctional officer" AND now allowed to carry a firearm. This genius is caught stealing prisoners property, arrested for stalking 3 times, aggravated CSA with a gun, agg. assualt of a CPD Sgt. and has been stripped at least 4 times of his badge yet.... he is still working there and has been subsequently been promoted!

I took the time to research exactly what authority these "dangerous" types have and found out 1. IF THEY WORK AS CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS THEY HAVE NO POWERS OUTSIDE THE JAIL THEY WORK IN (yet they always land part time work because they lie to their employers and say that they are the police) Like a security guard they are only allowed to carry their weapon to and from work. If they are assigned to different units within the correctional system like court officer or delivering summons or handling evictions then they may carry their weapons outside the jail and off duty. The "ONLY" prerequisite for having that job is paying off the right person and having a job for life.

Now that being said there are some good guys and gals that had that job and what usually happens is that they move on to better jobs and only use that job as a "over glorified security guard/turn key" as a stepping stone to a "real police" job. Anyone who stays on that job is "soft" OR like the examples I've listed above can't get a job anywhere else because any legit police agency won't hire their dope smoking ass. So spare me the "we are the police B.S." because your not. A word to the wise all you wanna be the police types out there if you screw up out here trying to play the role or try and flash your toy badge trying to get a break out here your going down if I have anything to do with it because like a police officer you can be charged with Offical Misconduct. Look for a lot of those "correctional officers" to go down with the Randy Rencher scandal. He's running his mouth to the feds about how things are done there on 26th street. Sheahan is retiring before the fit hits the shan!

1/07/2006 06:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FYI: If everyone would take the time to read the bottom of the form in which you requested that your check be direct deposited, then you will see that you authorized the City to go into your account to debit it for any amount which was found to be deposited in error. That sounds like fun, doesn't it?

1/07/2006 07:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
All right all you CPD (former Cook County Correctional Officers) apoligists let me set the record straight. First lets address the corruption that allows these goofs to get that job as "correctional officer" in the first place. It starts by having a poliical connection in Cook County government (Stroger for example). You or your mommy pays a nice "contribution" to the re-election campaign fund to the politician and "bing,bam.boom" you got a job. I know this first hand so before you get started " I did'nt pay nobody to get my job!" Sit down and shut up."

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Now let's see. Hmmm, I got my Correctional Officer job by taking the test, getting certified by the merit board, and talking to a recruiter at a COLLEGE job fair.

I was subsquently scheduled for an interview and was hired by the Sheriff's Office as a Correctional Officer. NOTHING more to it oh great one.

I was NEVER asked to do political work, was NEVER asked to do ANYTHING at all once I was hired period.

So know-it-all, everyone there is not hired due to political corruption.


___________________________________

"Anonymous said...

Second I happen to know of (4) examples I can give you to back up my statement. While I was in the academy (3) of these "correctional officers" tried to get on our job, fortunately for all of us "they all pissed hot" and were fired instantly. A few years later I go to court at 26th & Cal and all three at back at work as "correctional and now court officers". Another example a wanna be the police type takes the exam to become a CHA police officer and fails the psychological exam. FAILS IT, who fails that I ask you? This yahoo has his mommy pay off "politician (A)" and amazingly enough he is now a "correctional officer" AND now allowed to carry a firearm. This genius is caught stealing prisoners property, arrested for stalking 3 times, aggravated CSA with a gun, agg. assualt of a CPD Sgt. and has been stripped at least 4 times of his badge yet.... he is still working there and has been subsequently been promoted!"
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Let's see, being DQ'd at the psych exam for one department and then getting hired by another department HAPPENS ALL THE TIME Rocket Scientist. You see, you do not fail the Psych test, your profile is not what Department A is looking for.

If your profile says you are an aggressive problem solver and department A is looking for a laid back look to your supervisors for guidance type personality, you will be DQ'd.

The tests do not mean someone is not meant to carry a firearm.

The county does not have pysch examinations.

For the people who "pissed hot," if they were on a leave of absence and were fired, they would be able to return to their job. If they were retested and passed the drug screening they are back on.


