Another Crazy Rumor
This just seems like another goofy idea to distract everyone from some other boneheaded move. From the comments (lightly edited for spelling):
- Regarding the rumor that J-Fed is planning on putting all light duty officers assigned to headquarters into the districts to work the desk and then the desk officers in that district will go to the new school unit.
- The problem J-Fed would encounter with that is that in each district there are 1 or 2 bidded desk officers per watch. They can't be arbitrarily moved to a "new" unit and some light duty copper take their place. These bidded desk spots are part of the contract and he can't go changing things like that just because he gets a bright idea.
- If he needs more coppers for some new school unit maybe he could continue trimming the fat at headquarters and then start looking at the districts that have (3) commander's secretaries,(2) Tact secretaries, A P.O. and a civilian timekeeper, (2) Crime Analysts, and 12- 14 C.A.P.S. officers. If he really wants to look hard enough he'll uncover plenty of officers who could be better utilized.
You can't just create a unit and staff it with hand picked people. Well, scratch that - you can't create a unit that does EXACTLY what a previously biddable unit did in the past and staff it at will. There are rules in place that must be followed.
Again, J-Fed not being familiar with contracts and being advised by people who don't think much about rules (because they've flouted the rules since day one) serve to make J-Fed look incompetent and advised by fools. And after the grievances are filed and won, taxpayers will be on the hook again for overtime, damages and restitution. We're starting to think that certain changes are proposed only to make lawyers rich. Anyone else?
Again, J-Fed not being familiar with contracts and being advised by people who don't think much about rules (because they've flouted the rules since day one) serve to make J-Fed look incompetent and advised by fools. And after the grievances are filed and won, taxpayers will be on the hook again for overtime, damages and restitution. We're starting to think that certain changes are proposed only to make lawyers rich. Anyone else?
Labels: dumb ideas, new super
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
92 Comments:
when is jfed going to realize the media is not your friend? He needs to shut his mouth on things he has no idea about, all he does is make himself look like a fool...
He'll make a good politician in the future, makes all kinds of promises that he has no intention of keeping...
Off topic, but any word on the car chase from 001 to 004? Started by a boss, terminated by a boss and continued by same boss? ending in a crash.
CAPS
WHAT DOES THE SENIOR OFFICE REALLY?
EVERY CASE I HAVE REFERENCED TO THE CAPS OFFICE SEEM TO NOT HAVE DAMN THING DONE. I FOLLOWED UP WITH A SENIOR AND THEY TOLD ME A DICK CALLED THEM AND THAT WAS IT.
YOU ASK THE CAPS OFFICE TO PUT A NOTICE IN THE C.O BOOK AND THEY LOOK AT YOU LIKE YOUR A NUT.
A CAPS MEETING IS ABOUT 45MINS WHAT THE HELL DO THE OFFICER DO FOR THE REST OF THE DAY. ATTENDANCE AINT UP
THE R NOT INFORMING THOSE CRAZY CIVILIAN OF ANYTHING. CAPS OFFICER DONT KEEP UP WITH ANY CASE IN THEIR DIST.
WHAT DOES A CAPS LT DO? MAKE CAPS REPORTS? HOW DO THEY SOLVE ARE CRIME PROBLEM? IS THE CAPTAIN ON THE WATCH TOO BUSY TO RUN THAT OFFICE?
WHY ARE THEY IN CIVILIAN CLOTHES?
HOW COME THE ITEMS THEY PASS OUT NEVER SEEM TO REACH THEIR DESTINATIONS?
WHAT DOES THE DOMESTIC CAPS COP DO?
DONT SVU DICKS INFORM VICTIMS WHAT TO DO? HAVE ANY OF YOU SEEN A DOMESTIC OFFICER IN THE DOMESTIC COURT BUILDING WITH A VICTIM?
MAYBE AN AUDIT OF THEIR TIME IS NEEDED! DONT WE HAVE A BUNCH OF WHITE SHIRT WITH MASTERS DEGREES WHO KNOW HOW TO DO AN AUDIT?
TOGEATHER WE CAN
I saw the Stream.Video today on the National Memorial narrated at the end by J-Fed. Probably one of the better if not most meaningful videos I've seen in 10 years. About time...
How about the detective division.
Two or three police officers assigned to each area as administrative staff?
P/os assigned to fugitive apprehension, cold case, unit 601 and 606.
How about the light duty detective spots wouldn't these people be an asset to call back, since they can not work the street?
