Zero Tolerance for Infractions
Newly appointed Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis vowed Monday to overhaul the Police Department’s Internal Affairs Division, hold “roundtables” to investigate police shootings only after all of the facts are in and punish even the most minor police infractions to “set the tone” of zero-tolerance.
Weis said his No. 1 priority is to strengthen training and implement a system of punishment that’s fair, consistent and swift to restore public confidence shaken by allegations of excessive force, barroom brawls involving off-duty officers and an ongoing scandal in the disbanded Special Operations Section.
On the hot seat for nearly five hours at his City Council confirmation hearing, Weis promised to fire any officer accused of “lying, cheating, stealing, corruption and brutality.” But, he also talked about sweating the small stuff — by punishing even the most minor infractions.
“All too often, a sergeant or lieutenant may say, ‘That’s not a big deal. We’ll let that go.’ It may be a very minor violation. But, that does sometimes set the tone that . . . misconduct is gonna be condoned or accepted. . . . People will then feel free to . . . keep getting a little more bold and a little more bold,” said Weis, 50.
Who collapses first?
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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ITS ABOUT TIME! If this guy stands up to both the aldermen and the revvs, he'll have my vote for mayor!
011 district has no cars for five beats.The only thing thats saving it is that there is no people to man the rapids,so the unused rapid cars are used.
Predictably, none of the City Council inquisitors grilled Mr. Weis about initiating transparency and reforms to bring legitimacy to CPD assignments and promotions.
Purge the clouted and incompetent political hacks.
He must realize that Daley and his Council are just foxes "guarding" the CPD hen house.
Despicable politicians including brass have destroyed the Chicago Police Department. Self-perpetuating CLOUT is so deeply entrenched in the culture of the CPD, it would take at least a decade of attrition to bring about meaningful reforms.
Unless and until Mr. Weis starts cutting out the metastasized cancer of CLOUT, both the taxpayers and the CPD are doomed to a lack of professionalism, integrity and morale.
"Weis promised to fire any officer accused of lying, cheating, stealing, corruption and brutality. But, he also talked about sweating the small stuff — by punishing even the most minor infractions."
Those are big words from the guy who ordered a suborndinate agent under his supervision at FBI's Internal Affairs; the Office of Professional Responsiblity (OPR) to change a report about a Chicago Division agent (R.W) who spoke out about how the FBI messed up after 9/11. That agent (R.W) was fired and then after numerous hearings, the FBI was ordered to hire him back w/backpay. Food for thought, stay safe CPD. The burbs are always looking for quality coppers and you don't have to put up with King Ritchie and his sillyness.
ok... fcuk it... you can't be the police anymore... fine i will not... a new DOG has been born... fcuk it... they ain't going to back me up, fcuk them... everybody for themselves...
You poor, poor delusional fools.
Have you no knowledge of what awaits you. The day will come when you will wish for the likes of Dana Starks. Some of you have friends/contacts within the FEDS
that has ran afouled of this man in his quest for power and prestige. This man has all the attributes of Ron Huberman, the grace of Cynthia White and the leadship ability of Todd Stroger
If you think that the media take swipes at the lowly patrolman's, just wait till you get a load of his act. Be afraid, be very afraid. Talk with the people you know in the FEDS...
wow, that just told me everything I need to know from the new supts comments to the media.
1. Take the bullet, if someone pulls a gun-just stand there and die.
2. Don't be the police, because any accusation is now truth from the shitheads and criminals.
3. We are on trial. The police are criminals until proven innocent.
thanks. Why does anyone sign up?
If thighs were brains, Tina Skahill would be the smartest person in the world! And followed by Hillary Clinton.
Said it on another thread days ago...I hope no one is suprised with this. This is a member of the FBI. They hold the "fucking locals" as they refer to us, in paternalistic disdain at best. Check out the Sergeants as mothers and dads comment. Couldn't be more condescending on purpose. This is stutterers revenge, warfare on the rank and file. He will have bosses pulling numbers on every miniscule "violation of rules" imaginable. They will do it, because otherwise it is gonna be them. He even believes this shit, because he is an elitist and ivory tower fed, not a cop. For shit sake, it is even a criminal offense to lie to the Feds. Do you really think he is gonna have any understanding whatsoever of what its like to get mf'd by some shitbag banger, to have the second half of the domestic turn on you and be fighting both, to have shitbags (deep breath here) actually LIE about how they were treated?
The sheep are soon going to meet the wolves, this ain't gonna be pretty.
I love this. Are they forgeting that this is a f*cking JOB. People make mistakes. Sometimes as hard as they try, get to work late now and again. And sometimes your car actually breaks down on the way to court or won't start or your babysitter cancels last minute. Zero tolerance is good for some things like drinking and driving, beating your wife etc., but sometimes you need to let a boss be a boss and determine what the necessary punishment should be.
I know we have a strange job, but in other lines of work you need to make exceptions now and again, and i think this new guys needs to realize that.
Weis said he may recruit former FBI agents to take "a couple" of administrative positions in the department.
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And the Feds take over!!
Jody Weis, a career Federal Bureau of Investigation agent who took nearly four hours of questions from aldermen at a City Hall confirmation hearing Monday, also said he will seek to move some officers from desks back to the street.
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All you clout hacks pushing desks doing absolutly NOTHING better start calling your juice!
Haha!
If I need my taxes done, I'll call an FBI agent. Weis gets absolutly no respect from me until he earns it, and even then, it won't be much. He's not the police, so we shouldn't treat him one. It'll be joke if he wears a uniform.
The departments disciplinary system turned me into a dog.
within a year I missed court b/c my son woke up sick and couldn't attend school which in turn prevented me from going to court. Then agian in same year my car didn't start, causing me to miss court. And then one more time i honestly just plain forgot. So now i'm at the point where they are telling me that i'm going to take a day for this. Well i'm in court at least 7-10 times a month. I'm a pretty decent worker. So instead of these bosses realizing that shit happens once in a while that just prevents people from making it to court, they go ahead and hammer a hard worker. Well, in turn that's it for me. I've made sure that i'm never going to miss court again, and you wanna know how, b/c i'm done making any arrests. I can't believe it, but the last few months i have done diddly squat. Zero proactive policing. Unless i absolutely have to arrest the person on someone else's signed complaints, it aint happenin. It kinda feels good too. Not sure what i'm going to do with all this extra time... maybe i'll start a blog or something.
I sure hope this goofy looking prick with the funny name did not say that he will fire any Officer "accused of" lying, cheating,stealing, corruption and brutality.Does he know that any dirty son of a bitch can accuse you of any thing and that doesn't mean that it has merit. We are all fucked. It is going to be worse than before with the "guilty until proven innocent beyond a reasonable doubt" bullshit. I'm telling you people this guy don't look right in his eyes. He lacks character and it is written all over his shifty face. God forbid you mess up out here now. He is looking to show the media what a liberal, fucked up, Police despising prick he is.
Off topic, look at cover of Scum Times. Bush has large bad picture. Below him three(3) kids left behind. But if you look at these kids storys. "My classes have 35 kids nad I can't express myself". Kelly FREE SCHOOL". I attended Catholic scholl 35 + the norm and expresssing yourself? NO! Well I and all in my family have done very well. You see article just maoe Bush bashing crap!
Jody might say what "Da Mayor" wants him to say but doing it is another matter.
The Lodge still is a powerhouse regarding the disciplinary system and will remain so unless they bargain it away.
In 1997 the Department attempted to change the way disciplinary investigations are conducted. The Lodge, Shiela Burke & Bill Nolan, filed for expedited arbitration and presented their arguments. The testimony of several bosses helped prove that the City could not act arbitrarily and the City was told no.
In the newsletter Shiela called the ruling "the greatest victory the Lodge has ever had over the City".
Let us hope Donohue does not stab us in the back.
If you think morale is low now,and you have someone that is going to give you time or fire you for some small infraction,you won't even be able to say morale.
Looks like the rewriting of some of the rules and regulations is going to come into play.
You don't need an association (FOP) but a real Union that knows how to play hardball. Glad I'm out of it. sure is going to be interesting.
"He vowed to deploy officers "where the crime is" and to reassign to street duty officers "hiding out" at police headquarters and on medical rolls."
Why stop there? Check the districts' CAPS & front offices as well.
What I find so amusing is even an outsider,can see the mismanagement of manpower at HQ's and those abusing the medical, and our current "leaders" can't and/or refuse to.
I'll lay odds Daley will regret this appointment, long before the next election comes up. His next biggest challenge will be how to get rid of them, especially when they run out of consolation prize jobs to give these guys. Can Luberman's return be that far away?
“All too often, a sergeant or lieutenant may say, ‘That’s not a big deal. We’ll let that go.’ It may be a very minor violation. But, that does sometimes set the tone that . . . misconduct is gonna be condoned or accepted. . . ."
In my 21 years on the Job, that scenario has never happened. Unless the PO was sponsored by an Alderman was some Exempts Kid, nephew/niece etc. The oly thing that was let "go" was the Officer losig time because of suspension or even being terminated for some of the silliest shit. Because the Supervisor has a hardon& wanted to be an a-hole..
Now he wants the sgts to be our parents! If you think I am not working now, if they start writing us up for every little thing it will get worse! We are not required to write tickets,do traffic stops unless we have a call, or search the gang bangers on the corners or as a matter of fact arrest without complints how much more do they want us not to work? Bad idea Mr Supt!
eddie burke made some comments at the council with the new boss. maybe he could cut his detail and man up and offer his guys to patrol where they would actually work more than a few days a month!
Since JW participated in Public Corruption investigations in Chicago, he should be intimate witht the going on's of Ald. Ed Burke.
Burke has been in the sopes of the FBI for some time. He does have the trump card, Anne, to steer the sharks away.
Maybe this is a way to get the inside track into FBI investigations.
They (FBI) ain't gonna go after one of their own, unless unavoidable.
