Ryan Harris Revisited
A reader e-mailed us this link. We actually saw the original Reader article the other day. The Reader is a typical left leaning paper, but they do address a number of interesting points regarding the Ryan Harris investigation. A lot of it ties in with what we know about the case and what we've heard from a bunch of people who actually investigated the case.
Those boys were guilty. They were bicycle thieves who crushed that girl's skull with a brick. And the Department, the State and a whole load of politicians let them off the hook (paying them millions of dollars) while destroying the reputations of a number of decent hard working detectives. Durr was a scumbag piece of shit, but he didn't do what so many in the media and others would have you believe. Durr might have had a hand in the aftermath, but those boys gave him a victim by their actions.
Was it the best investigation in the world? No loose ends? No unanswered questions? Hell, no. But it was a heater case and the dicks did what they could and turned out a halfway decent product in the time they had. And then, they got screwed.
Those boys were guilty. They were bicycle thieves who crushed that girl's skull with a brick. And the Department, the State and a whole load of politicians let them off the hook (paying them millions of dollars) while destroying the reputations of a number of decent hard working detectives. Durr was a scumbag piece of shit, but he didn't do what so many in the media and others would have you believe. Durr might have had a hand in the aftermath, but those boys gave him a victim by their actions.
Was it the best investigation in the world? No loose ends? No unanswered questions? Hell, no. But it was a heater case and the dicks did what they could and turned out a halfway decent product in the time they had. And then, they got screwed.
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
24 Comments:
Miscarraige of justice. Where is the glove?....oh....sorry...I thought this was the OJ case.
This case boils my blood. The truth has never been put forward. And the bottom feeder lawyers are the ones responsible along with the liberal media.
Money talks....Bullshit walks.
Those two kids, like it or not were responsible for Ryan Harris' demise. They gave statements to the dicks that only the offender would know, including how the leaves were folded and placed up her nose.
While initially {possibly} an innocent act of a child(ren)not understanding the consequences of their actions, she was knocked off her bike by the two. They indicated the manner, (rock) which was comensurate with an autopsy finding, the evidence is presented to the ASA and charges are filed.
The evidence presented was the evidence learned thusfar. The dicks did their job and the ASA (as we all know) was the one that approved the charges based upon the facts/evidence known at the time.
But the investigation continued, despite the charges and evidence was submitted to the State Crime Lab, awaiting evaluation.
Weeks later, when the State Crime Lab indicated that they found semen on the body of Harris, the "States Attorney's Office" [EMPHASIS ADDED] noting that the age of the accused would preclude ejaculation, decided to drop the charges at that time pending further evidence.
Now to all you liberal bleeding hearts reading this, this doesn't CHANGE the testimony/evidence of the involvemet of the two juveniles, it merely ADDS more shit to the game and in respect to the prosecution, the STATES ATTORNEYS OFFICE and CPD at that time decided to withdraw the charges as a result of the new evidence (semen) not available at the time of charging [State Crime Lab backlog]
Rather than have it come out in a trial, it was in the best interest to withdraw the charges until the new evidence could be checked out.
Remember at this time all that was determined through the evidence was that there was at least "another" offender in this case. It did NOT excuse the actions of the two boys, merely adding complicity to the case.
ENTER the bottom-feeder, money-hungry, racist, grand-standing attorney's. You know the usual suspects... R. Eugene and Bentley driving, former Corp. Counsel Montgomery who totally distorted the picture.
We all seen the headlines that followed. They were all fed by the money sucking lawyers that sent up smoke and because Durr became involved, made it sound like the kids were framed.
The City, like they do in any pending litigation...refuses to comment.
The silence was interpreted to equal guilt on the part of the police and ASA. The longer it ran the deeper it got.
Don't forget that the involvement of the kids never changed, only complicated. The States Attorney, and City took the politically correct position and threw money at the lawyers in an attempt at damage control.
The rest is history. In the interest of brevity I just need to defend those dept. members that investigated and acted in a reasonable manner putting the evidence forward.
I equate this with Governor Ryan letting people on Death Row loose because DNA (not avail at time of trial did not come back to the convicted individual) All that means was that the DNA was not attributible to the accused for a host of reasons, but it was a trial WITH ALL THE EVIDENCE that convicted them, not just DNA collected from a scene.