Why does each unit need two field detectives to answer the phones for violent, two for robbery and two for youth on the second and third watch. Six people doing a job two desk people in a district would handle. In the district two desk people and a sergeant. In the detective unit six to nine dicks to answer the phone with six to nine Sgts working.
Why do they have three Sgts working youth, three violent, and three robbery Sgts some days all at the same time including a summary sergeant and mission team sergeant?
District supervisory personnel are denied time due because of no Sgts, but on the second and third watches most detective units have six to nine supervisors available.
How do the dicks get away with only one or two Sgts on midnights and on some nights work with only one supervisor?
How do they do that on the first watch, when all the other sgts work the second and third watch?
Why do they need two Area gun team sgts, and a Area mission team sgt.
Those units should report to the watch commander and be placed on a sector sgts log.
How many sgts are hidden in narcotics.
Go after the specialized units who have people hidden away if you want supervisors and bodies.
Use reverse seniority and detail detectives back to patrol for ninety days at a time until we hire more people on the street.
ITS GOING TO BE A GREAT SUMMER .
O.T.......City finance Dept. has a plan to resolve the City's cash crisis...99 year lease to highest bidder for Meigs Field.
12 Caps Officers
11 Bike Patrols
10 Citation Clerks
9 Computer Operators
8 Activity Clerks
7 Secretary Assistants
6 Review Assistants
5 Supply Officers
4 Court Advocates
3 Commander's Secretaries
2 Timekeepers
AND AN OFFICE THAT STILL CAN'T GET THEIR WORK DONE.
Anonymous said...
Don't be fooled about that drunk bitch, PO KK ~ she was the one stealing the time. She was convelescent duty and working for time & a half at OHare!
4/07/2008 03:47:00 PM
Carroll was her boss! fuckim!
He was also padding the pockets of roy and tim just to have someone listen to his war stories.
again this idiot again dude j-fuck seriously just read our contract before you blurt shit out of that yapper of yours...what an idiot..again this has been said many times but this guy has no idea what goes on here and that we have a contract with certain guarentees..so go fuck yourself j-pud
There are PO's filling civilian positions in every unit. Why? Hire civilians and reassign officers to the street. Districts have numerous hidden spots for PO's besides the desk. Specialized units, academy and 35th street use officers in civilian spots. Homan square, for example. Complete an aduit of PO's that hold civilian positions in department. You would be surprised.
to 12:34 am
Unfortunately under Fill's command, he created a repetitive and ridiculous amount of statistical reports due to doc. He also put some of the biggest goofs in high ranking positions, who followed the leader in perfecting micromanaging, who also created more nonsensical reports that said the same thing as the doc reports. Lets hope the new command is reviewing these practices and will consider relieving some of that wasted manpower of doing those unnecessary reports.
And don't be so hard on the D unit's manpower. Until you get there, you have no idea how insanely busy it gets up there, and what it takes to conduct a proper investigation of any crime. I can account for every body you spoke of, but I aint got time to explain it to you Jodi, because some of those questions were absolutely stupid and had to come from someone with zero time on this job.
Like everywhere, some days are busier than others, but the workload in the D unit is always there, it doesn't go away. Like everywhere, some officers work harder than others, some officers don't care about the quality of their work, and supervisors know it, and do nothing about it.
I think this googly eyed bastard is one of "Jerry's Kids"
get heir lazy asses out on the street. arrest somebody. cpd are a bunch of lazy do-nothings. that's why the city is a shit hole.
well..sounds like we have come full circle now..king daley must be proud that he has us suporting his wealth..ie:
"There are PO's filling civilian positions in every unit."
4/08/2008 06:00:00 AM
Off topic, but any word on the car chase from 001 to 004? Started by a boss, terminated by a boss and continued by same boss? ending in a crash.
4/07/2008 11:21:00 PM
001 lost sight of the car at 63 or 67 and state. and 003 district car sees the car speeding south bound at 71/stony. car crashes at 79/stony. great job by all involved, including state police for their quick response also.
bad guy caught, gun found.
Supt. Weis, I am going to tell you what your newly appointed exempt staff has choosen not to clue you in on, due to the fact that they are that incompetent, or they just want you to keep making a damm fool out of yourself. GET AN FOP CONTRACT BOOK AND READ IT!!!, GET A COPY OF THE GENERAL ORDERS, SPECIAL ORDERS, DEPARTMENT NOTICES ETC, AND READ THEM!!!