___________________________________

"Anonymous said...

I took the time to research exactly what authority these "dangerous" types have and found out 1. IF THEY WORK AS CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS THEY HAVE NO POWERS OUTSIDE THE JAIL THEY WORK IN (yet they always land part time work because they lie to their employers and say that they are the police) Like a security guard they are only allowed to carry their weapon to and from work. If they are assigned to different units within the correctional system like court officer or delivering summons or handling evictions then they may carry their weapons outside the jail and off duty."

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Here is your research:

(720 ILCS 5/2‑13) (from Ch. 38, par. 2‑13)
Sec. 2‑13. "Peace officer". "Peace officer" means any person who by virtue of his office or public employment is vested by law with a duty to maintain public order or to make arrests for offenses, whether that duty extends to all offenses or is limited to specific offenses.

They are DEPUTIZED. You do know what DEPUTIZED means right? If you are working at the old TSA Secondary employment, you were sworn in as a special DEPUTY U.S. Marshal. What does that mean? Oh, I guess that means that you are empowered with the Authority of a U.S. Marshal.

A DEPUTIZED correctional officer would then be what? Oh, I take it to mean that they are empowered with the AUTHORITY of a Sheriff.

What in God's name do they need to be DEPUTIZED for if they are Jail Guards. Well let's see, if they are just JAIL GUARDS, there is no reason to DEPUTIZE them because they can carry firearms while working and to and from work.

But Wait there's more, they are Deputized, the only people exempt from U.U.W. provisions are PEACE OFFICERS and PEACE OFFICERS have WHAT?....Powers of Arrest!

If the Correctional Officers were not Deputized your points about being just correctional officers would be correct. Your points are irrelevent because they are DEPUTIZED. In other words, they have been granted POLICE POWERS by virtue of their Deputization. Our lockup Keepers are still Police Officers right?

Their ID acknowledges they are Deputy Sheriffs. What more do you need to get that through your head.

You are wrong!

1/07/2006 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jail guards are jail guards.

Period.

In Cook County, there is an academy for jail guards so that they can get state cerified as a "Corrections Officer."

If they then get hired by a police department, they then have to attend a POLICE academy to get state certified as a "Law Enforcement Officer."

NOW they can call themselves POLICE officers.

All this mickey mouse "Peace officer," "deputized," "Correctionsofficer" bullshit talk is getting old.

The only time I give a fuck to bad-mouth a JAIL GUARD is when they try to pass themselves off as COPS, and whine about their "arrest powers" and such.

All you current and ex-jail guards, get over your inferiority complex. Most coppers are never going to respect you or appreciate you having worked at the ZOO.

"I" could give a fuck.

I might give you a play on a traffic ticket, IF you don't act like a jagoff, but you break the law, you're going back to 26/cal---in CUFFS.

I take care of MY OWN, even if they are stroke coppers, I try to give THEM extra attention.

NOT jailguards, ASA's, security guards, McDonald's workers, gas station attendants, etc., etc.

Loyalty to my own, ONLY.

Just telling it like it is.

1/07/2006 10:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have NO inferiority Complex, pal. I just know the law and know the jail job is a thankless job. I left it but I still remember how it is.

See, I do not need your respect or appreciation. Like it or not, I am a former "jail guard" who is now on the job and is doing quite well.

I see a whole lot of whining going on here by CPD officers. Everyone whines, you just need to get over it.

In fact you are whining about the mickey mouse Peace Officer Deputized Correctional Officer Stuff.

Like I said, I don't need your appreciation or respect for the job I did at CCDOC but like it or not they have arrest powers, can carry a firearm, and are Peace Officers.

You just need to get over it because you are an angry little man.

1/07/2006 10:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not a former CCDOC Guard, but they are deputized as peace officer's. Thus they can carry and arrest. So get over it. Why should it bother you! I bet if you were getting your ass kick you wouldn't give a shit then if a "Jail Guard" was first on scene to help you. We are all in the Law Enforcement field. We shouldn't be bitchin about other coppers on the job or if jail guards can carry guns. We should be bitchin about how these no good judges are taking care of all these shit head offenders.

