Nothing is on Paper
According to the Comments Section, the Superintendent was on TV saying something along the lines of, "I just threw that out there because of something an officer said at roll call in 021. There are no plans for anything."
Even in a best case scenario, a 12-hour day is 2 years away and the FOP would be entirely correct to research all options, get everything in writing and put it out for a vote. Then they'd have to do a year in two or four pilot districts and figure out equipment needs, manpower impact and get input from the rank-and-file.
Don't expect the Captains and Lieutenants Associations to go for anything that would reduce their manpower numbers.
Even in a best case scenario, a 12-hour day is 2 years away and the FOP would be entirely correct to research all options, get everything in writing and put it out for a vote. Then they'd have to do a year in two or four pilot districts and figure out equipment needs, manpower impact and get input from the rank-and-file.
Don't expect the Captains and Lieutenants Associations to go for anything that would reduce their manpower numbers.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 7:15 AM
113 Comments:
ha ha! I got prime ocean front real estate in up and coming Englewood for sale. I will retire first before they do any change in the work week.
Great job by the 18th dist and public housing units that saved the kids from the burning building. It was good to see it on tv made feel proud to wear the uniform. Then they showed Abatte story. The sense went away. Stay safe we are all we got and think before you act.
The sooner you learn that this JFED guy is just a FBI bullshit artist the better off you'll be. He's all smoke and mirrors, there will be more nonsensical comments to make the troops love him, that never come to be. Its kind of like the hope message of Obama. He is bought and payed for, recommended by Daley advisors to be a goof at the head of the dept.His next thing will probably be some BS inservice training program that will "be great for the dept." when he realizes or someone points out to him the length of time it takes to get the entire dept. through an inservice he'll "rethink" it. He still hasn't realized that you need butts in the beat cars and can't shut down the FBI Office, oops I mean the CPD and go to a barbeque at the range.
Off Topic:
During the year that Mayor Daley's son had a hidden ownership stake in a sewer company, the business not only landed lucrative deals at City Hall, it also got work from another local government -- the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District of Greater Chicago.
Records show the Water Reclamation District paid the company, Municipal Sewer Services, more than $200,000 to inspect sewers under a contract awarded in 2004. At the time, the agency's top administrator was John Farnan, a longtime member of the 11th Ward Democratic organization run by the mayor's brother, Cook County Commissioner John Daley. Farnan, who has since retired, did not return calls seeking comment.
A note to PO's, DO NOT CHASE!!
This PO is facing 20 years in prison now, while the person he was chasing, gets off scott free.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/
crime/2008/02/14/hostin.high.speed.chase.cnn
Speaking of seeing JFed on tv. He was in full dress uniform when he was interviewed at the graduation ceremony. I must say, it turned my stomach to see him in our uniform. I would have much more respect for him if I had seen him in a suit. He did not earn the right to wear our uniform and I personally think its completly disrespectful for him to wear it, even if it is just for ceremonies.
Hey SCC, check out this story, somse of our own heroically saved children from a fire:
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/cabrini.green.fire.2.653774.html
Finally some good news about us. A hearty thanks to McVicker and Co., they did us proud.
The 12 hour day should be expedited immediately. I hate the six day work week and am desperate to get rid of it.
Every copper I talk to wants the 12 hour schedule and is sick and tired of the BS.
Like the Nike commercial says, JUST DO IT!!!!
12 HOUR DAYS NOW!!!!
it is heartening to see that at least j-fed is listening and thinking about what he is hearing from po's. the city will let him spin the wheel until he goes to daley and says we need money to get new equipment and to implement changes. then it will all be a pipe dream. stay safe and watch each others backs.
It doesn't reduce the MP numbers much, you still would need probably 3 or 4 "teams" to cover the days off.
Team 1 works MTW, Team 2 works TFS
what about sunday??? There has to be a relief team. so you have 3 watches/teams if you want to look at it that way. Schedules change probably every 3 months. Florida has a lot of departments that are 12 hour shifts. Command personnel still work 8 hour shifts - that would be our exempt.
This is bizzare:
Chicago's Police investigate UFO incident
http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2008/02/13/02239.html
12 hours shifts suck.Been there done that.4 tens is the cats ass.
Heyy SCC, just so you know FOP does not have to put it out to vote!
Did anyone vote for the 6 on 3 off schedule that the FOP put into the current contract negoations? NO. This was doing completely on their own with out a vote put out to the members. Without visits to the districts regarding the schedule. Without a word of it being brought up in any FOP newsletter.
The FOP will do whatever they want not matter what the membership wants.
have a weekly husband's marriage
seminar. At the session last week, the Priest asked Luigi, who was
approaching his 50th wedding annive rsary, to take a few minutes and
share
some insight into how he had managed to stay married to the same woman
all
these years.
Luigi replied to the assembled husbands, "Wella, I've a-tried to treat-a
her
nizza, spend da money on her, but besta of all is that I tooka her to
Italy
for the 20th anniversary."
The Priest responded, "Luigi, you are an amazing inspiration to all the
husbands here! Please tell us what you are planning for your wife for
your
50th anniversary."
Luigi proudly replied, "I'm agonna go get her."
But I want it now!
SCC, get over the "man-power" comments. A 12 hour shift will not reduce man power!! It fits evenly into a 24 hour day, unlike the 10 hour days. SCC you don't sound like you are for a 12 hour day, you must be some crusty old timer who just can't accept change. Typical of this department, that is why we are in the stone age compared to every other department, because of people like you.