Start by removing Tobias from command of the academy.He was the boss of SOS and should take the heat for what those officers did when he was there.
I hope ReRun from the show What's Happening AKA : Tina Skahill is not our 1st Deputy, what a embarrassment.
I come from a police family, have only 7 years on the job myself.
I have been lookin at other depts. but did not have it in me to leave.
After all this crap, I am testing in a somewhat large southern city and my job life is goin to vastly improve. Congrats, Jody, I never did anything to make this dept. or other officers look bad, I make good arrests and still run around looking for bad guys. However, aldermen, so called reverends (aka racist SOB's) and the Mayor, have made this dept. so bad, I discourage any and all from joining it. Good luck to the rest of you please be safe and good luck with these idiots in charge.
Movin south!
4:47:
Well written by Shiela "buffet" Burke
HAPPY BIRTHDAY ELVIS!! I know you were the guy with Stacy Peterson in Kentucky!! Keep livin the dream King!!
It will be easy for the new Supt. to find lying, cheating, corruption, brutality, all he has to do is investigate the Chicago Politicians and their associates in gangs, organized crime, etc.
Of course, that won't be done though.
I can't believe it, but the last few months i have done diddly squat. Zero proactive policing. Unless i absolutely have to arrest the person on someone else's signed complaints, it aint happenin. It kinda feels good too. Not sure what i'm going to do with all this extra time... maybe i'll start a blog or something.
1/08/2008 03:31:00 AM.......WELCOME ABOARD!!!Use the free time to better yourself!Read something good.....not the usual newspapers and gun mags that coppers bring to work.Take time to eat somewhere nice......with plenty of time for digestion.Do your shopping,get a haircut.Unless you work in a complete shithole,you should be able to avoid making any arrest for the rest of your career.Here's a free tip,future superstar.....you know those time wasting holding the shoplifter calls??Where you spend 4 hours trying to get felony charges because some jerk off tried to steal 2 bottles of lysol???Give the security dork a GO report and tell him to get a warrant!Explain how our procedures have just changed and he can keep his receipts and dvd of the crime of the century.If the security is particularly obnoxious ask the thief,in a loud voice,if he has been mistreated,threatened,cuffed to tightly then offer to call it a draw.This can be a fantastic job,just don't let work fuck it up for you.
Zero tolerance won't get rid of a cop who breaks into stores at night, a cop who runs a few girls, or a cop who protects a drug gang: You have to do the hard work of catching those guys before you can zero-tolerate them.
On the other hand, they can throw the book at you if they catch you cooping, or using your car for a quick private trip, or losing your temper in a tough situation.
Zero tolerance is a total crock. In the schools, that sort of bullshit leads to kids being suspended for having a butter knife in their lunch box.
I am officially a dog copper. It's over. I burn gas, answer my calls and do nothing else.
P.S. Iron my shirt is some funny shit.
keep working boys and girls----the new sup made it loud and clear that he will hang you out to dry just to appease the aldermen and reverends
If thighs were brains, Tina Skahill would be the smartest person in the world!
1/08/2008 02:10:00 AM
Hey, SCC~
What's the point letting a remark like this get posted? If it was a commentary on someone's ABILITY, I'd understand it. But this is just a cheap shot. Come on, SCC. Please THINK before you let shit like this make the boards. It degrades the image of the boards to nothing more than the old bathroom wall.
Did "openly obnoxious" ald. tommy
get his questions in on how Jody is going to address the problems between the gay/transgender folks and the Police?
How bout hiring a platoon of T/Ss,
& after the academy, station them at Belmont/Clark, w/a Police sub
station at the D/Donuts.
One thing, it would be good for bringing unity between the fighten
019 and 023..............
"Weis promised to fire any officer accused of lying, cheating, stealing, corruption and brutality.
ACCUSED OF ?????????
We don't need an LAPD style department. It is NOT our culture. It is NOT the culture the CPD came about in. CPD is NOT far gone. We are NOT corrupt in any major sense. THe problems are political, and, until WEIS addresses that, gigging a patrolmen for long hair ... or whatever ..... is SILLY.
Just my 2 cents....
I hope it was a typo and not a Freudian slip when Weis said that he will move to fire officers "ACCUSED" of wrongdoing.
ok... fcuk it... you can't be the police anymore... fine i will not... a new DOG has been born... fcuk it... they ain't going to back me up, fcuk them... everybody for themselves...
1/08/2008 01:19:00 AM
Go to bed ya drunk.
Jodie Jodie 6 foot 4....
Jodie's never been whooped before..
Jodie thinks he lean and mean ...
Not even he can ....
Lo right le-0 ... lo righty le-o
When Weis says he's gonna put people that are "hiding" back on the street, does that mean Burke's body guard detail will be slashed.
.......that's what I thought.
To quote another blogger, "Meet the new boss same as the old boss."
The departments disciplinary system turned me into a dog.
within a year I missed court b/c my son woke up sick and couldn't attend school which in turn prevented me from going to court. Then agian in same year my car didn't start, causing me to miss court. And then one more time i honestly just plain forgot. So now i'm at the point where they are telling me that i'm going to take a day for this. Well i'm in court at least 7-10 times a month. I'm a pretty decent worker. So instead of these bosses realizing that shit happens once in a while that just prevents people from making it to court, they go ahead and hammer a hard worker. Well, in turn that's it for me. I've made sure that i'm never going to miss court again, and you wanna know how, b/c i'm done making any arrests. I can't believe it, but the last few months i have done diddly squat. Zero proactive policing. Unless i absolutely have to arrest the person on someone else's signed complaints, it aint happenin. It kinda feels good too. Not sure what i'm going to do with all this extra time... maybe i'll start a blog or something.
1/08/2008 03:31:00 AM
Quit ya fuckin' pussy. You had to take ONE DAY?
This guy/broad is part of the problem.
Thats the way it works. You miss court you might get jammed.
You say you're in court 7-10 times a month? Sounds like bullshit to me.
Nobody whats to stick up for a hard charger like you?
The ASAs probably beefed about your bullshit arrests.
This is typical politics...his comments put you on your toes uh huh thats right.......thats what they want,so as a old timer told me once...the way to get fired is to embarass the department..you have been forewarned...also he just gave bosses a whole lot of power in regard to your everyday misbehavior....can you say Cynthia White.........19p
Hate to do this "off topic" thing but can anyone explain this "Boston" schedule FOP supposedly has on the table?
Jody needs go through the academy and then work in these districts a month each, 002 (we'll start him off slow) 003, 004, 005, 006, 007, 008, 009, 010, 011, 015, 025
We all know stories of persons who are "untouchable" no matter how egregious their misbehavior.
"Those" people won't get punished anyway....
The burbs are always looking for quality coppers and you don't have to put up with King Ritchie and his sillyness.
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No suburban department will hire a Chicago copper. Especially these days. Ask any of the suburban cops who became cpd. They view us as heavy-handed, corrupt, incompetant fools.
They want some pimple-faced boyscout right out of college they can mold to their liking.
"He vowed to deploy officers "where the crime is" and to reassign to street duty officers "hiding out" at police headquarters and on medical rolls."
Why stop there? Check the districts' CAPS & front offices as well.
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Don't forget the "senior citizen office." No to mention every district having a desk crew of about 6 or 7. A desk can be manned by 3 people tops.
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unknown comic said...
If thighs were brains, Tina Skahill would be the smartest person in the world! And followed by Hillary Clinton.
1/08/2008 02:10:00 AM
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Now that was funny, although its a department infraction to say it and your in touble now, but I still laughed my ass off!
The days when I cared about anything on this job are long gone.
Weis? Who the fuck cares. I am in a beat car by myself, somehow I get through the day without getting hurt, that is all that matters.
My time left is divided by two because half of it will be spent legitimately on the medical getting shit fixed. I need several surgeries and accompanying l o n g recovery times.
Fuck Weis, fuck CPD, I just hope they don't take the medical before I am all fixed up again. Even so, I have a plan...
It sure feels good to be KMA.
Here is the man who wants to "indict one police officer a month" if elected States Attorney:
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Before Ald. Howard Brookins had trouble as a tenant, he got into trouble as a landlord.
Brookins, seeking the Democratic nomination for Cook County state's attorney, faced three lawsuits filed by the City of Chicago in the late 1990s arising from his ownership of properties on the South Side, records show. The suits alleged Brookins failed to provide heat and committed other infractions of the municipal code -- nearly a decade before he allegedly failed to pay rent on his downtown law office.
I JUST WANNA KNOW IF HE SIGNED A 4 YEAR CONTRACT AND BREAKS IT DOES HE HAVE TO REPAY COST FOR HIS TRAINING,STRESS HE'S PUT US THROUGH DURING THIS SUPER. SELECTION PROCESS AND DOES HE DRINK DUNKIN DONUTS COFFEE.
I know we have a strange job, but in other lines of work you need to make exceptions now and again, and i think this new guys needs to realize that.
Good point. I think its funny how people think this is a calling, although it does take a different bird to deal with a lot of what we deal with this still remains a job. I truly don't care if an arrest gets convicted unless they've hurt myself or another po and that again is only because this is a job. I realize that this was essentially a public job interview so I hope he uses commonsense or he is gonna lose us quick. As far as the "we r afraid of the police idea...could have fooled me, I was afraid of the police growing up so I did whatever I could to NOT get their attention.
Oh well gotta go its warm out, me and some other adults from the hood are gonna play some dice,drink,piss and fight all while I blast my stereo out of the upstairs window. Hopefully I won't be harassed!
Nice. Who needs due process for "accused" P/O's? The Peeps of the Cloth are speaking in tongues, praising the Maker for their good fortune ($$$).
Perhaps our new Führer is just shoveling shit in the Alderboobs and Bastard Reverends mouths because he knows that's what they want to hear. I'd like to think that, but that would be too calculated. But then again, the new Führer was not inbred CPD-style...
