Something That Makes Sense
- Every year, 25,000 motorists get tickets -- and fines in the $75-to-$150 range -- for driving on suspended or revoked licenses in Chicago.
Their keep-on-truckin' days are about to end.
Today, the City Council's Police and Traffic committees agreed to seize their vehicles -- even if packed city auto pounds don't have enough room to handle the influx.
Transportation Committee Chairman Tom Allen (38th) championed the crackdown to stem abuses exposed by the Chicago Sun-Times' "Why Are They Driving?" series.
His ordinance would not allow offenders to reclaim their vehicles until they pay a $1,000 "administrative penalty." That's on top of the $160 towing fee, and $10 a day for storage for the first five days and $35 a day every day thereafter.
One would hope that the cars are not released until all fines are paid and proper documentation is acquired (licenses, insurance, valid plates and stickers).
Unfortunately, we can already see Jesse and Meeks lining up against this as "unduly harsh" and "oppressive" on minorities. Anyone want to take us up on that wager?
Unfortunately, we can already see Jesse and Meeks lining up against this as "unduly harsh" and "oppressive" on minorities. Anyone want to take us up on that wager?
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
103 Comments:
I can see some problems with this.
On a personal level, I can understand how this could really screw some of the younger black citizens. We knock them down all the time, and if nothing comes out of it, there are many of us that scratch out a mover to justify the stop (for liability reasons). The end result is sometimes a suspended license, due to X number of movers in a certain time period.
I'm not saying that this is wrong, and I'm not saying it's right, just that discretion is everything on this job.
I work in a very diverse district. While not a traffic cop, I do a lot of traffic (easy and recurring court time$$$). I'll just say that I usually work a sector where the residency status of the offender is of greater import to me then other issues, and my focus on that provides me enough satisfaction.
On a side note, we can already take the cars of people driving on a suspended, under certain conditions. Read the statutes under article 36 for the details, and that would be a seizure under state laws (read as The state gets the proceeds, not king daley), not city ordinance.
Just to be clear, I am all for the city impounding autos for driving on a suspended. Just that I will not do these impounds until after the new contract is signed.
There are a lot of drivers with suspended licenses. This means lots of impound court for us$$$. I just hope this new "tool" is used in the right circumstances.
If they enact this ordinance, suspended drivers will simply take off and run from the police, because they all know we can't chase them anymore.
Funny you should mention Jackass Jackson, read the book, SHAKEDOWN EXPOSING THE REAL JESSE JACKSON, yes you may have to read, but you can get it for about $3.00 used on amazon.com Happy reading.
THIS IS HUGE:
The civil war raging inside the Chicago Fire Fighters Union has turned into a coup.
In an unprecedented move, Local 2 President John Chwarzynski was ousted today by an internal panel that found him guilty of violating the union’s constitution and bylaws.
Looks like the CFD have some balls,where you at SCC?
that is a good idwa since this problem exist in large proportion in minority communites.along with that we have the gun issue , any minority in the desginated area ' of a hi murder rate etc. foid card or not ,no handguns or ammo sold to or purchased, law enforcement exempt, see if that would be called racicst..?? we have more people killed by drunk drivers on our hi ways, i see no ban on cars and alcohol, do you....
Other jurisdictions put repeat revoked drivers in prision!
THIS IS HUGE:
The civil war raging inside the Chicago Fire Fighters Union has turned into a coup.
In an unprecedented move, Local 2 President John Chwarzynski was ousted today by an internal panel that found him guilty of violating the union’s constitution and bylaws.
Looks like the CFD have some balls,where you at SCC?
Home sleeping. What do you want us to do, lead the revolution? We don't want to be firefighters.
I guess when you take old beaters not even worth 1k, your going toget them to pay. Ya right.
Why not just ban cars in Chicago, since they are so tied to crime?
Just like you ban guns for civilians, you can ban their 'whips too.
Everyone can get a segway.
Whats with these dept. ranges? They never let you just come in for practice? How about being open on midnites?
"Looks like the CFD have some balls,where you at SCC?"
Don't give them that much credit probably the biggest whining one-way individuals to walk the earth.
Keep in mind it was FF Local 2 that made the fateful decision yeasr ago to make out of pocket contributions for Healthcare. So all that they do is not so wonderful.
THIS IS HUGE:
The civil war raging inside the Chicago Fire Fighters Union has turned into a coup.
In an unprecedented move, Local 2 President John Chwarzynski was ousted today by an internal panel that found him guilty of violating the union’s constitution and bylaws.
