40 Down, 10 to Go
On Friday, Nebraska became the 40th state to allow concealed carry for it's citizens. From what we can gather, Omaha (the largest city - heck it might be the only city in Nebraska as far as we can tell) will still ban handguns (home rule issue) but many observers think that will fall in the coming years.
40 states. And the national homicide rate keeps falling. Do you think those numbers might just prove everything that the libs and anti-gun forces say about "Dodge City" and mass killings are just out and out propagandist lies?
So we've got 80% of the states with concealed carry laws AND national carry for sworn and honorably retired peace officers. Why not Illinois? Granted, outside of Chicago (and a few overly liberal suburbs), you can own just about anything you want for home defense and going to the range. But Illinois concealed carry for law abiding individuals? How far away is it? And what if they can pass a NATIONAL concealed carry for civilians? Hmmm.
40 states. And the national homicide rate keeps falling. Do you think those numbers might just prove everything that the libs and anti-gun forces say about "Dodge City" and mass killings are just out and out propagandist lies?
So we've got 80% of the states with concealed carry laws AND national carry for sworn and honorably retired peace officers. Why not Illinois? Granted, outside of Chicago (and a few overly liberal suburbs), you can own just about anything you want for home defense and going to the range. But Illinois concealed carry for law abiding individuals? How far away is it? And what if they can pass a NATIONAL concealed carry for civilians? Hmmm.
posted by SCC at 7:05 AM
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It'll end up being Ill CCW except Chicago.
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Now of all the 50 states, only Wisconsin and Illinois flatly refuse to recognize the right of law-abiding citizens to carry concealed firearms for self-protection against criminal attack.
40 states now convey the “right to carry” unless the applicant is a felon or otherwise prohibited from firearm possession.
In addition to the 40 states Vermont and Alaska have NO laws against carrying concealed weapons.
The remaining six states have permit systems but are awarded to people based on the whims of Sheriffs and Police Chiefs.
According to Malcomx's little brother law-abiding, but poor black just are not qualified to protect themselves. Okay I understand that Bolshevik principal!
I think Malcolm is right. Black people should not have hand guns because they can not handle the responsibility. I'm for a NATIONAL concealed carry except for the Africanus race. At least the white race will be able to better protect themselves. Then we can stay out of black peoples business like Mary Mitchell wants.
ALL GUN LAWS DO IS PUNISH AN MAKE CRIMINALS OUT OF THE LAW ABIDING CITIZEN. THE CRIMINAL WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE GUNS JUST LIKE THEY WILL ALWAYS SMOKE CRACK, BEAT THEIR BABY'S MAMA, DRIVE IN VEHICLES WITH NO INSURANCE ETC, ETC, ETC. YOU CAN HAVE MY GUNS YOU LIBERAL BASTARD WHEN YOU PRY THEM FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS.....
Hey Malcolm X's Little Brother:
Please tell us you source(s) for the falling homicide rate, and of course your source(s) for the present prison population and the years you have tracked it!
If you want us to beleive that you can speak intelligently on a subject, then you will have to do much more than "push buttons", and spew conjecture based solely from a distorted view of society after having read little or nothing on the subject.
The homicide rate in this country can not be controlled by any law, because the majority of homicide victims in this country are strangers to their offenders.
So, while your statement that "Comcealed/Carry" laws have nothing to do with the homicide rate is correct, you dont have the first clue as to why!
It seems to me, after reading your posts on this site, that you enjoy more watching the reactions to your baiting post's, than you do trying to get people to see your viewpoint on any given subject!
There are numerous people out there far more intelligent than I, that have written books on the subjects that you try and speak on, books written from all different viewpoints and aspects of these subjects, books written by all different races of people that have first hand experience of life in this country.
If you insist on writing things without knowledge of the subject that you are writing about, I will have to call you on them, and start posting sources that disprove and debunk the nonsense.
Remember, race baiting works both ways. I know that certain people on this earth think that the can not be racist because of their race, but nothing could be further from the truth...just take a good look in the mirror and listen to what you are saying!
1100 homicides in 40 years sounds good to me malcolm. I recall years past when Chicago alone had nearly that many in one calendar year! (Give or take 100)
Maybe,
Montana had so few Homicides because they only have 1 million people in the state. We have 3 times that here in Chicago. Another reason is the Brother factor. Montana has few Brothers in the state. Whenever you have a large number of brothers the crime goes up. Look at Houston. They helped out the hurricane evacuees, most of them Brothers and Sistas and what do they get for their kindness? A higher crime rate. You can spin it any way you want. More Brothers = more crime, less Brothers = less crime. And as for blaming it on the white man look what happens when the white man is not around to pull your sorry asses out of trouble. Remember Katrina. Most of those who were not smart enough to leave were black. They were so used to having their government think for them, like good democrats, that when they had to rely on themselves chaos ensued. Of course that's the white mans fault too.