Might I suggest our new Führer take an early evening field trip to Douglas Blvd this summer? That way he can get a ringside seat to a representative slice of all the ghetto freaknik-“lying, cheating, stealing, corruption and brutality”-bullshit the CPD has to deal with. He will get a first-class education on the realities of policing the urban wonderland that is Chicago.
Only four more years to go, my friend...
DONAHUE SOMETIMES WISHES HE WAS A FED TOO. YOU KNOW ALL BUSINESS AND DETECTIVE LIKE. WHAT AN ASSHAT.
"On the hot seat for nearly five hours at his City Council confirmation hearing, Weis promised to fire any officer accused of “lying, cheating, stealing, corruption and brutality.” But, he also talked about sweating the small stuff — by punishing even the most minor infractions."
So we only have to be ACCUSED of this stuff to get fired. Oh well, nice working with you guys.
Mistakes happen.
Zero tolerance is a knee jerk reaction to human errors and a placating sermon to local revs et al.
Not too long ago an e-message to this blog had me , in my full glorious stupidity, use "per diem" rather than "per anum". The spell check dudes slammed me appropriately and promptly. Still it doesn't diminish the message.
But, a mistake, absolutely.
There shall be more, judgementally, spelling, grammar, who knows...but it points out human error and makes happen.
Maybe the true importance of a strong and supporting union will come back to the forefront by Jody's zero tolerance approach.
His use of the terms "accused" and "lying" were very disturbing to read, if accurate.
Sorry about any spelling errors in above, can't do anything at all about the sloppy thought process
-God's gift- bliss
So accusations will now get me fired??? That means even a dog at a desk can be fired if a punk accuses him of swearing at him during a report?? Wasnt this former FBI boss accused of a serious crime and was later found to be not guilty?? What bullshit.
Hopefully Weiss starts to learn some Lieutenant's scams like when there is a 90 (field Lieutenant) and say another Lieutenant is working that means in english that 90 gets the day off. Or how about when some Sergeants are held on the paper on day 6 but for some reason you never see them. This overhaul should be very interesting. But in the end it will be what King Richard want's and most certainly he will be controlling his puppet and taking care of all his people. This is just more nonsense for the public to eat up but normal smoke and mirror games!
Jody wants to talk about training and reform. He better know that when the new contract is passed it better show the FTO s the respect they deserve. D2A pay and the extra half hour. Someone told me they overheard a detective saying why should FTOs get their (detectives money D2A). We work with people that are new every 4 weeks. Its our job to groom these new kids and if you dont want to show us the respect and not pay us properly I can guarantee you I know there will be a huge number of FTOs resigning from the position.
What a freakin mess this is going to be!!! Oh well I'm leaving to the feds soon, so good luck officers. Get out while you're still young. Even if it's another municipality or federal,It can't be worse than this. I have friends in law enforcement, local and federal through out the U.S. and they are treated 100 times better than this department and city ever will. Once again get out while you still can, lives moves pretty fast, don't miss out on the opportunities.
1/08/2008 03:31:00 AM
I quit working too..instead of court, I went back to school...picked up a masters on the city's dime! (still looking for a phone call, however...)
Well i'm in court at least 7-10 times a month. I'm a pretty decent worker.
fuck your self hard.
you think we are that stupid
---The Lodge still is a powerhouse regarding the disciplinary system and will remain so unless they bargain it away.---
WHAAAAAT???? A powerhouse? Um, have you heard that now, if a sgt uses a tazer, even if he is follows protocol to a T, they have to pull a Log #, which will be investigated by ops (irpa, ipra, whoever)? Nice powerhouse! Maybe between rounds of golf, or perhaps as they sit in the building that WE completely paid for (although dues are the same, as if we still have a mortgage), they may get off their keisters and, I dunno, DO SOMETHING! Or at least make it look like they are doing something! I do THAT all the time, it's easy!
"Weis said, “When I ask a sergeant, ‘What’s your job?’ I want him or her to say, ‘To keep police officers out of trouble.’ I need them to be the moms and dads of the department — to walk around and make sure that our men and women are behaving themselves. . ."
Am I the only one who feels a bit insulted by this comment. Moms and Dads....behaving themselves. What the FUCK is this! I'll behave myself, as a matter of fact, that's all i'll do. Ladies and Gentlemen add my name to the list of those who vow to do nothing. Remember, no one was ever fired for being a dog ass. Who's with me??????????????
"But, he also talked about sweating the small stuff — by punishing even the most minor infractions."
You mean like shooting a guy in the head on an L platform??
On the hot seat for nearly five hours at his City Council confirmation hearing, Weis promised to fire any officer accused of “lying, cheating, stealing, corruption and brutality.” But, he also talked about sweating the small stuff — by punishing even the most minor infractions.
So joe shitbird "ACCUSES" me of brutality and the new supt. will fire me? Shouldn't he have said,"any officer found to have (fill in the blank)"
Just fire every PPO for 4 years to get the numbers up for the media.
Funny that Jodi didn't mention that he would fire any old fat exempt member sleeping with trampy police females.
I guess that is still considered an exempt benefit.
JUST DONT LIE ABOUT IT!
Hmmmmm, maybe we will see polished shoes at roll call now.
The lodge better not bargain away our rights (primarily in the disciplinary process) for a measly .0002% a year cost of living wage.
I say we get rid of WEIS and get us a black boss.
With a black boss in place, the public is passified even tough corruption is king.
Have a good day!
First thing he needs to do is go on some real rides with real working coppers in a ghetto district. Go to the first call where its mayhem in the house, pooky is cracked up and a-fightin, grammma and ahnty is throwin shoes at him fo messin wif da lil man, and when he yells out "FB...I mean, Chicago Police, everyone cease and desist while I determine what action must be taken" one of the Uncles from the back room whos been suckin on fotees starts swingin swingin a kitchen knife at him. Hopefully he takes him down, unc gets arrested and they all beef him before he....well, the paper guy finishes the job. Why sir, you have been accused of racism, brutality and impoliteness!!
Not the words I wanted to hear from Jody, sounds like an asshole already.
Well! As Gomer Pyle would've said upon hearing the new supernintendo... SUR-PRIIIISE, sur-priiiise, Sur-prise!!!!!! No more "proactive" policing, period! No more street stops with multiple heads on the hood. No more facing down shitheads, we will be expected to retreat in the face of adversity to safeguard our livelihood. There will be NO justification in the Department's eyes for you to take aggressive action to protect yourself or your fellow officers, it's cheaper to pay your family $250k and pin your star on the wall if you stand and "bravely" take the bullet. Training and punishment for the police is the best thing Weis could come up with?? (at the evil weevil's prompting of course.) The city has done EVERYTHING to circumvent the provisions of the sworn affidavit law so now we're essentially back at square one. What about these lying, stealing dishonest mutts in the public who want to get coppers jammed up? "Too bad office, you put yourself in that position." Weis is gonna sweat the small stuff?? I can see it now, "So what if your kid was sick & you had to take him/her to the e/r, here's your spar & here's 3 days without pay. Third time this year your kid was sick. I recommended 1 day but the superintendent said three." "Aw shucks cap'n, I really appreciate it." No more benefit of the doubt, supervisors will hit and hit HARD on disciplinary and I couldn't blame them, especially when they are going to be called into question, though i'm sure the "mother & father" remarks by the super rubbed everyone the wrong way. Training and punishment is what we have coming boys & girls!
hey jody we are not at will employess, minus the ppo's, we are protected by our contract, i hope, and with what you said that means every word from any shithead is taken as an absolute truth without due process..oh yea heres my complaint supernintendo weiss sexually harassed me earlier today your fired
hey jody u still crankin dat soulja boy everyday???
The new Supt. will need to brush up on the union contract......
HEY I KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, ABOUT THE ONLY THING JODY WILL BE DOING IS SANDBAGGING HARD WORKING NO-CLOUT POLICE OFFICERS. I CAN HONESTLY SAY IF YOU HAVE UNDER TEN YEARS LOOK TO THE SUBURBS, THEY ARE TESTING AND LOOKING FOR DECENT HARD WORKING COPS. A FRIEND OF MINE WENT TO ARLINGTON HEIGHTS A COUPLE YEARS AND LOVES IT.
Does anyone know if there is a website where you can watch the whole confimation hearing???
This has BAD NEWS written all over it. This is from past experience. I worked for a couple of companies that when the times were getting tough, the upper management brought in a "new guy" to run things. The 1st company went bankrupt because the guy didn't have related experience and had no clue how to run things. His background was being a Forest Preserve officer (tree hugger). He got paid the big bucks, though. The second company had to sit in federal court to explain why they, the upper management, were cheating public aid insurance. Of course, another outsider was hired in the turmoil. (got the big bucks and left) So, at $930,000.00 for the 3 yr contract, is it worth it? That's a lot of money to pay out. How much money is the next figure head going to get? Is it part of our police budget and is it going to affect our contract, cost of living wage, taxes? u-bet.
"The departments disciplinary system turned me into a dog...
within a year I missed court b/c my son woke up sick and couldn't attend school which in turn prevented me from going to court."
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You pussy. If a day suspension is all it took for you to turn your back on your job, then you weren't far away from being a dog anyway.
Your telling me that you were willing to put your health, even your life, on the line to take down a career criminal, but when some piece of sh!t CPD boss gave you a one or two day suspension, you just packed it in!
You are not much different than many other cops on this dept. Too many good cops will do all kinds of crazy stuff that puts their entire career, even their freedom, in jeopardy just to avoid a minor suspension.
This job isn't fair. One day one cop on the medical for two years will find Osama BinLaden in a cleaners, and get a golden statute of himself outside headquarters. The next day another cop will throw a stone cold jagoff off a porch and get scrutinized and emarrassed in the papers, even though he was completely justified.
I know there are big problems on this job, and I know the CPD and ASAs are out to get you. I know you have to be way more careful today than you did just a few years ago.
But goddamn, don't sweat the small stuff!
