LED Beat Tags
Stupid idea.
On one hand, a ten-cent piece of plastic with reflective stickers on it set in an aluminum holder and secured by a piece of bent metal.
On the other hand, some battery powered electrical device with a programmable chip on board to change numbers. Are they still held in the same aluminum bracket by a bent piece of metal? How long until they go missing? Which aldercreature's nephew created these things? Are they going to start handing out suspension time for missing tags?
All for what purpose?
On one hand, a ten-cent piece of plastic with reflective stickers on it set in an aluminum holder and secured by a piece of bent metal.
On the other hand, some battery powered electrical device with a programmable chip on board to change numbers. Are they still held in the same aluminum bracket by a bent piece of metal? How long until they go missing? Which aldercreature's nephew created these things? Are they going to start handing out suspension time for missing tags?
All for what purpose?
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
102 Comments:
well let me see the people breaking into homes at gunpoint, and fucking people up off-duty--none of this from a patrol beat car, but hey, fix the problem by going after the wrong unit.
While attending college in New Jersey, the Woodbridge Police Department and the Woodbridge Town Council were having a little war. Two town councilman were arrested for DUI within weeks of each other, and in response the council passed an ordinance that all town police vehicle must have 2 glowing blue lights on the b-posts of the vehicle at all times of operation. It gave motorists a huge warning from a distance, and was an insult to the police. Those of you who say the LED beat tag makes no difference because the car is marked anyway haven't spent enough time on the street, or driving in general. It makes a huge difference, and is a dumb idea.
Heard rumors that the reason for the illuminated beat tag was so that the helicopter could see which car they were following. Just like Madzienowski (spelling?) was thinking when the helicopter used to follow him.
how about an orange piece of cardboard with black numbering using a permanent marker we will call it
MISC X PT 2
Per Sneed's column: J-Fed shot a 96 out of 100 on his weapons qualification. Not bad, but still room for improvement
SCC,
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Yes, they are testing new LED beat tags....
Here's da' scoop.
024 now 018 is testing the new LED beat tags.
They are programmable by a small hand held remote device, similiar to a tv remote. The [alleged] upside is that 'any' car can be put in service as a specific beat car by a SUPERVISOR by merely assigning a beat tag [LED] to a car so equipped. They are highly visible at night, but the one I saw in 018 [1813] during the day was hardly ledgible in bright sun during the day. They are also working on adding an LED display to the roof for the CPD chopper so they can identify and direct specific cars during an incident from the air as they will be more readily identified.
This, was supposed to be in the planning stages over the last three years and only now came out as a result of Federal and another Mars light company competing for city contracts to get big city roof light contracts. According to the driver of beat 1813, his/her test car also has stobe lights in the front and rear in addition to the new test LED Mars/Beat tag on the roof.
Just some......."Info fo' da; Po-lice"
020 wants to know..did JG flip on Vandermay from 18??? JG is in 020 now,..,should we be aware?????
I WORK AT HQ AND RUMOR HAS IT THAT THE
FEMALE SGT WHO RUNS THE FLEET CAME UP WITH THE IDEA.
I BELIEVE SHE'S DOING THIS TO SHOW SUPT J. W. THAT SHE IS WORTHY OF THE 9 TO 5 MON-FRI INSIDE JOB.
STUPID IDEA!!!
I work in 024 on 3rd watch. Occasionally I worked 2413, which had the new beat tag for awhile. It's part of the light bar. You can't take it off. Also, you cant change the numbers. It needs to be done by a tech or something. Lastly, it's BRIGHT! You can see it from blocks away. A real safety concern in my book.
Anonymous said...
If you hate Richie Scott take it up with him these jokes are real old and cowardace as well. I can care less about the man, but its old already get a fucking life! Did he steal your girlfriend and piss on your shoes in the bar? Relax cowardly puke.
SCC I agree stop the "scotchbreathe" jokes athey are using up alot of space.
2/02/2008 07:26:00 PM
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LOL - Quit posting like it isn't you Richie! We know it is you begging for this to stop. At least be man enough to admit it is you! At least the TRU Sgt was willing to meet his accusers in the parking lot! We would meet you at TR's but we know you would never buy a drink!
xoxoxooxoxoox Anita!
Who was the southside detective that hit and killed a deer last night? Whats the odds of hittig a deer with a city squad? Anybody know? Hope J-Fed isn't a member of P.E.T.A.!
