More Questions About the Memorial
Just a point or two from the comments:
- Really This dept has raised Millions yet the land was free. Once again we are fools.
Are they bringing in that much money that they can have a paid position to manage the park? I mean don't get me wrong if they are paying Phil lets say 20 grand a year but he can bring in 100 grand in donations thru his connections then its well worth the money. They have a hole list of people on the honorary committee but that doesn't mean they are actually managing anything just a name on a plaque. They need someone to run the day to day operation.
The Park itself is paid for. Didn't the City donate the land? So there is no note and we're pretty sure there are no taxes on a park.
The Memorial is built. Every bit of concrete, mortar, steel and marble belongs to the Memorial.
Maintenance involves what? Cutting the grass weekly? Paying the water bill every month for the fountain? Spring cleaning? We know they don't spend money on security as taggers proved earlier.
Even if none of this is covered by the Park District which maintains the entire lake front, how much could this be? There is no "day-to-day" operation of a Memorial.
Now does everyone see why there are questions arising? Why an accounting is being demanded? Why resentment is building? There ought to be an endowment of some sort for maintenance and then wrap up the Memorial organization. Anything further in the way of fundraising for disabled coppers ought to be brought to the members of the Department and presented as a new mission instead of twisting this one into something it never was.
The Memorial is built. Every bit of concrete, mortar, steel and marble belongs to the Memorial.
Maintenance involves what? Cutting the grass weekly? Paying the water bill every month for the fountain? Spring cleaning? We know they don't spend money on security as taggers proved earlier.
Even if none of this is covered by the Park District which maintains the entire lake front, how much could this be? There is no "day-to-day" operation of a Memorial.
Now does everyone see why there are questions arising? Why an accounting is being demanded? Why resentment is building? There ought to be an endowment of some sort for maintenance and then wrap up the Memorial organization. Anything further in the way of fundraising for disabled coppers ought to be brought to the members of the Department and presented as a new mission instead of twisting this one into something it never was.
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posted by SCC at 5:04 AM
97 Comments:
PHIL CLINE IS A THIEF AND WILL NOT GET ONE DOLLAR OF MINE. I AM ALSO GOING TO CALL THE SHAKMAN PEOPLE ABOUT BEING FORCED TO DONATE MONEY IN SERGEANT SCHOOL.
Sneed has been silent the last few days,I am waiting for the media to investigate this scam and expose the phoney phat phil.
Why is everything a fucking conspiracy on this board? Everyone talks this great game. 'This is a brotherhood' most of us say. Then we cry that we were strong-armed out of $1-10 from our checks. If this is truly a brotherhood we should have given without question. The problem is that it's all about 'me.' Why not 'me?' Brotherhood my ass! With all the shit going down in 011 we worry about Phil drawing a salary from the memorial. Of all the things to worry about. 011 is a powderkeg people. Have you ever heard of priorities? And no, I'm not a two-year wonder. Be safe.
Why isn't there a financial statement or an Annual report available just like annual reports that companies distribute to their stockholders?
Even Wal-Mart, one of the biggest companies in the world has an annual report yearly complete with financial statements, salaries of all Members of the board, expenses and all other pertinent financial data! It's even on-line for public viewing on the shareholder website!!! Check it out sometime!!
This is all mandated by the Federal Government and audited by an indepedent accounting agency to help prevent FRAUD and WASTE!
It is seems to me that there is alot going on behind the scenes of this Memorial Fund that we as members who have an interest and really care about should know about!
Hell, even the Pension fund puts out an annual report for all to see! I read it all of the time because it affects me and my future!
Would you put money in a bank without checking out the balance? I believe the answer would be NO!
What's wrong with getting an annual report from and about the CPD Memorial fund?
Why because they are hiding certain activites and taking care of certain people that's why!!!!
Think about that the next time you contribute to a fundraiser of any kind for this department and this city!!!!!
SMELLS FISHY and it ain't LAKE MICHIGAN FISH!!
8/13/2007 05:17:00 PM
If they had to do it "legit" like business, they would be out of business, that's why!
Before everyone starts going apeshit let's do some research. Call the DC, NYPD and LAPD memorials. Hell, call Cleveland's PD memorial. See how they're doing things. I think you'll be surprised. Then we can move on....
My name is Jimmy and I've got a secret.
I don't understand all the complaining and finger pointing - It took over a hundred years to get a memorial honoring men and women who gave their lives for the city. It seems more and more people could care less if a cop dies but instead they're out there looking for an easy buck in some lawsuit. The man who spearheaded the same memorial deserves a vacation and a lot more but instead of some jerk cops - THAT WERE OFF DUTY - he no longer serves at the PLEASURE of the mayor. Too bad people just don't get it. I hope the same people are not hypocrites and have the cell phone of some gange banger - instead of calling a cop, call them.
I was scammed, you were scammed. It is just a scam that played on our emotions. If you think about it, very similar to the DOC, lots of pomp and circumstance.