Lets see them dump Corry from the desk in 025 and throw her back on the street again. They did that to her when she was on midnites, so she went on the medical until a spot on afternoons opened up for her. It would be a good laugh.
How about hiring some people instead of sending a class home after they quit their jobs. What a joke.
Off topic, but any word on the car chase from 001 to 004? Started by a boss, terminated by a boss and continued by same boss? ending in a crash.
Started in 001, 100 was involved in the chase, went through distrits 002, (state police also) 003 and ended in 004 (79 stony island when vehicle crashed into the viaduct) 100 terminated it but it just kept going...after they got off the ryan they went down 63rd to stony island then lost control at 79th, one was caught right away...the other a few minutes later. Gun recovered from the car by a field LT from 003 i heard. Apparently shots were being fired from that vehicle in 001 and 100 said they were shooting at them.
WTF!!!!!!
WHY CAN'T THE "SUPT" HAVE SOME BALLS TO TELL SGT'S AND P. O. 'S THAT ARE NOT LIGHT DUTY TO GET OFF THERE ASS AND HIT THE STREET. ONCE AGAIN, WALK AROUND 35TH STREET AND YOU'LL SEE THESE POEPLE DUCKING AND HIDING BEHIND THE GREAT WALLS (CUBICLES). IT'S TIME TO GET PAYED FOR WHAT YOU SIGNED UP FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OR
DOES BEING ASSIGNED TO "HQ" PROTECT YOU FROM THE SUPT'S MIGHTY SWORD?
Re: hater said
your identity says it all. There may very well be some CAPS officers who aren'r doing a damn thing, but I can assure you there are just as many p.o.'s. I don't know where you came from or where you get your info, but if you stop through the 7th district on any given day at any given time and talk to or better yet just stand there, you'll see what they do. Th Domestic and senior officers work there asses off, to include contacting victims, go to court, go out and check status of victims and in some cases follow up. I don't know hat the others do at their units, detective units, svu, but I know what these do and actually it's none of my fucking business what they do, just like none of this is your business. Do us a favor, run for mayor, take Jody's place or fork up some cash to hire more police and get us a raise. Until then shut the fuck up, quit complaining and worry about you. (Rangers for life)
Read todays Sun-Times. Pat Daley to take a higher (whatever that means) spot to advise J-Fed. So much for the 1st Dep. spot.
J-PUD
You're a goof. Read the federal manual in-re. open mouth insert foot.
Pretend police.
Junior knee-jerk!
If you have a a detective on the desk at $80,000 plus, it would be more cost efficient to have TWO civilians doing that job at $40,000 each, without all the furloughs, baby furloughs, time due, overtime, etc. But, then again, all the house cats would actually have to do the job they were sworn in to do..
So let me get this straight, J-Pud is going to arbitrarily kick me (a 24 year vet) out of my bid spot, move me off my bid watch, and move me out of my district, am I missing anything? Oh, yea, my rights under the contract! A little history for you J-Pud, when Charlie Williams was all but running the department he kicked a bid officer off the desk, the officer spent one day on the street before Williams personally called him at home to apologize and ask what he can do to make things right. Williams wasn’t very well liked, but at least he had a clue as to what was going on in this department. You, J-Pud, are totally clueless. If you’re any indication of what the F.B.I. is really like, it is no wonder why the F.B.I. is held in contempt by the rest of federal law enforcement.
Ah, KK, thought you were above the rest of us, come on! Your BF Marv got you a spot in 24 in the office, you need to go back on the street, Princess. Even with all the stealing, you're STILL being protected.
CAPS
WHAT DOES THE SENIOR OFFICE REALLY?
EVERY CASE I HAVE REFERENCED TO THE CAPS OFFICE SEEM TO NOT HAVE DAMN THING DONE. I FOLLOWED UP WITH A SENIOR AND THEY TOLD ME A DICK CALLED THEM AND THAT WAS IT.
YOU ASK THE CAPS OFFICE TO PUT A NOTICE IN THE C.O BOOK AND THEY LOOK AT YOU LIKE YOUR A NUT.
A CAPS MEETING IS ABOUT 45MINS WHAT THE HELL DO THE OFFICER DO FOR THE REST OF THE DAY. ATTENDANCE AINT UP
THE R NOT INFORMING THOSE CRAZY CIVILIAN OF ANYTHING. CAPS OFFICER DONT KEEP UP WITH ANY CASE IN THEIR DIST.