Cabrini loves the po-po now huh?
Good job guys!!!
I SUGGEST that every Sunday Jody smokes a bong and comes up with a new "outside the box idea" to improve the department. Then, on Mondays throw the idea out there to the rank and file and we talk about about on the blog and in the media.
WAIT . . he's already doing that!
Keep up the good work boss!
Don't take no shit from Daley!
Where in the hell am I going to find 12 hour hair gel? My hair gel usually last 7 maybe 8 hours in this winter weather. I may have to go to the skull cap if we go to 12 hour work days!
Great, with 12 hour tours I will find more Harold's Chicken ate up chicken bones all over the floor of my squad car!
Hey boys and girls, Lt. Richie (hic-up) Scotchbreath here! If they go to an 12 hour work day, my tactical team would have to work at least 6 hrs a day! That's 2 more hours than usual! From my (hic-up) command post at TR's South, I would keep tight control over my tact teams (hic-up) and delegate most of my team's supervision to Sgt (almost Lt.) Terry McMahon! Not sure how my tactical teams would be able to play softball during these long tour hours, but what the hell! (hic-up) I just wish my Chinaman Molloy was still around, he would set J-Fed straight! Well have to run, its free pool table & juke box Wed. at TR's! P.S. That bed wetting alarm is really working! I hardly wet myself at all this week! If you boys and girls have a chance, stop by TR's and buy your favorite Lt. a drink! (hic-up)
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posted by SCC at 7:30 AM
Heh, heh, heh...you said, tool. Heh, heh, heh.
A few drawbacks to 12 hour days.
#1: you have to burn 12 hours of comp time to take a day off.
And if you use a BFD or PD to take off, will you laso have to put a slip for 4 hrs CU with those slips?
#2: Might as well kiss any overtime you are getting away.
T.P. in 021 did a great job talking to J-FED! good work
Once Hillary gets in as President, she plans on bringing back her husband's old program of 100,000 new cops to America!
She is the woman!
After two hard long years in the inner city ghetto, I was asked to come to the narcotics section of organized crimes. Anybody know if this is a good unit? I hate to take it and find out it stinks.
Nice job of showboating in Cabrini! Those buildings don't burn they just get real smokey. Hey just think homeless residents can get free section 8 housing in Edison Park!!!!!
J-Fed is not smoke and mirrors. J-Fed doesn't even smoke and the only mirrors he uses are the ones at the gym where he works out in front of the mirrors to watch his rippling body of muscles pump up as he bench presses over 375 pounds. Sounds like your a little jealous of our hot new super!
Abbate plans to plea that he was dating the female bartender and she was a BD SM rough lover nut! And the tusseling was just some heighten foreplay before she got off work!
I knew there was more to this story than originally reported!
Imagine how many wives of coppers would go nuts when their hubby will now be spending more hours in the day with their female partners than their wives.
As long as I can get a "Select Comfort" car seat, I can work the 12 hr. shifts.
Way to go Jody!!!! Blow smoke up our ass, and get everyone all excited that change may be on the way. Three years from now you will be gone, and things will still be the same. All you are is a high priced motivational speaker.
10 hour schedule:
work/work/work/work/off/off/off.
work/work/work/work/off/off/off.
work/work/work/work/off/off/off.
work/work/work/work/off/off/off.
work/work/work/off/off/off/off.
work/work/work/off/off/off/off.
work/work/work/off/off/off/off.
then start the rotation again.
I love this cop, we need more like him!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=9GgWrV8TcUc
Boston Cop yells at skateboarders
Very Funny!
A course the liberals are all up in arms!
Both mY dogs say WooF Woof NO to the 12 hour work day. They cant hold it that long@
Is there going to be a new sgt's class starting? Does anyone know how many they are going to make?
The hell with the Capt.'s and Lt.'s. Get rid of the Capt.'s rank altogether, ALL merit. The city gets rid of the Capt.'s rank just to bring it back as all merit. Sure there always were a couple of Capt.'s left over when the city tried to get rid of the rank, only to bring it back as all merit selected by clout. Remember the Booze Allen report. Lt.'s do the same job as Capt.'s so as a money saving measure get rid of the Capt. rank as suggested by the report. Then the powers that be then decide we need Capt.'s and decide they will all be picked by merit. What a joke.
Wow, I was hoping they would go to 12 hour day before I returned to duty! I could handle 3 on 3 off, what a deal! If you ask me!
---off topic---- gotta love our union. Need a new vest. Live far from FOP. Called up to see what companies are represented at safety day before I make the trip, so I can research them online before enduring several sales pitches. So I ask "hi, what companies are at the safety day today?" Answer "No idea. There's a lot. You'll have to come down and see." Thanks. Thanks a lot. Could have at least known a couple of the names. One would assume that a list of some sort would have been compiled, but, hey, that would make sense, right? Plus, it would be a lot of work, having to gather a list of like 10 names and either post them online or have the secretary read it to us over the phone. Whole process would be like 1 minute. Yeah, I'm voting for these schmucks again. Seems that they forget that they WORK for US. Well, I'm off to fight traffic, hopefully to see more than second chance and some other company that I can look at in my own neighborhood.....