The memorial is a fitting and honorable tribute to our fallen officers. It is a thing of beauty in an otherwise dreary career. I am a firm supporter of the memorial and this organization. Have you ever tried and raise money and commit to an endeavor even remotely as complex as this one? I have and I can tell you from personal experience it is a full time job. Researching, working at getting continued support, maintainence, etc.. How many "volunteers" did we have working on this project for the past few years? The NLEOM in D.C. has several full-time employees and a gift shop that is staffed and open year round. So quite your bitching that the guy who created the plan and put into motion is now getting a job out of the deal after he was railroaded out of the headhoncho spot. If you wanted the job you should have applied for it!
Additionally, this will likely be my last post. I have determined that the few hundred guys that post here on a regular basis are nothing more than the infamous 10% that you always hear about. The guys that whine and complain about the way things are but will take no action to try and change things for the better. To be honest I would rather you just shut the F&*k up and got out of the way so the rest of us who want to be here can do our jobs. If you hate the job and the bosses that badly just leave. This isn't the military, you are not bound by a contractual obligation. You can leave anytime you so choose. So my suggestion is this, when you see the front door open for you to leave, step through and don't let it hit you in the ass on your way out!!! Goodbye and good riddance!!
Da Sarge
Its all legit.
The organization better send letters to everyone who is doing payroll deduction detailing how EXACTLY they are spending our money now that the memorial is built or I am the first one ending it.
slips are passed out in the academy and its not a question of if you are going to donate to the fund, but how much every pay check. I never thought twice about donating, but if the money isn't being spent properly i'm going to have to reconsider.
So how can I have my deduction removed from my paycheck?!?
Hey it is the chicago way! who of daleys criminals is also getting kickbacks?
Your absolutely right. If you check charitable organizations, ( Salvation Army, Purple Heart Veterans, United Way etc..) you will see that a small percent actuallly goes to the intented target. Their bureaucracy is huge. High paid CEO'S.
They can play fussy math with this one. I would rather see honest volunteered efforts achieve a smaller amount then paid persons bring in more.
Also the funding for the up keep of this Park should be totally separate. How did it orginally go from creating the Park to a host of other causes? The other causes might be honorable ones, but they should be separate. Otherwise, were does it end? This smells bad. The history of this city and department demands transparency on this important matter.
One other thing. People say Cline had a lot of connections that brought in money. Well, he's gone.
Now he's just an retired cop. No, real pull anymore. How many people that kissed his ass daily would even say HI to him if they passed him in a store now? Those ass kissers are seeking a new ass to latch their lips to.
Prey on peoples' emotions at their time of most vulnerability. Easy pickens. It's a memorial fund, not a personal account. Only the weak minded prey on the weak hearted.
'Really This dept has raised Millions yet the land was free. Once again we are fools.'
So the free land already came with a memorial build there.
I listen to what happens on Zone 4 everyday that I work. 001 has Beat, Foot and Bike officers pulling event numbers for the Globes, Viet Nam Memorial, and the Police Memorial. I figure that 001 does at least 20 premise checks for those locations on 2nd Watch daily. Those locations do need to be checked cause of those 24 HOMELESS people hanging about.
What I dont understand is why private locations (i.e. Threatres Cadillac, Goodman, Auditorium)get police held down for their customers/patrons?
Next thing you know 001 will get a staionary post at 24/7 at the Memorial. Guess that will happen after Philly gets his position or should I say "IF".
I thought being North of the River would be a fantastic place to be. 018 is busier than Zone 10.
WHO WOULD EVER THOUGHT BEING A GHETTO COPPER WAS THE BEST JOB IN THE CITY?
Why has our Fraternal Orginization kept silent about police shootings? How about a press conference where our elected President says something like "If you point a gun at the Police-no matter who you are- you should expect to be shot!"
I know the thread drifted here, and for that I am sorry. But in the BIG scheme of things nobody really cares that some dope-slinging gang banging piece of Human Debris got himself killed. When it becomes public in the stream media that Philly got himself a position with the Police Memorial Fund- people will just think its business as normal in the State/Kingdom of Chicago.
I agree with you SC--some coppers donated as much as $10.00 a month to this project. If every copper donated $1.00 a month that's $12,000 a month x's 12 months. The retired officers were hit for donatios and I'm sure they opened their wallets too. If the park is completed, the extra money should be banked for simple maintenance fees and God forbid the time that a new name must be added--hopefully never, but we know the perils of this job.Stay safe out there boys and girls.
It is my understanding that the money that continues to be raised is utilized for the "Mission Beyond the Memorial". (Please see the link on the official Memorial website).
I have no problem contributing money to assist my fellow officers in obtaining "quality of life" items that insurance does not cover. For example, according to the Memorial website, an officer was given funds to outfit his van to make it handicapped accessible and allow him to drive.
The Memorial Foundation is also about helping living police officers who have sustained catastrophic injuries. What I would like to see is a public accounting of how the funds were spent and who received money for what purpose.
Seeing these police officers makes me remember that "There but for the Grace of God go I".
so it shall be written so it shall be done
Off Topic...New job for Tommy Byrne
Daley names new department heads
(Crain’s) — Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley has appointed new heads of the city’s Planning and Development, Transportation and Environment departments, as well as a new deputy chief of staff.
The appointments Mr. Daley announced Tuesday at a City Hall news conference are...
Thomas Byrne, 58, to commissioner of the Department of Transportation. A 35-year police veteran, Mr. Byrne is currently manager of audit and internal control in the city’s Law Department.