They should pass out handguns to any and all adults without convictions for violent crimes-especially on the westside. The domestic related homicide out south where the police were alleged to have took too long to respond is a good example why people living in high risk areas need guns more than we need them on Bt. #1611. I'm not commenting on the actions of the police-I'll stand behind them always, but we can't be everywhere, all the time, and there is something immoral about not allowing the most vulnerable in our society the right to protect their lives and the lives of their families. But what do our mayor and govenor know about morality?
I leave the house with my 9mm, and sweetie pie has my 686, with fresh rounds from the range, up in the closet when I'm at work-hoping, praying for a gypsy or burglar to come calling one last time. Save yourself-Vote McCain!!!
Here sits Malcom, in Beverly, educated, well spoken, an obvious racist.
He may or may not be the police, if he is he is probably useless as tits on a tomcat.
Middle class Malcom carries a gun, you betcha he does.
He tells the average black joe, a working man/woman that they are not smart enough to carry a gun.
You are the ultimate, Jessie Jackson clone Malcom. You are a reverse uncle Tom.
My brother, Ha you keep us down.
only a/2 gun team should be allowed to carry handguns.LOL
Malcolm
"Tell, pray, tell,"
What the hell is that supposed to mean? The expression is "pray tell". It doesn't mean "tell, ask God, tell". The usage of "pray" was quite common in medieval England, and was used to mean "please". The term has survived the evolution of the language in its true meaning of "please tell". It seems that it may not survive Ebonics. Don't try to sound smarter than you are. Those of us who read your posts regularly know better.
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C'Mon Lefty. What about the children this will protect? If concealed carry prevents the death of just one child is it not worth it? OH WHY CAN'T YOU THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN? Are you so COLD and UNCARING as to deny a Child the right to exist and a parent to protect that child?
"Secondly, I noticed no one replied to his statement about the use of racial slurs by (as he says European-American) officers. He is correct. Those here cannot condemn him for his usuage of European and African-American if those who condemn him use racial slurs."
Heres a comment...I was born in America, I think its a reasonable assumption that you were too. You are an American. Stop adding crap to the front of that because all it does is promote a country divided. Plus I do not know you linage, you could have a very dark skin tone...such as if you come from India...and still be classified as Caucasian.
GOOD JOB BY 16TH DIST GANG TEAM LAST NITE,GOT A GUY DRIVING UP AND DOWN THE ALLEYS IN A STOLEN CAR,HE HAD A BACK PACK IN FRONT SEAT FILLED WITH (FLASH LIGHT,PRY TOOLS,GLOVES,SKULL CAP,)HE ALSO WAS A CONVICTED BURGLAR..GOOD JOB..
Why is the homicide rate the only thing you considering? Its long been argued that violent crime in general will be reduced when a state enacts CCW because the criminal will never know when that sweet old lady will up a love'n .44 on him. I agree with CCW because its true that criminals will violate the law by any means they can. In my humble opinion their minds are wired differently. But the fact remains that when they want to get a gun they don't go to the local gun shop they buy it off the street, where no one cares what their record is and are only concerned how much money they can make from them. Hmmmm Never thought of it this way but maybe capitalism is the problem.
Where were the alleys?
But the N word in is the dictionary. Euro american isnt.
And the prison population has nothing to do with the homicide rate. Consiquence does. And the consiquence of a shitter robbing a citizen is...HE GETS BLOWN THE FUCK AWAY. I WILL STOP SAYING THE N WORD WHEN PEOPLE STOP ACTING LIKE A N WORD. When will you and yo peoples learn?
Um, help me out. I did not find the N word listed on this page. Please specify what racial slurs were used. And if you do point one out make sure it is not one used by Blacks on a day to day basis to each other. Like when they use the N word on each other.
let the Afro Americans carry spears.
Americans worry about guns too much! Are Americans so scared that they need guns. It seems that more guns, means more trouble! Remember, GUNS CAUSE CRIME! Or is it America is so full of lowlife the crime rate is up? Are most Americans just dirtbags? The Japanese have no use for guns.