WHAT DOES A CAPS LT DO? MAKE CAPS REPORTS? HOW DO THEY SOLVE ARE CRIME PROBLEM? IS THE CAPTAIN ON THE WATCH TOO BUSY TO RUN THAT OFFICE?
WHY ARE THEY IN CIVILIAN CLOTHES?
HOW COME THE ITEMS THEY PASS OUT NEVER SEEM TO REACH THEIR DESTINATIONS?
WHAT DOES THE DOMESTIC CAPS COP DO?
DONT SVU DICKS INFORM VICTIMS WHAT TO DO? HAVE ANY OF YOU SEEN A DOMESTIC OFFICER IN THE DOMESTIC COURT BUILDING WITH A VICTIM?
MAYBE AN AUDIT OF THEIR TIME IS NEEDED! DONT WE HAVE A BUNCH OF WHITE SHIRT WITH MASTERS DEGREES WHO KNOW HOW TO DO AN AUDIT?
TOGEATHER WE CAN
4/07/2008 11:32:00 PM
I am not in CAPS but I sure hope one thing. That the bad grammar and spelling problems you have in there are a joke.
I sure hope your parents didn't spend all their money on college.
How did Belushi say it in Animal House 5 years down the drain. Nevermind you probably weren't born yet.
Why does the 1st Deputy Jimmy Jackson have a Detective working for him answering phones. The Det. T.W. and him are tight that's why, they either went to school together or to through the academy.
Oh my bad I forgot he isn't a real Det. he was given that title after they gave all the diaper dicks the title of Detective. I guess that is why he is hiding inside because he never worked a case.
TO: 4/08/2008 12:34:00 AM.
Sounds like someone woke up on the wrong side of the rock this morning.
J-Fed , if you read this blog I have a suggestion on how to get more hard-working cops back on the street.
Find out how many cops are at call-back -look at their beefs-give them their spank, and let them get back on the streets, since many of them are the very same cops that know how to make a difference. Some guys have been there for months, years, even..
When you read the beefs, please have an empty stomach, because many of them have been investigated so badly, you might lose your meal if you read them on a full stomach!
I know you cant do anything about the bad investigation-but you sure could disagree with the time that they want to dish out.
Just a thought boss...
I saw the Stream.Video today on the National Memorial narrated at the end by J-Fed. Probably one of the better if not most meaningful videos I've seen in 10 years. About time...
4/07/2008 11:42:00 PM
Yea, im sure it made J-Fraud weep before he bypassed our union contract by charging Cozzi with a civil rights violation and handing out a 90 day suspension to a P.O. for a minor violation.
The department cannot move the District Desk officers on bid.
Section 23.9 of the contract.
While the department can detail any "bid" officer anywhere they want for 3 months on a "temporary unit duty assignment." The dept. can't then fill that vacated bid spot.
Everyone else on the desk is screwed.
anonymous said...
I saw the Stream.Video today on the National Memorial narrated at the end by J-Fed. Probably one of the better if not most meaningful videos I've seen in 10 years. About time...
4/07/2008 11:42:00 PM
Yeah, it's awesome... but it's NOT J-Fed's doing.....
just an idea: have the Dept. do a complete personnel audit, top to bottom, every unit, district, office, etc. (no exceptions); count every "body" where they actually are (not detailed from/to); then identify everyone's actual assignment (no b.s.); then make it public....
somebody ought to audit bomb and arson it is like a mash unit
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic, but any word on the car chase from 001 to 004? Started by a boss, terminated by a boss and continued by same boss? ending in a crash.
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Nobody answer this fool..
How about the 245 PO's assigned to "Area teams" doing the same thing tact teams do. How about all of the "06" cars and the curfew cars and how about the 009th District "dignitary" car that checks on Daleys house all night?
Let's not be to quick to push for a return of the school unit, the districts are stretched to far already. A better idea is to put more coppers back in the districts, on the watches. A 9 to 5 power watch is the best option, with three or four 10-4 units each day. School dismissal and change time between days and afternoons over laps which adds to the violence problem.
As for the school unit, we still have coppers in all the schools; the old unit had cars on the streets too but they just did transports. They didn't do any police work to speak of...
Props to the coppers working Hirsch High..Two years ago this school was nothing short of a zoo. You two and the new Principal have banned together to arrest over 300 and expel over a hundred. Vehicle Traffic can actually keep moving at 79th and Cottage, during dismissal, thanks to you guys..Great Job, keep up the great work...Supt, if you're reading, these guys have set a new model of how to handle the schools.