Terry got the tazer deal, and phil gets the memorial. terry strong armed po's and exempts alike for his pet project college fund.
Next.
This just In: 16:37hrs.
Little Tommy Byrne appointed
as head of the transportation department.
Now daley actually has someone that can look up to him.
slips are passed out in the academy and its not a question of if you are going to donate to the fund, but how much every pay check. I never thought twice about donating, but if the money isn't being spent properly i'm going to have to reconsider.
8/14/2007 10:25:00 AM
You mean like about 15 years ago when I came on and was literally forced to sign up for the United Negro College Fund immediately after taking the Power Test? Then, after my probation, I filled out the forms to cancel all donations. Several years later, I needed to get my stats to apply for a Unit ( I know, I know...shut up, I didn't have a phone call and no, I never got there ) the District Secretary handed me my "file" and told me to make the copies myself...inside that file was the now 3 year old form canceling my charitable donations! I'm not saying it stayed in there, but I was shocked to see it there in the first place!
I gave a lump sum of $100 on 2 separate occasions. I've always been wary of someone else taking money from my account. But all of this fucking whining and moaning has forced me to me to sign up for payroll deductions. You bitches make me ashamed with your ghetto lawyer accusations. You should post your 8th grade graduation photo next to your blogger names. You're no different than the ambulance chaser standing on the corner of Mozart & Roosevelt telling lies and making false accusations. I guarantee that most of you haven't given $1 to the memorial. Good on ya Phil! Up our side!
Do you fuckin' idiots really think for one instance that Phil Cline has stole any money from the fund . The whole lot of you need to get a life . I can't believe that grown men would even think that. But apparently your all a bunch of kids. You should all go home and look in the mirror and ask that question to yourselves and see how fuckin' stupid you look. God Bless the sane police.
I asked where the $1.25 per check goes years ago and was told it goes to "police benefit." But no one knew who to call or where it actually goes. For laughs I wanted to bow out, keep my $1.25 per check but said I couldn't bow out of it, that I signed up when I came on the job?? Does anyone out there have a REAL answer where this money goes, who REALLY benefits??? Do the math and that's a lot of money.
Is the memorial funding going through the patrolmens c/u? If so, shouldn't they have some type of reports by law that you should be able to view?
Hey "da sarge", you are an asshole! The whiners you decry so loudly are the reason you Sgt could organize, the reason we no longer rotate shifts, that we have PM 2 man cars, that we have automatic pistols, sweaters, a relaxed hat rule, OT pay for court, a contract, predictable days off, etc etc etc. THANK GOD the "whiners" of yesteryear didn't quit, but instead fought against ass clown gee-I'm-just-glad-I-have-a-job strokes like you. This blog is the only voice we blue shirts have. We know the bosses read this blog and we hope and pray someone would listen, and learn. Our complaints are a sarcastic way of letting the king know he has no clothes. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM! it's no wonder a "yes man" ass kisser like you is a boss, just par for the course.
CONGRATULATIONS SCC, YOU'VE REACHED A NEW LOW!
SURE IT MAKES SENSE TO ASK QUESTIONS, BUT TO PUT SPIN IT THE WAY YOU HAVE DONE IS DEPLORABLE.
ALL MEMORIALS HAVE PAID POSITIONS, CHECK OUT THEIR WEBSITES. THE NATIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS MEMORIAL FUNDS SPENDS OVER 1.3 MILLION A YEAR IN SALARIES.
MOST MEMORIAL FOUNDATIONS GO BEYOND THE MEMORIAL AND TO DO THAT, THEY NEED DIRECTION AND MANAGEMENT; AND YES THESE PEOPLE SHOULD BE PAID FOR THEIR WORK.
THE MONEY FROM OUR MEMORIAL IS SLATED FOR MANY THINGS AND ALL OF IT IS FOR THE FAMILIES OF OUR FALLEN BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND THOSE CRITICALLY INJURED IN THE LINE OF DUTY. Ie. ONE TIME PAYOUTS TO THE FAMILIES OF FALLEN OFFICERS TO HELP OUT RIGHT AWAY; REGARDLESS IF THEY WERE MURDERED ON OR OFF DUTY, SCHOLARSHIP FUNDS FOR THE CHILDREN OF FALLEN OFFICERS (THE MORE WE RAISE, THE MORE THEY CAN PAY), AND WHO KNOWS WHAT OTHER ASSISTANCE THE MEMORIAL WILL BE ABLE TO OFFER AS MORE MONEY COMES IN.
I AGREE THAT AN ANNUAL REPORT SHOULD BE PUBLISHED AND I’M SURE IT WILL, BUT YOU PEOPLE WILL ONLY BEEF THAT MUCH MORE WHEN YOU SEE THE NUMBERS. BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT YOU DO; YOU CRY AND CRY ABOUT EVERYTHING. LOOK AT THE NLEOMF AND SEE WHAT THEY SPEND EACH YEAR. http://www.nleomf.org/media/pdf/AnnualReport2006.pdf
I HAVE NO DOUBT ABOUT THE SINCERITY OF EVERYONE I KNOW THAT HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE MEMORIAL. DONATIONS SHOULD HAVE BEEN VOLUNTARY AND IT’S RIDICULOUS THAT ANYONE HAD TO BE “STRONG-ARMED”. COPPERS WILL PISS AWAY HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS A MONTH ON BEER AND CIGARETTES, BUT GOD FORBID THEY FEEL A LITTLE PRESSURED TO GIVE UP 4 BUCKS A MONTH TO HELP THE FAMILIES OF OUR OWN FALLEN OFFICERS. 48 DOLLARS A YEAR FOR YOU IDIOTS THAT CAN’T DO THE MATH.