"We don't need an LAPD style department. It is NOT our culture. It is NOT the culture the CPD came about in. CPD is NOT far gone."
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I got news for you. The LAPD was not a problem either. Just before rampart, crime was going down. It was becoming a nicer place to live. Even their "ghettos" (which are nothing even close to the horrors that we work in) were improving.
The newspapers and television just kept beating the drum until the whole city turned against them. Then the news just waited for the one big story (Rodney King) to tear down the whole department.
Does this story sound familar?
Zero tolerance won't get rid of a cop who breaks into stores at night, a cop who runs a few girls, or a cop who protects a drug gang: You have to do the hard work of catching those guys before you can zero-tolerate them.
On the other hand, they can throw the book at you if they catch you cooping, or using your car for a quick private trip, or losing your temper in a tough situation.
Zero tolerance is a total crock. In the schools, that sort of bullshit leads to kids being suspended for having a butter knife in their lunch box.
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zero tolerence is used by people with no minds and can't think for themselves. Its a political word to make people think its ok now. It a bunch of shit, and wrong. Can't think with your mind, zero tolerence is the the word to use.
Zero tolerence is for ghetto school kids not the police.
Hey D2A pay for FTO's:
99% of FTO's are not only a disgrace to the department, they are a disgrace to humanity.
The only reason you are a FTO is because nobody will voluntarily work with you.
He better get the academy fileld , liek pronto! With all the acused that will be fired we will nedd tropps fast!
We are fucked! I am looking in Montanta to be the police, fuck this whole state!
I am also joing the ranks of the "Dog". Welcome boys welcome me!!! I am a memeber of the "do nothing " all day team.
Anonymous said...
Re:
unknown comic said...
If thighs were brains, Tina Skahill would be the smartest person in the world! And followed by Hillary Clinton.
1/08/2008 02:10:00 AM
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Now that was funny, although its a department infraction to say it and your in touble now, but I still laughed my ass off!
1/08/2008 10:30:00 AM
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If she doesn't care about her appearance why should the original author be in trouble? Nothing insubordinate about telling the truth.
Well i'm in court at least 7-10 times a month. I'm a pretty decent worker.
Well thats your problem. I havent been to court that many times in 9 or 10 years. I am a DOG and dam proud of it. I go to work, drink coffee, take a nap, get my 2 personals, dog a few event numbers, take my lunch, and after all that I go home to my family. I laugh at the "real police" listening to them chase a guy for dope. Im here for the paycheck, nothing more. This is a job and like all jobs it sucks! Save the "than quit" line for someone that cares cause I can give 2 sh*ts what some PO thinks about me. Im your worse nightmare a cop that doesnt care and one that isnt doing a dam thing for this city. Woof Woof Woof
There are the Oprah watching suburban matriarchs who beleive a free coffee at Starbucks is the genesis of police corruption. Not much different than the half-wit appointed capatain who thinks his watch will disolve if the two hardest working coppers drive around with the top shirt button un-done, and the clip-on tie slightly off center on the open collar. Wiess was picked and accepted a job offered by the leader of the biggest criminal organization in Chicago. Not a word was mentioned about the stolen promotions of the merit mutts. Or the sexual predators protected by gold star sponsors. If Wiess does not end merit promotions he is a fraud. If weiss limits discipline to the working blue shirt he is pathetic. But the shit left in this city deserve nothing more.
The city council meeting don't mean shit. All thats designed to do is justify their existence and meet the new boss. The new Super has to be a politician and obviously has to tell the council what they want to hear! I guess we will have to wait and see what he REALLY does in situations!
Does anyone know if the FBI agents are part of collective bargaining? I think Jody better bone up on management-labor relations. For a guy with some bad history he sure is a big talker.
Shiela Burke might have liked to graze a little but she came through when we needed her.
She is the individual who got Ray Risley to testify that the changes the Department were not needed and he had allowed them.
If she had not come through the IAD would of had the upper hand and we all would of suffered.
She and Bill Nolan looked out for us in 1997 and we probably will regret forcing them to leave the leadership of the FOP.
Anonymous said...
If thighs were brains, Tina Skahill would be the smartest person in the world!
1/08/2008 02:10:00 AM
Hey, SCC~
What's the point letting a remark like this get posted? If it was a commentary on someone's ABILITY, I'd understand it. But this is just a cheap shot. Come on, SCC. Please THINK before you let shit like this make the boards. It degrades the image of the boards to nothing more than the old bathroom wall.
1/08/2008 08:53:00 AM
It's a joke...lighten up Francis !!!
Well Well Well; the nickname Jodie's buddies in the "G" gave him while he was here before has been proven---"Jodie the jag off" seems like a fit.
"He vowed to deploy officers "where the crime is" and to reassign to street duty officers "hiding out" at police headquarters and on medical rolls."
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So the illegals and non-taxpayers get more service than those in good neighborhoods ... nothing has changed!
Jody should go to 006 and clean out ALL the rogue cops working there! 006 is off the hook with corruption and brutality!!!
Discipline away, not really worried pushing my beat car.
But if were all of a sudden gonna be legit then MERIT promotions should have posted qualifications so people can work toward the goal.
How can a 5 year wonder be a merit Sgt? They haven't even learned how to be the police yet.
There are some excellent officers who deserve a merit promotion! Not based on "phone call"!!!
Anonymous said...
"But, he also talked about sweating the small stuff — by punishing even the most minor infractions."
You mean like shooting a guy in the head on an L platform??
1/08/2008 11:52:00 AM
No you get a merit promotion for that!
what's the website that list police jobs??
********LIARS************
So YOU would have to be a FOOL to work for any of the hardcharging NUMBER getting LTS. SGTS. who are GOOFS and believe their CAREERS will be made from what they EXPECT of their men and the NUMBERS!
Yea ok BOSS keep running around like a fool, FOOLING yourself and your men that the more NUMBERS WE get the more HOMICIDES we PREVENT!
NO SEARCH WARRANTS & NO GOING TO THE HOUSE FOR CONSENT SEARCHES = NO GUNS
The PROACTIVE POLICE have come to RELAIZE how important RETIRING is and not being TOP COP!
Do not lie for THEM! Never did and never will!
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You want to know what is Lying?
This is Lying!!!!!
Lying is what is done to US!!!!!!
Lying is what is REPORTED at the DOC meetings!
Lying is what is CALCULATED for the YEAR END TALLIES of Homicides violent crime etc.
Lying to CLASSIFY a crime or situation!
Lying is telling US that there needs to be WORK DONE to PREVENT anything!
The City lies to the MEDIA and CITIZENS that the PODS WORK and they don't PREVENT anything!
Be CAREFUL GUYS......They want to HANG Pods and PEOPLE!!!!!!!
Hopefully Weiss starts to learn some Lieutenant's scams like when there is a 90 (field Lieutenant) and say another Lieutenant is working that means in english that 90 gets the day off. Or how about when some Sergeants are held on the paper on day 6 but for some reason you never see them. This overhaul should be very interesting. But in the end it will be what King Richard want's and most certainly he will be controlling his puppet and taking care of all his people. This is just more nonsense for the public to eat up but normal smoke and mirror games!
1/08/2008 11:20:00 AM
Well dumb fuck, pass a promotional exam and it could be you !
I remember back in 1972 when Raliegh Mathis was made the Cmdr. of the 3rd Dist. He assembled all the troops at the Museum of S & I . The first thing he said was , as long as I'm the Cmdr of this Dist . I promise that not $1 will pass over , under or around my desk. Then he said , and if I catch anyone of you taking so much as a candy bar , I will do my best to send you to the joint . That was the first time he had ever met any of us. Needless to say as of that day nobody did anything and most tried to leave. Sounds like JODY is on the same track. Be careful out there , nobody likes us.
And what about the clout promotions.....er, I mean "merit"....(WWJD) what will Jody do? Inquiring minds want to know.
A word to aldercreature Zalewski. It is time to get off your bar stool and speak a few words of wisdom. But make sure you sober up first.. We might make you blow the breathalyzer.. Next time I see you getting off your barstool on archer. I am going to run out to my car and grab my new HD camcorder. You would look really nice on you tube stumbling into your car.
I've been a Sergeant for 8 years and I'm not a fucking babysitter or your mother or father..My job is to make sure you go home safe to your families and don't go to prison...We are all adults, I am paid to make the hard decisions and to take the blame for them. We all live in the real world and EVERYBODY makes mistakes from time to time. We are by no means perfect. If you are a thug, criminal, fuck you, you don't belong on the job. If you are a decent hard working officer, I'll do the best I can to take care of you when I can. My fear is that the day has come where us first-line supervisors lose OUR discretion. Too bad, managing people is not black and white, it's all grey (or gray for you snooty assholes)
The only Coppers who are gonna get fucked over will be those with no clout.Same shit,different boss.
PLEASE folks pay attention to who you vote for with the upcoming FOP elections! We need strong, and I mean strong leaders in our FOP who are there to represent US and NOT "in bed" with the city. Our new supe better get acquainted with our FOP before he starts to "fire" everyone and pookie has a beef with.
Yawn...in KMA club. I/F
...WHAAAAAT???? A powerhouse? Um, have you heard that now, if a sgt uses a tazer, even if he is follows protocol to a T, they have to pull a Log #, which will be investigated by ops (irpa, ipra, whoever)? Nice powerhouse!...
Um...Sgts are in a different union.
Wasn't tunney trying to get rid of all the transex- oops -I guess that was transfats, sorry, my mistake!
Im sure hundreds of transexuals pacing back & forth in front of Ann Sathers on Belmont will be good for business and property values...
Ok Fine but how about giving out the awards that were due to POs. Some were killed becasue they werent put in for within 60 days. It is one thing to punish but the correct management tool would be to reward good behavior or good police work.
little dick daley lies, cheats, steals,is corrupt and brutal.If he can do it why can't we.I'll have faith in this guy if he goes after the real lawbreaker FIRST.