"How about the detective division.?"
While you may not believe it, there is more to do there than you may think.
For all of you in patrol that think the D units do nothing, did you ever stop to wonder what happens to that case report that you drop in the basket on the desk and forget about? Where does it go???
Answer: It ends up in a D-unit. And something has to be done on every one. Some are closed out by the admin sgt, some by CMO. Most go to a field detective. Ask an RBT det how many cases a day he gets...
And for the Domestic Violence: Heaven help you if you cut a few corners and the mope comes back and is let in again for the 47th time and causes bad headlines. It WILL be YOUR fault.
Even tho this department is said to be modernized and streamlined, much of the paper flow is still old style. A lot of it does have to be done. Some of it does not NEED to be. Much of it could and should be streamlined and automated
No doubt there is bureaucratic fat in the department. Do the D-s need a CAPS section? How about Preventative Programs? Senior citizens unit? But these units all have constituencies, both inside and outside the department. Cutting them could cause a political firestorm.
IF Jody really had some......
"Use reverse seniority and detail detectives back to patrol for ninety days at a time until we hire more people on the street. 4/08/2008 12:34:00 AM"
Idiot. We don't have all the dicks and sgt's you think we have.
Take a look at an Area's list of "detailed" personnel. We're lucky if we have one sgt. some days and a handful of dicks.
Detectives answer phones so they can explain how to do things to your dumb as when you call every 5 minutes.
"What should I classify this as?" "Well, my sgt. told me to do it this way."
Figure it out and stop bitching about shit you have no knowledge of, 2 year wonder.
How about hiring more people. I don't care about people having nice jobs while I'm in a beat car. I prefer to be in a district on a watch. Why don't they just hire more people like they did years ago.
12:34, what Area are you referring to? I have to switch Areas....Usually we have to pull teeth to get a (count it, a meaning 1)desk person (on every side) Each section has 5 bell and 3 pax. You come upstairs and answer the phones for a night and tell me we couldn't use more than one person. (Like I said, we only have one plus the Sergeant working and it is usually pretty busy although we do have our moments to get our work done.) Not sure where you work, but they pulled all patrolman from the Areas about 2 years ago. I wish we had them back. We need a radio person/front desk person. As far as Sergeants? We are short everywhere, including the D-unit. The reason there is only one or two sergeants on midnights is because there are only about 7 or 8 detectives working midnights every night. If there were 40 like on 2nd or 3rd, you would need more. Someone has to approve all of the reports, reassign shit, do the MINS, logs, notifications, etc... and supervise police shootings and murders....
As far as going back to patrol, only for special. They should re-start Tara or let us work our days off for OT. Other than that you sound like someone who should spend more time studying for the next test and less time worrying about other people's assignments...
How about the detective division.
Two or three police officers assigned to each area as administrative staff?
P/os assigned to fugitive apprehension, cold case, unit 601 and 606.
How about the light duty detective spots wouldn't these people be an asset to call back, since they can not work the street?
Why does each unit need two field detectives to answer the phones for violent, two for robbery and two for youth on the second and third watch. Six people doing a job two desk people in a district would handle. In the district two desk people and a sergeant. In the detective unit six to nine dicks to answer the phone with six to nine Sgts working.
Why do they have three Sgts working youth, three violent, and three robbery Sgts some days all at the same time including a summary sergeant and mission team sergeant?
District supervisory personnel are denied time due because of no Sgts, but on the second and third watches most detective units have six to nine supervisors available.
How do the dicks get away with only one or two Sgts on midnights and on some nights work with only one supervisor?
How do they do that on the first watch, when all the other sgts work the second and third watch?
Why do they need two Area gun team sgts, and a Area mission team sgt.
Those units should report to the watch commander and be placed on a sector sgts log.
How many sgts are hidden in narcotics.
Go after the specialized units who have people hidden away if you want supervisors and bodies.
Use reverse seniority and detail detectives back to patrol for ninety days at a time until we hire more people on the street.
ITS GOING TO BE A GREAT SUMMER .
Quit your crying ! Respond to your domestic calls and pass a test!
Off topic, but any word on the car chase from 001 to 004? Started by a boss, terminated by a boss and continued by same boss? ending in a crash.
4/07/2008 11:21:00 PM
Get a life you rat.
P/os assigned to fugitive apprehension, cold case, unit 601 and 606.
**DNA Unit
Anonymous said...
Why does the 1st Deputy Jimmy Jackson have a Detective working for him answering phones. The Det. T.W. and him are tight that's why, they either went to school together or to through the academy.