I’M WILLING TO BET THAT EVERY SINGLE OFFICER ON THIS JOB HAS PROBABLY COVERED 10 YEARS WORTH OF CONTRIBUTIONS IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WITHIN THEIR FIRST 2 YEARS ON THE JOB. Ie. MEDICAL ABUSE, COURT OT WHEN YOU WEREN’T NEEDED, MILKING OT, ETC.
ALTHOUGH I USUALLY AVOID POSTING HERE, I WELCOME THE PUNISHMENT I AM ABOUT TO TAKE FOR THIS POSTING AND YES I AM SIGNING MY NAME TO IT.
THE MEMORIAL FOUNDATION IS AN OUTSTANDING ORGANIZATION AND ONE I AM PROUD TO BE A PART OF.
John Garrido
Area 5 Detective Division
"And no, I'm not a two-year wonder. Be safe."
No you're a stone goof trying to divert attention using some hypothetical non-sense that has zero comparison. You must be a White shirt 35th street clown puppetmaster.
You'd be an excellent Minister of Lies& Propaganda. Nazi-Germany would be proud of someone like YOU!!
Why is everything a fucking conspiracy on this board? Everyone talks this great game. 'This is a brotherhood' most of us say. Then we cry that we were strong-armed out of $1-10 from our checks. If this is truly a brotherhood we should have given without question. The problem is that it's all about 'me.' Why not 'me?' Brotherhood my ass! With all the shit going down in 011 we worry about Phil drawing a salary from the memorial. Of all the things to worry about. 011 is a powderkeg people. Have you ever heard of priorities? And no, I'm not a two-year wonder. Be safe.
8/14/2007 06:25:00 AM
I'm ashamed to be the police knowing an officer such as yourself is wearing the same uniform. TO compare 011th dist to a man picking my pocket for money, all based on lies and in the name of dead officers then you need serious Therapy my friend.
"It seems more and more people could care less if a cop dies but instead they're out there looking for an easy buck in some lawsuit. The man who spearheaded the same memorial deserves a vacation and a lot more but instead of some jerk cops - THAT WERE OFF DUTY - he no longer serves at the PLEASURE of the mayor. Too bad people just don't get it"
Boy,They're just liing up @ 35th street giving testimonials to their illustious former Boss/Hero.
Guess when you're a facilitator to the lie machine you go to great lengths to justify ones actions..
I believe Rudolph Hess & numerous other Nazi minions defended their "FUHRER" w/the same blind allegiance& fervor.
Scary never thought I'd see that in America,let alone a Major Metropolitan Police Department.
Then again this is "Chicagah" where loyalty trumps, common sense& decency...
I was scammed, you were scammed. It is just a scam that played on our emotions. If you think about it, very similar to the DOC, lots of pomp and circumstance.
We got taken! I gave cash numerous times to the fund. Mike Acosta give me my money back
" To be honest I would rather you just shut the F&*k up and got out of the way so the rest of us who want to be here can do our jobs. If you hate the job and the bosses that badly just leave."
Don'y let the door hit you on the way out you,
SPINELESS MOUTHY PUNK!!
We're not going ANYWHERE.
GO HAVE A GOOD LONG CRY IN MOMMY'S LAP WAH,WAH!!
Brotherhood my ass! With all the shit going down in 011 we worry about Phil drawing a salary from the memorial. Of all the things to worry about. 011 is a powderkeg people. Have you ever heard of priorities? And no, I'm not a two-year wonder. Be safe.
Guess what your preaching to the quire. The Powers to be don't give a fuck about the officers in 11 never have and never will. You want to cry go to 35th st and cry. Do me a favor ask them how they treated Joe Airhart. U sir are another sell out.
Here is a good idea that will never come to pass. If you are a municipal employee who retires to take another job with the city, you would not be able to pull a pension from the first municipal job until you retire from the second municipal job. This should include political jobs as well as civil service. I can think of at least 10 recent retirees from the Police and Fire Depts that have done this and it makes me sick. We had to take Ethics training and tests. What about these guys?
can tell you from personal experience it is a full time job. Researching, working at getting continued support, maintainence, etc.. How many "volunteers" did we have working on this project for the past few years? The NLEOM in D.C. has several full-time employees and a gift shop that is staffed and open year round. So quite your bitching that the guy who created the plan and put into motion is now getting a job out of the deal after he was railroaded out of the headhoncho spot. If you wanted the job you should have applied for it!
Additionally, this will likely be my last post. I have determined that the few hundred guys that post here on a regular basis are nothing more than the infamous 10% that you always hear about. The guys that whine and complain about the way things are but will take no action to try and change things for the better. To be honest I would rather you just shut the F&*k up and got out of the way so the rest of us who want to be here can do our jobs. If you hate the job and the bosses that badly just leave. This isn't the military, you are not bound by a contractual obligation. You can leave anytime you so choose. So my suggestion is this, when you see the front door open for you to leave, step through and don't let it hit you in the ass on your way out!!! Goodbye and good riddance!!