Jody, please get IAD in line and get rid of the ones with clout or give out the "tips" to their blood and friends who are being investigated.
Also, what about doing something about those who live outside the city? Can I live outside the city 'cause I know of some who do and still collect a paycheck. Not fair to the majority of us who play by the rules.
TO 01-08-08 04:47:00am:
The lodge?! you gotta be kidding me!!!!!!!!! They're freaking USELESS!!!!!
This "zero tolerance" thing is right from Daley, weis is just parroting the boss man. Daley believes that Matt and the SOS crew he empowered would somehow have restrained themselves from their home invasions and robbery if inspectors were out there hammering beat cops for going over on their lunch break a few minutes. This is insanity of a special sort.
To: Superintendent Jody Weis
From: A District Sergeant
Subject: Chicago Police Department
If you want me to be a Mother and Father, I can do that for you. If you want me to instill discipline, I can do that for you. If you want me to lead by example, I can do that for you. If you want me to reward good jobs with Honorable Mentions or Dept. Commondations, I can do that for you. If you want me to train recruits since the Academy does not, I can do that for you.
These are the same things that I've been doing anyway for all the years I've been a Sergeant. What I can't do is supervise 15-17 cars a day on my log. Be at every job for each and every car. See everyone twice without exception on a busy day. Identify the movements of each patrol officer over an eight hour period. Conduct outdoor roll calls for the W/C or seat belt missions for the Commander.
You see Supt., we are not nor ever have been fully staffed. Two Sergeants a day on the street just doesn't cut it. Sure the sheets say there is a spot for a 10,20,30,40, & 50. Not likely. When you tell your boss to honestly fill the positions that are alloted then you can talk to me about being accountable. Walk a mile in my shoes.....
This is not an office job (at least not for those in patrol) with coffee and donuts on our desk. This can be a life or death venture. (We are not the FBI). We need to be on our game every time we work or we could lose the game. You see Mr. Weis, every industry has bad apples. Granted, we have done a piss poor job of weeding out the deviants. Condemning the hard worker to set an example could prove to be a mistake from which you may not recover. I give you credit for looking at "the bad apples". I think you need to address morale, not decrease morale. We have suffered from the bad press as well. Our image has been tarnished. Don't you think that the good officers feel bad about what has occurred? Of course, we do.
Before things happen that cannot be undone I urge you come in here and look,listen, and learn before any irreparable harm is done. Appreciate the good, correct the bad, displace the extra baggage (35th street - 127 Sergeants - 18/20 Cline created Deputy, DS, Chief, and Dep. Chief jobs), have some GONADS. The mayor hired YOU, not some CPD lackey to direct you. If that happens it will be business as usual. Be your own person and direct this department. They are yearning for leadership especially after Leroy (where's your hat) Martin, Matt (gimme a double) Rodriguez, Terry (mumblin and bumblin and stumblin) Hillard, and Phil (let me promote as many incompetent friends as I can) Cline.
Good Luck Mr. Weis. You will need it.
01-08-08 09:50:00
Hey what about 016?! He can learn how to deal with all the name dropping assholes up here.....Oh yeah,and dont drive drunk through here mr. fed or you're really fucked!....That is if you like to pound them down once in awhile.
to 1/08/2008 03:29:00 PM
I agree, and add that even people with over 10 years are vested. You will get some annuity when you turn 50 in addition to working in another department.
Hopefully Weiss starts to learn some Lieutenant's scams like when there is a 90 (field Lieutenant) and say another Lieutenant is working that means in english that 90 gets the day off. Or how about when some Sergeants are held on the paper on day 6 but for some reason you never see them. This overhaul should be very interesting. But in the end it will be what King Richard want's and most certainly he will be controlling his puppet and taking care of all his people. This is just more nonsense for the public to eat up but normal smoke and mirror games!
1/08/2008 11:20:00 AM
you must be from up north because there is never 2 lt's and enough sgt's to carry anyone down south. well it is so true that the biggest dogs don't do anything but they sure know everything that someone else got that they didn't.
its the least they deserve for dealing with dogs, they can screw up 10x's and the 11th u are forced to write them up for some mistake they made and your the asshole.
the problem with our department is to many refuse to take responsibility for their own actions, they are so worried about what everyone else is doing that they forget what they are not doing.
heard from a fed that this guy is not well liked and is probably going to destroy any morale left.
Speaking of hiding P.O.'s...get this D/C Caluris is taking resumes and applications for anyone in OCD who wants to be a part of the new "analytical team" over at Homan Sq. This group of full duty P.O.'s will be responsible for doing exactly what the Doc already does. My educated guess is that he is trying to help to "hide" some of the full duty clout heavies that will bite the dust down at HQ. I have no clue why he is taking apps and resumes, I'm sure he already knows who he plans to hide!
LOL!!
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How about old fat exempt females being fired for sleeping with trampy male p.o.'s???
if it's good for the goose then it's plenty good for the gander!
The way I figure, if you don't do things that are wrong/illegal then you have nothing to worry about from our new boss and as a BONUS you can sleep at night. On the other hand, if you are a dirty cop, then you do have to fear the new boss in town. It makes me wonder why some people are so darn worried?
The Lodge still is a powerhouse regarding the disciplinary system and will remain so unless they bargain it away.
In 1997 the Department attempted to change the way disciplinary investigations are conducted. The Lodge, Shiela Burke & Bill Nolan, filed for expedited arbitration and presented their arguments. The testimony of several bosses helped prove that the City could not act arbitrarily and the City was told no.
In the newsletter Shiela called the ruling "the greatest victory the Lodge has ever had over the City".
Let us hope Donohue does not stab us in the back.
1/08/2008 04:47:00 AM
True, the Lodge remains a powerhouse. However, the individual that so rankled the Department that they try to change the rules on discipline is still working at the FOP. He is also the same person that got a former IAD boss to testify for the Lodge in that particular case. Given these facts, why would you suggest that Donohue would stab us in the back? Get real.
Also, check the win/loss stats on arbitrations during the Nolan regime versus the Donohue era. Donohue smokes old Nolan and his crew hands down. Finally, where was the Nolan gang on retiree healthcare? Mark Donohue is responsible for the study that exposed the City overcharging retirees.
Will Weis be looking into the tremendous amount of scamming done by the talented day sgts of a particular Detective Area? Especially the dynamic duo of Zeus and Pulaski...I mean...Ego and Eggo. Can one man change years of abuse? 8 for 8? 6 day work week?
or is it 5 for 8 and 5 day work week? Oh, hell J.P will set 'em straight. Cant wait till we all swipe in and out! Scam u later!
DONAHUE SOMETIMES WISHES HE WAS A FED TOO. YOU KNOW ALL BUSINESS AND DETECTIVE LIKE. WHAT AN ASSHAT.
1/08/2008 10:49:00 AM
Hey Mr. I WRITE IN ALL CAPS like a fucking two-year-old,
Here's an idea: Be a man and say it to has face. Say what? Oh, yes, I see. You're a big pussy. Donohue would kick your girly ass.
Lets see punish the most minor infractions...yet insist your fair. Then when someone screws up ask the Sgt. where he was. Probably in the station working on the CR which should be OPS's job as they are supposedly independent.
this is gonna be interesting. If they want complete compliance with every state statute and dept rule that is what they will get. You could do a whole tour in the ghetto and spend 90 percent of it on tvb's, cannabis arrests, and arrests for easy misdemeanors and you wouldn't even have to be very aggressive. If he wnats us to act like Naperville cops we will. No units will be available for jobs.
Ald Burke believes Jody will be a big hit with the rank and file because after he punishes them for the most minor infractions hes willing to drink coffee with them on midnights. How bout he really earns our respect by being real with discipline after all it hasnt been the boys in uniform screwing up lately. Or better yet how about he impresses us by getting into a foot chase in Englewood on midnights and getting a gun. Not one of those showboat kicking down the door stuff Cline did either.
My guess is proactive police work gives its last breath under Jodie.
WHAAAAAT???? A powerhouse? Um, have you heard that now, if a sgt uses a tazer, even if he is follows protocol to a T, they have to pull a Log #, which will be investigated by ops (irpa, ipra, whoever)? Nice powerhouse! Maybe between rounds of golf, or perhaps as they sit in the building that WE completely paid for (although dues are the same, as if we still have a mortgage), they may get off their keisters and, I dunno, DO SOMETHING! Or at least make it look like they are doing something! I do THAT all the time, it's easy!
1/08/2008 11:36:00 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen,
You just had the pleasure of reading the single most stupid post so far in 2008. First, Sergeants and their silly cattle prods are not represented by the Lodge, or even the FOP for that matter. Second, the "log #" issue has been resolved in our favor by the Lodge. Look into it.
Little Miss, you can pick up your dipshit award at the PBPA offices, if you can ever find them. I bid you good hunting, Shit for Brains.
The men on the streets will be the ones getting nailed. The clout babies in units and tact will still get their way...even thou most of the people indicted recently were their type.
How about disciplining the bosses who clouted got these guys into their units or tact teams.
Jody should check and see how many tact/gang teams actually work 8 hrs.
Although the comment about sergeants being our "moms and dads" was insulting----after all JP it was not the new kids on the job in the news recently---I noticed that the section about officers accused of wrong-doing wasn't in quotes----does a transcript exist? Very possible that Weis' comments were taken out of context and he didn't say that accused officers would be fired.