Looks like the CFD have some balls,where you at SCC?
Home sleeping. What do you want us to do, lead the revolution? We don't want to be firefighters.
7/13/2007 06:05:00 AM
WHO CARES ABOUT THE FIREFIGHTERS! THEY WORK 81 DAYS A YEAR OR LESS, WHEN THEN HAD THE STRIKE THEY SHIT ON COPPERS FUCK THEM WE NEED MORE PARAMEDICS NOT ASSHOLE DRUNKEN FIREMEN!
OFF TOPIC:
Just saw on the news that the Fire Union removed their president for fraud, etc..
Some internal board did it. Does our union have a self-policing thing like this?
Yeah, I can see this working from our end....like the great job we all do at removing drunk drivers from the road!!
I thinks it great to take a car from some idiot thats too dumb to get a DL. I work in 007 and more than half of that dump of a neighborhood souldn't be driving acording to law.
Who cares if homeboy get his ride taken. Where does he have to bee at the crack of noon anyways?
12:38 THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE SCREWED IF THIS ORDINANCE DOES NOT PASS IS YOUR WIFE AND KIDS WHEN THE CLOWN THAT DISREGUARDS TRAFFIC LAWS PLOWS INTO THEM AND SENDS THEM TO THE HOSPITAL, NO DL AND NO INSURANCE TAKE THE BUS OR BUY A BIKE
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! HOW WILL ALL THE ILLEGALS GET TO THE LIQUOR STORE IF THEY DONT DRIVE DRUNK I WONT BE ABLE TO DUI THEM I NEED TO RENOVATE MY BASEMENT THE CITY IS TAKING AWAY MY COURT TIME NOOOOOOO!
I think this is a very good idea, however I agree with Sir Donkey that I will not participate in more $$ missions for the city until we have a new contract.
Secondly, they will seriously need to make a change in the policy of securing your weapon at impound court. It will become more crowded, and with alot of highly problematic clientele, (and I use that term very loosely) that officer safety is going to become a greater issue.
Hopefully this gets done right.
more money for the olympics
I think that it is great. We can impound vehicles for the tiniest amount of cannabis, which, by the way is a lesser charge than driving on a suspended license.
Also, it's a tool we can use against the gang bangers who don't bother to get their license situation straightened out. In 007 the gangsters take for granted that the police are going to let them slide on the suspended license. So why not impound their vehicles every time they swallow rocks on us or use the vehicle to transport the money from their drug sales? I am all for it!!!!!!!
This would make sence if it wasn't just another scheme to grab money. What would be better is if they had to prove they have a drivers license and insurance and registration to get their car back, all in their name not "AUNTY". No doccuments, crush the car. Too many times these cars are rentals and when we start crushing rental cars the rental companies will stop renting to unlicensed motorists.You should also have to show proof of a license when purchasing a vehicle, for crying out loud I have seen signs advertising "No license OK" on Cicero ave.
It is about time.
It sounds like a great idea, but where do you put the cars? Does some Alderman have an impound lot available?
ok boys and girls in blue sign out an extra ticket book today and tow the cars of everyone driving on a suspended license
Hey range guys, What is the trigger pulls on the DAO guns carried by us? The K-trigger? The Glocks and Springfields? Is there really a big difference?
If this is passed, there wont be any cars on the street on the west side.
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What’s going on in 020th district ??
PO’s have been bailing out of there faster than anywhere.
Rumor mill has it, an afternoon SGT had such as fall out with the W/C that he experienced a possible heart attack? Is she that bad? PO’s leaving 3rd watch to other districts faster than a speeding bullet.
Midnight W/C threatening no activity, no time due. We hear they have a sheet with activity numbers in the W/C office which comes out when PO’s ask for time due? Is this true? And for those who are border line cant even get a straight answer until a day before even when asking weeks in advance.
Is it true that certain females get just about anything they ask? ie: start time, car, partner, no partner?
Early out? If I were there, I would always have my trusty voice recorder running. Let them tell me no time due because Im low on numbers. I thought putting the uniform on, getting to work every day, answering calls in a timely manner is required by general order, but where is the part about activity?
You guys must be real slow over there, have a bunch of goofs on the watches, or just some bosses that need to retire.
And to think, I was considering bidding there. Forget it. I have enough drama here.