Da Sarge
You sir are just another spin doctor from 35th st. Let me get this right, I should feel sorry for Phil Cline who has a questionable past at best.(Marquette 10)When Cline became supt he immediately started promoting his friends or the connected without regard to qualifications, Cline then depleted the Patrol Division placing officers in danger without proper backup. IN answer to you telling me to leave if I don't like it, all I can say is spoken like a true 35th st coward. I'm not going anywhere I'm here to keep you honest. Go back to your desk and keep spinning the lies.
Why is everything a fucking conspiracy on this board? Everyone talks this great game. 'This is a brotherhood' most of us say. Then we cry that we were strong-armed out of $1-10 from our checks. If this is truly a brotherhood we should have given without question. The problem is that it's all about 'me.' Why not 'me?' Brotherhood my ass! With all the shit going down in 011 we worry about Phil drawing a salary from the memorial. Of all the things to worry about. 011 is a powderkeg people. Have you ever heard of priorities? And no, I'm not a two-year wonder. Be safe.
8/14/2007 06:25:00 AM
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have to say I kind of agree with this.
Additionally, this will likely be my last post. I have determined that the few hundred guys that post
I understand! free speech can be scary for some.
Jus think when Starks retires he'll get a job giving public speeches and he'll teach speed reading.
I refused to donate through payroll deduction. The next month the Reg vehicle I was on was taken away and I had my hours changed. this occurred two years ago. Understand I had Giving my share Via check. Once this dept starts demanding I knew something was up.
Additionally, this will likely be my last post. I have determined that the few hundred guys that post
I'm sure a disabled PO would be more then Happy to volunteer or receive a reasonable amount of pay.
Regarding the Chicago Police Memorial having all the money it needs, why don't you read the OFFICIAL site instead of spreading rumors and gossip? The website is: http://www.cpdmemorial.org/
The first paragraph reads, " The Foundation provides support and assistance to the families of Chicago Police Officers who sacrificed their lives." That means the money helps the families. Look back in history when it did not. So - who cares if you don't want to give money - lucky you that is not affected by the loss.
PHIL CLINE IS A THIEF AND WILL NOT GET ONE DOLLAR OF MINE. I AM ALSO GOING TO CALL THE SHAKMAN PEOPLE ABOUT BEING FORCED TO DONATE MONEY IN SERGEANT SCHOOL.
8/14/2007 05:30:00 AM
You are one big Dickhead. Nobody forced you to donate money. If your not happy with the donation just stop, plain and simple.
I have no problem contributing money to assist my fellow officers in obtaining "quality of life" items that insurance does not cover. For example, according to the Memorial website, an officer was given funds to outfit his van to make it handicapped accessible and allow him to drive.
However, Will all the disabled officers be treated equal? I hate to say it, yet I don't think so.
Thomas Byrne, 58, to commissioner of the Department of Transportation. A 35-year police veteran, Mr. Byrne is currently manager of audit and internal control in the city’s Law Department.
Little Tommy Thumb! Oh good god! Daleys main man and spin doctor. By the way where is his Daughter now days is she a Lt. yet?
If you hate the job and the bosses that badly just leave. This isn't the military, you are not bound by a contractual obligation. You can leave anytime you so choose. So my suggestion is this, when you see the front door open for you to leave, step through and don't let it hit you in the ass on your way out!!! Goodbye and good riddance!!
Da Sarge
8/14/2007 08:18:00 AM
Well...ok then.
The money is also saved up to give to the families of officers that are killed or die while on active duty. Doesn't it make you feel better to know that your family will get money from the Memorial Foundation if you go down on the job? I know it makes me feel better.
YOU BOYS ARE LETTING YOUR EMOTION CLOUD YOUR JUDGEMENT.
ALL GOOD CONS SUCKER YOU IN WITH GUILT OR GREED AND THEN THE BIG PAY OFF DOWN THE LINE.
THE RECRUITS REMEBER WHEN THEY WERE PRESSURED TO DONATE OUT OF THEIR CHECKS TO THE FUND.
GUYS DONATE YOUR MONEY TO A BETTER CHARITY.
CLINES WANT TO GET PAID, CHARITY STARTS AT HOME.
THE NICE PENSION HE IS ABOUT TO CASH IN AND HE CANT DONATE HIS TIME.
YOU GUY WINE ABOUT DALEY THIS GUYS ONE OF OUR OWN
Don't we have cameras at the memorial?
Speaking of Tommy's-- what was the craziness with the Velvet Fog in 025?????????
Reminds me of P. Maslanka in the academy. There was a blood drive and some recruits were not going to donate blood. The choice was giver whether they would be donating blood from their arm or their nose.
If you don't like the way the memorial is being run then don't donate. If you don't have a problem with it, continue to donate
Those of us ,aking donations, having money deducted from our checks, and buying thier stuff have the absolute right to know where our money is going. It is not Phil's memorial. I know Gold Star family members have family listed at the memorial. I too have my brothers listed there. Officers I worked with, partyed with, faced a lot of shit with. It is OUR memorial.
The maximum amount of money possible should go to those injured officers and their families. Not into Phil's or anyone elses pockets.