I think we should be like the old Good Humor Ice Cream Trucks, music blended with the sweet sounds of your beat number, for the seeing impaired!
Lt. Richie Scotchbreath's beat tag should have a LED display of his Blood Alcohol Level! To warn other motorists!
Maybe a large giant LED Theater Marquee on top of our squad cars! With our names, badge and beat number! I always wanted my name in lights! I will be famous!
I think a bumper sticker that says: For more info about this officer go to -
www.secondcitycop.blogspot.com
Find out what this officer's co-workers really think about him/her!
Lets see.... I say it will be about two days in service before the first IOD and medical for electrical shock.
Glad my beat tag will light up longer than my 15 minute dept authorized flashlight.
2 muny people watching police shows on tv.
Can the tags be hacked or programmed to say...
Playa?... or how about Ghetto patrol?.... or maybe TAXI, or no fares?... Or Go J Fed!?.... Or Kiss My A**?.....
Or maybe a picture of our favorite lady sarge?......
Be aware
020 wants to know..did JG flip on Vandermay from 18??? JG is in 020 now,..,should we be aware?????
You should be aware of 95% of the goofs in 020, bosses included.
Waste of money!
Get us cars and computers that work!
The reason for the lighted beat tags is to alert the drug dealers and gang bangers, that we are coming down the street so that they can get rid of their dope and guns before we get there!
The City does NOT want us arresting people because it costs taxpayers more money then putting lighted beat tags on cars!
If your Dept. issue flashlight only holds a charge for 15 minutes....go buy a NEW BATTERY for it, you cheap ass!
To 2/02/2008 11:51:00 PM
Was he using a marked unit?
I wonder if people will be trying to get in the back door, thinking it's a cab.
Just another thing to wear the car battery down :)
shoot at me from the darkness of night!!!!!
Im sure the patrons of SPIN & BERLIN will just love those new
psycho-delic tags as they're waiting in line, jacked up on X.
Its a shame that our "openly hyper" alderman didnt take credit for this one.......
This sounds like a brilliant idea. Now the bangers have something to aim at. Perhaps the same person responsible for this idea could come up with little flashing pins that the PO's could wear on their chest and back so that we would know exactly where each officer/target is. So much BS by someone who obviously spent all their time under someones desk giving head. I really like the rumor of having each officer's DNA on file, if true, how many times does one predict it will be used to identify deceased officers -versus how many times it will be used in officer related criminal/disciplinary cases.
This is the silliest rumor I have ever heard!
To 020 yes JG did, he is a rat! This fucking City/County tried to ruin Bryan's life FOR RESPONDING TO A 10-1 and JG put final nail in the coffin. JG deserves everything he gets and more. DO NOT TRUST HIM, OSTRACIZE HIM. Bryan lost three years and his house because of this Jagoff. ROT IN HELL YOU RAT!!
Ive seen those LED beat tags..They look STUPID!! Sure lets spend money on that-dont give me a working PDT,radio, or squad car!! Hmmm I wonder how long they will work?? Why does this dept spend money on shit we DONT need?? Beat the troops!! yes lets have stand up inspection every day! salt rings on my pants?? give me a #$$% break I got out of the car!! MORE MORALE KILLING!!! THIS JOB BLOWS!!!
plastic beat tags $3.50
LED beat tags $500.00
Getting Fleet people to do things right!! PRICELESS!
2/02/2008 11:59:00 PM said:
J-Fed shot a 96 out of 100 on his weapons qualification. Not bad, but still room for improvement
I came out of the Academy in '88 shooting 100 percent but was well taught by my FTO. He told me, "Don't ever shoot 100 percent again because if you ever hit a bystander accidentaly and they see you are an expert shot, it will not look good for you when you're sued and try to say it was an errant shot."
Thanks to "Benny the Rat" from
015, for that, and all of his lessons, and for those that don't know him "the rat" name was for good reasons.
This is a stupid way to spend money.
LED display to the roof for the CPD chopper so they can identify and direct specific cars during an incident from the air as they will be more readily identified.
..."heli-chopter"?? huh? what is that?
Lastly, it's BRIGHT! You can see it from blocks away. A real safety concern in my book.
2/03/2008 02:05:00 AM
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Well, you know the answer to that one. Stop going where you don't feel safe.
I know I might get yelled down, but your safety is FIRST. There is a G.O. that states this. (number please? I think we might need to be reciting it frequently in the comming future.)
Light up beat tags are the wrong direction. I want the dept to get rid of the brake lights on the mars bars!!