POSITIVE DNA puts the offender on the scene.
LACK of offenders DNA merely means it was not found on the scene.
Will Rogers apparently NEVER MET A LAWYER!
End of rant.
Lets not forget. A certain male black officer with about 15 years on testified against the det's. He presently works in TRu. He attended a class at the academy not too long ago when the instructor was the very person who he testified against. How F**ked up is that. They shared the same room for the 8 hour class. Those lil thugs got locked up not too long after they were let go. The settlement $ is probably gone already too. God Bless Ryan Harris. That poor little girl! Hopefully she is an angel smiling under Gods right arm. Thumbs up to the det's. You did the best you could with what you had and all that public pressure breathing down your necks.
100% correct-a-mundo, SCC!! The dicks got it right and the city bailed on them. On top of that, Eugene Pincham extorted millions of $$ into his own pocket by playing the media like the fools they are... printing every stupid, outrageous accusation by the former judge. The city couldn't wait to sweep it under the rug and make it go away. FOOLS!!
Detectives are just that, detectives. They are not the ones who approve charges or prosecute offenders, its the states attorneys office! Detectives gather evidence make an arrest on probable cause and hand it all over to the states attorneys office. If the case was filled with as many holes as everyone alleges, shouldn't it have be obvious to the ASA's? They don't even approved felony charges on a 5 time convicted felon's for retail theft, without officers and witness's jumping through hoops and offenders giving a full video taped confession. How the hell did they just let this supposed injustice just slide by?
Wow, hate to say it but things are not going good overall for policemen, the city and the good Ole USA. I'm disgusted!!!!! Born and raised in the city!! I love this city!!! I have lived a wonderful 49 years with very few bad days but the writing is on the wall. Thank God for the BLOG. I feel that I can get shit off my chest. I wanted to save the world /help people / do the right thing when I came on the job!!! I see no support from anyone!!! We as police people are on our own!!! I saw on the Blog someone stated " I would rather be tried by twelve than carried by six". Wow, that in itself makes you think. Don't try to save the world save yourself!!!! Thanks to the BLOG for letting me get this off my chest!! Nobody else cares to listen!!!! Hello Richie? Phil? Mark? They are for themselves and against the rest of the 99.9 percent who day in and day out try to do an honest job!!!... We are not your cannon fodder or guinee pigs for your own personal gain!!!!! BE SAFE BROTHERS & SISTERS!!!
This debacle was a full fledged cover up. Who was the commander of the youth division at the time of this incident? No other than R.B. who is/was related to Marilyn Miglon (her husband was killed by an unknown gay man) and a bug Daley supporter. The dicks involved interviewed the kids (offenders) and turned them over to youth. If you know anything about this department relative to this investigation, you know that the dicks investigate, the then named YOUTH division charged the juvenile offenders. Bartick and her youth people passed the buck and hence those "bad" detectives wound up wearing the "perverbal jacket. By the way, the transcripts of all the people deposed in this case are on line. All of you who want to truely find out how deep the rabbit hole is should read them.
I was surprised that the READER printed this article, given its left leaning editors and most of its staff.
Beginning with Conroy's fantasy pieces on the Jon Burge campaign ( which I believe is and has been orchestrated by Taylor and Bowman and their funding entities in order to reap themselves a huge jackpot, while undermining complete confidence in Law Enforcement at every level) The Reader has shovelled dirt on Chicago Police at every available opprtunity.
This piece seems to have gotten under the radar and is damning of Talyor, Judge Pincham, and Andre Grant ( The new OPS watch-dog) - seems like them lads smelled a jackpot,under the spineless media and political animals.
My hope is that such an investigative piece receives the due follow-up and one that tells the real story and not the PC spin fairy tale weaved by Lefties in Lexi.
You people work too hard. The very louses doing the undermining get more face-time than Oprah.
Here's one civilian on your side.
With Respect,
Pat Hickey
The city has millions to give away to every animal out there! The police get nothing but headaches!
Why don't they write a book and detail their side of the case?
Lee Miglin wasn't killed by an unknown gay man. He was killed by serial killer Andrew Cunanan. The case was closed back in 1997 with Cunanan's suicide in Florida after he killed Johnny Versace of clothing design fame.
What a case of gross injustice and lack of faith in our detectives.