'OFF TOPIC' AN 80 YEAR OLD WOMAN WAS ROBBED ON VALENTINES DAT ABOUT 11AM IN THE 108TH BLOCK OF ALBANY BY YES YOU GUESSED IT A F/1 AND M/1 DRIVING A SMALL RED CAR. HER NEIGHBOR SAID THAT SHE WAS FOLLOWED FROM 111TH AND KEDZIE AREA, ALSO PERSON ROBBED AT 100TH AND DAMEN ABOUT 1230 PM BY YES YOU GUESSED IT AGAIN A M/1. HELLO FUC-IN 22ND DIST COMMMANDER OR WHOSEVER IN CHARGE WHERE ARE THE FUC-IN POLICE THAT ARE TO BE PATROLLING THE AREA. ALSO WHAT ABOUT ALL THE GARAGE BURGLARIES IN BEVERLY. WAKE THE FUC- UP. JODY SEND IN SOME RELIABLE POLICE
And yet, it's a start.
More than has been reality for God knows how long.
"ha ha! I got prime ocean front real estate in up and coming Englewood for sale."
Hey, if Gore is correct, this might not be so far-fetched.
Just change that description to 'Prime lake front property'.
Shit, you may be sitting on the new Loop.
FOP rep came to 8th district roll call and spent the entire time tearing down the idea of 12hr days. FOP still wants to push for 6 day work weeks, it is disgusting, the people making the decisions on how work schedules, work M-F weekends off, they have forgotten what it is like to work that 6 days..
there are dozens of better schedules out there, but again the people deciding don't have to work 6 days so they don't understand how shitty it is...
this has been an issue over my 16yrs on the job, as well as 20yrs and 80%, it just keeps getting dangled.
FOP, Sgt, Lts, and Capts, need to concentrate on health care for the retired, a couple of contracts ago it was put to a vote for the membership to pay but was allegedly shot down... For around $20 a check all health care could be taken care of, a lot of the young officers on the job are concerned about now not then. They need to hear from soon to be or recent retirees and find out they are paying between $500-800 a month, that is no joke...
as always good luck and stay safe...
What the politicians and JFed are all about-------------------------------------------------------------
While walking down the street one day a US senator
is tragically hit by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in
heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.
"Welcome to heaven," says St. Peter. "Before you
settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom
see a high official around these parts, you see, so
we're not sure what to do with you."
"No problem, just let me in," says the man. "Well, I'd like
to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have
you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can
choose where to spend eternity."
"Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven," says
the senator. "I'm sorry, but we have our rules."
And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes
down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself
in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse
and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians
who had worked with him.
Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him,
shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while
getting rich at the expense of the people. They play a friendly game
of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and champagne.
Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who has a
good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good
time that before he realizes it, it is time to go. Everyone gives him a
hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises...The elevator goes
up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St.Peter is waiting
for him. "Now it's time to visit heaven."
So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls
moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have
a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and
St. Peter returns.
"Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now
choose your eternity."
The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: "Well, I would
never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but
I think I would be better off in hell." So St. Peter escorts him to
the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell.
Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren
land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends, dressed
in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash
falls from above.
The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder.
"I don't understand," stammers the senator. "Yesterday I was here
and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and
caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now
there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable.
What happened?"
The devil looks at him, smiles and says, "Yesterday we were campaigning...
Today you voted."
Bring them 12's on,I can't wait to be off all the time. I might begin to be normal again.
This PO is facing 20 years in prison now, while the person he was chasing, gets off scott free.
That is Gospel. Also, You get in a foot chase for a b.s. bag, get really hurt, and end up in a wheel chair. For what !!!!
Get blinder' on. No one ever got fired for doing shit.
30 plus year vet.
My old lady is delighted with this new Supt. I can't say I am not pleased by what I hear either. Shit,this guy gets us 12 hour days the first thing he does,that is fucking awesome!
SCC,
Where is the thread about the impending bankruptcy of the Chicago Tribune, a very vile slanderous and libelous rag.
The Tribune is getting rid of 5% of its workforce and eliminating several hundred jobs,the print media is finnished. Maybe they can do some more hit pieces on the Chicago Police Department to bolster dwindling readership and advertiser numbers.
Good riddance to garbage,the Tribune is as bad or worse than the Sun Times. Both of these rags are unfit for anything other than cleaning glass.
Is there an affinity for the Chicago Tribune?
did fop take a poll for the 6/3 idea and is that the only alternative i don't remeber even being asked about this and my unit ep said he was never polled either
no one cares about hair gel baby sitting needs so stop acting like that will come into play when the fop decides... sorry, thats life
i am so glad that we are all finally discussing this TOGETHER, that is the only way we will get anything ever is if we stick TOGETHER
God bless the NIU family
anonymous said...
Speaking of seeing JFed on tv. He was in full dress uniform when he was interviewed at the graduation ceremony. I must say, it turned my stomach to see him in our uniform. I would have much more respect for him if I had seen him in a suit. He did not earn the right to wear our uniform and I personally think its completly disrespectful for him to wear it, even if it is just for ceremonies.
2/14/2008 09:56:00 AM
HES THE NEW SUPER. Get over it! I look around at roll call and my stomach is turned by a lot more people that don't deserve the uniform than a retired fed who happens to be our boss. Get over it.
2/14/2008 02:23:00 PM
Come join us & show us how to work, HERO!!
GO F*&K YOURSELF!!
"After two hard long years in the inner city ghetto, I was asked to come to the narcotics section of organized crimes. Anybody know if this is a good unit? I hate to take it and find out it stinks.