Sweet. for two reasons. 1. now there are a TON more cars off the street. and more importantly, 2. there will be a TON more knuckleheads fleeing and driving into trees. Quick question, though...how is an illegal worker suppossed to drive to work? Surely there is some sort of amnesty program or something....(if you cannot see the sarcasm in this statement, or if you agree with it please punch yourself in the head with a rock)
To Drive A Vehicle Is A PRIVILEGE And NOT A RIGHT! If You Prove Yourself Irresponsible You Should Not Be Able To Drive Until You Can Prove To Be Competent Enough To Do So. Obviously Someone Who Gets So Many Tickets To Get their License Suspended/Revoked Cannot Drive And Has Total Disreguard For The Rules Of The Road And/Or Does'nt Care About Showing Up For Their Court Date(s). Their License Is Suspended/Revoked Because They Have Proven They Cannot Drive And If Anyone Caught Driving During Their Suspension/Revoked Deserves To Get Their Car Impounded. This Is A Perfect Repercussion For Those Who KNOWINGLY Take That Risk.
This is not a race issue. Anybody driving a vehicle should have a valid drivers license. Period! End of story. This is a small but meaningful victory for those of us who use our correct Social Security number, have current license plates, have auto insurance, and valid drivers licenses. Make people accountable for themselves.
"I can see some problems with this.
On a personal level, I can understand how this could really screw some of the younger black citizens"
So certain people do not have to obey the law? Funny I was raised to obey the law. Period. If I fucked up, I suffered the consequences. All of these assholes(6-303/6-101'ers_)are IN OUR WAY out here. Just think of how easier the ride to work will be!
Off Topic:
FROM STNG WIRE REPORTS / Sun Times . .
Stepping outside for a breath of fresh air turned painful for a Chicago Fire Department captain after he was attacked by two pit bulls in front of a Far South Side fire station in the Roseland neighborhood Wednesday.
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That's why Fire Fighters should carry fucking guns also.
This should also extend to those who drive withour a licsense.
I was in traffic court the other day. The judge must have had 20 cases of “no license, and a speeding ticket.” The judge would give them a $100.00 fine and 6 months supervision.
These people told the judge that they could not get a license. All of these people were Hispanic. Two others were black. The judge didn’t offer them a chance to pay the $100.00 fine or supervision! He gave them a continues and told them they had to get a license and their fine would he $500.00.
So, some Hispanic can still drive, pay his $100.00 fine and kill some poor person who is just walking down the street. O’ ya no insurance was a $50.00 fine no matter how many time you already plead guilty!!!!
I love this ordance!!! Now we can take the car!! It’s the same as taken a guy from a gang banger. Now, take the cars from the Hispanic and Pollock’s so my kids and wife can be safe on the streets. So I don’t have to pay the $500.00 deductible for non-insured immigrant driver. Thank you Alderman, you got this one right!!
It will be a pleasure to enforce this ordinance…not for the city…but for our families!!!
sir donkey, esq said...
I can see some problems with this.
On a personal level, I can understand how this could really screw some of the younger black citizens. We knock them down all the time, and if nothing comes out of it, there are many of us that scratch out a mover to justify the stop (for liability reasons). The end result is sometimes a suspended license, due to X number of movers in a certain time period.
NO!!! NO NO NO NO NO!!!! Jeezz!!!! 1st, you can stop a car for tons of reasons other than traffic. Indicate it on a contact card. Knew the driver, gang colors, threw what looked like signs, etc. come on. 2nd...Even if the stop is for trafffic, you don't have to write a ticket anyway!!! Fill out the Statictal study. Indicate the reason stopped, thus you can still use discretion.
Anyway, writing tickets does not result in punishment....A FINDING OF GUILTY RESULTS IN PUNISHMENT. THAT IS HANDED DOWN BY THE COURT!!! Good lord, sir donkey esq, if you CANNOT REMEMBER (wink wink) how to get a traffic case thrown out, cannot figure out how to fill out a contact card or statistical card, and cannot live with yourself for writing ticktes, then I have 2 easy solutions 1- stop doing policework if you cannot stomach it and 2...CAPS. Inside for you, sir donkey, esq. God forbid you write the paper on something that I'm involved with!! Less law knowldege, more practical police knowledge could help you a tad...Please tell me you work north!!
Looks like the CFD have some balls,where you at SCC?
Home sleeping. What do you want us to do, lead the revolution? We don't want to be firefighters.
7/13/2007 06:05:00 AM
I do!! If it wasn't for my asthma, my inability to drive big vehicles, and my extreme fear of even low heights (God, I love oxymorons!!), I'd sign up today!!!