I want to know where the money is going, or I'm stopping my donations.
Pallidin
Looks like they caught one of the little MF's that defaced the memorial . I hope they hang the cocksucker.
CHEAP BASTARDS
OFF TOPIC:
Joey the Clown sez "were(cops) cheap"!
He's kind of got us on that one.
How bout his "im no outfit guy" routine. Hes kinda acting like the "chin" Gigante.It didnt work for the Chin and it aint goin to work for da Clown.
Oh Diablo...por que?! Por Que?!?!?
I gave a lump sum of $100 on 2 separate occasions. I've always been wary of someone else taking money from my account. But all of this fucking whining and moaning has forced me to me to sign up for payroll deductions. You bitches make me ashamed with your ghetto lawyer accusations. You should post your 8th grade graduation photo next to your blogger names. You're no different than the ambulance chaser standing on the corner of Mozart & Roosevelt telling lies and making false accusations. I guarantee that most of you haven't given $1 to the memorial. Good on ya Phil! Up our side!
Why do you have such trouble. if this fund is held accountable. they can steal however not to the degree they can now. Accountable is not a dirty word.
To the Area 5 Detective that so bravely gave his name, weren't you one of his promotees from Narcotics (plus 4 hour days and a car). If you don't know, he is gone so the ass kissing can stop!
Hey "da sarge", you are an asshole! The whiners you decry so loudly are the reason you Sgt could organize, the reason we no longer rotate shifts, that we have PM 2 man cars, that we have automatic pistols, sweaters, a relaxed hat rule, OT pay for court, a contract, predictable days off, etc etc etc. THANK GOD the "whiners" of yesteryear didn't quit, but instead fought against ass clown gee-I'm-just-glad-I-have-a-job strokes like you. This blog is the only voice we blue shirts have. We know the bosses read this blog and we hope and pray someone would listen, and learn. Our complaints are a sarcastic way of letting the king know he has no clothes. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM! it's no wonder a "yes man" ass kisser like you is a boss, just par for the course.
I love you dud.
Regarding the Chicago Police Memorial having all the money it needs, why don't you read the OFFICIAL site instead of spreading rumors and gossip? The website is: http://www.cpdmemorial.org/
The first paragraph reads, " The Foundation provides support and assistance to the families of Chicago Police Officers who sacrificed their lives." That means the money helps the families. Look back in history when it did not. So - who cares if you don't want to give money - lucky you that is not affected by the loss.
Who are you trying to convince, me or you. That sight is no different then any sight the city puts out. WE call it spin.
"I HAVE NO DOUBT ABOUT THE SINCERITY OF EVERYONE I KNOW THAT HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE MEMORIAL. DONATIONS SHOULD HAVE BEEN VOLUNTARY AND IT’S RIDICULOUS THAT ANYONE HAD TO BE “STRONG-ARMED”. COPPERS WILL PISS AWAY HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS A MONTH ON BEER AND CIGARETTES, BUT GOD FORBID THEY FEEL A LITTLE PRESSURED TO GIVE UP 4 BUCKS A MONTH TO HELP THE FAMILIES OF OUR OWN FALLEN OFFICERS. 48 DOLLARS A YEAR FOR YOU IDIOTS THAT CAN’T DO THE MATH.
I’M WILLING TO BET THAT EVERY SINGLE OFFICER ON THIS JOB HAS PROBABLY COVERED 10 YEARS WORTH OF CONTRIBUTIONS IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WITHIN THEIR FIRST 2 YEARS ON THE JOB. Ie. MEDICAL ABUSE, COURT OT WHEN YOU WEREN’T NEEDED, MILKING OT, ETC.
John Garrido
Area 5 Detective Division"
GOT GUILT??
Did you convienently live out your rank SERGEANT Garrido??
If the Memorial is completely voluntary as you claim it is,
why was it necessary for you to take a list of names of who contributed?
It's not a question of the Money Dude.
It's a matter of accountability?
In the future Sarge,stay on topic& avoid going off on a tangent regarding Medical usage.Please.
Most of you are idiots...if $1 of $5 dollars per pay check get to my wife and kid after I'm killed in the line of duty than so be it! Give the fiver a pay check and forget about it. Oh..and hope that you or a friend don't have to dig into this fund.
The money is also saved up to give to the families of officers that are killed or die while on active duty. Doesn't it make you feel better to know that your family will get money from the Memorial Foundation if you go down on the job? I know it makes me feel better.
Really you think so. If you got juice maybe. Lets hear from Officers that this fund has helped.
I have no problem contributing money to assist my fellow officers in obtaining "quality of life" items that insurance does not cover. For example, according to the Memorial website, an officer was given funds to outfit his van to make it handicapped accessible and allow him to drive.
However, Will all the disabled officers be treated equal? I hate to say it, yet I don't think so.
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Just like anything else in CPD only a few will be taken care of. If you ain't got a phone call or a China man, you ain't getting nothing.
"Looks like they caught one of the little MF's that defaced the memorial . I hope they hang the cocksucker.
8/14/2007 09:47:00 PM"
Criminal Defacement is now punishable by the Death Penalty?
Really?
Until you find out the kid belongs to some Boss. Then you'll back pedal so fast you'll turn back time.