2/14/2008 12:43:00 PM"
Yeah you were working it Hard & Long alright,that's how you got the nod to go to Narcotics.
Knock off the BS, WE all know better...
"#2: Might as well kiss any overtime you are getting away."
The OT gravy train ended 4years ago, Who are you kidding??
JODI EARNING THE RIGHT TO WEAR OUR UNIFORM? MY SON TOLD MY PARENTS "THAT A MONKEY COULD DO DADS JOB" WELL SAID BUDDY!
to the officer who wants a vest
POINT BLANK
If you want Just leave me a message
"...it turned my stomach to sHe him (J-Fed) in our uniform. He didn't earn it...."
Spare me your stomach distress. Did Huberman, Lewin,Maher,and all the other "chosen ones" earn the right? Please.
Has anyone ever seen an unhappy Street Deputy or driver? Ask any boss on this job and they will tell you it is the best job on the Department. McNulty takes about
6 / 20 day furloughs a year. Just ask him about a schedule change.
I know at least one of the PO's that was working special and saved those lives, was thinking "why the fuck did I do that?" LMAO
SCC, get over the "man-power" comments. A 12 hour shift will not reduce man power!!
We never said it did. Find where we did.
It fits evenly into a 24 hour day, unlike the 10 hour days.
Duh
SCC you don't sound like you are for a 12 hour day,
Which is why we stated let's see what the City wants to get back. Do you even read the posts we put up? We consider ourselves pretty even handed where this is concerned.
you must be some crusty old timer who just can't accept change.
Yeah slick sleeve, we're crustier than your diaper must be. Trust us, we've seen more change in our time and rolled with it more than you ever could.
Typical of this department, that is why we are in the stone age compared to every other department, because of people like you.
Because as everyone knows, SCC makes policy for the entire Department. If we had our way, you'd still being carrying single shot dueling pieces, everyone would be footmen and the height requirement would have kept you off the job.
Asshat
Does Seiser use hair gel?
You work day is a contractual item. J Fed cant just change things and FOP cant either You are in a contract negotiation right now nothing will happen without negotiating for it
008th District - they tagged 5 building on the North side of Archer/6800 block going West.
Peek a boo! Where are you?
"everyone would be footmen and the height requirement would have kept you off the job.
Asshat"
2/14/2008 06:40:00 PM
Ouch! Touche! SCC you da man, damn!!
Who cares about JFed wearing the uniform...us workers know that more than half the department doesnt deserve to wear it.Lets focus on bettering our situation.Be aware JFed may be trying to gain our trust (swipe rules/12 hr days)before the Dept lowers the boom with new disciplinary rules.JFed aint no GED idiot like Starks or Williams.He knows he is an outsider and would rather be loved than hated.But remember, City Hall calls the shots.Trust me, everything is calculated.City dont give nothing without getting something back, while using JFed as the middle man.Those of you with more than a GED, use yur heads.
You dont think the City reads this blog or has insiders in the FOP meetings to find out what the CPD masses want out of this contract.It is called a bargaining chip.Come contract time, I trade you this for that.We have to pick and choose since the City isnt going to give us it all.Yes, I agree our schedule sucks and we should have it changed without it being a part of the contract, but you all know how this City works.City knows you want something, well give up something for it.Well, we have something in our back pocket, its called the Olympics.How can we use this against the City?This is our bargaining chip.Daley wants it so bad he can taste it, thus his desire to lock us in to a long term contract.FOP needs to realize this and use it to our advantage.We will never get another bargaining chip like this again.It is a wild card and if used properly will give us a better than fair contract.Any ideas people?
To the person who wrote about the Tribune. It was bought out by Sam Zell a billionaire real estate guy. He sold his equity properties right at the high of the real estate boom. Tremendously sharp guy. He took Tribune private. It might be a rag paper but it is not going bankrupt.
old retired guy
Anonymous said...
'OFF TOPIC' AN 80 YEAR OLD WOMAN WAS ROBBED ON VALENTINES DAT ABOUT 11AM IN THE 108TH BLOCK OF ALBANY BY YES YOU GUESSED IT A F/1 AND M/1 DRIVING A SMALL RED CAR. HER NEIGHBOR SAID THAT SHE WAS FOLLOWED FROM 111TH AND KEDZIE AREA, ALSO PERSON ROBBED AT 100TH AND DAMEN ABOUT 1230 PM BY YES YOU GUESSED IT AGAIN A M/1. HELLO FUC-IN 22ND DIST COMMMANDER OR WHOSEVER IN CHARGE WHERE ARE THE FUC-IN POLICE THAT ARE TO BE PATROLLING THE AREA. ALSO WHAT ABOUT ALL THE GARAGE BURGLARIES IN BEVERLY. WAKE THE FUC- UP. JODY SEND IN SOME RELIABLE POLICE
2/14/2008 02:23:00 PM
Since you want to stir the sh*t pot how about giving out a better description,Sherlock Holmes.
i have 4 years on and read the post about only costing 20 a check to give retirees health care....i would be all for it....when i retire i dont want to worry about money, your pension check should be to spend on doing things not health care.
CAPTAINS: A TOTALLY NEEDLESS POSITION:
If not a single Capt. came to work over a 24 hour period what would be the result?
NOTHING, Absolutely nothing. They do NOTHING but sign meaningless/endless reports that mean NOTHING.
Every one of them a "merit" hack. Sure, some are good people personally but they all should be ashamed of themselves stealing their fat saleries from the taxpayers.
