Second Guessing Gets Intense
- Chicago Police Department officials testifying Friday at a public hearing said they were adjusting how officer-involved shootings are investigated.
- What the roundtable process really needs is civilians who could sit in on the process, said the Rev. Robin Hood, of Redeemed Outreach Ministries. "It will be somebody that is not biased toward the police [or] the mayor," he said.
You really have to be some kind of an ass (like a west or south side reverend) to think that you can walk into the round table process and pass judgment on officers for something that takes place in the blink of an eye. Civilians, especially civilians who have anything to do with the reverends, have no business anywhere near a round table discussion. In our opinion, most civilians have no business even being near a jury box, but that's a different argument.
Monday morning quarterbacking.
Monday morning quarterbacking.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
67 Comments:
Just wait, the reverands will get their way.
It is open season on PO's in Chicago.
I am laying down until it is over and keeping my job, pension and freedom, as are MANY of my co-workers.
There is no reason to be the proactive working police anymore.
It's not like I am going to get a merit promotion!
Seriously...."Reverand" Robbin' the Hood?????? Can I get an AMEN???? How approiate! I got nothin'
Auditor General's report blasts Cease Fire
Submitted by Blaster on Fri, 08/31/2007 - 04:20.
http://www.chicagodefender.com/page/local.cfm?ArticleID=976
The Illinois Auditor General released a 28-page audit of the CeaseFire violence prevention group detailing misappropriation of funds, receiving money outside of the parameters of payment agreements and having work started by its partners without written agreements
Another citizen, in the same article, stated she was afraid to be in
"The community is on edge" the article stated. Let them relax, stay out of their neighborhood.
I called the Govenor of Iowa per requests from the peanut gallery and today I received a response from the Govenor's office.
hey guys and girls. be careful out there especially since the mandatory attendance required christmas partys are going on now. ive noticed a lot of cpd are getting DUI'ed lately (including SGTS).
Now, you don't really mean that you, a sworn peace officer, don't believe in the jury system, do you?
Do you?
The reverend Robin Hood?
I'd rather have the fucking tooth fairy at my round table!
These fake men of the cloth can all go straight to hell!
No jury of your peers? WTF. Sounds like SCC wants to be the judge and jury now?
What a circus
How about this,
Give cillians, revs, and surburban moms a badge and gun, have them make traffic stops and go talk to selling dopeheads. Better yet have them serve high risk warrants. (they forget police officers are killed-not to mention this year at the highest rate in over 30 years) Then when they get into a shooting its thire fault and we can arrest them.
Apperantly going through the hiring process, and the academy, and state testing mean absolutly nothing since anyone can do the job. Or in this matter judge police work without one day on the street in a police car.
Where is the dept and the union to back us up with public statements and saying "no" to a civillian review.
Lay the fuck down for chrissakes
20 and out
Off topic:
I have 14 December 2007 in the "What-day-will-Drew Peterson-eat-
his-gun" pool.
"Rev. Robin Hood?"
Give me a break. What's his/her real name?
Reverend Robbin Da Hood says----
Why don't y'all just believe me?
i think things are begining to look up for cpd
And another word from of Union...(silence).....
(OT) http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/677375,CST-NWS-collar02.article
HE JUMPED OUT OF HIS ACURA, AND CHASED AND GETS A STORY ON PAGE 3 FOR A BULLSHIT ARREST! WTF! NO CHARLES YOU WILL NOT SAVE YOUR JOB WITH THIS ACT, I THINK THE NEW SUPT KNOWS YOUR FULL OF SHIT! YOU HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE WORKING COPPERS GREAT JOB, NOW PUT IN THE RETIREMENT PAPERS NOW THANK YOU! HOPE YOU GET A COMMENDATION YOUR THE BESTEST!
Anonymous said...
Just wait, the reverands will get their way.
It is open season on PO's in Chicago.
I am laying down until it is over and keeping my job, pension and freedom, as are MANY of my co-workers.
There is no reason to be the proactive working police anymore.
It's not like I am going to get a merit promotion!