To the F/1 who drives the Navy unmarked in 022, stop driving like an asshole. M118169. I don't know if you are the police or some civilian with big clout. You obviously have a take home car and you use it royally. Picking up 3 kids after school at Clissold and repeatedly running stop signs is stupid. Yesterday you did it again and almost ran into me. I am also picking up my kids, but in my personal car and I am not looking to get killed or hit the ghetto lotto. It's people like you that give the police a bad name even though you may not be. Those M plates are thought of as all police vehicles, but I doubt that you are. Wish I had your juice because sooner or later you are going to have an accident with those 3 kids and some poor copper from 022 will have to help your ass out.
i consider myself a working p.o. answer my calls, get my parkers and mover everyday, back up my fellow po's and try to get an arrest or two a day. I think though that I am not ready to stop doing work yet at all considering i only have 3 years on but I really feel we should just write a few parkers and answer our domestic calls and thats it.
people.... we are at a time when we are being looked at by everyone in the city. i think we really need to let the crime stats skyrocket for a few months. you have to understand... if the crime rate goes up drastically and reports of these crimes are actually taken, and not 19 pauled, then that makes the exempts look bad, which makes the new supe look bad which makes the mayor look horrible. please people, give it a few months. dont do anything, then once we are appreciated we can go back to work and start to be aggressive again. all we are doing is hurting ourselves by still proactive policework. I really feel that responsible and well liked people in each district on the watches needs to preach this and get people on board.
this doesnt mean that we are becoming dogs and laying down, it means we are sending a sign and not laying down to the alderman and the public. please people, start preaching this to your fellow workers, obviously the tru unit and tac teams are going to work because they have to, but with patrol doing a minimum, we will send a sign that we will not tolerate this treatment.
WEIS is pronounced weese.
Hmmmm, Supt. Weesey? Like in the Jeffersons?
Mr. Weis WELCOME TO CHICAGO, However, Watch your ASS, were watching yours too. Signed the Rank and File.
If you read between the lines accused of lying,stealing,etc. you will be fired means. Guilty until proven innocent.
Anonymous said...
"But, he also talked about sweating the small stuff — by punishing even the most minor infractions."
You mean like shooting a guy in the head on an L platform??
1/08/2008 11:52:00 AM
But if you have clout you get promoted to dic, then your such an idiot you state "I knew I should of not shot him" anyone without clout would of been fired immediately guess no clout you are gone!
d2a pay for fto s said...
Jody wants to talk about training and reform. He better know that when the new contract is passed it better show the FTO s the respect they deserve. D2A pay and the extra half hour. Someone told me they overheard a detective saying why should FTOs get their (detectives money D2A). We work with people that are new every 4 weeks. Its our job to groom these new kids and if you dont want to show us the respect and not pay us properly I can guarantee you I know there will be a huge number of FTOs resigning from the position.
1/08/2008 11:22:00 AM
Lets be like the dics all the overtime for not being there he should reform that bullshit! hey he could start with all the sgts there that give all the ilgotten overtime!
Anonymous said...
“All too often, a sergeant or lieutenant may say, ‘That’s not a big deal. We’ll let that go.’ It may be a very minor violation. But, that does sometimes set the tone that . . . misconduct is gonna be condoned or accepted. . . ."
In my 21 years on the Job, that scenario has never happened. Unless the PO was sponsored by an Alderman was some Exempts Kid, nephew/niece etc. The oly thing that was let "go" was the Officer losig time because of suspension or even being terminated for some of the silliest shit. Because the Supervisor has a hardon& wanted to be an a-hole..
1/08/2008 07:01:00 AM
I am utterly amazed that police officers have been fired to avenge a supervisor's hardon for a police officer. How is that fair? Have you guys ever heard of an unfair labor practice lawsuit? Contrary to popular belief police officers have rights. Police officers have Constitutional Rights,the protection of labor law,the Uniform Peace Officers Act,Garrity Rule,Weingarten Rule,collective bargaining rights and so on.
You CAN NOT BE FIRED LEGALLY FOR A SUPERVISOR HAVING A HARDON FOR YOU OR FOR BEING ACCUSED OF SOMETHING.
I find it hard to believe this could have ever occured to any policeman/woman but judging by your new Superintendent's comments it is more than possible.
What kind of silly shit have police officers been fired for based upon a supervisor's hardon? Was there litigation and how did it end? Is this a predominant problem on the CPD? Does the CPD union provide competent legal assistance? Is there a need for competent legal representation?
I urge civil litigation immediately to rectify any wrongs.
No suburban department will hire a Chicago copper. Especially these days. Ask any of the suburban cops who became cpd. They view us as heavy-handed, corrupt, incompetant fools.
They want some pimple-faced boyscout right out of college they can mold to their liking.
1/08/2008 09:55:00 AM
Oh sure, like the rookie in Oak Lawn robbing Latino motorists, sell that shit to the tourists 09:55:00 AM you day light twit.
Got some cold beers @ the house 63rd & Wallace...
Come on by, I want to show you what I've done to the basement...
"Hmmmmm, maybe we will see polished shoes at roll call now.
1/08/2008 12:54:00 PM"
Yeah Ok whiteshirt,for practical the Roaches can just slide off your shoes. You the same assclown that has the Inspector @ checkoff of so he can write you up for an infraction after having spent a tour in the muck& slop of the urban landscape. Real Morale Booster...
Wait till this hair-gel Fed throws us under the bus...Im turning straight up dawg...woof woof
I got an idea, soon as a copper swears to tell the truth in court, get a CR number on him/her.
Anonymous said...
Ald Burke believes Jody will be a big hit with the rank and file because after he punishes them for the most minor infractions hes willing to drink coffee with them on midnights. How bout he really earns our respect by being real with discipline after all it hasnt been the boys in uniform screwing up lately. Or better yet how about he impresses us by getting into a foot chase in Englewood on midnights and getting a gun. Not one of those showboat kicking down the door stuff Cline did either.
My guess is proactive police work gives its last breath under Jodie.
1/08/2008 08:57:00 PM
Or how about eddie is forced to only have 1 driver not 2 or more on duty so he can sit in the? Give up your detail ed it would show you care about the citizens quit being the king! Your a multi-millionaire buy your own security!
11;20Am
Sir, You are a perfect example why this job went to shit.
All Feds are ASSHOLES. Remember Agent Hansen who sold secrets to the Russians for some cash...some American spies got killed because of it. Hansen got a life sentence in the Federal Pen for treason but, Hansen should have been executed.
This fucker "Jody" is just another jag off. He's going to stroke the public and fuck us in the rear for little shit that nobody really gives a fuck about -- he isn’'t going to solve any real problems on the Department like improving moral, merit promotions or other important concerns. We will continue to fight for a contract and fairness. Crime stats will increase. And by next year the Mayor will be trying to find a way to get rid of this loser. Meanwhile he's going bring in all his fed buddies into the CPD. IAD will be ran by an ex-fbi agent. 1st Deputy maybe too or some CPD exempt assholes who attended the FBI Academy. Don't trust any of them they are users and will burn you if you fuck up.
Best thing to do is nothing and wait it out. The public won't stand by and allow this hand job to fuck up a good thing. If the City can hand out 19 million bucks to illusionary tortured hood rats believe me they can buy out Mr. Weasel’s three year contract – trust me brothers and sisters lay down and wait for the second coming.
Supt. Weis, I am neither their mother or father, I am their brother and none of the citys BS will change that. Hang tight fellow Officers, this ship is a sinkin.
Anonymous said...
Hopefully Weiss starts to learn some Lieutenant's scams like when there is a 90 (field Lieutenant) and say another Lieutenant is working that means in english that 90 gets the day off. Or how about when some Sergeants are held on the paper on day 6 but for some reason you never see them. This overhaul should be very interesting. But in the end it will be what King Richard want's and most certainly he will be controlling his puppet and taking care of all his people. This is just more nonsense for the public to eat up but normal smoke and mirror games!
1/08/2008 11:20:00 AM
Good idea! But let's don't stop there. Have Jody hit you crybaby prima donna tact and gang guys that want to cut out early on your "Friday" without dropping a slip. Not to mention you dog asses who like to take those late lunches. Where is your time due slips for those dates ? When Sgts and Lts do it its a scam when po's do it it's a perk.
Don't worry when Jody hits the white shirts, we'll have plenty of blueshirted company on our way down that slippery slope.
Asshats.
at police headquarters and on medical rolls."
Why stop there? Check the districts' CAPS & front
The CPD has the lowest medical roll usage of any big city Department. Truth be told.
Well, after seeing and hearing "Weez" on TV last night from Shitcago I can only suggest y'all start getting in the habit of going on Saturdays....stay safe you guys/gals! Retire as soon as possible - it's GRRRRRREAT!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey D2A pay for FTO's:
99% of FTO's are not only a disgrace to the department, they are a disgrace to humanity.
The only reason you are a FTO is because nobody will voluntarily work with you.
TOOOOOO funny! Yet your right
Will the Evil Weevil just go ahead and have a grabber already??
If you want me to be a Mother and Father, I can do that for you. If you want me to instill discipline, I
You Sir are a prick. Do not disrespect my Mother or Father who are both deceased they were wonderful parents. Understand something I have never meet a sgt who could hold a candle to my Parents and I have 27 years on this cesspool of a department.
After reading the interview and seing things on here I just want to tell you what I told my son. I retired in August and my son has a few years on the job. This ain't your fathers police department. Be careful boys and girls. No one is watching your back for you anymore.
I am utterly amazed that police officers have been fired to avenge a supervisor's hardon for a police officer. How is that fair? Have you guys ever heard of an unfair labor practice lawsuit? Contrary to popular belief police officers have rights. Police officers have Constitutional Rights,the protection of labor law,the Uniform Peace Officers Act,Garrity Rule,Weingarten Rule,collective bargaining rights and so on.
You CAN NOT BE FIRED LEGALLY FOR A SUPERVISOR HAVING A HARDON FOR YOU OR FOR BEING ACCUSED OF SOMETHING.
I find it hard to believe this could have ever occured to any policeman/woman but judging by your new Superintendent's comments it is more than possible.
What kind of silly shit have police officers been fired for based upon a supervisor's hardon? Was there litigation and how did it end? Is this a predominant problem on the CPD? Does the CPD union provide competent legal assistance? Is there a need for competent legal representation?
