Raised Morale?
We've noticed a disturbing trend in the comments:
- Interest in the 12 hour day is high
- Interest in any alternative that gets rid of the sixth day is higher
- Numerous people are claiming that this is the best thing to happen to the Department in years and J-Fed truly has the pulse of the regular beat cops
What exactly has the new guy accomplished?
- He's attended one graduation where he pretty much parroted the company line.
- He's made one proposal that will take YEARS to implement
- He may have (emphasis on "may have") cut his office staff from 14 down to 9
No one has been demoted. No heads of Bureaus have been moved. No promotions or hirings have taken place. Yet there is an undercurrent of irrational exuberance all of the sudden in our comments sections and our visits are topping 6,000 per day for three days straight.
We're as eager as anyone to see what change J-Fed can implement. We certainly hope it's for the better. But we need to give this at least 6 months to get a feel for what's going on. Change in this Department takes time. Often, it takes way too much time. Molasses in January moves faster than this Department embracing change. Glaciers often outdistance the pace of change here. Look at what they did to the weapon order last year. And that was in the works for more than a few years that we know of.
Let's wait and see what the actual first change is before we crown J-Fed the greatest thing since sliced bread. Proposed changes are nothing more than "same old, same old" from City management.
We're as eager as anyone to see what change J-Fed can implement. We certainly hope it's for the better. But we need to give this at least 6 months to get a feel for what's going on. Change in this Department takes time. Often, it takes way too much time. Molasses in January moves faster than this Department embracing change. Glaciers often outdistance the pace of change here. Look at what they did to the weapon order last year. And that was in the works for more than a few years that we know of.
Let's wait and see what the actual first change is before we crown J-Fed the greatest thing since sliced bread. Proposed changes are nothing more than "same old, same old" from City management.
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Heard he may be filling open spots friday 15 Feb.
JFed has carte blanche and can get this department back on track and with high morale again. He is going to get us the 12 hour work day and he is going to lead us from the front.
No more sorry ass losers and excuse driven fatass exempts blowing smoke up our asses. This Superintendent is all business and he wants results,that is why he started with his feet firmly planted on the ground. He is listening to his troops and he will deliver.
12 hour work days NOW!
SCC,
When has morale lifted this high on the CPD? The knowledge that we are getting the 12 hour day has lifted our weary spirits to heights unknown.
JFed hit a Grand Slam with this one.
Yet there is an undercurrent of __irrational exuberance__ all of the sudden in our comments sections and our visits are topping 6,000 per day for three days straight.
Oh! I thought you were talking about the housing market for a minute.
all deputy sups demoted look for it tomarrow
Lotta house mouses are busy typing in the hyped up comments...
Maybe the excitement about the new guy has something to do with the fact that he actually seems sincere, which is a refreshing change of pace from the usual smarminess that emanates from the upper echelon of this department. The fact that he is articulate also sets him apart. It appears that he does want to try to fix what ails this screwed-up department without rushing in so quickly that he loses sight of the whole picture. I'm willing to bet that he is smart enough to develop a cohesive game plan over time as opposed to implementing the usual knee-jerk decisions. What can be wrong with giving the troops a morale boost in the meantime? When was the last time that happened?
maybe he can raise the residency law
Funny, I was thinking the same thing....
BREAKING NEWS!!!
This just in. . . St. Valentine's Day Massacre at Headquarters as of 2130hrs.
WILLIAMS, RISLEY & GRAU told to resign immediately or be reverted back to their career service ranks. Allegedly Risley is cleaning out his office at this moment.
That is all for now.
You heard proper baby!!!!
Risley, Grau, Kirby, Tobias (sooner to be indicted rather than later) and Williams all got theyr walking papers today/tonight. I am starting to beleive this department could be legit and staffed with competent exempts for the first time in my 14 years. Go J-fed! Go J-fed! Why Sup, thats a mighty big broom your carrying!!! Sweep on sir!!
The shit just hit the fan at 35th st. Bosses looking for jobs today! You heard it here FIRST!!!
8 hour day
4 on
2 off
make up the lost time with paid 30 min lunch
stress levels would drop dramatically
12 hour days are insane
there is no way to reduce stress
when you work 12 hrs a day.