Oh my bad I forgot he isn't a real Det. he was given that title after they gave all the diaper dicks the title of Detective. I guess that is why he is hiding inside because he never worked a case.
4/08/2008 09:31:00 AM
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Don't know the man or why you hate him but there sure are a lot more Officers hiding inside who never made an arrest.
J-Fed does not know what he is doing period. He is just starting his third month on the job and if he appears to need an FTO to help him understand the streets. I would like to believe that he is an intelligent person but honestly he has yet to display this. We would all be better off if Weis gets moved to some other City job he can handle. How about a lateral move and let him be Superintendent of Streets & Sanitation. Same job description (clean up and remove trash from the City). Jody can even wear a uniform if he wants and even bring his friend Brust along as his Deputy. They can also drive one of those really cool City SUV's around every day. We have so many intelligent people on this job who would make a great Superintendent. Mayor you can even reduce the salary back down to 170 thousand or so where it belongs.
Anonymous said...
WTF!!!!!!
WHY CAN'T THE "SUPT" HAVE SOME BALLS TO TELL SGT'S AND P. O. 'S THAT ARE NOT LIGHT DUTY TO GET OFF THERE ASS AND HIT THE STREET. ONCE AGAIN, WALK AROUND 35TH STREET AND YOU'LL SEE THESE POEPLE DUCKING AND HIDING BEHIND THE GREAT WALLS (CUBICLES). IT'S TIME TO GET PAYED FOR WHAT YOU SIGNED UP FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OR
DOES BEING ASSIGNED TO "HQ" PROTECT YOU FROM THE SUPT'S MIGHTY SWORD?
Look at PO's that still have cars assigned to them. Why? Po's job description sounds good on paper but are they actually performing necessary work? Look at Po's that are drivers and gofers at 35th street. Some PO's can justify their existence others are useless except to drive around white shirts.
"Anonymous said...
Why does the 1st Deputy Jimmy Jackson have a Detective working for him answering phones. The Det. T.W. and him are tight that's why, they either went to school together or to through the academy.
Oh my bad I forgot he isn't a real Det. he was given that title after they gave all the diaper dicks the title of Detective. I guess that is why he is hiding inside because he never worked a case.
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Oh that's right hotshot, sexual and physical abuse of children are not real cases. Get your punk ass head out of your ass meatball!
Try getting a household member to admit shaking a baby or poisoning them or sexual abusing them, but in your little fantasy world a residential burglary constitutes more of a real case.
Try putting together a case without the statement of a victim in the case of infants. Instead you have to rely on doctor interviews, the scene, evidence (Oh MY), polygraph examinations, and other investigative things REAL Detectives do.
Oh and that's right we also do extraditions, when was the last time RBT did an extradition?
Blow me! I earned that title and either way I can put together a case.
But hey, what do diaper dicks do, they just process right?
You are stupid! Real Detective My Ass!
How about all of the "06" cars and the curfew cars and how about the 009th District "dignitary" car that checks on Daleys house all night?
4/08/2008 12:25:00 PM
Just to let you know, Daley hasn't lived in 09 for years. He moved out even before OL Lady Daley died. Aldercreatures and Judges are the only ones left on the dignatery list.
If you have a a detective on the desk at $80,000 plus, it would be more cost efficient to have TWO civilians doing that job at $40,000 each, without all the furloughs, baby furloughs, time due, overtime, etc. But, then again, all the house cats would actually have to do the job they were sworn in to do..
4/08/2008 08:59:00 AM
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The problem is they wouldn't know the answer to any of the questions asked.
What do I have here?
What should I charge him with?
What report do I fill out?
Does a detective come out on this?
Anyway, what the hell happens to detectives planning to retire in two years? Do they do robbery or homicide investigations that will come to court in four years, so they can sit there for free?
PPO, its easy for you and J-Fed to stick old-timers on the street because neither of you can think past the nose on your face and neither of you has a clue about police work.
There is a difference though. J-Fed is gone in 3 years. You'll be here for 29 more. And when your right at the end, there will be another whipper snapper calling to put you back on the street.
Anonymous said...
How about the 245 PO's assigned to "Area teams" doing the same thing tact teams do. How about all of the "06" cars and the curfew cars and how about the 009th District "dignitary" car that checks on Daleys house all night?
4/08/2008 12:25:00 PM
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How about J-Fed look into all the 3yrs and less on this job that are in inside units.