Captains, if you think ANYONE has any respect for your exalted position you couldn'd be more wrong. Political hacks, all of them.
Holy Hemorrhoid Batman!
Wow...Eight hours in a Ford dealing with street mopes all day ain’t enough! Now we can add four more hours a day with these pleasure beasts. Captain Weiss when are you going to stop talking shit to the media, stop listening to a bunch of whiners at roll calls and start making some real changes...Like the merit process, opening up specialized units, settle our contracts and some better training & equipment. The FBI is all about image and lacks substance. Kids! Sir Van Der Weiss is just pulling our third leg (sorry ladies) but, this tripod ain’t fallen for the bullshit Weissoff! I want a three year contract for $930,000.00 too!
Kudos to Special Employment. May that open doors to Special Employment in other units throughout the city as a source for supplemental policing.
To the 025th district poster:
This is why we don't have comradery. When someone does something good on this job, there's always some disgruntled copper that has to view it so negatively. I say let's actually stick together, we've got some rough times ahead with new rules and rules being made up as we go. We gotta have unity.
I can sit here and MF 025th dist guy, but how different would I be.
Looks loke some special employment and 018th dist guys and gals stepped up to the plate and did a nice job. For once, a camera was there when we don't mind. Look at the flames and smoke in the footage, that is the real deal. Glad to see the media actually giving praise to the police. Job well done I say.
Also got the heat off Abbate for a minute.
Since absolutely no one likes the 6 day work week I propose this schedule:
Beat Cars will work 12 hour days making two shifts. Proposed start time 5am to 5pm, 5pm to 5am late cars start at 6.
All rapids will be 10 hour shifts there will only be two shifts 8am to 6pm and 4pm to 2am.
Just throwing this out there since FOP isn't putting any possibilities except the 6 and 3.
Let me know what you guys think.
J fed I mean cave man (per sneed)
looked stupid in uniform. He wa way to stiff. I think he is a cop waanabee. he probably wanted to always be a cop but ge was too much of a dork...so he joined th fbi like the rest of the dorks. J fed get out of our uniform and stay in your suit!!
GOOD JOB CPD FOR THE FIRE RESCUE. SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR ONCE. BUT HEY WHERE IS JESSIE JACKSON TO SAY "GOOD JOB" WHY DOESN'T THE CAVE COME OUT ON TV AND PLUG HIS OFFICERS. IT'S THE PERFECT TIME TO START SOME GOOD PUBLICITY FOR THE CPD.
I'M SURE IF THE POLICE DIDN'T GO IN THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN CRUSIFIED AND CALLED RACIST.
'OFF TOPIC' AN 80 YEAR OLD WOMAN WAS ROBBED ON VALENTINES DAT ABOUT 11AM IN THE 108TH
022 did a great job a tac car was on the scene when the zone was still talking to the caller on the phone.
The wait for the ambulance was a disgrace, twenty minutes all we got was a fire truck with five guys standing around waiting for the ambulance.
Robbery on Longwood and Damen also had cars on scene in less than a minute. How can you blame the coppers or the brass? Unless you have covert cars sitting in an area on something no way to prevent what occurred.
Pattern crimes should be handled with cooperation between dicks/tac and the financial resources to use covert cars, over-time etc should be provided but not on this department in this day in age.
Hopefully the offenders wil go into Oak Lawn or Evergreen whose Police have the right resources to handle these situtations.
it sucks but it is the nature of the beast, wolf on lamb.
I don't think 12 hour days will fly but what about 4 on 2 off...we would work 17 days less per year so we would have to give up something....one suggestion is no comp or paid holidays unless you actually work them and maybe give up some P days and BF days.
2/14/2008 12:39:00 PM
#1 Arrest people u ass then you will get court for overtime
#2 Who cares if you have to burn 12 hours to get 5 days off in a row. Are you a mental midget? 3 on 4 off, a 36 hour work week, vs 48, I know they taught you old timers math when you went to school back in the day, I think 36 is a lot less than 48.
#3 A BFD or a P-day are exactly what they say in our contract, a day.
Speaking of seeing JFed on tv. He was in full dress uniform when he was interviewed at the graduation ceremony. I must say, it turned my stomach to see him in our uniform. I would have much more respect for him if I had seen him in a suit. He did not earn the right to wear our uniform and I personally think its completly disrespectful for him to wear it, even if it is just for ceremonies.
2/14/2008 09:56:00 AM
Get over it and stop being so insecure. We didn't tell you that you couldn't wear the uniform when u got out of the academy did we... Give this guy a chance!
SCC - FYI
All Deputy Supts. demoted Thursday.
Anonymous said...
'OFF TOPIC' AN 80 YEAR OLD WOMAN WAS ROBBED ON VALENTINES DAT ABOUT 11AM IN THE 108TH BLOCK OF ALBANY BY YES YOU GUESSED IT A F/1 AND M/1 DRIVING A SMALL RED CAR. HER NEIGHBOR SAID THAT SHE WAS FOLLOWED FROM 111TH AND KEDZIE AREA, ALSO PERSON ROBBED AT 100TH AND DAMEN ABOUT 1230 PM BY YES YOU GUESSED IT AGAIN A M/1. HELLO FUC-IN 22ND DIST COMMMANDER OR WHOSEVER IN CHARGE WHERE ARE THE FUC-IN POLICE THAT ARE TO BE PATROLLING THE AREA. ALSO WHAT ABOUT ALL THE GARAGE BURGLARIES IN BEVERLY. WAKE THE FUC- UP. JODY SEND IN SOME RELIABLE POLICE
2/14/2008 02:23:00 PM
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You must be one of the same douchbags yelling about the "home invasion" at 112th and Central Park in 022, and how everyone in 022 was lazy with that one. I don't hear anything about that anymore....Why, you ask? Could it be because the "victim" was lying about everything the whole time, and you fell for it? Could it be that the story, as heard by on-scene people, was thought from the outset to be a fake, and detectives were required to follow through on it?