I'm a gold star Family member and did indeed think we were being used. yet I was ashamed to ask questions.
The June newsletter of the Chicago Police Memorial Foundation which is available on the website
www.cpdmemorial.org has a full accounting of the money donated and spent since the Foundation's inception. Also the Foundation gave money to the widows of two officers who died in recent weeks and left a lot of little kids.
Those of you posting bullshit about this being a scam should be ashamed of yourself.
One would think that Phil Cline would just go away happy with his 150K,deferred compensation,social security,etc...
But no,Phil is not content with literally destroying the CPD,placing his cronies throughout the ranks,letting Mike Mette hang,etc. Now Phil must bilk the Chicago Police Memorial Fund...
CHicago Sucks
Well I have an idea. Becauase you all feel your being "strong-armed"; I say each and every one of our officers donates one hour a week cleaning, fundraising, and maintaining OUR memorial on their own time.
This way there will be no conspiricies, no ploitical strong arming, no intentions but pure love.
Now please send an on-line petition to the fop to support this idea, because this is the only way its going to be done right, according to you all.
Again, no one should have asked for a contribution. It should have come from yur hearts.
Obviously its not.
What a shame.
Mike Mette will be interviewd on CNN--"ANDERSON COOPER 360" at 9 PM tonight.
Still need tickets? Check the Web site: www.MikeMetteDefenseFund.com.
You can also e-mail us at Ten1MM@aol.com
OFF TOPIC: 002nd DISTRICT SGT STABBED. Tact Sgt MK in 002 was stabbed in the neck and top on the shoulder around 1600 hours on Tuesday. Occurred at 56th and Prairie. He went to Christ hospital. He will be held over night, but should make a full recovery. Got stabbed by some lunatic with a pair of scissors who flagged him down. The guy just attacked the Sgt for no reason as he was getting out of his car according to numerous civilian witnesses and the Sgt. Bad guy was arrested. Charges pending at this time. Be careful out there.
Anonymous said...
Guess what your preaching to the quire...
8/14/2007 06:28:00 PM
What the fuck is a "quire"?
I think you ment CHOIR, sir...I mean mister superintendent, sir..
John Garrido
Area 5 Detective Division
You have to be kidding me John,you abused the medical beyond belief to accomodate your law school schedule.
You are a smart guy with money but lack commonsense at times. We all know things that would be quite embarrassing. You should be very careful with throwing your name around on here,the truth could emerge about alot of things you are and were involved in.
I’M WILLING TO BET THAT EVERY SINGLE OFFICER ON THIS JOB HAS PROBABLY COVERED 10 YEARS WORTH OF CONTRIBUTIONS IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WITHIN THEIR FIRST 2 YEARS ON THE JOB. Ie. MEDICAL ABUSE, COURT OT WHEN YOU WEREN’T NEEDED, MILKING OT, ETC.
John Garrido
Area 5 Detective Division"
You don't get it! I spend my money the way I please. Shame on you I guess you have no point bringing up medical, milking overtime, what the fuck does that have to do with this fund being accountable. Did you get a call from 35th street. So you did the WHITE SHIRT THING.
8/14/2007 11:07:00 PM and 8/14/2007 11:10:00 PM, obviously the same poster: feeling a bit inadequate, are we? You've got to be kidding me...you think that if a person with no clout got killed or severely injured they'd get nothing? I hope you never have to be proven wrong, you bitter, little boy,
Guess what your preaching to the quire.
WOW!!!
ISN'T ANYONE ELSE IRATE AT THE BLATANT BLACKMAIL WE HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO, BY PHIL CLINE???
KEEPING A LIST OF WHO DONATES AND HOW MUCH YOU CONTRIBUTE TO THE CHICAGO POLICE MEMORIAL CONSTITUTES BRIBERY...
THE FBI INDICTED MANY INDIVIDUALS IN RELATION TO CRONYISM LISTS FOR JOBS,FAVORS,TESTS,ETC IN CHICAGO AND IN THE GOVERNOR GEORGE RYAN MESS.
IT IS HIGHTIME THE FBI AND THE US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE LOOK INTO THE CHICAGO POLICE MEMORIAL FUND/CPD AND IT FUNRAISING TACTICS/POLITICAL GAMES.
BEING DENIED A PROMOTION OR A SPOT WITHIN A UNIT BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T CONTRIBUTE OR DIDN'T MAKE IT ENOUGH IS CRIMINAL.
I HOPE THAT NORTHERN ILLINOIS US ATTORNEY PATRICK FITZGERALD IS UP TO THE JOB,HE WAS OBSERVED CHUMMING IT UP WITH PHAT PHIL AT HIS RETIREMENT PARTY.
Why didnt we just skip the memorial and donate all that money to the injured and fallen officers and families?
The money is also saved up to give to the families of officers that are killed or die while on active duty. Doesn't it make you feel better to know that your family will get money from the Memorial Foundation if you go down on the job? I know it makes me feel better.
I think there is plenty of $ already around for LOD deaths. (Federal and State, 100 club etc. as well as the fundraisers held all the time, scholarships to high school and college for the kids - you don't have to have too many tag sales for the families, however some attention and recognition would be nice) The IOD injured guys have some problems getting their bills paid, but eventually they are paid- although I agree they could use some financial help, but mostly they could use some attention - in other words, don't forget about them and their sacrifice too.