Lets all watch out for each other on this job. We only work for eight hours with each other. Last year not one CPD officer was killed, let keep it that way this year and say prayers to all 150 officers that were killed last year accross this nation and the 3 that have been killed this year. Stay safe and stop bitching about each other and go home to your other family after your shift!

1/07/2006 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a former C.C. J/G. They are sworn peace officers not police officers. According to Illinois state law both have the same "powers" off duty (a.k.a carry a gun). Any and every citizen has power of arrest in the state. So if you felt all warm inside because of your super powers, sorry.
That being said, there were even more beat-offs on that job than on CPD (hard to imagine, I know).I knew my time there was short but the freaks that they hired used to go crazy when I would tell them that we were not police. I agree that they should dispatch these jobs as assist the sheriff so you know that there is a 75% chance your dealing with a fool playing po-po. Wether on not you think they should be allowed to carry is irrelavent, just be aware that they are and use caution.

1/07/2006 12:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
I am a former C.C. J/G. They are sworn peace officers not police officers. According to Illinois state law both have the same "powers" off duty (a.k.a carry a gun). Any and every citizen has power of arrest in the state. So if you felt all warm inside because of your super powers, sorry.
That being said, there were even more beat-offs on that job than on CPD (hard to imagine, I know).I knew my time there was short but the freaks that they hired used to go crazy when I would tell them that we were not police. I agree that they should dispatch these jobs as assist the sheriff so you know that there is a 75% chance your dealing with a fool playing po-po. Wether on not you think they should be allowed to carry is irrelavent, just be aware that they are and use caution.

1/07/2006 12:49:50 PM"

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It is NOT the same power of Arrest as a Citizen in this State. You being the Po-Po should know that.

Your arrest powers AND the arrest powers of a Peace Officer are identical and do, in fact, differ than those of citizens. If I have to explain the difference, perhaps you should take a law class.

Do you think of YOUR powers of arrest as super powers? I don't think so.

Yes, there are a lot of Police Buffs in CCDOC, but you just slam the entire group. They are a lot better these days than in the past.

1/07/2006 01:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My intent was not to give a lecture on law, only to give a clueto those who think that the power of arrest is some mandate from God. You can call it Police Buff or Gun nut or whatever but it still translates into giant BEAT OFF! Just listen to the 8th Dist. (zone 6) 9 out of ten calls of off duty police trying to make a bullshit arrest is a C.C. Sheriff playing police.

1/07/2006 01:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just listen to the 8th Dist. (zone 6) 9 out of ten calls of off duty police trying to make a bullshit arrest is a C.C. Sheriff playing police.

1/07/2006 01:32:47 PM

----------------------------------- Are you serious?? Only one call out of 10 are from actual citezens? This is remarkable! You are a stroke! get your facts straight. One out of hundred maybe.

1/07/2006 02:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

learn how to read.

1/07/2006 02:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow. You actually typed it out verbatim, and still can't comprehend the sentence.

1/07/2006 02:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it true that over twenty gang teams were babysitting Alderwoman Tillmans New Years Eve bash, while the Seventh Dist went up which resulted in 7 shootings and a homicide or two

1/07/2006 02:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Jail guards are jail guards.

Period.

So, does that make you better than them? You are Mr. High and fucking Mighty? Would you like to do that job? At least in the prison system, the prisoners are for the most part long term residents and come from all over. In the jail, they come in and they go out. How would you MR. HIGH AND MIGHTY like to be a correctional officer running into all these mutts all the time, with them knowing you cannot carry a gun?

I think you'd shit your pants. The mutts know the Correctional guys can carry.

I won't deny they have jagoffs in their midst. And they come to light, because jagoffs cannot help but being jagoffs. But wait!! We have jagoffs in our department too! Or don't you read the newspaper?

Take your prima donna attitude and shove it up your ass.