You need the extra day off just to sleep.
Can you imagine if you worked a busy district, 008 007 006 004 010 011 etc?!
As a patrol officer, beat car, while not on assignment you're suppose to be driving around your beat. Does that mean if you don't have any jobs on your beat you would be driving a veh for over 8 hours? You're going to have to start keeping a log like the truck drivers.
Hey Supt,
Demote half of the bosses out there back to Lt. or Sgt.
We have the most brass heavy/clouted department in the nation. Even more than NYPD.
Worthless hacks.
Rumore has it that tomorrow will be bloody friday at 35th. Major heads to roll according to the source. there will be plenty of surprises and a few unfortunates....
Williams, Grau, Risley, Tobias, Kirby are all out.... Skahill 1st deputy, Limon possible head of academy and former FBI guy who worked for the cta new IAD
At first, I was hopeful that positive change would be pending, now - not so sure. The Bosses have gone into overdrive trying to look like their bureaus look great and riding J-Feds' leg. Inspectors are writing up non existant violations [perceived stubble, not beard w/o a card], IAD is recommending 10 days for everything from failure to notify medical, to court deviations and advance notice to unit commanders allows that "little too candid" officer to be sent on a hospital guard detail relief prior to his arrival. Not a good time to be a worker who still tried to do positive work when allowed to do so. Then again, I'm not too sure that it ever was in my 19 years looking back.
A big sorry to all you guys and gals who told me I was foolish to try and make a differance in the city. You were right, I was wrong and the painful part is not that you were correct. The time/effort I wasted while trying to "Serve and Protect" is forever lost.
HELLO SCC,
Well looks like SNEED is on to something. She has indicated that the top echelon of the Chicago Police Department's senior staff are on their way out the door. As I predicted Supt. Weiss would have to almost completely clear out the senior staff to move the department forward. I still stand by my original statement that Charles Williams is going to land on his feet. You guys/gals can be sure that in three years the CPD will be a remarkable, cutting edge, professionalized law enforcement agency. I have also heard that the Maywood Police Department is looking at bringing on an outside consultant who recently retired from the US Department of Justice. Get ready for an exciting ride. Guys/Gals if you want your career to progress apply to IAD. I envy you guys/gals because you will be plank owners in a dramatic turnaround of a major law enforcement agency. If you are lucky enough to be one of the chosen few to enter the new IAD you will work with various federal agencies and conduct complex investigations using cutting edge techniques. Stay safe and GOD Bless the CPD
Former CPD Triple Deuce Driver/ Proud Working 1811 SSA FED
Sounds an awful lot like the Obama campaign if you ask me....
In talknig with the other coppers about j-fed's wearing the uniform, some po's absolutely are giving a strong visceral thumbs down.. but that's just their initial gut reaction. I think we have to give him the chance to identify with being a chicago copper...part of that is putting on the costume...so be it, let's not be so harsh or hasty. In a real sense it's all of our job's to be his FTO and get him to understand our world...in time he may,I hope, develope that "police persona" that we all did, (and we didn't come on the job with, if you remember) Let's stay positive and stop the hating on each other...Finally, I think the home team is about to be tested by crisis as never before and not of our doing, I have faith that we'll make people say again "thank god for the Chicago Police Dept." Stay safe my brothers and sisters.
SCC again shitting on things before anything happens...
you hate the department so much just go away!!
he has been in office for 15 days.. geeez.
I think just the fact that JFed might do to this Department what most of us wanted over the past 15 years will boost morale. Get rid of the political hacks, actually listen to us. Most of these bosses are so far detached from what a working beat copper does everyday its pathetic. JFed offers a little light at the end of the tunnel. That alone boosts my morale.
J-Fed can wear the uniform as far as I'm concerned. He IS the boss, and will look better in it then most of the coppers do now.
Fuck you working FED. Fucking leave already. Thats why people like you go to IAD and the feebs. It's all about you and what you can get, not about policing. Fucking rat. SCC, block this dillweed please. He's such a self serving punk. The last copper who became fed was robert hansen. Wonder what happened to him?