I know, a small minded individual like you and your 2 friends who keep re-posting on the board about the dogs in 022, over and over again, could never admit you are wrong. Well, in 15 years, after you get done being a PPO, maybe you could show us how it is done when you bid to 022 to "save the homefront." Plenty of people are doing that now, they just don't brag about it.
PS The robbery was absolutely legit, and tragic. However, we can't be everywhere in 022, unlike you and your superhero friends stroking off to the underwear ads in the Sunday paper.
You were right and I was wrong, I admit it to the entire community reading this blog.
Several weeks ago I said to give J-Fed a break, and who cares if he wears a uniform!
Brother was I wrong!
I thought Fat Phil looked bad!
Words cannot explain how silly J-Fed looks. He is a fashon disaster and looks GAY (sorry 023).
Whoever said he should stay in a suit was right.
Anyone else notice this?
Lauren and Hardy;
Weis and Cline?
Change the name to Gay-Fed.
Just the mere fact that CPD needs WC approval/ASA approvals on all but a few felonies is a FUCKING JOKE! In many of the burbs (uncluding the one I worked in for 7 years) as a PO you arrive at a call, use logic to determine what has occurred. Decide who is at fault. Take in all the elements of the crime, articulate them in your report and arrest the mope accordingly. You have the victim sign the appropriate complaint, bring the offender into lockup, finish your paper work, drop it in a bin, and have a nice day. (A few burbs require the PO to print and picture but that isnt the point.)
Towards the end of the shift, a Sgt comes by lockup, grabs the reports, clerks them (not approving anything) and goes to check off. if there isnt grounds for a felony, the bond court judge determines that the next day. Otherwise, the POs are trusted to make the right decision. The city trusts that the training and education given to the POs is adequate. But NOOOOOOO not here in the shitty of Chicago... You wanna trim the fat, get rid of Captains, slim down the SAO by not having felony review, have one Lt per watch and a couple Sgts and everything will run a lot smoother!
You must be one of the same douchbags yelling about the "home invasion" at 112th and Central Park in 022, and how everyone in 022 was lazy with that one. I don't hear anything about that anymore....Why, you ask? Could it be because the "victim" was lying about everything the whole time, and you fell for it? Could it be that the story, as heard by on-scene people, was thought from the outset to be a fake, and detectives were required to follow through on it?
I know, a small minded individual like you and your 2 friends who keep re-posting on the board about the dogs in 022, over and over again, could never admit you are wrong. Well, in 15 years, after you get done being a PPO, maybe you could show us how it is done when you bid to 022 to "save the homefront." Plenty of people are doing that now, they just don't brag about it.
PS The robbery was absolutely legit, and tragic. However, we can't be everywhere in 022, unlike you and your superhero friends stroking off to the underwear ads in the Sunday paper.
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Are you kidding me????? 3rd watch in 022 are hustlers and do work and I actually see them by the tax payers homes..but midnights? Absolutley worthless only place i can find a beat car on 1st watch is 7-11, white hen, and running around trying to save the money sucking things on the east end. Get off your asses and hunt these mother fu$%ers down and lock them up they don't belong!!!! i have 10 yrs on and can get in 022 on performance and awards alone..so don't pull that crap im not in the TOTALLY RETARDED UNIT either (TRU).
After two hard long years in the inner city ghetto, I was asked to come to the narcotics section of organized crimes. Anybody know if this is a good unit? I hate to take it and find out it stinks.
2/14/2008 12:43:00 PM
U R A.............. T-R-O-L-L!
J-Fed needs to learn about unions and contract law. As a seventeen year vet my advice is to vote no to anything they offer, they being the city. Twelve hour days are actually fourteen hour days when you think about the time it takes to get ready for and travel to and from work.
The big question is this: Is anyone else insulted that this never has been the police Mother Fucker suggesting that we need this in order to curtail what we do off duty? He is not looking out for anyone but himself.
J-Fed Suk it.
anonymous said...
After two hard long years in the inner city ghetto, I was asked to come to the narcotics section of organized crimes. Anybody know if this is a good unit? I hate to take it and find out it stinks.
2/14/2008 12:43:00 PM
The fact that you have to ask means that you have not spent nearly enough time in the ghetto. And don't get a big head just because your dad's old partner, or your uncle, or whomever you clout is asked you to come over....with 2 years (wow, thats a long time!!!) in the ghetto, I'm surprised they didn't give you a key to the city, a blowjob, and a gold star! You deserve it kiddo, way to go!
anonymous said...
Bring them 12's on,I can't wait to be off all the time. I might begin to be normal again.
2/14/2008 03:31:00 PM
Yeah, cause most normal people work 12's. If you want normal, how bout working, I dunno, 8 hour days?
Anonymous said...