If you read the Tribune article an officer from 006 is quoted as saying, a driver can just drive away after you ticket him (for revoked , suspended, or none)Is this guy for real?
Just think how happy Luberman is....his ridership will increase dramatically!! mabye the CTA will be in the red after this ordinance passes....It's about time...I have been on this job 14 years and finally they pass an ordinance to seize cars of suspended / revoked motorists....the State police have been doing it for years..
Unfortunately, we can already see Jesse and Meeks lining up against this as "unduly harsh" and "oppressive" on minorities...
I say if it happens to be minorities that can't seem to keep their s*** in order, that's just too damn bad.
When the City lets me go to an impound hearing thats when I start to impound cars for suspended licenses. Until then the City can pound salt on this issue. Spread the wealth City.
after reading that, since when did operating a vehicle become like driving a go-kart, you know, no license-plates- city sticker -insurance -working lights-signals.thats wha dez offenders think an automobile is is just an adult go-kart
if you start to impound their vehicles then they will be doin drive-bys shootin from the windows of the cta buses
god created firemen so the police could have heroes.
Those who haven't heard, K9 Handler Bob Rawa suffered a brain aneurysm Thursday night/Friday morning on the way home from a side job. He is currently at UIC hospital. The doctors did all they could, but he will be removed from life support this evening after 1700 hours.
Godspeed brother.
I think it is a great idea. Tow the cars, make everyone with suspended DL pay the $$$$. You know they will pay to get the $1,000 box chevy out of the pound because it has $5,000 worth of rims and tires on it.
The problem I see though, we are already short PO's in the districts, this will put a lot of cars down for traffic reasons.
Whats with these dept. ranges? They never let you just come in for practice? How about being open on midnites?
7/13/2007 07:38:00 AM
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academy is open on midnights officer ryan is there. good guy.
"K9 Handler Bob Rawa suffered a brain aneurysm Thursday night/Friday morning on the way home from a side job. He is currently at UIC hospital. The doctors did all they could, but he will be removed from life support this evening after 1700 hours."
So sorry to hear this, my condolences to his family and partners.
You'd have to hook most of your traffic stops in 011.
"I can see some problems with this.
On a personal level, I can understand how this could really screw some of the younger black citizens"
You have it all wrong, the law doesn't screw young black citizens, the young black citizens who disobey/disregard the law are screwing themselves, all by themselves, with no effort by anyone else....
rumor has it that DICKman from 020 has been reassigned??? to 007??? hahahahhahahahahahahhahahhaha!!god help 007!! Capt MR has a IQ buddy!
So now that the city is deciding to tow and store all of these EXTRA vehicle. Who's uncle is going to get the city contracts for ALL of these additional tows and storage. Another rip off n the making. lets see more pounds and more personnel, more complaints of damages and thefts from vehicle......
Sir Donkey, Have u ever been hit by one of the irresponsible individuals who continue to drive with susp/revoked dl. Dig deep into your pockets, pay for a rental,tow, and your deductible and see how it feels. You mention young male blacks... well its sad to say the city needs to teach them about consequences. Preach to all the families who have lost a loved one.... one third of all fatalities are committed by these irresponsible drivers. I don't care who benefits financially as long as these people pay a consequence for their irresponsible behavior.
I am deeply sorry for Rawa's family, he is a great guy,Gods grace be on you BOB.He is one of the people that made the academy fun.
There is an estimated 250,000 Illegal Aliens operaing motor vehicle in the State of Ill. The greater majority of those drivers are in and around the Chicago area. I have only one word "CHARGE"!
God made fireman so there would be a steady supply of scab tradesmen. Funny how that "Brotherhood of the Barrel" bullshit goes out the window when it comes to taking another man's union job.
Off Topic:
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/index?section=news&id=3270419
Chicago Police Officer Sentenced to 5 years in Iowa (ABC7 Video)
WHO CARES ABOUT THE FIREFIGHTERS! THEY WORK 81 DAYS A YEAR OR LESS, WHEN THEN HAD THE STRIKE THEY SHIT ON COPPERS FUCK THEM WE NEED MORE PARAMEDICS NOT ASSHOLE DRUNKEN FIREMEN!
7/13/2007 08:11:00 AM
Now, Now, remember the water wasters are just like the flakey uncle at holiday dinners, they may be flakey but their still part of the family. Don't really care for them but we can't toss them aside either! Remember, in numbers there is power. O Yeah! I forgot about FLOP......NEVERMIND.