On a side note, Did anyone also read how Englewood has the highest number of sex offenders????
And what is this, about lack of officer support? I just emailed Supt. Cline about officer safety and he replied back. I spend a lot of time on our memorial, to help our fallen as well as our living!!!! Whatever little we can do...
SCC said...
Lee Miglin wasn't killed by an unknown gay man. He was killed by serial killer Andrew Cunanan. The case was closed back in 1997 with Cunanan's suicide in Florida after he killed Johnny Versace of clothing design fame.
10/27/2006 09:30:13 AM
You (SCC), obviously are an expert in the gay lifestyle !!
Having worked in 005 I had the satisfaction of locking up one of the would-be offenders in Harris's murder. This shitbag has been charged of u.u.w, several batteries, and as of recent beating his neighbor's dog to death. I hope him...I mean his poor excuse of a mother enjoy the millions paid out to her from our great city.
link here
The one boy's mother has already been charged for fraud when she filed bankruptcy and failed to notify the court of the $2 million dollar settlement.
"Anonymous said...
This debacle was a full fledged cover up. Who was the commander of the youth division at the time of this incident? No other than R.B. who is/was related to Marilyn Miglon (her husband was killed by an unknown gay man) and a bug Daley supporter. The dicks involved interviewed the kids (offenders) and turned them over to youth. If you know anything about this department relative to this investigation, you know that the dicks investigate, the then named YOUTH division charged the juvenile offenders. Bartick and her youth people passed the buck and hence those "bad" detectives wound up wearing the "perverbal jacket. By the way, the transcripts of all the people deposed in this case are on line. All of you who want to truely find out how deep the rabbit hole is should read them.
10/27/2006 06:32:05 AM"
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Detectives Investigate and make an arrest. The watch commander of the District approves the probable cause and that charges sought are proper, the A.S.A. approves the Murder Charges. The youth division PROCESSES the arrest and provides the proper paperwork for the juvenile court after all being approved by the WATCH COMMANDER.
The youth division does not and did not decide based upon YOUR investigation whether or not to charge the Juveniles. They process the paperwork.
Get your head out of your ass and stop blaming the Youth Division. They processed what you brought to them. Pass the buck my ass.
Next you will say that Youth is also responsible for charges for your one rock pinch when you were a P.O.
What a copout detective.
You (SCC), obviously are an expert in the gay lifestyle !!
10/27/2006 11:12:40 AM
Or maybe just a cop who knows his job, his job's history, and has some views about where it's headed.
SCC said...
You (SCC), obviously are an expert in the gay lifestyle !!
10/27/2006 11:12:40 AM
Or maybe just a cop who knows his job, his job's history, and has some views about where it's headed.
10/27/2006 04:30:15 PM
Sounds more like you're a back-biter....
The problem was, that the Command Staff and the Tribune readership couldn't fathom Necrophilia. DNA doesn't equate murder, it equates presence, simple as that. For example. . a dead whore with a sex Offender's jizz in her cooch, doesn't mean that the sex Offender killed her. Why do you think Floyd DURR made an "Alford" plea. He was already doing 125, and avoided death, but never admitted to guilt, by doing so. The juvy's cases were nolle'd too quickly. F#$% You. . pay me! DOH!
Better than being a knobgobbler like you.
Zing!
Who is the copper from TRU that testified against the dicks in the Harris case.
U know SCC, I never knew. I just figuered(stupidly), that with the dept. and the union not beefing, that maybe the Dicks made mistakes. This is as bad a cover-up as the Kennedy hit.
Somebody ought to put a packet together w/all the facts and mail it O'Reilly. U know the shit corrupt liberal media in this city ain't going to do a f*ckn thing about this crime.
Pincham; we oughta lynchem!!!
Please remeber judge Colleen Sheehan on election day. She is the judge who said the cops lied when they arrested the Minn. Atny. Generals drunken daughters and let them off.
Lets kick her fat ass off the bench.
Those who "opine" here are some of the brightest people I've come across. The Ryan Harris post and the article from the the Reader was unbelievable. I never heard any of that part of the investigation before. I've told others to read it. A real eye opener about the manipulation that goes on......and the cops always come out looking like the bad guys.
And these scumbag families and lawyers are making millions at our expense. Go figure!
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