A Chicago Cop

1/07/2006 03:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IT’S TO BAD EVERYONE HAS GOTTEN OFF THE TOPIC of FUCKED UP paychecks.

The problem is that only supervisors were affected by the mess up. If everyone else was-there would be over 200 posts on the topic. THE PROBLEM IS eventually EVERYONE will be fucked over by the new payroll system.

The FOP/PBPA should demand that heads start rolling and file formal complaints (if possible)

What's going to happen is that when the W-2's come out (if they come out on time) I predict that they will be so messed up the city will have to issue 2 or 3 updated/corrected ones.. IN THE END, PREPARE TO BE AUDITED BY THE IRS ! ! !

F I R E Frank Wilson!!! Director of Finance NOW!!!

1/07/2006 03:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The homicide in 007 was after 1300 on the 1st. There was no "or two". I'm not a Tillman fan, but you make people who don't like her sound stupid when you make shit up and just throw it out there. A good reason to not like her was listening to her illiterate ass try to speak coherently on the Ch 7 news yesterday afternoon. It sounded like I was listening to a 50yoa hype at a ghetto domestic.

1/07/2006 03:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To all you current and ex-jail guards:

Start your own fucking blog!

Here are some ideas:

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formerjailguardsbutnowsecondcitycops.blogspot.com

or how about:

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imaccjailguardthatcanlockupbadguystoobecauseimapeaceofficerjustlikesecondcitycoppers.blogspot.com

and finally, check out the new blog i just put up:

kissmyassitsnotmyfaultyouareaccjailguard.blogspot.com

HAHA!

1/07/2006 03:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hopefully this post is more clear:

ihaveaninferioritycomplexbecausesecondcitycopsarerippingonccjailguardsontheirblog.blogspot.com

imaccjailguardthatcanlockupbadguystoobecauseimapeaceofficertooireallyreallyreallyam.blogspot.com

HAHA!

1/07/2006 03:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

0332 pm post so your saying they did not have all that man power watching Tillmans party until midnite, maybe you should talk to some gang teams

1/07/2006 04:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh well, ya'll get the picture.

1/07/2006 04:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jail guards are sooo easy!

Truth hurts, doesn't it?

1/07/2006 04:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually Tariq Malhance, the city comptroller, is responsible for the pay fuck ups. He is over the finance department that issues our checks, w-2's, etc. Remember the new employee numbers and checks? Doesn't anyone pay attention???Figure out what's going on before you lash out..

1/07/2006 04:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don’t motherfucking care who the fuck fucked up the goddamn paychecks asswipe!!!!

FIRE ALL THESE POLITICAL FUCKS!!!!!! Wilson, Johnson, Tolieta, Latrinea Smith.. or is it SMIFF??

Fire all these cocksucking bastard fucks!! 7 months of fucked up checks. Piss on ‘em. Fuck ‘em in the ass!!!!

1/07/2006 04:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ok lay off the coffee will ya

1/07/2006 04:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

like i said to all of you cook county correctional officers apologists " SIT DOWN and SHUT UP!" You said it yourself "they don't give a psych test" so that mean in other words any demented fuck up who creams in his transformers underoos about being the police can get that job. Me myself I don't want it to be that easy for some wanna be fuck up to get a badge and a gun. Because you took some kind of rubber stamp test to get the patronage job to end all patronage jobs don't try and impress my with your vast knowledge. And the law you quoted is referring to police officers not corrections which these knuckle heads are under. I got my information from their own IAD about the limitations of the "correctional officers" and you failed to adress all the scandalous b.s. these guys and gals are involved in and I only gave you 4 examples believe me I got a whole lot more. Read tomorrows SUN TIMES to see exactly what I'm talkin about. They will be talking about these phony wanna bees out there perpatrating as the "real police". So get over yourself you hypersensitive prick ya! (you know who you are)

1/07/2006 05:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No 2:07 YOU ARE THE FUCKING STROKE! Now go back and read what I wrote S.....L......O......W......L......Y so you can comprehend, dumb fuck. I said 9 out of ten calls of off duty P.O. making a bullshit arrest not 9 out of 10 of all calls you ass clown.