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What’s going on in 020th district ??
7/13/2007 11:35:00 AM
GET REALLLLLLLLLLLL......MOST of us have done more POLICE work in 1 tour than six periods of 20th District malarkey!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get stroked!@
Anonymous said...
god created firemen so the police could have heroes.
7/13/2007 04:33:00 PM
NO, the SUPREME ONE did so in order for policemen to relieve their stress and the stress of the wives of firemen while the waterboy was away!!!!
you can now go to the mall on 26th street and buy a drivers license for fifty bucks-ask munoz.this ordinance just made him,his family,mexican mafia and latin kings rich.this is cheeecago essey!!!
All of these assholes(6-303/6-101'ers_)are IN OUR WAY out here. Just think of how easier the ride to work will be!
7/13/2007 01:14:00 PM
You better hope they don't start impounding cars for violations of the English laguage! Sorry, but that was just too easier.
Dear Scc,
Please View your attachments to Channel 7 Chick Goudie Story about Mike Mette Chicago Police Officer, that is getting railroaded by Iowa court. Very good view.
Thanks
It won't have any impact what-so-ever, on the minority or poor citizens.
Most of the Cops I work with won't do it, because its too much work.
As a result they'll let "Joe" go, and pull over a coppers family member or a legit citizen and write them multiple movers because they have a valid D.L. and insurance.
So the credible tax paying citizen's of Chicago get screwed again!
So meeks and jesse can kiss my ass!
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Oh yeah, by the way get ready to have water meters installed in your ($500,000/2BR/built on a slab/northwest-side)homes. Also enjoy your water bill increasing to pay for this so-called improvement!
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Oh..but at least we might enjoy hosting the olympics..while having to watch in on T.V. from our homes,because not enough clout to get tickets!
Who cares if this makes the city a few bucks....it will make it less likely that you will be hit by one of these knuckle-heads and have to pay out your $500 deductible for them not having insurance let alone a license.
Driving is a privilege not a right! White, Black, Brown or Yellow get your sh*% together and you can drive. My family has two cars and I pay $1900 a year for insurance, city stickers and plate registration. If you can't afford the necessary requirements then take CTA...end of story!
BE READY FOR TONS OF CR#s WHEN YOU TOW AND IMPOUND VEHICLES.WILL CITY BACK US UP WHEN MUTTS MAKE FALSE ALLEGATIONS OF RACIAL PROFILING AND THEFT OF PROPERTY THAT WAS NEVER IN VEHICLE TO BEGIN WITH?CITY WILL COLLECT MONEY FROM FEES THEN LET US HANG OUT TO DRY!!F**K THEM!NO CONTRACT,NO VEHICLE IMPOUNDMENT COURT DATE-YOU GOT TO BE CRAZY.SAVE YOURSELVES THE AGGRAVATION-DONT DO SH*T.NINTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE VEHICLES ARE NOT OWNED BY THE MUTT ANYWAY-DO YOU THINK HE WILL CARE?THEY WILL JUST RENT ANOTHER ONE FROM SOME HYPE FOR A ROCK OR TWO,WHILE YOU ARE STILL DOING THE PAPERWORK!
God Bless Bob Rawa.
Actually, driving while suspended should be mandatory jail time a/k/a no I-Bonds!!! There's going to be a lot of abandoned cars out there! Auctions will be booming but so will auto theft. I'd forget the steep fines and stick to a jail policy. This legislation is more about generating income for the city.
just take a car away a day.
that's all.
then ray ray and pookie and wilhemina can't run over children, annoy everyone with their sounds or sell they dope with curbside service.
um....no one should take your gun from you, not domestic court, not impound court.
that's what ankle holsters are for ya jag
OFF TOPIC: GOT TO CHANNEL 7 NEWS AND CHECK OUT THIS BS THAT OFFICER FROM 11TH DISTRICT MIKE METTE IS DEALING WITH!!! YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE THIS SHIT!!!!!!
HERE IS AN IDEA WHY DON'T WE TAKE DALEYS CARS WHEN THEY ARE PARKED ILLEGALLY?
Anonymous said...
Those who haven't heard, K9 Handler Bob Rawa suffered a brain aneurysm Thursday night/Friday morning on the way home from a side job. He is currently at UIC hospital. The doctors did all they could, but he will be removed from life support this evening after 1700 hours.