FOP trustee in charge of scheduling came to 009 for roll call last night stating he first learned of the 12 hour proposal when his voicemail and email blew up. It will take years to implement and study so lets deal with all of our issues together and get a new contract and good representation of old, new and retired in FOP. Stick together and stop bickering this is a fun job so laugh every day and go home safe with the same number of holes you left with.
Forget that 12 hr. day crap. Some of us do have school, another job or a family life.
I love sliced bread!!!!!
do you know what would really raise morale??
LIFT THE RESIDENCY RULE!
anything i hear gives me some hope because i have seen way too many guys walking around with their heads down lately. this department really needs a breath of fresh air. most guys with 15 plus years on learn to let shit roll of their backs-- rumors don't mean shit, i'll believe it when i see it in writing. right now we have to stick together and hope that something is done sooner than later.
Sup. Weis does seem sincere and it is awesome to see teh refreshing attutude on an old department, so far so good
Rumor has been confirmed and more changes still pending. Williams, Grau, Risley are all out.
had i known better, i would have thought you were talking about Barack Hussein Obama and his punchdrunk followers!
LOL
God let it be true about risley...bye bye JAGOFF!!!!
BIG CITY COPPER SAYS......
I cant believe how foolish all the coppers are acting regarding the 12 hour day... be aware of the mayor attempting to bring the olympics here..If you don't believe that every officer and I mean EVERY offcier will be working 12 hour days when the olympics get here you are a fool. Once that happens wont have to pay the overtime because we will already be on 12 hour days. ALSO, has anyone thought about teh overtime being cut down. waht about the FLSA, there will be more manpower on the street workign 12 hour days and also bear in mind that the DEPARTMENT determines the starting times for watches. You don't think taht afternoons will start @ 1500-0300 and 1600-0400. The only great shift will be the 0500-1700 hour start (yeah right) how much time will the bid be?? for all you less than 10 year guys that think this is GREAT!! I'm all for a new scedule but be AWARE of the bullshit scam they are trying to pull, i worked 10's in burbs before i got here been here 18 years. And for all you guys that work the old side job you actually think you will be able to schedule the side gig, yeah sure you will on your extra 3 days off, and in the mean time your babysitter will love to cover your new work schedule hours. THIS IS THE CITY'S ANSWER TO CUT THE OVERTIME & COURT TIME, I don't work the side jobs anymore its easier to work the o.t. on a late arrest and court @ $40.00 hour than the old 20.00 an hour part time job oh but they pay cash BIG DEAL get another arrest they're there for the taking.
I say give the new guy a chance.....With a BIG WAIT AND SEE let him prove himself and earn our respect. We have been shitted on enough my blue brother and sisters and only a fool goes out and does that hard chargin police work these days. Wait and see if J.W. truly cleans house as we hope he does because they all created the mess this Dept.is in. Let's see if he puts people who truly know what they are doing and how to work with the P.O.s they are responsible for. Then he will get 2 thumbs up from me.
I heard from a VERY reliable source that Commander Kolman is in line for the Chief of Patrol position. Finally, something we all can be proud of, a promotion based on integrity and competence! Thumbs up JFed!!
Makes all the sense in the world.
It explains why the airports' commander is unavailable for the next 5 days. what is going to happen to "shakes"?
(Sticking my head out the window and screaming like a money-grubbing whore)
"ITS MY TIME OFF AND I WANT IT NOW!!"
Dear Supt. Weis. Thanks for removing that festering unhealable wound at HEADquarters.
Now your Department and mine can heal itself and prosper.
Thank you.
...Finally, I think the home team is about to be tested by crisis as never before and not of our doing, I have faith that we'll make people say again "thank god for the Chicago Police Dept." Stay safe my brothers and sisters.
2/15/2008 06:59:00 AM
Oh, I agree that something is gonna happen here, but I disagree that we are going to do much about it. Times have changed, we are neither feared nor respected. For example, take the dem convention: Coppers being coppers, getting it done. If that happens now, with the cellaphone cameras and the revvs? Coppers fleeing home to make sure that thier families are safe. No one wants to be sued or shown on the news defending the liberal jackasses that constitute this city. This city has sewn the seeds: fear of suit, pandering to the revvs and the jobless, and enough of the oldtimers are gone that it is just about time that the city reap what it has sewn.Hell, kids on the street yell F-U police. NEVER would have happend even 10 years ago. But we all know that its an easy payday for them if we try to do something about it. Congratualtions. You have the most apathetic dept in the nation. I"m off to a caps meeting. Yea!