I think the money spent on this unnecessary item could be put to better use. Totally agree with other poster, Who will get the contract? to line their pockets.
Pookie says:
"I sez, glow in da dark doo rags!!
Wit a boom box blastin' da 'Bad Boys' cut frum dat 'Cops' sho!!!
Cuz, wees needs awl da headz ups we kin git!!!"
BAD BOYZ, BAD BOYZ
WATCHA GONNA DOOOOO
WATCHA GONNA DOOOO, WEN DEY CUMS FA YU......
Yeah, as someone already mentioned I saw 1813 with the new beat tag. I could hardly tell what beat it was and i was looking as hard as I could (it was at night). I do not think these beat tags are a good idea at all. WE'RE STILL DOING REPORTS ON PAPER! COME THE FUCK ON! Who the fuck needs LED beat tags?
Another fuckin' brainstorm from R&D--LED beat tags.
You're responding to a felony-in-progress, Code 1 (no lights; no siren). An offender can spot your "neon sign" approach from a half mile away.
Another bonehead scheme by the empty-holstered desk jockeys.
Actually, I think having a LED beat tag is great...here's why...I now will know for certain who the dog ass cowards are as they speed off AWAY from the "10-1 or the "in-progress calls".
We need cars not expensive not needed beat tags! Whose family got the contracts? what alderman has the inside track? Waste money where it is not needed another item to break and not be repaired! Guess the ciyizens cannot see the big blue 4 digit number on all the cars1 WTF! Waste more daley and crew!
Anonymous said...
Heard rumors that the reason for the illuminated beat tag was so that the helicopter could see which car they were following. Just like Madzienowski (spelling?) was thinking when the helicopter used to follow him.
2/02/2008 11:51:00 PM
The helipcopter? That works some days but is off for 2! Another waste of money and resources!
As my battery was chirping, my car with 100 thousand miles was rattling, and my barren pdt mount stared up at me, I looked at the glowing 1813 and was really, really jealous...I wish I was equipped with such essential police equipment!
It's really important for our chopper to be able to identify cars on the ground. Yeah, right! I still have never even seen this imaginary piece of shit in the air. It exsits to provide do nothing jobs for those assigned to it. Another moronic idea!
I can't get a computer for my car with 100k miles or a radio that can hold a charge over two hours.
Thank god I can at least get some state of the art beat tag!!
Priorities?
Anonymous said...
Heard rumors that the reason for the illuminated beat tag was so that the helicopter could see which car they were following.
2/02/2008 11:51:00 PM
Aside from the streaming video telling us how the almighty helicopter is going to help us, we never see the damn thing! Never available/working when needed and most Sgts have been quietly advised not to request it by the WCs. Too much paper work justifing the request after the fact. This is supposedly even if it was not available to respond. Don't count on seeing the eag-beater, its too booked up taking Alder Chumps on rides to justify their funding. Anybody ever had help from these helo people, I'd like a reality based story.
PS- Cite the event/RD/CB number or STFU
This is so the lazy clout sgts. could log you easier, they can read the beat tag half a block away now and then go into the station and suck the watch commander's ass.
Fu*king ridiculous! Just get rid of the beat tag all together! Whats wrong with just the car numbers that are plastered on the sides and rear of the car already? The city wants to save money by cutting corners, well theres an idea!
WHO CARES? Its a Beat Tag.
another waste of time and money in Crook-ago.
Until someone learns to reprogram them, a nice application of mud and they will be much less visible. Inspector proof too...tough to prove that some passing truck didn't splash some shit onto your light bar.
Who was the southside detective that hit and killed a deer last night? Whats the odds of hittig a deer with a city squad? Anybody know? Hope J-Fed isn't a member of P.E.T.A.!
I bet if he had the L.E.D lights this wouldn't have happened. Bambi says "I know what you did last night, you won't get away with this".
http://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Cop-Chicago-Jerry-Ardolino/dp/1425741320
What kind of shit is this !!
hey 03:50AM,THAT WAS FUCKING FUNNY,SCC DONT EVER BLOCK THE RICHIE SCOTCHBREATH JOKES EVERY TIME I READ ONE I PISS MY PANTS,I GUESS I KNOW HOW HE FEELS NOW.
Squadcars are out - UFOs are in
I WONDER IF THESE ARE THE SAME LED DEVICES USED ON PROGRAMMABLE LISCENCE PLATE FRAMES - YOU CAN BUY THEM AT PEPBOYS FOR $30. CITY PROBABLY PAID $300 A PIECE.