12/02/2007 12:15:00 AM
Unless the new boss speaks out against these idiots I are done, and have been done fuck it! no balls bosses a union that is nothing more that the mickey mouse club, no contract no leadership at all!
You really have to be some kind of an ass...to think that you can walk into the round table process and pass judgment on officers for something that takes place in the blink of an eye.
Huh? I'm a civilian, and if I shot someone breaking into my home, you can damned well bet there'd be people passing judgement on me for something that took place in the blink of an eye.
Sucks to have people who don't know you getting into your shit, doesn't it?
(Not that us civilians are allowed to have guns in our homes in this stupid city.)
Just what we need is Junebug Enterprises on the Roundtable process.
"Rev. Robin Hood?"
Give me a break. What's his/her real name?
12/02/2007 07:57:00 AM
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And where did he get his divinity degree? Off the back of a bag of flamin hots? How about a credential check on some of these fucks?
That would be perfect. A new round table question, "Why didn't you just shoot the gun out of his hand?".
"Rev. Robin Hood?"
Give me a break. What's his/her real name?
Actually he's the pastor of Redeemed Outreach Ministries in the Englewood, one of Chicago's finer neighborhoods, a lead organizer for Illinois ACORN, a supporter of various stupid ideas the Chicago City Council has and a rabid anti-gun and anti police activist.
12/02/2007 12:07:08 PM
hey guys and girls. be careful out there especially since the mandatory attendance required christmas partys are going on now. ive noticed a lot of cpd are getting DUI'ed lately (including SGTS).
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Because they have hired assholes on this job. I wish I could fire every cop that has ticketed other coppers.
Just wait, the reverands will get their way.
It is open season on PO's in Chicago.
I am laying down until it is over and keeping my job, pension and freedom, as are MANY of my co-workers.
There is no reason to be the proactive working police anymore.
It's not like I am going to get a merit promotion!
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Also, if the mayor and dept possibly the union stood up to the revs and media it would be great, but with all this crap why be the police?
PS I'm waiting for a PO to go to prision and lose his house on a justified legal shooting. Then what? Give some feedback folks.
SCC, I know you are a right wing nut. But do you REALLY BELIEVE that most citizens "have no business in a jury box". What, only people like you should serve on a jury? What makes you qualified to decide who should sit on a jury or not?
Now, as for the citizens sitting on a round table for police shootings, that would be a disaster. My God, the city, the department, the media and local so called activist groups are really making it difficult for police officers to be proactive. If a police officer is proactive, then he will lose his job, pension and probably wear an orange jump suit. What a shame. What a real shame.
Thats right, go right on electing the keffers and 19th ward drunk hillbilly irishmen, and this is what you get.
Mayor Robin Hood -- Wooo Hooo!
who in the hell did they put in charge in writing the new general order on search warrants. what a fucking idiot. clueless if you ask me. probably never obtained or executed a single one; it's obvious.
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For most citizens, they cant even sit through a caps meeting without getting out of hand. Let’s face cit, with the racial tension in Chicago, the black citizens can even have a creative dialogue without playing the race card. This has been proven even by our most distinguished rrepresentatives among us. As for being “Bias” against the police or mayor daily. Even the good police in our ranks question some of the antics of our own. And for the mayor. I would guess 95 percent of the police cant stand the creep.
Dear Rev. Robin Hood,
Fuck You.
Signed,
Ofcr. Little John
Seems to me I remember ROBIN HOOD being name checked in 010 about 20 years ago and he had a paternity warrant. I guess he found God, (or maybe it was a different Robin Hood). I remember that because everyone was chuckling as the name was run.--Some things you never forget.
how moronic. this is like people evaluating brain surgeons, and none of the people on the board are doctors or in the medical field.
The Chicago Police Department does have civilians sit in on the round tables. These civilians are called OPS. Maybe someone should enlighten Reverand Hood so he can educate himself on the process before making an ignorant comment.
HIS REAL NAME IS FRIAR TUCK, IM NOT KIDDING
If you Google Rev Hood (not his real name), he is the average race baiting store front rev. (A.C.O.R.N.) that will throw his name to anything and everything to get publicity including:
Walmart stores
Blacks not having high speed internet access
Police abuse
Predatory lending
White doctors fleeing the city
etc., etc....