Hey stupid, this job will never change as long as Daley is the king. You seem to forget that Weis works for Daley and nothing is done without his consent.
He IS the greatest thing since sliced bread!!!
J FED!!!!! GREAT JOB IF TRUE!
Please also get rid of that back stabbing loser cisewski and jello puddin pop walter green.
all those being dumped have no honor or integrity and i say good riddance to bad rubbish. thats what thses pricks get for fucking
with the little guy!
We had an advance notice of a "little too candid" officer in 007. JM was immediately placed in St. Bernard's Hospital as a hospital detail officer. He never hit the street and it really pissed the guy off. He eventually left 007. Drained his moral down man!
Now looking back it was not that funny afterall?
po in 007
Exciting career in complex investigations??? Againts police. F U you stroke. I will not scarifice my soul. How about giving us some of those resources for the bad guys. Stay of this blog before you poke your eye out.
2/15
12:42am
Geez just like the FOP is not a union the superintendent never has and never will have anything to do with residency. Quit complaining everyone who takes this job knows you gotta live here. Show me one sane po pushing a beat car in a busy district that would actually want to be driving around handling jobs for 12 hours. We got some real idiots and dreamers on this job to compare some bullshit suburb to a fast ghetto district for 12 hours tells me that all of you goofs that want 12 hour days are not and never have worked a beat car in a busy district. The longer I'm on this job and see the quality of the dreamers we have hired truly makes me wish I went on the CFD instead.
12 hour days are insane
there is no way to reduce stress
when you work 12 hrs a day.
You need the extra day off just to sleep.
Can you imagine if you worked a busy district, 008 007 006 004 010 011 etc?! ........
Agreed. You would be burnt out in the 1st yr. or less, not to mention a health issue. What's so hard about implimenting 8hrs. 5 days a week. Think aobut the hrs. for 12 hr days, who wants to work the 8pm-8am shift, drive time about 1 hr. or more during morning rush,sleep 8, there is your
21 hrs. out of 1 day. Use the other three to relax, yeah right! I see alot more medical use. Obviously the city only cares about$$.
Former CPD Triple Deuce Driver/ Proud Working 1811 SSA FED
You are the biggest tool on this site. You obviously have NO life because half your day is filled with sitting on this blog and talking about how good a boss that hack Chaz Williams was.
Well here is a news flash: He is gone! Thank goodness, maybe now we won't have to hear from you on our blog again.
Here is an idea, start a blog and talk to your "fed" buddies cause we don't like you and from reading the comments on secondcity sgt they don't like you either. Get a life and maybe a boyfriend or girlfriend whatever your preference.
Signed,
present day cop that thinks this so called SSA is a douchebag
"enter the new IAD you will work with various federal agencies and conduct complex investigations using cutting edge techniques. Stay safe and GOD Bless the CPD"
Former CPD Triple Deuce Driver/ Proud Working 1811 SSA FED
2/15/2008 05:33:00 AM
Screw you rat and any IAD anywhere!!
He's attended one graduation where he pretty much parroted the company line.
**That is because Monique writes the speeches. Give him time... he will come up with his own speech. It was the first graduation so he followed what was given to him.
Working fed or whatever you call yourself, will you please go away! You are not one of us, and neither is JODY! Go post on second city snitch, oops I mean second city fed. I don't believe you were Bt222 and I think you have a crush on everything Fed! GET LOST QUIT TRYING TO SELL YOUR MAN CRUSH TO US! SCREW YOU LOSER!!!!!
No one can dispute changes are needed, clout was choking the police department--but I'm a tad concerned about the speed in which he promoted. How can he possibly know who's who? Truth-be-told, I've never heard anything positive about his new "cabinet." It would seem as if this is a puppet move precipitated by Mayor Daley. Am I wrong or does anyone else feel the same way?
no 12 hour days for me, not interested, 4 on and 2 off of 8 hours would be better
When has morale lifted this high on the CPD? The knowledge that we are getting the 12 hour day has lifted our weary spirits to heights unknown.