Who cares about JFed wearing the uniform...us workers know that more than half the department doesnt deserve to wear it.Lets focus on bettering our situation.Be aware JFed may be trying to gain our trust (swipe rules/12 hr days)before the Dept lowers the boom with new disciplinary rules.JFed aint no GED idiot like Starks or Williams.He knows he is an outsider and would rather be loved than hated.But remember, City Hall calls the shots.Trust me, everything is calculated.City dont give nothing without getting something back, while using JFed as the middle man.Those of you with more than a GED, use yur heads.
2/14/2008 07:25:00 PM
Are you for real? The disciplinary process is an absolute joke on the CPD now,unless you are a "clout baby".
How many innocent unclouted officers have been defmaed int he media and thrown to the wolves?
How many "clout babies" did the unspeakable for literally years with no punnishment? Coppers with clout have walked away from homicides and been promoted. Please,there will be no dropping the boom on discipline on the CPD,unless you are maybe a "clout baby".
I could careless about anything now except my retirement date,12 hour days and pension. Everyone wants the 12 hour day,I could give a rats ass about residency or discipline.
The disciplinary system can only get better and fairer to those of us unclouted working stiffs.
Give us the 12 hour day,fix our pension and healthcare and you will raise morale and make coppers truly happy.
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Richard Doroniuk said...
Wow, I was hoping they would go to 12 hour day before I returned to duty! I could handle 3 on 3 off, what a deal! If you ask me!
2/14/2008 01:56:00 PM
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Rich, your under Federal Indictments and awaiting trial...I really don't think the City is holding your position open of Tact Guy in 022 Dist! But good luck anyhow!
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lt. richie scotchbreath said...
Hey boys and girls, Lt. Richie (hic-up) Scotchbreath here! If they go to an 12 hour work day, my tactical team would have to work at least 6 hrs a day! That's 2 more hours than usual! From my (hic-up) command post at TR's South, I would keep tight control over my tact teams (hic-up) and delegate most of my team's supervision to Sgt (almost Lt.) Terry McMahon! Not sure how my tactical teams would be able to play softball during these long tour hours, but what the hell! (hic-up) I just wish my Chinaman Molloy was still around, he would set J-Fed straight! Well have to run, its free pool table & juke box Wed. at TR's! P.S. That bed wetting alarm is really working! I hardly wet myself at all this week! If you boys and girls have a chance, stop by TR's and buy your favorite Lt. a drink! (hic-up)
2/14/2008 12:29:00 PM
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God, do cops have a great sense of humor! I was laughing my ass off on this Richie Scotchbreath post. Very fricken funny!
anonymous said...
"...it turned my stomach to sHe him (J-Fed) in our uniform. He didn't earn it...."
Spare me your stomach distress. Did Huberman, Lewin,Maher,and all the other "chosen ones" earn the right? Please.
2/14/2008 06:31:00 PM
Agreed. Getting through our cheesey Academy is no indication of who "deserves" to wear the uniform. Give this bs over the uniform a rest. So typical of the members of our department, getting caught up in petty gripes and totally missing the substantive issues that plague us.
The reason's you have Captains and the reason the City had to re-make the rank (although in their own best interest) was because of the conflict between the acting watchcommanders. Once they initiated the end of the old real Cpts, LT's were the W/Cs. The problem arose when one LT. was trying to tell another LT. what to do. Too many fights about who should have the power. It's like another P.O. ordering you to do something? Not going to happen especially if that person is like a lot of the morons they give rank to. Needed a higher rank to give the orders. Chain of command. You have to have some rank in the department to ive officers something toaspire to. Need something to shoot for...
anonymous said...
You were right and I was wrong, I admit it to the entire community reading this blog.
Several weeks ago I said to give J-Fed a break, and who cares if he wears a uniform!
Brother was I wrong!
I thought Fat Phil looked bad!
Words cannot explain how silly J-Fed looks. He is a fashon disaster and looks GAY (sorry 023).
Whoever said he should stay in a suit was right.
Anyone else notice this?
Lauren and Hardy;
Weis and Cline?
Change the name to Gay-Fed.
2/14/2008 10:26:00 PM
Sounds to me as if you're jealous that our new superintendent is hot and you're not. He has a body to die for. He'll get used to the uniform, but you'll never be hot.
1. Can you imagine having to ride in a car with a partner the watch secretary sticks you with that you can't stand working with for 8 hours let alone 12??
2. So if you get 8 hours of sleep a night, that leaves you with about 3 hours a day during your work week to get anything else you need to get taken care of done.
3. In my opinion I think 4 10's would be better if we were to change it. 12 hour days would be nice if you work in a district where everyone doesn't need their asses wiped for them all day long calling about how they "can't control their 8 year old" and "I want my baby daddy out of the house". Imagine that 11 and a half hours into your 12 hour tour on your 3rd day on. Food for thought.
12 HOUR DAYS IS NOT THE SOLUTION!
Is anyone else insulted that this never has been the police Mother Fucker suggesting that we need this in order to curtail what we do off duty? He is not looking out for anyone but himself.
J-Fed Suk it.
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Go read it again Einstein. That wasn't J-Fed suggesting that, it was the former cop turned college professor making the wisecrack about "choir practice."
I don't think 12 hour days will fly but what about 4 on 2 off...we would work 17 days less per year so we would have to give up something....one suggestion is no comp or paid holidays unless you actually work them and maybe give up some P days and BF days
DONT GIVE ANYTHING!