I always knew there was a "mission beyond the memorial" which I thought was to help the families of officers who needed help and didn't qualify for help from other areas, like the guy who suddenly gets killed on a fishing trip, commits suicide, has a catastrophic illness etc. There are no provisions to help these guys and their families, and they need both attention and $ to survive.
quire ????
Hey Dumbass , try CHOIR
Anonymous said...
I’M WILLING TO BET THAT EVERY SINGLE OFFICER ON THIS JOB HAS PROBABLY COVERED 10 YEARS WORTH OF CONTRIBUTIONS IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WITHIN THEIR FIRST 2 YEARS ON THE JOB. Ie. MEDICAL ABUSE, COURT OT WHEN YOU WEREN’T NEEDED, MILKING OT, ETC.
John Garrido
Area 5 Detective Division"
You don't get it! I spend my money the way I please. Shame on you I guess you have no point bringing up medical, milking overtime, what the fuck does that have to do with this fund being accountable. Did you get a call from 35th street. So you did the WHITE SHIRT THING.
8/15/2007 12:13:00 AM
JOHN ARE YOU ANOTHER "MERIT" ASS? YOUR A DET? MILKING WOW ASSHOLE THAT IS THE POT CALLING KETTLE BLACK! YOU HAVE MILKED EVERYTHING AND STOLE ALL YOU COULD JAGOFF! MAYBE IAD SHOULD REALLY LOOK INTO YOUR EXPLOITS!
The June newsletter of the Chicago Police Memorial Foundation which is available on the website
www.cpdmemorial.org has a full accounting of the money donated and spent since the Foundation's inception. Also the Foundation gave money to the widows of two officers who died in recent weeks and left a lot of little kids.
Those of you posting bullshit about this being a scam should be ashamed of yourself.
Sure, sure Who did the numbers Arthur Anderson who is available for a little extra cash. Put the head back in the sand. We would like real accountability.
"Those of you posting bullshit about this being a scam should be ashamed of yourself.
8/14/2007 11:40:00 PM "
Don't broadbrush everyone Bonestroke. It's the methods obtained& accountability(Theirs can eaisly be construed as Fuzzy Math @ Best). They continue to change the goals & missions of the Memorial to suit their own Agenda. That's what is raising th eRed Flags(Rightfully so).
They only have themselves to blame.
As far as being ashamed, perhaps you should talk to the person who brought you into the world and see what their take is..
8/14
11:40pm
Ashamed why? How can you read that report and fail to see that only $21,000 out of millions was paid out to help p.o.s and their families. Understand that asshole? Only .5%, that's right not even ONE PERCENT of millions of dollars has been used to help anyone. And those who question this shit should be ashamed? As far as those who believe that "mission beyond the memorial" was always planned well go back to the beginning, before the Fat Man got his hands on the funds and never once in interviews or articles will you find Greg Young's widow from the Gold Star families or anybody else connected to trying to get this memorial, ever mention anything but a memorial to our fallen members. If you can prove different then do it otherwise get your head out of the Fat Man's ass and look for new clout to take care of you.
You have to become suspicious and question the motives when a cpd boss gets put in charge of any kind of fund (Acosta), especially when they publicly announce that they serve at the pleasure of the mayor. Cline has driven this dept. into the sewer and now he's gonna do the same with the memorial. Isn't anything sacred anymore on this job?
Since Cline is in charge of the memorial does that mean there will be outdoor roll calls, seatbelt missions, Doc missions, sector deployments, curfew missions and just causes near the memorial park?
Don't be surprised if Cline starts removing some of the memorial bricks. He cut manpower on this job by telling the mayor he could do more with less.
There have been several comments about having the Memorial Foundation investigated or reported on by Sneed or Pam. Don't you think that if there was actually a story there that they wouldn't be all over it like hounds? Last time I checked, Sneed was a huge supporter of Cline,his efforts, and The Memorial.
Anonymous said...
The June newsletter of the Chicago Police Memorial Foundation which is available on the website
www.cpdmemorial.org has a full accounting of the money donated and spent since the Foundation's inception. Also the Foundation gave money to the widows of two officers who died in recent weeks and left a lot of little kids.
Those of you posting bullshit about this being a scam should be ashamed of yourself.
8/14/2007 11:40:00 PM
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You better read that newsletter again buddy. That in NO WAY is a Full Accounting of the funds raised.
That is a generalization of the funds raised and spent since the inception.
They need to break it down.
On a side note:
Cline & Co., were in the Academy last week strong arming the Pre-Service Sergeants class!!!!!!!
8/14/2007 11:07:00 PM and 8/14/2007 11:10:00 PM, obviously the same poster: feeling a bit inadequate, are we? You've got to be kidding me...you think that if a person with no clout got killed or severely injured they'd get nothing? I hope you never have to be proven wrong, you bitter, little boy,
Well Dud, Look at the history of this dept, stands to reason he would feel this way.
Why don't they get it! What you have done in the past is the yardstick your judged by. This dept has a history of wrongdoing, What is wrong with Accountability If your not hiding anything. Then again if you are Cline! we are calling you out.
How about hiring some disabled cops to work for the Memorial? They could use the job and pay.
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