All the females over at Forensic Services, the 1 yr wonder in the 1st Deputy's office, or the 2yr one over at the academy.
All full duty.
No time on the street!
Hey J fed. Why is it that you won't shake the hand of a PO? Is it because your hand is Dirty from city hall? Or is it that you are so excited when you put on a REAL POLICE uniform that your hand is sticky? Tell us as inquiring minds want to know.
Complete an aduit of PO's that hold civilian positions in department. You would be surprised.
No I really wouldn't. It's been like that for YEARS. Why is it allowed to continue? Because that is the way someone wants it. Clout needs their spots. Just ask the district managers. One said "I interviewed for this position" Only thing was, no one had the balls to tell him/her "You were the only one who was scheduled here for an interview"......And the beat goes on.....
Fool! C'mon who is advising this guy? Why does he shoot his mouth off without knowing what is in our contract???? Isn't that why someone in his immediate staff making 130K++ a year supposed to be doing???
Read todays Sun-Times. Pat Daley to take a higher (whatever that means) spot to advise J-Fed. So much for the 1st Dep. spot.
????????????????????????????????
Who is this guy? Is he a civilian? Is he a relative of Daleyland?
Maybe the stupid person that doesn't like a P.O and A CIVILIAN TIMEKEEPER would like their time screwed up by a civilian that doesn't have a clue. Listen most of them don't. Your just a crybaby cause you don't work inside. I hope your time gets jacked up
How about all the light duty or convalescent duty people who really aren't, or maybe b.s iod's and medicals comeback to work that might put more police on the street
4/08/2008 09:31:00 AM
That crack of "diaper dick" is only one of many reasons why the morale on this department sucks. It's bad enough we get shit from the Rev's, the politicians, the citizens and a shit load of our bosses, then people like you talk shit like that.
"Diaper Dick" is a job that needs to be done. From the new PPO to the most KMA boss, all of us are doing a job that needs to be done. Maybe you're jealous you were never a Youth Officer? Or are you one of those few (thankfully) Detectives who think you walk on water?
Tell you what, none of us walk on water, and you can go fuck yourself.
"Use reverse seniority and detail detectives back to patrol for ninety days at a time until we hire more people on the street."
Sounds Good, by the time they get to me I'll have been retired for 5years. Should the Dets that are detailed out handle their cases between the dummy service calls or do we just suspend them all?
How about they stop making Dummy exempt positions @ a 100G crack& hiring retirees back as "consultants". There will be more than enough money for new hires. Nice try, but your idea is flawed. Look @ the Bigger picture next time.
lets see where else I can hide? (desk guy)..I dont care where you put me ..answer calls, back up my fellow officers, write reports...blinders to the BS 1 16 7th and see ya!! .."wahhh do some work..lazy"...want my spot in 011? and my seniority FNG? pay your dues..come see me anytime, I'll explain things to ya..HUGE HOUSE MOUSE IN 011.AKA: empty holster,but warm,dry, well fed, and smiling all the time..LIFMFL!
Read todays Sun-Times. Pat Daley to take a higher (whatever that means) spot to advise J-Fed. So much for the 1st Dep. spot.
4/08/2008 08:46:00 AM
AH HA what a tangled web napoleon weaves, guess what? Daley now has an advisor to monitor jfed u just cant give this idiot $300 grand a year to make idiotic decisions, word is getting back to short one (daley not jfed) "hey asshole people are getting killed in my city what the fuck are you doin about it". Hey jedi we havent even reached a 70 degree day yet...this is just the beginining.
Oh sorry, this must be the thread where all the crybabies come to rat out everyone they think has it better.
What does a patrolman with 5 years on make these days...somewhere around $65,000+ before overtime, uniform, duty availability? Basically unlimited sick days? Personal days, BFD's and fulrough...yeah, I'm feeling real sorry for you...keep crying that you are actually expected to do SOMETHING for that kind of money! I hate Daley but I agree with him on one thing: go find a better job if you aren't happy with this one!
a question: does "da mare" now think, or does he already know, or is he about to know, that he made a BIG mistake bringing in j-fed? and, if so, how to rectify it now?
I don't mind being called a diaper dick. I knew it was never because of the youth jobs i did. No, it was from the district guys crying " waaaaaa, where is the youth officer!!!" The kids I dealt with were much more mature then they were.
Hey J-Fed; are you really, truely concerned about the police. Will I see your face in Springfield and then in Washington? Will I even see your face at the St. Jude Parade?