Once again looking to blame everyone but ourselves. I bet the reason is because the dpartment is tired of making new beat for vehicles. Coppers are too lazy to take care of them, they are always getting lost or broken.
Aw my beat tag is missing let me take a rapids tag and tape a contact card to it, use a little marker on it and bam problem solved. Now the rapid is going crazy looking for its beat tag, Thus, they take someone elses tag and the problem has gotten worse.
Well noe with these new mars light the problem is addressed. You guys are our own worst enemy.
VOTE FOR TOM ALLEN, STATE'S ATTORNEY
TELL YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS ALSO!
Im glad I don't live across the street from a district. It could be like that chicken shack episode from Seinfeld!
I think city should light up a squad car like some of those Semi trucks on the expressway!
"The reason politicians try so hard to get re-elected is that they would hate to have to make a living under the laws they've passed."
I work in 024 on 3rd watch. Occasionally I worked 2413, which had the new beat tag for awhile. It's part of the light bar. You can't take it off. Also, you cant change the numbers. It needs to be done by a tech or something. Lastly, it's BRIGHT! You can see it from blocks away. A real safety concern in my book.
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It takes away a slight tactical edge, a sniper, a brick thrower, drug dealers can spot you for more time to kill an officer. Thanks higher ups to make it easier to kill us.
lets see...mars lights,pdt,cameras,automated ticket writing w/printer, the is it there or not gps and the soon if true led beat tag. we will need to sign out a spare car battery with our radios at the beginning of each day.
For a city with only 1 helicopter, that works only part time, and usually not at night, and some of that time is for the burbs, to worry about numbers on the light bars (beat tags, whatever) of cars that are falling apart is insane!
The black plastic (bakelite) with the reflective numbers is good enough for now and the future decade's.
We need equipment that works (R&D)! We need computers that work 24/7, radios that have 8 to 10 hr. battery life, or in/car chargers to keep them charged while we ride around.
Those new LED lightbars SUCK in the daytime, you can hardly see them. Yeah, at night they look good, but bright sunshine kills their effect.
Whoever tests these things out don't know Jack about the real world we have to patrol in!
Screw the car cameras, which will blow millions of bucks. And i'm sure you can't get one of these new (bright light beat) tags for under a buck (yeah right). Put the money where we can actually use it. New cars, radios, computers that really work all the time.
Over 4 years ago the Ill. State Police bought Panasonic Toughbook computers, (not cheap, but they are lightyears ahead of anything we have) they take a beating and are worth every penny they spent.
The crap we buy breaks right after it's delivered, they the company goes out of business. (thank you friends of the mayor).
Our purchasing dept. is so corrupt that if they don't get a freebee (Jacket, hat, trial version, test unit, free sample), they don't buy it. Some one always makes 2 times more than what it's worth.
With the size of this city, why don't we buy from the manufacturer's, and get their extended warrenties included?
Auto's. radios, cameras, vest's, batteries, whatever we need?
Our bid procedures are terrible, and we usually pay twice what it's worth and get screwed in the ass after we buy it.
Anyone in the papers reading this (Trib, Times)?
Our politicians are wasting our money faster than they can collect it!
I hope our new supt. has some direction in purchasing?
sighed;
working guy
Off topic
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It appears that Paul Capparelli Vice president of St. Symphorosa has endorsed his brother Jim Capparelli. Paul has promised all voters twinkies on election day. Supplies are limited. Paul can only get as many as his father has in the back of the Caddy and god knows how Paul likes them twinkies. John Capparelli has offered to answer any questions you may have, please no FOP business.He does not like to discuss that.You can try to email him however theres no chance he will ever respond.
Does anyone see a pattern here? Tim
Capparelli where are you?
with these led beat tags. how are the 009th district stealth guys gonna sneak up on unsuspecting drug dealers with their headlights off now??
ATTENTION 020...YES JG did flip, what a rat. I'm in 013 with BV and its true his old partner JG ratted him out... For what its worth be cautious around JG he did it once he'll do it again guarenteed.
Saw them in 18. They look like taxicabs! Take a look around the dept, different squads, different lightbars, It'll be a long time before they make it around the dept. If a light(s) goes out and u can't read the beat # do we get gigged? I'm sure big bird will find know!