Godspeed brother.
7/13/2007 04:40:00 PM
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too bad, he was a nice guy.
What’s going on in 020th district ??
PO’s have been bailing out of there faster than anywhere.
Rumor mill has it, an afternoon SGT had such as fall out with the W/C that he experienced a possible heart attack? Is she that bad? PO’s leaving 3rd watch to other districts faster than a speeding bullet.
Midnight W/C threatening no activity, no time due. We hear they have a sheet with activity numbers in the W/C office which comes out when PO’s ask for time due? Is this true? And for those who are border line cant even get a straight answer until a day before even when asking weeks in advance.
Is it true that certain females get just about anything they ask? ie: start time, car, partner, no partner?
Early out? If I were there, I would always have my trusty voice recorder running. Let them tell me no time due because Im low on numbers. I thought putting the uniform on, getting to work every day, answering calls in a timely manner is required by general order, but where is the part about activity?
You guys must be real slow over there, have a bunch of goofs on the watches, or just some bosses that need to retire.
And to think, I was considering bidding there. Forget it. I have enough drama here.
7/13/2007 11:35:00 AM
Do you really think that everyone in the 020th district doesn't know who you are and that you work in 020? You are dumber than you look!
to sir doney,
"I can understand how this could really screw some of the younger black citizens. We knock them down all the time"
Anyone who disregards the law, even the traffic laws by driving without a license, suspended or revolked deserves to be "knocked down" and put in the court system.
It's not about black or white, it,s about people driving with no license which means no insurance doing what ever the heel they want.
It's about doing your job and keeping the roads safe for the law abiding tax paying citizens.
In my opinion if one has so mant movers that the state feels the need to suspend ones license, they dont belong on the road!!!
Keep in mind that many more poeple are killed each year by traffic law offenders than murder by any means.
Take two steps back and pull your big head out of your ass.
To 8:11 am------How did the Firemen s--- on the Cops during their strike? Did they not lead the way in this state for public employees to get collective bargaining? Sounds like your wife ran off with a fireo.....
Also awarded today, the city counsel awarded a $40 Million contract to install water meters in all buildings in Chicago.
Right now I pay almost $300 twice a year, I am sure this will skyrocket. If anyone thinks their water bill will go down I will sell them the top 10 feet of Lake Michigan. This ordinance is a bone for the Plumbers Union who are one of the few that support Richie, because they have a "prevailing wage" contract and all those hired trucks.
Just read an article on ABC7's website about one of your guys getting convicted and sentenced to 5 years in prison in Iowa for defending himself against a drunk, combative assailant. What are they smoking out there?
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=5478651
My prayers are with Patrolman Mike Mette and his family.
Retired ISP officer
Instead of taking their cars which are often shitboxes and can be replaced, hows about putting their asses in jail for a few months?
Its pretty hard to drive from inside a cell in County
These maniacs drive with impunity and disregard for safety and the law
Happily retired old fart
Anonymous said...
When the City lets me go to an impound hearing thats when I start to impound cars for suspended licenses. Until then the City can pound salt on this issue. Spread the wealth City.
7/13/2007 03:19:00 PM
I WHOLE HEARTEDLY AGREE! When they stopped inviting me to impound hearings I stopped impounding. As I remember my partner and I were making the City about 7500 a period. We got to put some hours on the books, and a little for the OT check. Now......
I think the trigger pull on a regular DAO gun is about 10 to 12 lbs. K-trigger about 6 lbs.
THIS IS BEYOND INCREDIBLE, EVEN THE MEDIA SEE THE COMPLETE RAILROAD JOB.
HONESTLY,BEING THE POLICE IN AMERICA NOW IS DANGEROUS. THIS IS AN OUTRAGE:
CPD officer sentenced to 5 years in Iowa
July 13, 2007 - A Chicago Police officer has been sentenced to five years in prison. He says he was defending himself against a drunken attacker while off-duty in Iowa. A judge in Dubuque, Iowa, says the police officer should have simply run away.
REMEMBER THIS THE NEXT TIME YOU ARE GETTING FELONIOUSLY ASSAULTED,THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!
THIS IS BEYOND INCREDIBLE, EVEN THE MEDIA SEE THE COMPLETE RAILROAD JOB.
HONESTLY,BEING THE POLICE IN AMERICA NOW IS DANGEROUS. THIS IS AN OUTRAGE:
CPD officer sentenced to 5 years in Iowa
July 13, 2007 - A Chicago Police officer has been sentenced to five years in prison. He says he was defending himself against a drunken attacker while off-duty in Iowa. A judge in Dubuque, Iowa, says the police officer should have simply run away.