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Who said he is going to do it? Thinking of it and doing it are very different. Even if he wanted it , why do you think it would be now?
Yeah, I'd like to see how many injuries and lawsuits arise during the last 4 hours of a 12 hour tour, not to mention the number of cop related domestics that arise. You guys are being sold horse poop with sugar on it and you don't even realize it.
12 hr days would suck! what happened to 4 10 hr days?
Hey C. Williams, I hope your fall from grace hurts like hell. When you are sitting around crying about how you got such a raw deal, think about all of the working Police Officer's you fucked over in your pathetic career just to make yourself feel like a big man! You are the most despicable little troll, uniform owner/badge carrier, unimaginative little jag-off I have ever met. Your bullshit Lewis (bought and paid for) degree barely qualifies you to be a TSA at Midway....Fuckwad!
the twelve hour workday will never happen. firstly, it eliminates a watch; therefore eliminating a watch commander, a field lt., sgts. and p.o.s the unions won't and shouldn't go for it.
a four day work week with 10 hour days is feasible. but would have to be worked into the contract. furloughs would change etc.
Hey stupid, this job will never change as long as Daley is the king. You seem to forget that Weis works for Daley and nothing is done without his consent.
**You are very wrong on this one.
o man listenig to the crying on here from the clout babies who may lost their spots get over it assholes you were only in there fpr your selves anyhow we used to call guys like you man overboard in the navy a hour and a half ago
"Former CPD Triple Deuce Driver/ Proud Working 1811 SSA FED"
I got one question,
Is this you Steve Hoogland former Range Guy?
Heard you went to the Feds awhile back?
Anonymous said...
He's attended one graduation where he pretty much parroted the company line.
His first graduation. Mayor and alderman were missing? Monique wrote speech and MT showed him the protocol. I am sure it will change when he has more time on. Exempts avoided him unlike previous graduations with Cline and Starks. He demands ethics and accountability. Finally! Hold white shirts accountable.
What I don't understand why is everyone praising this guy???? just because he made a few changes and now he's the best thing for the department since we got mobile radios.
Before everyone goes out and print "Jody for Mayor" or "Jody for President" signs why don't we wait and see what happens in the future. When we give the guy a chance, he will either be for us or we will get a royal fucking.
I don't have nothing against Weis (at this time) but I do have the "wait and see" attitude.
hi guys lived in 022 untill i retired 7 yrs ago, ginger only cared for lace curtian irish narrowacks from the country club set never gave a shit for the my greenwood ppl as she thought they were emigrants from canaryville and lacked social class etc, if the ppl in mt greenwood knew how little protection they receive on all watches they would storm city hall very scary
no 12 hour days for me, not interested, 4 on and 2 off of 8 hours would be better
2/15/2008 05:21:00 PM
Yeah, I'm with you. Well, except I want 5 hour days, one on and six off. Since we are apparently in fantasy-land.
"Former CPD Triple Deuce Driver/ Proud Working 1811 SSA FED"
I got one question,
Is this you Steve Hoogland former Range Guy?
Heard you went to the Feds awhile back?
2/16/2008 07:57:00 AM
I think "Loud Jerking 1811 ASS FED" was lapa. Right ese? Yo conosco. I know who she is now!! I might tell!!
Finally! Hold white shirts accountable.
2/16/2008 08:16:00 AM
How about holding YOURSELF accountable jackass!! YOU are responsible for YOUR actions! Don't dump your stupidity on your supervisors!!
Be SAFE!!
J fed should not wear the uniform. He is not a Police Officer and will never know what it is to be a Police Officer. J Fed has never worked a beat car, never handled a domestic, and never chased a man with a gun(J Fed would have the locals do that). Take AIRHART situation for instance; J Feds organization (the fed) left him on a floor to die while they (the fed)negotiated with the asshole who shot him. A Chicago Police Officer would have never left a fellow officer down and would have never retreated from the condo after exchanging shots with the bad guy. But the Feds who planned the whole thing out did just that. They ran when the shit hit the fan. It is a fucking insult to all Police Officers when he wears OUR uniform!
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