OSAMA OBAMA & OPRAH
As far as his endorsement
I agree! Truth be told she jumped on his wagon only because he's black. as she as never endorsed a candidate in the past. (It is what it is) Also she is on the stage in California acting like a preacher, whats that all about. go to the polls vote for Hillary then do what you must in the general election.
What do you mean tape,paper and a marker is not good anymor
TO working guy
2/03/2008 02:30:00 PM
The reason we can't do any of this, is becuase no manufacturer will deal directly with the city. They don't pay their bills ,there have been several suppliers that have gone bankrupt waiting for the city to pay their bills.
As for the LED being read by night vision equipment(helo cameras at night) guess again current technology of night vision doesn't allow for red lights to be used. The red light blooms out the equipment (infrared....red duhh)so once again our corrupt purchasing dept has aquired something that is totally useless for it's intended purpose, if indeed that is supposed to be it's purpose. I guess that is what comes from having personnel that are ignorant of both tactics and equipment assigned to R&D.
Lt. Farrell has LED hair! You can see him coming from a mile away! He looks like a walking Lite-Brite kid's toy!
The helipcopter? That works some days but is off for 2! Another waste of money and resources!
2/03/2008 11:23:00 AM
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You are a moron...
You get two days off every week don't you?
I don't think the LED lights will let the copter see the cars either, that is not the reason.
Outside numbers on top of the vehicle would help the helo..
Whoever came up with this LED beat sign should be committed to an asylum.
How about strobe bullseyes, you damn fool. Flashing stars on our left chest. Maybe a loop audiotape set at 140 decibels announcing "Here come da PO-lice!"
Who promotes these imbeciles?
So, new squad once it gets 35k miles on it: power steering out, breaks out, shocks gone, trans dying, headlights to dim for anyone too see, pdt missing, but i'll have an awesome beat tag to go along with my awesome camera!
with these led beat tags. how are the 009th district stealth guys gonna sneak up on unsuspecting drug dealers with their headlights off now??
Just because you are a lazy dog ass, don't knock on the copper trying to do some work. I bet you are the best cop on the watch, just ask yourself. douchebag.
"Thanks to "Benny the Rat" from
015, for that, and all of his lessons, and for those that don't know him "the rat" name was for good reasons."
Benny Good Guy a lil goofy but had his heart in the right place. They crapped on him up to the very end. He always kept the Cicero "Street Crews" on a short leash.Classic
2:30pm
What are you talking about? I have had a Panasonic Toughbook for over a year.
CPD R&D is the biggest farce inthe dept.
To 020 yes JG did, he is a rat! This fucking City/County tried to ruin Bryan's life FOR RESPONDING TO A 10-1 and JG put final nail in the coffin. JG deserves everything he gets and more. DO NOT TRUST HIM, OSTRACIZE HIM. Bryan lost three years and his house because of this Jagoff. ROT IN HELL YOU RAT!!
2/03/2008 10:11:00 AM
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Bryan was in 4 different districts in his 5 years on the job when he hit 018. Theres usually a reason for that. He was a goof, responded to a 10-1 as a wagon and according to reports, was putting the boots to a handcuffed jagoff (that deserved it) when he was just supposed to be there for the transport and had nothing to do with the situation. The incident happened in the projects and he never spend any time in the projects doing police work.
Simply put: he stepped on his dick.
Joe was his partner and if you recall, wound up getting canned too while the Lt on scene wound up getting promoted (now the commander of 018) and another tact PO got a meritorious Sgt promotion shortly thereafter.
Now who do you think was the rat?
WTF said...
http://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Cop-Chicago-Jerry-Ardolino/dp/1425741320
What kind of shit is this !!
2/03/2008 01:31:00 PM
That guy looks very homo-erotic. He probably bashed his head (all right giggedee giggedee) into someone's ass at the bath house and thats were it get's gory. His tour was only 5yrs?
That stupid egg-beater in the sky is just another tax payer funded toy for "Harry the sell-out" to play with.
Hey Hohmy, I heard you won't let chubbyCostello play with your bird.
this is not a new idea, in the 40's they tried out a neon sign on the top of the cars. Also the English had a iluminated sign. Both ideas went by the wayside as dumb and outdated, It was great for the tourist trade, but real bad if you are trying to do police work.
I truly hope thet K Fed is smarter than this. If he can be hoodwinked by this idea, then the bad guys have won rounf one.
what fucking moron came up with this idea???!!!