Guns cause crime, like flies cause garbage.
A BIG THANKS TO THE 016 GANG TEAM!!NOW, IF THEY WERE ONLY ALLOWED TO WORK IN 016 ALL THE TIME. WHAT A CONCEPT!!!
And most people have no use for the Japanese..
alley around addison/laramie...
$100 for emergency room if not admitted, no more free glasses, copayment now $15, Yet the worthless crossing guards pay peanuts for healthcare and use it the most, besides blowing off work if its snowing, cold, or raining.
To 3:33:19
Japan has no use for guns, because of their prosecution rate, and their superior prison system which actually rehabilites offenders. Look up the word "recidivism" it is almost non-existent in Japan, that is why you can never compare Japan with U.S.
Also, let us not forget the cultural difference between the two countries that could not be more opposite.
Now you can explain to me why there are so many households in this country with guns in them, and so few crimes/accidents in those households?
Try sticking to the real problem, which is human behavior, and the total lack of responsibility created by big city governments all over this country!
Drive outside of Cook County and commit a crime with a gun and see what happens to you! When the law is applied as it was meant to be, it usually works.
Concealed Carry, if it does nothing else, at least provides the common citizen with some amount of being confident that he/she would be better prepared to protect life and property when the Police can not for whatever reason.
When any of you guys can quote statistics about Concealed Carry laws being responsible for higher crime and or more firearm accidents, then maybe you might have an argument....but we know those statistics just dont exist, as a matter of fact, it is just the opposite!
Malcolm, go shove that "european american" shit, it's really getting hold.
I don't refer to anyone using the "n" word. I love the "d" word and the "a" word much better.
And speakig of using the "n" word, in casual conversations I hear it almost exclusively from the mouths of black folk.
If it's offensive coming from the mouth of white folk, it's equally offensive, hell even more, from the mouth of black folk.
Stop the hypocrisy.
And the 40 states that have concealed carry, that represents "MUST ISSUE" states. Six others have "May issue" provisions in the law.
And why do gun grabbers talk about guns like they have a mind of their own? It's the people who wield the weapons and shoot the innocents that are the problem.
The mindset of the asshole who is willing to shoot someone is the problem. It's been against the law to kill others since civilizatin began. But you have assholes and dickheads in the world who shoot people in spite of it. They also like to wear those t-shirts that say "don't snitch."
What a bunch of bullshit! Don't snitch on me when I shoot my gun at some poor kid.
When people stand up and say they've had enough, when people come forward and tell it like it is, when honest people don't have to hide in fear, then things will change. In the meantime, give grandma her pistol and let her shoot the piece of shit coming through her door. Then the piece of shit will think twice.
$100 for emergency room if not admitted, no more free glasses, copayment now $15, Yet the worthless crossing guards pay peanuts for healthcare and use it the most, besides blowing off work if its snowing, cold, or raining.
4/02/2006 04:53:01 PM
YOU POOR DAY BITCH GO TO MIDNIGHTS FAG
$100 for emergency room if not admitted, no more free glasses, copayment now $15, Yet the worthless crossing guards pay peanuts for healthcare and use it the most, besides blowing off work if its snowing, cold, or raining.
4/02/2006 04:53:01 PM
YOU POOR DAY BITCH GO TO MIDNIGHTS FAG
4/02/2006 06:18:29 PM
you must jealous because you won't even see 55 years old. fag it
Off topic-
I have posted an online petition concerning the street sign issue:
http://www.petitiononline.com/
chicago1/petition.html
I'm Still waiting.
crimefile has the right idea!
http://crimefilenews.blogspot.com/2006/01/mugger-protection-act.html
hello, I'm still waiting.
Are all units NOW swiping in ? Wtas the deal...can you swipe in at any location, any time..
There is no swiping, April fool's day is over. The rumors would have had started last month, if this is true. Thanks for the good one and to SCC, thank you for bringing back the blog to it original form. I understand the reason why you changed it and could only tell you, we all knew it would happen.
Thanks again for the wonderful time you have given us in the form of this blog.
just how do the liberals propose to dissarm us?
they can pontifficate, make propositions, enact ledgislation etc.......
but they, sitting in compfort in oak park, evanston, morton grove and affluent parts of chicago, have not the intestinal fortitude to take action.
they rely on men like us.....and we should not, and will not dissarm ourselves!
I still find it completely funny that anybody would fall Lefty's sock puppet routine. It makes Howdy Doody look like Einstein!