Piece of shit....when you research individuals like this, it is very apparent they are hiding behind BS rev titles that probably dont even exist....what a scam...and the media gives them a stage to fill air time......ministers and the media are both whores
FROM THE TRIBUNE
Weis received criticism from a segment of the African-American community that was disappointed a minority didn't win the top post.
"I don't think this is a good message sent to our community," said Rev. Steve Greer Jr. of Christian Valley Baptist Church. "We needed a representative sensitive to the issues that African-Americans face and understand why we do what we do."
Greer, whose church is in the North Lawndale neighborhood, said he hoped Weis would choose an African-American for his second in command.
NOTE TO THE NEW SUP: If you let the "reverends/gangbangers" pick the 1st deputy, you will be sending a STRONG message to the rank and file that you are NOT in charge!!!! WE WILL KNOW by your selection. If you choose someone whose only qualification is the color of their skin (kinda like the way Starks got the job) the morale on this job will sink to irrepairable levels.
in re "give me a break" sounds like a reporter trying to find an original thought or a quote from a source within CPD
Time to LAWYER UP! When your attorney advises you not to answer any questions, the Department will fire you, your civil rights will be violated and you will get a big payday. Prescidence will be set. Remember, there was a time on this job when you could not exercise your fifth amendment right to self-incrimination. Someone had be the pioneer.
We're the only idiot department that has a roundtable anyway.
I believe our new fed boss would receive a 72 hour period for stress before he would have to answer any questions in a law enforcement involved shooting in his former agency.
How about putting a random homeless mental on every roundtable, to ensure fairness???? Sounds like a good idea to me, plus the entertainment value would be priceless.
Hey, don't get a DUI on the way home from the Christmas Party!
Off topic:
I have 18 December 2007 in the "What-day-will-Drew Peterson-eat-
his-gun" pool.
Off topic:
I have 14 December 2007 in the "What-day-will-Drew Peterson-eat-
his-gun" pool.
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Are you kidding??? That crazy f-ck is too cocky to kill himself!
To 12/02/2007 07:22:00 AM'
Hey lame brain. Have you heard this guy speak? He's a sergeant-and sharp to boot! He exudes confidence. They'll never find her. She was probably dissolved in a batch of Kool Aid that is presently being consumed by a pack of worthless affirmative action, merit exempts scrambling to keep from being shipped back to southside districts!
In response to 12/02/2007 02:17:00
there were Sgts from IAD at the most recent Breathe Certification class during training 26-29 November. So be careful.
The Reverend Robin Hood of the Church of My Left Nut?
What's going on in the city? We have reverands (I use that term loosely) named Robin Hood while the next superintendent looks like the Re-Animator?
In response to 12/02/2007 02:17:00
there were Sgts from IAD at the most recent Breathe Certification class during training 26-29 November. So be careful.
12/02/2007 08:04:00 PM
keep a pack of matches in your pocket. suck on them it will throw the test
HEY MOPRAH!!!! Care to comment on THIS story? (I'll bet not, doesn't fit your pattern)
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/baltimore_city/bal-te.ci.probe02dec02,0,5563956.story?coll=bal_tab01_layout
I have 17 Dec 2007 in the "What-day-will-Over-Educated-Copper-eat-Drew-Peterson" pool!!!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
How about putting a random homeless mental on every roundtable, to ensure fairness???? Sounds like a good idea to me, plus the entertainment value would be priceless.
12/02/2007 06:20:00 PM
Id like to nominate Herman- the traveling homeless guy or The guy with the Shit stained pants who sleeps in the park across from the Library on State St.
Drew sure looks like the cowardly lion from Wizard of Oz
Huh? I'm a civilian, and if I shot someone breaking into my home, you can damned well bet there'd be people passing judgement on me for something that took place in the blink of an eye.
Sucks to have people who don't know you getting into your shit, doesn't it?
(Not that us civilians are allowed to have guns in our homes in this stupid city.)