I hope our new supt. has some direction in purchasing?
sighed;
working guy
we've had the toughbooks for a couple years now, they aren't new. they are nice though...
Another fuckin' brainstorm from R&D--LED beat tags.
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R & D has nothing to do with them joe. It is coming from fleet mgmnt.
JG was and is the rat! All the scumbag had to do was say I can't tell who the copper is and it would have gone away but he rolled on his partner. The worst Bryan did was give a shithead a biff that was well deserved, which at best should have gotton him a day or three.
ROT IN HELL JG YOU RAT
To 2/03/2008 10:52:00 PM:
Yep, and the beauty of that mess is the whiteshirts onscene who personally directed the police response seem to be doing quite well as a result, go figure...a lesson to be learned for all!
I SAW SEISER IN 018 YESTERSAY, HIS LED DISPLAYED READ " SEISER RUNS IT".
To 020-
JG is solid and I'd work a tour with him anyday. The earlier post had KV down pretty well. I'd burn 8 before I got in the car with him. Sorry he got back on the job. He caused alot of problems for some good coppers.
Anonymous said...
OSAMA OBAMA & OPRAH
You rant about Dr. Phil and some author,what do they have to do with Obama? You must be secretly in love with Oprah.
BUT IF THEY (BV AND JG) BOTH GOT SUSPENDED--- WHY DID ONLY BV HAVE A TRIAL??
The streaming video on the helicopters said that they are not "all weather" but gave no explanation of what "bad weather" is.
Fabulous.
good idea, most thugs can already tell a squad car just by the headlights but now the few that didnt see us coming up on them definitely will now. who the fuck thinks of this shit? obviously no one that has ever worked the street
The streaming video on the helicopters said that they are not "all weather" but gave no explanation of what "bad weather" is.
Fabulous.
2/04/2008 04:36:00
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GEEZ, I think heavy snow, heavy rain/thunderstorms, low visibility, high winds - that kind of thing HUH??
BUT IF THEY (BV AND JG) BOTH GOT SUSPENDED--- WHY DID ONLY BV HAVE A TRIAL??
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Because one was on tape kicking a cuffed offender and the other was standing 25 feet away due to the malay that ensued. And JG got suspended, I believe, for inattention to duty, possibly because when he was questioned as to who the officer was on tape, he said he couldnt make out on the video who anyone was.
inattention is procedural, false reports is procedural, battery is criminal, thus the trial. Someone pointed some fingers... thats for sure, but who? I doubt JG would've gotten 30 pending if he was the one naming names.
Anonymous said...
JG was and is the rat! All the scumbag had to do was say I can't tell who the copper is and it would have gone away but he rolled on his partner.
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If Joe rolled he wouldve gotten promoted like some others did, not shitcanned like his partner. If Bryan wouldve came up with a justifyable use of force (ie: the handcuffed offender was kicking at me so I was forced to take him back to the ground.. he continued.. and I used my baton to combat the kicks as I was taught in the academy in the use of force PSS {police safety system} model) instead of the knee jerk, "what?! thats not me?! I didnt do it!" He probably wouldve gotten a day if even that. But, Bryan wasnt that bright.
In this day and age, coppers that point fingers get promoted while the stand up guys go down with their partners, that is, unless their partner actually takes responsibility, which never happened.
And from what I saw of the tape, it looked like it was justified anyway. In that malay and with that jagoff nightfall (thats now off the streets) there's no doubt in my mind, cuffed or not, he was still fighting, spitting, kicking, and probably told his 'auntie' to get the camcorder out during the 30 minutes him and his boys locked themselves in the van.
JG aint the bad guy in this one.
It was JG that pointed the finger at Bryan. Whatever Bryan did that night he did not deserve to be indicted and lose three years pay, so all you monday morning QBs GFY. I frankly don't care what Bryan did that night, it was a 10-1 in the jungle, all I do care about is that he was ratted out by another cop. A big part of the problem was the refusal of the white shirts to do a TRR at Bryan's insistance!
A big part of the problem was the refusal of the white shirts to do a TRR at Bryan's insistance!
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The officer does the TRR. Just do one in the computer and ask a supervisor to review it after you submit it. They can't delete it and if they refuse to complete it at least you have it in there to prove you did one.
Anonymous said...
A big part of the problem was the refusal of the white shirts to do a TRR at Bryan's insistance!
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TRRs were done on all offenders. I think the officer that did the TRRs was the same PO that was meritoriously promoted shortly thereafter. hmmmmm....
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