I urge civil litigation immediately to rectify any
And you are in Never-never land ask any Attorney and they will laugh in your face> My son works for the EEOC You can do nothing but take it in the ass. What a moron you are.
H H HOLMES said...
No suburban department will hire a Chicago copper. Especially these days. Ask any of the suburban cops who became cpd. They view us as heavy-handed, corrupt, incompetant fools.
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ok Drew Peterson. Read the papers, Suburban officers do stupid shit all of the time. The difference is no one cares about some suburban officer messing up because the suburbs don't bow down to the citizens when it comes to lawsuits. Why is it that the suburbs even with the increased crime, still function with the same amount of officers? The criminals respect them and fear them because unlike cpd they have REAL weapons and brass who back them up. Look at Bolingbrook-why aren't all of the numner 1's claiming racial profiling or police brutality. Like I said it's not as easy to sue the burbs as it is the city plus the ghetto reverends are in the city.
Well thats your problem. I havent been to court that many times in 9 or 10 years. I am a DOG and dam proud of it. I go to work, drink coffee, take a nap, get my 2 personals, dog a few event numbers, take my lunch, and after all that I go home to my family. I laugh at the "real police" listening to them chase a guy for dope. Im here for the paycheck, nothing more. This is a job and like all jobs it sucks! Save the "than quit" line for someone that cares cause I can give 2 sh*ts what some PO thinks about me. Im your worse nightmare a cop that doesnt care and one that isnt doing a dam thing for this city. Woof Woof Woof
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thats fine and all..but im sure your the type that wouldnt even go to a po needing help or a 10-1.. you sir are the reasons that police get hurt or killed. i dont care if your a dog on this job and that you dont do anything, that doesnt bother me. what bothers me is that im sure your personal life sucks. you live in your mothers basement and are single. im sure youve never gotten laid. you are a miserable f*uck. keep gettin your checks brother, youll need that money when you retire by yourself...mom!!! wheres the meatloaf damn it!!!!
Does this make sense to anyone?
Chief of patrol (or whatever he's called now) has the Area Deputy Chief's under him. Ratio of boss to immediate subordinates: 1 to 5
Area Dep Chiefs have Commanders under them. Ratio of boss to immediate subordinates: 1 to 5.
District Commanders have 3 watch Commanders under them. Ratio of boss to immediate subordinates: 1 to 3.
WC has One or two Lt.s under him. Ratio of boss to immediate subordinates: 1 to 2 (or 1 to one)
Lts have Sgts under them. Ratio of boss to immediate subordinate: 1 to (at most) 5, more likely 1 to 3, on a given day.
Sgts have the patrolmen under them. Ratio of boss to immediate subordinate: anywhere from 1 to 10 to 1 to 18/20 depending upon manpower (number of patrolmen or sgts working) on a given day.
Now let me add that the new Supe has stated that he will hold first line supervisors (Sgts) responsible for the actions of their subordinates. I am a Sgt and I am willing to take on (and I do, daily) that responsibility. But how can the department think that we can supervise those types of numbers of people and do it correctly and safely. The job of Sgt is, as previously stated, to ensure that everyone gets through the tour safely, and without getting in trouble. So I will say this to Supt. Weis:
You want this done correctly? Then get more patrol officers onto the street, any way that you can. Clean out Headquarters, downsize tru and other specialized units, making them more manageable and responsive to their particular mission. Then promote a couple hundred Sergeants and 75-100 Lieutenants. Then and only then will you have even a chance of having the patrol division run correctly. We will discuss equipment in a future post. I'm tired and want to get some sleep.
But one more thing. This is for you Watch Commanders out there. And remember, this is a district Sgt speaking. Sir or Maam, please get the Sgt's that are working on your shift out of the WC office and others from hanging around the desk. The work of a supervisor (except the desk sgt) is out on the street. That's where we are needed and that's where the patrol officers expect us to be. And it's where we should be.
Good Night.
most of us will never meet him. if you get in trouble and get stripped he will be signing off on recommended punishment from ops/iad. 30 pending or a lot of time off. the watch pooches never get in trouble- its always the working guys. if you want to see your pension turn into a pooch. get coffee, carwash, gas, supplies, go to calls, hang paper, and back each other up. its hard to walk away from the court time but it can be done.
to 1/08/2008 04:58:00PM, Please tell me about Rogue cops?? If you knew of what you claim, then you may say clean out the DC!!, not the poor morons that actually try to work for him and listen to him.
To quote another blogger, "Meet the new boss same as the old boss."
1/08/2008 09:27:00 AM
Does Pete Townsend read the blog? Sweet!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
...WHAAAAAT???? A powerhouse? Um, have you heard that now, if a sgt uses a tazer, even if he is follows protocol to a T, they have to pull a Log #, which will be investigated by ops (irpa, ipra, whoever)? Nice powerhouse!...
Um...Sgts are in a different union.
1/08/2008 06:29:00 PM
Yes, but WE call THEM to help US out...so it is a safety issue for US, and it results in discipline if used to help us out....sounds like a union issue to me...
---Perhaps our new Führer----
HEY, how did you get the little dots over the u? Can you do it over an o, so that motorhead is finally spelled correctly? Gotta love that lemmy...
A letter to Mr. Weis:
Dear Jody,
As you embark on your journey as Chicago's "New Top Cop" I would like to give you some information I doubt anyone else has told you.
We as a department are one of the last and maybe only cities to still make their people work six days in a row. When we leave roll call to get our radios and cars it is kind of like a crap shoot. Will I have my regular car, is it in the shop, if so was I one of the lucky few to get a pool,if not will I get that one car nobody else will drive? I know no one will drive that one because the door won't close all the way, it never as a computer, the seat is broken and the siren just crys. How about my radio, will my battery last eight hours if not will it die out in the middle of following a hot car or better yet when I am in the middle of 20 kids fighting? If your in the mood to answer questions Mr. Weis how does a district operate properly when they are down 5 vheicles and the batteries should have bee changed out 2 years ago? But then again we usually don't have enough man power to man all the cars so I guess in a way we are OK.
As for "bad cops" yes there are some but far less than the "citizens" and media of Chicago want you to believe there are. Remember when we put that unifrom on everyday we are getting dressed for work and we do it just like every other human being, one leg at a time. Just like any other human we make mistakes as well. One thing is for sure, everyone regardless of which side of the fence your on wants to go home to their family at the end of the day.
As for the new title you have given to the Sergeants and Lieutenants "mom & dad" bravo! The Sgts especially don't have enough crap on their plate. Tell me Mr. Weis are we going to have one Sgt for every P/O or maybe two P/Os or will we stick to having 2 Sgts for every 10 cars? Or better yet 1 Sgt for the whole watch? Oh wait we don't have that many coppers or cars anyway so no big deal. RIGHT!!!
The point of my ranting Mr. Weis is this: We as members of the Chicago Police Department are in a funk. Everyone wants us to be the bad guy rather than the good guy. We are tired of having to defend ourselves because of a few bad apples. We are tired of working with inferior or no equipment and no manpower. We are tired because we have to go to work, court, special employment and/or a side job just to make ends meet and give our families a good life. These Mr. Weis are things you will never experience and therefore never understand so please do us a favor and don't tell us you do. Just pretend you can while you collect that $300,000+ salary and remember when you sit down for that cup of coffee with a midnight officer or any other officer for that matter ask them how they feel about the job. My guess is you will hear several versions of the above story but most of all you will hear the words "I am proud to be a Chicago cop."
Cut out the cancerous moles at the airports. start with the pus filled sack:JC
All of you know what the Joker said: "Wait 'til they get a load of me"
"toughens your nipples" doesn't it.
"All Feds are ASSHOLES. Remember Agent Hansen who sold secrets to the Russians for some cash...some American spies got killed because of it. Hansen got a life sentence in the Federal Pen for treason but, Hansen should have been executed."
Bad example he was one of us before he turned G man
And you are in Never-never land ask any Attorney and they will laugh in your face> My son works for the EEOC You can do nothing but take it in the ass. What a moron you are.
1/09/2008 12:18:00 AM
You are quite uninformed. The EEOC is a federal agency that monitors discrimination in the workplace not unfair labor practices per se.
---Perhaps our new Führer----
HEY, how did you get the little dots over the u? Can you do it over an o, so that motorhead is finally spelled correctly? Gotta love that lemmy...
1/09/2008 01:06:00 AM
Lemmy is the man. One of the best albums: Rock and Roll
I would think JP would start at #376 going after the stripped po's and the faking medical abusers.looks like the police board will be busy soon.
Billy H #167 watch out,JP is coming for you.
Jody,
Fire yourself.
You got caught shooting yourself in the foot with your big mouth.
Jeeeez what a beanie butt!
Glad to be retired said...
I remember back in 1972 when Raliegh Mathis was made the Cmdr. of the 3rd Dist. He assembled all the troops at the Museum of S & I . The first thing he said was , as long as I'm the Cmdr of this Dist . I promise that not $1 will pass over , under or around my desk. Then he said , and if I catch anyone of you taking so much as a candy bar , I will do my best to send you to the joint . That was the first time he had ever met any of us. Needless to say as of that day nobody did anything and most tried to leave.........................Are you kidding me???That speech was laughed about for years.Nobody slowed down at all.Traffic,hookers,dope was all being played for a lot of PO's profit well after Raleigh was gone.Shit,a lot of white shirts in the old "turd"district were the shadiest assholes you'd ever meet.
To 1/09/2008 01:06:00 AM:
Motörhead rules!
To 1/08/2008 05:51:00 PM:
No, No, NO! There are steps to be taken here!
1: "Pass" a promotional exam
2: Get assigned for one period to a ghetto district
3: Reluctantly accept the previously arranged management transfer to the same "safe" A3 district AND watch you were on prior to your promotion
4: Join the work five, get one free brigade!!
Clout and "Team Play" rules!