Hey Timmy, go to my wishlist and get a pair. They come in a petite size so you can get used to owning a set!
youre so right dooooooog!!!!!
timmy is malcolms litttle shithead brother aka shady aka leftisthebest aka william golding aka shadenfrueden aka french guard aka urinal aka shlemay and all the other radical anti american pro terrorists posts that are presented here.
HEY MALCOLM, GET THE FUCK BACK IN THE CABIN!
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- not LITB, MXLB, etc.... ;-) (u bozo!)
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Sectarian Strife Fuels Gun Sales in Baghdad
By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN - April 3, 2006
BAGHDAD, Iraq, March 29
- With chipped, painted fingernails, Nahrawan al-Janabi picked up a cartridge and slid it into the chamber.
"Like this," she said, loading her new Glock pistol with a loud, satisfying click. "You see, like this."
Akram Abdulzahra now keeps his revolver handy at his job in an Internet cafe. Haidar Hussein, a Baghdad bookseller, just bought a fully automatic assault rifle and has been teaching his wife how to shoot.
Iraq has long been awash in guns. But after the bombing of a sacred Shiite shrine in Samarra in late February, sectarian tensions exploded, and more Iraqis than ever have been buying, carrying and stockpiling weapons, adding an unnerving level of firepower to Baghdad's streets.
The average price for a Russian-made Kalashnikov AK-47 assault rifle, which is perfectly legal here, has jumped to $290 from $112 in the past month, according to several gun dealers. Bullets have climbed to 33 cents each from 24 cents.
Hand grenades, which are not legal but are easy to get, run $95. Pre-Samarra, they were about half that. The swiftly rising prices are one clear sign that weapon sales are hot.
Militia ranks are swelling, too, with growing swarms of young, religious, mostly uneducated men taking to the streets with automatic weapons slung over their shoulders.
Hussein Abdul Khaliq, a foot soldier in the Mahdi Army, a Shiite militia, was guarding a strip of curb in eastern Baghdad the other day and violating several laws in the process — all within sight of a police patrol.
Mr. Khaliq did not have a permit to carry the AK-47 that his militia had issued him. He had many more than the authorized limit of 50 rounds. He was well below the minimum age of 25 for carrying a gun. "Let them try to take it from me," said Mr. Khaliq, a muscular 17-year-old.
The American military has added to the arsenal also, by shipping in hundreds of thousands of firearms and millions of rounds of ammunition, in an effort to equip the fledging Iraqi security forces so American troops will be able to leave.
Iraqi leaders are increasingly worried about this gun glut.
"We collected most of the heavy weapons out there, but we should have collected all the light weapons," said Haider al-Abadi, an aide to the prime minister. "This is not good."
But the reality is that Iraqi politicians have been reluctant to disband militias or to disarm the populace. The Shiite leaders who control the government rely on militias to stay in power. And guns have become so embedded in Iraqi life that they are now as ubiquitous as palm trees.
Under Saddam Hussein, Iraq was one of the most militarized societies. He issued rifles to Baath Party loyalists and set up summer camps for Baathist boys to learn how to kill. One of his favorite photographs was of him firing an antique hunting rifle — with one hand.
After he was toppled, security evaporated, opening the floodgates for looters, carjackers, kidnappers and thieves. Baghdad became a place where the good guys wore masks and the bad guys wore police uniforms; at least that was how it often looked as officers covered their faces to protect their identities and kidnappers posed as police officers. In response, many civilians bought guns, and a frontier mentality set in.
"Maybe I'm kidding myself," said Haidar Hussein, the bookseller who is teaching his wife to shoot. "But having a gun makes me feel safer."
L. Paul Bremer III, the former top American administrator in Iraq, did not step between Iraqis and their guns. He issued an order that essentially upheld Iraqi law: everyone 25 and older with a "good reputation and character" could own one firearm, including an AK-47, the world's most popular killing machine.
As crime rose, insurgent attacks increased and a sense of lawlessness began to creep across the country, more people armed themselves. Office clerks started strapping leather holsters under their armpits, and elderly, veiled women started stashing Kalashnikovs under their beds.
But the destruction of Askariya Shrine in Samarra in February uncorked a different kind of bloodshed and a different kind of fear, ratcheting the personal arms race even higher. Mobs of mostly Shiite men killed Sunni civilians. Some Sunnis fought back, killing Shiites.
Sectarian revenge has become the new common form of violence. Baghdad's homicide rate since the Samarra attack has tripled, to 33 killings per day.