REMEMBER THIS THE NEXT TIME YOU ARE GETTING FELONIOUSLY ASSAULTED,THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!
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Is there more to this?
If true. What's going on? Can POs' write letters to the gov for a pardon.
Just to let anyone know, they're still letting visitors in to see Rawa. We went this evening, around 2300 hours. There wasn't any family there at that time, but in case anyone wanted to stop in and say a prayer.
To the narrowminded, shallow coppers out there who have to slam firemen,every other profession and every copper outside and within the CPD nowadays GROWUP.
The members of the CFD stuck together and took action against the President of Local 2, effectively removing him from office for failure to do his job.
Too bad the crybaby backstabbers on CPD can't do anything to make things better.
Coppers don't even attend FOP meetings,vote or stick together anymore.
Coppers do backstab,trick,whine and blame everyone else for their ills.
Man has this job gone to shit in less than two decades.
That story is true.
Wow, stop defending yourself, and retreat while being battered by an drunken asshole.
A drunk college student who got a DUI after this is the victim.
Hey 24dist, 23dist, 18dist every Iowa student nail into the slammer while they're walking the street drunk this fall and put em in with real criminals for a night.
ISP, help out and start hammering those Iowa drivers.
May the Lord give Officer Bob Rawa all that he needs in his time of great need!!!
OFF TOPIC:
Did anyone catch the fact that Rio De Janiero had 6000 murders last year? Damn, I don't think they are gettign the 2016 Olympics with 6000 homicides a year.
God bless Rawa and his family....Was the best instructor I had in the academy, and had me laughing my ass off every time I ate with him at ricobenes....He's definately good people!!
No impounds...let them dive around like a bunch a drunkin idiots. Then when they slam into some political peice of shit. Let them deal with what the brought in.
Better yet....have the Iowa police come in and arrest them.
No Numbers. No Work. Nothing.
Answer your calls and thats it. Write paper for eveything!!!
Stick together for once.
Anonymous said...
Also awarded today, the city counsel awarded a $40 Million contract to install water meters in all buildings in Chicago.
Right now I pay almost $300 twice a year, I am sure this will skyrocket. If anyone thinks their water bill will go down I will sell them the top 10 feet of Lake Michigan. This ordinance is a bone for the Plumbers Union who are one of the few that support Richie, because they have a "prevailing wage" contract and all those hired trucks.
7/13/2007 10:42:00 PM
MORE CLOUTED TRUCKS AGAIN! HIRED TRUCK PART 2 COMING TO A WARD NEAR YOU! THEY WILL INSTALL METERS HOW MANY WATER PIPES WILL THE CLOWNS DAMAGE? HOW MANY HOMES WILL BE FLOODED DUE TO POOR WORKMANSHIP? THANKS DALEY JAGOFF HOW ABOUT MORE HYDRANT CAPS THAT CANNOT BE REMOVED!
Rio murders: A few years back the police there actually had squads shooting the street rats. Hmmmm, seemed go work!
I've been wondering why this hasn't happened long ago, but whatever - it's here now. I just hope it gets enforced. Losing a $500 car is a serious problem, if all you had for a car was $500. This also shifts some of the problem over to the enablers and helpers that otherwise stay out of sight. Now you have more reason to be careful who you loan your car to. If your cousin is a drugdealing sleazebag, maybe you don't want him driving your car. And that's how it should be.
On another note - way to go sheriffs on the dogfighting bust in South Holland. Thank you!
absolutely right. The liberal govenment of this City makes another stupid decision. There will be more traffic pursuits than ever , with Turret-Heads fleeing the Po-Po for being suspended, but PO-PO can't chase them. Another bright idea by the same liberal DemocRATS that brought us CAPS.
God bless you Bob, you were and will always be a great guy.
As for PO Mette's situation, I'm nonplussed. There is no accurate way to truely describe this insanity.
And as to the less important matters, such as my critics over the impound issue: I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS ORDINANCE!
There are plenty of officers out here that always write a "probable cause mover" to justify their stop, because the brass and the academy have these newer kids scared shitless over getting beefs/sued/fired for not "Documenting" every damn thing they do. I am not one of those officers. I am advocating some discretion with the "probable cause mover", such as was listed by 2:10 (you jackass). Any copper worth his salt can justify knocking down any car at any time. Most working coppers (of which I consider myself) will do this numerous times a day, shake the car and driver, and see what falls out. I am meerly suggesting that if nothing falls out, don't sandbag the driver with a "probable cause mover".