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Hopefully Weiss starts to learn some Lieutenant's scams like when there is a 90 (field Lieutenant) and say another Lieutenant is working that means in english that 90 gets the day off. Or how about when some Sergeants are held on the paper on day 6 but for some reason you never see them. This overhaul should be very interesting. But in the end it will be what King Richard want's and most certainly he will be controlling his puppet and taking care of all his people. This is just more nonsense for the public to eat up but normal smoke and mirror games!
1/08/2008 11:20:00 AM
Good idea! But let's don't stop there. Have Jody hit you crybaby prima donna tact and gang guys that want to cut out early on your "Friday" without dropping a slip. Not to mention you dog asses who like to take those late lunches. Where is your time due slips for those dates ? When Sgts and Lts do it its a scam when po's do it it's a perk.
Don't worry when Jody hits the white shirts, we'll have plenty of blueshirted company on our way down that slippery slope.
Asshats.
1/08/2008 11:30:00 PM
hello jagoff that is why i call you for every job to show me what to do you want the money jagoff then you work like the good boy mommy wants you to be!
yeah, get the sgt's out of the f'n station and out on the street, instead of hanging around the station and bullshitting with everyone. you know who you are. and we know who you are, the gossip queens.
My seargent became very irate yesterday when I began to suckle his breast and burped up on his shirt...sorry mommy.
Anonymous said...
Does this make sense to anyone?
Chief of patrol (or whatever he's called now) has the Area Deputy Chief's under him. Ratio of boss to immediate subordinates: 1 to 5
Area Dep Chiefs have Commanders under them. Ratio of boss to immediate subordinates: 1 to 5.
District Commanders have 3 watch Commanders under them. Ratio of boss to immediate subordinates: 1 to 3.
WC has One or two Lt.s under him. Ratio of boss to immediate subordinates: 1 to 2 (or 1 to one)
Lts have Sgts under them. Ratio of boss to immediate subordinate: 1 to (at most) 5, more likely 1 to 3, on a given day.
I think you are looking at this upside down. Starting with the Deputy Sup in Bureau of Patrol. He is responsible for ALL subordinates below him. It follows straight down the line until you get to the lowest rung. (ie. Field Lt is in charge of however many sgts are working AND all patrolman)
The new Sup has asked for the list of everyone promoted by "merit" and wants to know who sponsored them. He also wants a side note if they were promoted by merit more than once.
Well thats your problem. I havent been to court that many times in 9 or 10 years. I am a DOG and dam proud of it. I go to work, drink coffee, take a nap, get my 2 personals, dog a few event numbers, take my lunch, and after all that I go home to my family. I laugh at the "real police" listening to them chase a guy for dope. Im here for the paycheck, nothing more. This is a job and like all jobs it sucks! Save the "than quit" line for someone that cares cause I can give 2 sh*ts what some PO thinks about me. Im your worse nightmare a cop that doesnt care and one that isnt doing a dam thing for this city. Woof Woof Woof
1/08/2008 04:25:00 PM
Here's hopin' one of your family members is getting gang raped by three escaped cons and a police officer of your stature drives by.
Let me guess. You're white, between 25-35 years old, 5-12 years on the job and you live in your parents basement.
See ya at Kork & Kerrys ya fuckin' loser.
Why should Jody work in the ghetto? All of those jobs are bullshit anyway, and you can get that anywhere. Just because you enjoy the scenery there does not make you "tough as nails" I've been there done that, ghetto does not make you tough or better. Get over yourselves
Here is an idea(s) (tho it my never work cuz it just might make sense):
1. Revamp the FOP board (include real FOP lawyers) to get someone that will fight for the rank-and-file.
2. Use that FOP to fight the city tooth-and-nail for AS MANY THINGS that PO's need/want to make them feel relevant again (i.e. equip, vehicles that work, residency, etc.) and get a contract settled before or within weeks of expiration.
3. Get fair exams w/ instant scores while eliminating the BS arbitrary 30-33% so-called "mericloutorious" promos to get legit Supes and either demote, move or grant early retirement/buy-out for any Sup deemed incompetent for their position.
4. Weed killer on the undercover family/clout trees - any person promoting a person w/o proper merits to that position will be deemed responsible and be dealt with vigorously.
5. Hire more PO's with "real" staying power while making this job attractive again (i.e. $50,000 start or whatever).
Such ideas (and some not listed)may get current PO's to work more, which means PO's would take a genuine interest in their work and not just the paycheck knowing that the playing field is more level.
If an officer is doing an outstanding job...that officer should be rewarded when due and not thrown under the bus when seen politically expedient.
Just some thoughts, but I'd like to know what you guys/gals think or would add?
I disagree. 006 has some great coppers. Some of these guys will bend over backward to help you. As a TRU officer working this month in 006, I have to say they have got our backs. Everytime I am on a stop along Cottage...some 006 copper has my back. I am not just talking about the black officers. There are some white po's who help too.
I've talked to other TRU officers who also have nothing but good things to say about the po's in 006. Thanks fellas and lasses. Keep doing what you're doing!
QUESTION:
HOW MANY SPOTS DOES WEES (THATS HOW ITS PRONOUNCED) GET TO PUT HIS FRIENDS IN?
WORD IS HE WANTS A FED TO HEAD IAD!
NOW LET ME SEE IF IM CRAZY BUT IF I WAS HIM I WOULD PUT ALL MY OLD BUDDIES IN PRIMO SPOTS. WHY SHOULD HE TRUST ANYONE IN THE DEPARTMENT.
CAN HE JUST PUT IN COMMANDERS THAT WERE NEVER THE POLICE. CHIEFS OF PATROLS THAT ARE RETIRED FBI AGENTS.
WHO GAVE HIM THAT POWER?
LET ME GUESS THERE ARE NO PATROL OFFICER WITH DEGREES ON THIS DEPARTMENT THAT CAN RUN IAD OR BE A DEPUTY?
SHOULDNT CHICAGO OFFICERS BE OFFERED THESE SPOTS 1ST. I THOUGHT THE CITY HAD TO POST JOB VACANCY TO ALL EMPLOYEES AND HAVE INTERVIEWS.
DOES THAT MEAN SHAKMAN DOESNT APPLY?
BEWARE ALL YOU GOLD STARS WHO LIKE TO SIT ON YOUR ASS,YOUR NEW BOSS IS GOING TO MAKE YOU WORK!
I EXPECT WEES TO GRAB ABOUT 5-7 SPOTS FOR HIS OLD FED BUDDIES. HIS REASON BEING THEY ARE ALL QUALIFIED .
REMEMBER ALL HIS FED BUDZ WILL BE
DOIN A DANA STARKS BY GETTING A PENSION FROM ARE U.S. TAXES AND DOUBLE DIPPING IN THE CHICAGO JACKPOT.
i wonder what the lt. assoc going to say.....what a waist of a bunch of white shirts.
"All Feds are ASSHOLES. Remember Agent Hansen who sold secrets to the Russians for some cash...some American spies got killed because of it. Hansen got a life sentence in the Federal Pen for treason but, Hansen should have been executed."
Bad example he was one of us before he turned G man
WRONG: He was a member of c5 since he left the academy. He was never one of us!!!
So YOU would have to be a FOOL to work for any of the hardcharging NUMBER getting LTS. SGTS. who are GOOFS and believe their CAREERS will be made from what they EXPECT of their men and the NUMBERS!
Yea ok BOSS keep running around like a fool, FOOLING yourself and your men that the more NUMBERS WE get the more HOMICIDES we PREVENT!
NO SEARCH WARRANTS & NO GOING TO THE HOUSE FOR CONSENT SEARCHES = NO GUNS
The PROACTIVE POLICE have come to RELAIZE how important RETIRING is and not being TOP COP!
Do not lie for THEM! Never did and never will!
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You want to know what is Lying?
This is Lying!!!!!
Lying is what is done to US!!!!!!
Lying is what is REPORTED at the DOC meetings!
Lying is what is CALCULATED for the YEAR END TALLIES of Homicides violent crime etc.
Lying to CLASSIFY a crime or situation!
Lying is telling US that there needs to be WORK DONE to PREVENT anything!
The City lies to the MEDIA and CITIZENS that the PODS WORK and they don't PREVENT anything!
Be CAREFUL GUYS......They want to HANG Pods and PEOPLE!!!!!!!
The biggest lie of all is when you look in the mirror and call yourself a man.
Jody should check and see how many tact/gang teams actually work 8 hrs.
1/08/2008 09:14:00 PM
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What are you doing? Where is he going? What did you arrest him for? What is everyone else doing?
Me, I don't do anything except sniff around the station house looking into everyone else's business like the rat I am.
The new department won't even need supervisors with rats like this one in every station.
Hey alderpeople,
How black does the new 1st Dept. need to be? Wesley Snipes black, or Halle Berry black. Should exempts be increasingly darker moving up the chain of command?
1/09/2008 01:55:00 AM
The reason FBI agent Hansen didn't get the death penalty is because he agreed to tell the Govt. how much information he gave out for diamonds, cash etc.
WAIT TILL HEAPPOINTS NAPERVILLE POLICE CHIEF DAVE DIAL TO THE FIRST DEPUTY POSITION . DIAL HAS ZERO TOLERAQNCE FOR ANY MINOR INFRACTION, YOU FAT ASS LARDS WHO WORK THE DESK, HAD BETTER STOP EATING AND JOIN A FITNESS CENTER, 'DOES YOUR APPEARANCE COMMAND RESPECT?'
Fuck 006! Anybody fucked up in the head to work there deserves the shit the community gives them!
Talk about a COMPLETE shithole. Jody should stay the fuck away from 003,004,005 or 006! Someone on Midnights is going to end up getting hurt simply because there is no backup! I hear 3rd Watch isn't too great on backup either. 008 has it's share of problems, but MY district at least backs each other up out there!
-008 po
At least Weiss is wearing the American Flag onhis laper. Unlike hussein obama.
"Zero Tolerance for Infractions"
SCC,
Hasn't this always been the case for the unclouted minions on the CPD?
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