1/07/2006 05:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear 3:52,

I can see by your rantings that you are a prima donna. All prima donnas can go fuck themselves, especially YOU.

Respectfully,

Me

1/07/2006 07:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
No 2:07 YOU ARE THE FUCKING STROKE! Now go back and read what I wrote S.....L......O......W......L......Y so you can comprehend, dumb fuck. I said 9 out of ten calls of off duty P.O. making a bullshit arrest not 9 out of 10 of all calls you ass clown.

1/07/2006 05:19:58 PM

Go back the your jail job Barney fife.

1/07/2006 08:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Question?
Is it just the CPD having payroll problems or is it city wide = all departments?

1/07/2006 10:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One thing I could always count on while I've been on this job, and that's payday. The timekeeper may make an error, but the paycheck was always on time.

Now I get a check that's obviously way too much! What are they going to do about it? Suck it out of my bank? Have me write a check? Take it out of my next check? I hope someone has an answer by Monday so I can figure out my budget.

HELLO OUT THERE IN FINANCE LAND (Not CPD) what do I do?

1/08/2006 12:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear 7:58

I'd rather be a prima donna than a jealous wanna-be.

So FUCK YOU harder!

HaHa!

1/08/2006 04:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1/07/2006 04:00:46 PM

In your original post you inferred having people babysit Dorothy's party was responsible for 2 homicides. Well it wasn't. When you make shit up you lose credibility. You know credibility, like when you get caught bullshitting the judge and now you have no credibility for your future one baggers. No one believes you after that. It's a simple concept.

1/08/2006 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will not bash any uniformed Cook County people, as they to have a thankless job. When one f's up, you shouldn't blame them all, always a few bad seeds in any group. Several years ago, we on viewed a real Hatfield-McCoy type shootout on 69 Pl., just west of Damen. I for one was glad when the off-duty Cook County jailguard came to our assist before we even finished calling for help. A whole family went to jail that night, and the off-duty guy happily got on the paper and made an excellent witness at court, I just hope he may now be one of us, this guy was good.

1/08/2006 10:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1/06/2006 10:55:29 PM, Thanks, I'll take this bit off info to my tax guy. Are you an accountant or something? I can barely keep my check book straight!

1/08/2006 12:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I work with CCDOC guys and retired P.O.'s at my side gig.

One retired P.O. told me, "Kid, in my entire career, I never once pointed my gun at anyone." I know my mouth dropped wide open when I incredibally asked him, "Not once? Ever?"

So, personally, I would rather have the CCDOC guys come to my aid than this guy.

They have a thanksless job, no matter how you look at it. Like previous posters have said, there are assholes on both jobs.

1/08/2006 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:30 Great comeback. You have the mental capacity of an eight year old. Enjoy your long career in the beat car, dummy.

1/08/2006 01:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd rather be a prima donna than a jealous wanna-be.

So FUCK YOU harder!

HaHa!

1/08/2006 04:07:12 AM

I'm sworn CPD for 20 years.....so what is it that I 'wanna-be?"

I just don't think my shit doesn't stink because I'm a police officer.

Correctional officers do a shitty job, and as long as they're not assholes, they get my respect.

You however, you pontificating cocksucker, you get no respect from me. So again, go fuck yourself!

You don't like that, tough shit. If we should ever meet, you can talk it over with me if you want.

1/08/2006 02:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

take it easy tough guy.

1/08/2006 05:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dorothy's party might not have been responsible for the murders but a good question would be as follows: Why does the alderman get to shut down all streets for several blocks and have over 100 policemen assigned to a private party. It was not thrown by the city but by the alderwoman. She should be made to reimburse the city for the cost of security. She should be able to afford it as over 1 million dollars disappeared under her supervision when the building was going to be called the lou rawls center. He (RIP) had enough sense to request that his name not be associated with the building or alderman Tillman. Why arent the feds invesitgating her? Answer = Cause they dont want to upset the natives.

1/08/2006 10:42:00 PM  

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