I drive through several drug spots when I visit my parents place. I get knocked down fairly often by coppers looking for dope. If I wasn't a copper, and got a ticket each time this happened, I'd be fucked.
On a side note, I am Sir Donkey, of Donkey City (025 - DUI capitol of Chicago). Branch 2 on Fridays is basically a 25th district roll call, so please don't preach to me about traffic enforcement or work ethic, Jackass.
And by the way, this ordinance will not significanty effect the number of times mr. no license or insurance wipes out my wife or kids. Lifting residency will.
On a side note, I am Sir Donkey, of Donkey City (025 - DUI capitol of Chicago).
Sir Donkey?? you better have more than 12 years on the job if you claim to be him. If not, you are a wannabe
I HAVE A GREAT IDEA NO IBONDS KEEP THEM FOR A DAY IN A CELL INVENTORY THERE CASH.
I FORGOT WATCH COMMANDERS ARE SCARED THAT A PRISONER WILL KILL HIM SELF AND HAVE TO TYPE SOME PAPER.
WE TALK HARD BUT WE ARE SOFT AS PUPPY SHIT. FROM THE LAZY PPO SCARED TO FIGHT TO THE STREET DEPUTY AFRAID TO OVERIDE THE STATE TO CLINE SCARED TO SAVE AN OFFICER IN IOWA.
Anonymous said...
Yeah, I can see this working from our end....like the great job we all do at removing drunk drivers from the road!!
7/13/2007 08:45:00 AM
DUI drivers have nothing to fear in Chicago. DUI is not a crime but a pain for most officers. Too much paperwork. Then impound the car! That is pushing it for most beat officers. Looks good on paper but in reality, most officers will ignore this just like they ignore DUI. Such a shame.
Why would anyone with an ounce of sense think that Sup. Cline could "save" the officer in the Iowa situation?
Your not 15 anymore, some things just can'rt be made to "go away"
it's about fucking time
Anonymous said...
Why would anyone with an ounce of sense think that Sup. Cline could "save" the officer in the Iowa situation?
Your not 15 anymore, some things just can'rt be made to "go away"
7/15/2007 02:17:00 PM
NOBODY THINKS THAT
What they do expect is a modicum of leadership and decency on the Superintendents behalf. Phil could make a strong public statement on the character of Officer Michael Mette stating his strong moral character,good solid work ethic,lack of disciplinary problems while a Chicago Patrolman. Phil could also directly state as the Commander in Chief of the nation's second largest police department that he is incredulous and at a loss for words as to the injustice that the judicial and legal system has brought to bear upon this innocent officer.
That would be the minimum expected, there are always backdoor phone calls to the Chief of Dubuque,States Attorneys Office,media,politicians,etc.
Phil should also be interviewed indepth by the air media in Chicago and Iowa and air his disagreement with the verdict.
Nothing more than a True Leader of Men would do.
But hey,
We already know what Phat Phil's Legacy is going to be. It is so silent I can hear a pin drop.
sir donkey, esq is a phony. NOT a REAL 025 guy
9:06
Fuck you, Gibbons!
no reach-around for you tonight.
People with a suspended or revoked driver's license can apply for and get a restricted driver's permit or a judical driving permit, often called a RDP and JDP respectivly. Having done alot of DUI enforcment I have noticed the public defender does not offer to obtain these licenses for people while private attorney's often do. In over five years I have only stopped one person in Chicago with a JDP or RDP. People from the rich suburbs always have them!
Illegal immigrants can and always have been able to get an Illinois driver's license.
Order a tow for an impoundment and see how long it takes before the city contractor shows up. It might be hours or even a day. People steal the cars from the lots. Try putting it in the port - you can't. The ports are full of the supervisors cars. One watch commander only allows his car in the garage! He doesn't want it banged by another car door. Who is going to tow all these cars and do the paperwork. The disticts are short now. Why have all the cars down on impoundments?
People drive with no license everywhere. It's just as bad in the suburbs.
Is the pound going to make them get valid plates, a city sticker, and insurance. NO! Drive by pound 2. For 20 dollars you have one of the private tow trucks sitting outside the pound tow your car out of the pound. They you don't need insurance to have your car towed and the people drive away.
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