8 hours, 5 days a week. 2 off, 3 day weekends. the sixth day is the only thing i do not want anymore.
Just the mere fact that CPD needs WC approval/ASA approvals on all but a few felonies is a FUCKING JOKE! In many of the burbs (uncluding the one I worked in for 7 years) as a PO you arrive at a call, use logic to determine what has occurred. Decide who is at fault.-------------------MAYBE YOU'RE RIGHT, BUT WE 1ST WOULD HAVE TO GET RID OF THE MENTALITY THAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO GO TO JAIL (EXAMPLE: 2 KIDS WHO GO INTO AN ABONDONED BUILDING ARE NOT BURGLARS..YET TACT WOULD TRY AND HOOK EM UP ON A BURGLARY (WHO CARES THEY 'RE ONLY JUVENILES RIGHT?) - USE COMMON SENSE AND YOU'RE RIGHT...
You have to have some rank (Capt.'s) in the Dept. to give officers something to aspire to. Something to shoot for... Thats all fine and dandy except that it's an all merit position. Do you have the clout to ever make the Capt.'s rank? Make it a level playing field, so at the least you can ASPIRE to be a Capt. without the clout.
Just the mere fact that CPD needs WC approval/ASA approvals on all but a few felonies is a FUCKING JOKE...as a PO you arrive at a call, use logic to determine what has occurred. Decide who is at fault. Take in all the elements of the crime, articulate them in your report and arrest the mope accordingly.
2/14/2008 10:30:00 PM
Use logic, articulate?? Surely you are joking. You probably should sit in a W/C's office sometime and read some Arrest Reports.
25th Dist copper is a punk. You dont have to go through a fire to get burned by it. Bob and the other guys did a good job.
CM from when 005 was Pullman.
OH MY GOD!!!!!! I BROUGHT SOME EXTRA DIAPERS FOR ALL YOU BABIES. 12 HOUR DAYS WOULD SAVE THE DEPARTMENT AND ALL OF US. WE WOULD HAVE MORE TIME WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND LESS TIME ON THE STREET BEING HATED. GET THE 12 HOUR SHIFT STARTED IMMEDIATELY.
12 HOUR DAYS ONLY MEANS ONE THING TO ME LIVING IN THE 022ND DISTRICT. THAT THE DOGGAS$$IS WORKIN THERE WILL SPEND 4 MORE HOURS DOING NOTHING, WHILE BEVERLY AND MT GREENWOOD GET TAKEN OVER. OH YEAH BY THE WAY DID YOU DOGGS IN 22DIST REALIZE THERES A BURGLARY PATTERN IN BEVERLY FROM 89TH TO 94TH METRA TRACKS TO CLAIREMONT, FOUND THIS INFO ON CHGO POLICE WEBSITE CLEARPATH. CAN I GET AN APPLICATION TO BE THE POLICE AND SHOW YOU HOW TO LOCK UP CRIMINALS.
I'll do 12 hr. days when J-Fed does 12 hr. days. In a beat car in 011. When he's denied lunch 2 or 3 times a week. When his "boss" gives boo-boo the number to ops/what-ever-it's called-now to get a # on him because he wasn't "professional" enough. When he's denied comp time because of manpower issues (Not For Long!). When he knows the numbers to Felony Review, Gun Desk, etc. off the top of his head. When he can pacify/bullshit the westside native with a slick tongue. When he goes w/o a contract/pay raise for two years. When he has to work a part time to be able to exist on more than mere "essentials". When an inspector writes him up for not having mace on his duty belt. When he spends 20+ years in a ghetto (BY CHOICE - I'm not looking for sympathy). "I just threw the 12 hr. schedule out there...". Blow me. You are NOT one of us, and therefore don't know what's best for us. I must have mistaken the taught lines on your face & mishaped eyes for plastic surgery, when in all actuality it's Da Mare's strings pulling your puppet-like extremities. Welcome to the Windy City, J-Fed. Now sit down, strap in and shut the fuck up.
"Use logic, articulate?? Surely you are joking. You probably should sit in a W/C's office sometime and read some Arrest Reports.
2/15/2008 11:00:00 AM"
You aren't kidding. But when the W/C tries to explain to the PO how to articulate probable cause, the crybaby copper storms out of the office bawling his eyes out. He immediately calls his Daddy a Boss who in turn tells the W/C approve the Arrest if he knows what is good for him. That's how this shit perpetuates itself, seen in 1st hand. IT'S FACT!!
#3 A BFD or a P-day are exactly what they say in our contract, a day.
2/14/2008 09:24:00 PM
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You are wrong about that, they are worth 8 hours ... when you sell them or when you use them...
12 hour work day? Our Commander's significant other doesnt show up to work now, how will they cover up 4 more hours? We all want to see the clout babies gone, lets get rid of the ones all together that get the great spots then don't even show up to do the job (what ever that is anyway)!!!!!!!!! Hey JFed when are you coming to 020?????????
For the P.O. interested in the narcotics unit. No overtime permitted,you will be assigned one of two dog's friday/saturday off or sunday/monday off,if you are given court on you'r day off you will be required to submit a to-from as to explain why you have court on you'r day off. You are nickle and dimed to death for "FUNDRAISERS" that you will be required to actively support.Last but certainely not the least you will be required to constantly let the bosses know how important they (the bosses)are to your current/next career move.If you think it's political in the district's just wait till you get to the one of their super special nagis teams.
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