First we are paid to get into your shit. Secondly, atleast I have a gun to protect my family and you don't., especially now that this city is going up for grabs. NO MORE WORK.
Please Mr. Citizen, go start a blog for your BS job at Walmart and leaves ours alone. Too bad you couldn't get a GED and come on this job.
Drew sure looks like the cowardly lion from Wizard of Oz
i say tim the toolman taylor.
while the next superintendent looks like the Re-Animator
12/02/2007 08:56:00 PM
HAHAHAHAHA! Wonder if he's gonna re-animate any of the exempt heads he chops off?
In Area 1 we were told yesterday that in the event of a Police involved shooting we were to go to the 002 Dist lobby and find 3 random citizens that are sprawled across the floor, buy each a bag of Flammin' Hots and an orange pop, then bring them up to be in the Round Table. We get 4 hrs tacked on our OT slip if we find the 3 that smell the most like old feet and ass.
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Because they have hired assholes on this job. I wish I could fire every cop that has ticketed other coppers.
12/02/2007 12:08:00 PM
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2211 1st watch is well known for that
12/02/2007 08:04:00 PM
keep a pack of matches in your pocket. suck on them it will throw the test
12/02/2007 09:39:00 PM
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suck on my nutsack--that'll throw the test too
Mr. Citizen--
No one is telling you that you can't have a rifle or shotgun in your house. I can't think of any example where a homeowner shot an intruder who broke into his house in a violent manner and got charged with anything except failure to register.
At least in Chicago!!!
The Union has the upper hand in disciplinary investigations because of the Contract and past practices of the Department.
Independent arbitrators have ruled previously that the Department cannot overrule what has been allowed previously unless the Union agrees to the changes.
As long as the Union, meaning Donohue and Pleines, stand tall the Department, the City, the Mayor, the Office of Independent Review, the Reverands and the Press cannot overturn past practices.
Keep the heat on the Union and we will see no change.
I'll take x-mas eve for the Peterson all-you-can-eat gun pool.
Hood is listed under ACORN housing which for the past several years has received $22,000 per year in city contracts as well as $65,000 from HUD funds to provide counseling for minorities looking for info on home purchasing and forclosures (at the rate of $35 per hour for a max of two hours per person). The $35 per hour rate is what they bid to get the city contract, don't know what they do for the fed money probably count the services they charge the city for to the feds as well.
Starks isn't moving into a new position, that commision has been around for a decade or more, they have come under fire for spending four dollars for every one dollar that is awarded to victims. The previous boss and his staff have been criticized for running businesses on the side as well as failure to disclose. They had a budget of 1.35 million. I believe the previous boss was Clarence N Woods.
CW had ties to real estate issues, gee doesn't RH have some similiar connections, what a tangled web.
Anonymous said...
Mr. Citizen--
No one is telling you that you can't have a rifle or shotgun in your house. I can't think of any example where a homeowner shot an intruder who broke into his house in a violent manner and got charged with anything except failure to register.
At least in Chicago!!!
12/03/2007 06:53:00 AM
So if I pop a choir boy with this baby im in the clear??Its a shotgun.
http://www.wraithmaker.com/
Awesome shotgun acessory.
keep a pack of matches in your pocket. suck on them it will throw the test
12/02/2007 09:39:00 PM
You cannot be that stupid? WTF? Where do you get such information? How does some one who is under arrest get matches to suck on? Nothing will defeat the breath machine except a refusal. Stop sucking on exhaust fumes and take a course on DUI investigation. You are a idiot.
To the civilian who posted 12/02/2007 @ 12:05 hrs, Hey jack ass you know what would happen if you shot someone who was breaking into your home?
Yes, the police would respond and yes the detectives would also continue the investigation and yes the police would ask the pertinent questions. And Quess what? You'd be cleared of any wrong doing! You are in defense of your family and your property. And since you are not the police, you have alot more room for "error". The probability of the shitbird's family of suing you are close to nil.
Yes if you had an unregistered gun in the home, it would be taken for ballistic examinations and confiscated.
And assuming you are not a convicted felon, you probably would not even be charged with an misdeameanor failure to register.
Move to the suburbs if you don't like certain laws asshole
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