"Baghdad is the battlefield," said Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch, an American military spokesman.
Few killings have been investigated, eroding what little faith there was in law enforcement. The suspicion is growing that officers in the Shiite-controlled police forces are linked to the death squads.
"I don't believe anyone can protect me," said Ms. Janabi, the new Glock owner. "Not the Americans, not my government."
Ms. Janabi, 27, is a television journalist. She is East-meets-West, coming from a religious Shiite family but favoring snug jeans and insisting that women should carry guns — though, she admits, "it makes you feel a little like a boy." A friend in the Interior Ministry showed her how to use her pistol.
Until recently, Ms. Janabi resisted owning a gun, because she felt safe in her neighborhood in central Baghdad, where she lives with her parents in a walled compound. But Samarra "was a spark that turned the sects against each other," she said. "Now, each day, when I go to work, I fear I might not come home." She rides the bus with her pistol in her lap.
Not everyone in Baghdad feels safer carrying a firearm. Some are repulsed by guns, others frightened. Many say that with death squads and suicide bombers running around, what good is one pistol or rifle?
The weapons flow from many places. Arms dealers say good, cheap ammunition comes from Syria, and scratched-and-dented assault rifles from Iran. Several dealers said former Iraqi Army soldiers were a reliable source of grenades.
After Mr. Bremer disbanded the Iraqi Army, Baghdad was transformed into a weapons bazaar, with kiosks offering bargains on pistols, carbines, rifles, shotguns, machine guns and rocket-propelled grenade launchers.
Iraqi law requires gun sellers to have a government permit. Few do.
One seller, who gave his name as Abu Abdullah, said that after Samarra, so many people were buying arms he had trouble filling orders.
"I didn't like to do it," he said, "but I had to raise prices."
Still, he said, business was booming.
Hosham Hussein and Omar al-Neami contributed reporting for this article.
Idiot posters like Malcolm x's lil bro can't seem to understand that the majority of legal gun owners and concealed carriers do NOT commit crimes. Their guns are for protecting themselves and their families.
The guns are used for crime by criminals NO MATTER what LAW is on the books, criminals will still get their hands on guns!
Hey Malcom, why dont you tell us what it is that we dont know about the ghetto we work in? What do we need to know about the community that you think we dont know?
As far as I can tell, most of the honest black folks in the ghetto prefer the white Policeman over the black ones when it comes to getting service/satisfaction, and all of the criminal element hate the white Policeman and dont mind the black ones....this of course is not to say "All" when referring to the different race of Policeman, but certainly the majority.
Just my observations after 12 years on the west side, and public housing.
Maybe you have some revalation about city Policework that I havent learned yet when it comes to policing in the ghetto!, so lets hear it....or will you just produce the usual "Im good, you suck" race baiting comments that you usually post?
Yes we are swipping in. Idiot....... Oh i forgot you know it all.. Your leather probably still squeeks....
STOP THE MADNESS! SAY NO TO GUNS!
stop the madness....say no to guns...thats what those neathendoral men in area 2 gun team say....they don't want no one to have guns ....clods..pieces of %^$#
STOP THE MADNESS! SAY NO TO GUNS!
4/03/2006 09:12:52 PM
Blow me.
Malcolm X's little brother said...
Do most European-American officers care about the African-American community or about a paycheck? I think it s the latter.
I never said I was better than others. Just treat all folks fair and don't think criminal as soon as you spot a face of color. Most European-American officers look at color.
4/03/2006 05:49:41 AM
You have missed you calling in life Malcolm! You sir, are clarevoyant, a true psychic of our times.
You know what most white officers are thinking when they see a face of color! that is truly amazing.
To think your amazing talents are wasted posting silly race baiting little comments on this blog, how sad!
You may have noticed that I used the term "white" instead of "european american", because travelling through Europe, one finds many people of all colors, including black, that were born and raised in France, Italy, etc., for at least the last 100 years or so.
Yes Malcolm, there is a big wonderful world out there with races of people and cultures you have never heard of, probably not because you are stupid, but because you are so content with your ignorant race baiting rants that must make you feel like a "King" in your own little world.
But dont fret now, when your time comes, we will give a wonderful eulogy about you, and how you spent your life doing your best to make a group of people feel guilty for what their ancestors 200 years ago did to your ancestors 200 years ago!
Seems pretty rediculous, doesn't it?
God forbid we should move on and learn from our mistakes.
Guns dont kill people
CHUCK NORRIS kills people
with Seisers permission...that is
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