J-Fed. Are you ever going to address the 3,000 some officers we're short or did Daley threatend to bitch slap you if you ever bring it up?
J-Fed. Are you ever in your long list of stupid ideas going to address a real problem with our NO CONTACT status again?
J-Fed. Go sit in court at branch court felony and misdemeanor and then go sit at 26th and cal in the visitor seats. watch all the prelims and trials and you'll see where most of the trouble in Chicago lies when it comes to crime. Crook county slaps everybody on the hands, throws out and find no pc for no reason, ridiculously reduces sentences and drops the enhances and refuses to violate offenders on parole and probation time and time again. That's where a big prolem exists. We're sending the wrong msg out to criminals. The write msg is "do the crime, do the time" on that note the average criminal won't want to go back and he'll think twice before going back to a life of crime.
I have to say this because it's true. We need coppers in many of these spots because anytime we start putting civilians into some of these spots they screw things up. This has been historically true. Just look at how screwed up fleet management is now that it's civilianized, dispatchers now compared to when, district managers (what really is their function), and does anyone remember the useless bunch we had as police aids in the districts?.. And none of them recognize the rank structure in this department and basically run a muck. So again, be careful what you wish for.
Anonymous said...
somebody ought to audit bomb and arson it is like a mash unit
4/08/2008 11:34:00 AM
Roland, get a life NOW!
Fun Fact for all:
At the last F.O.P. meeting inquiries were made to the recent enforcement of the "intoxication rule" off-duty by police officers, the F.O.P responded that the city has related to them that they will consider anything over .04BAC intoxication, but of course the city refuses to put this in writing or define intoxication in the general order. Therefore, the F.O.P's recommendation is dont drink. Im really glad I pay my dues...... Oh yeah, dont matter if you are on public or private (i.e. your residence) property, the city can enforce it.
I WAS AT HQ TODAY , NOTICED A COUPLE OF FLYERS ON SOME DOORS FOR , GET THIS..... A SALAD DAY. LOL.
(I KNOW , I'M WRITING IN CAPS) I GUESS THE 1ST DEPUTY IS REALLY KISSING JFED'S ASS BY HAVING A SALAD DAY ON APRIL 10TH AT HQ. THE FLYER SAID SOMETHING ABOUT HAVING A SALAD PREPARED FOR YOU WITH YOUR CHOICE OF DRESSING. AND OF COURSE ,THIS WASN'T LISTED BUT WE ALL KNOW THE 1ST DEPUTY IS GOING TO BE TOSSING JFED'S SALAD PERSONALLY ! LOL
How about all of the "06" cars and the curfew cars and how about the 009th District "dignitary" car that checks on Daleys house all night?
4/08/2008 12:25:00 PM
Just to let you know, Daley hasn't lived in 09 for years. He moved out even before OL Lady Daley died. Aldercreatures and Judges are the only ones left on the dignatery list.
4/08/2008 08:04:00 PM
WRONG!!!
John Daley still lives on Lowe south of the station. Both his home and his insurance brokerage (on Halsted) are on the "dignitary list" along with a few judges, aviation people, alderman and their offices
Maybe get the fake medicals and IOD's back to work...we dont need more useless P/O's on the street...just more responsible parents teaching their kids not to kill and join gangs....we spend our tax monies for public schools and only 51% of them graduate a year. Again parents. They want more money to teach kids what bad is,, my daddy taught me why cant theirs
Sounds Good, by the time they get to me I'll have been retired for 5years. Should the Dets that are detailed out handle their cases between the dummy service calls or do we just suspend them all?
You suspend most of them anyway so what's the difference, sorry you feel you are now too good to answer dummy service calls. What a douche.
There were many civilians in every district and every area. They did the crap work of filing, xeroxing, data entry, time keeping, answering phones.
I think it was 12 or 13 years ago when mayor shitforbrains abolished all of the civilian positions. I know we went from 7 civilians to 1 overnight. But the work was still there and somebody had to do it.
lets see where else I can hide? (desk guy)..I dont care where you put me ..answer calls, back up my fellow officers, write reports...blinders to the BS 1 16 7th and see ya!! .."wahhh do some work..lazy"...want my spot in 011? and my seniority FNG? pay your dues..come see me anytime, I'll explain things to ya..HUGE HOUSE MOUSE IN 011.AKA: empty holster,but warm,dry, well fed, and smiling all the time..LIFMFL!
4/08/2008 10:38:00 PM
Sign your name you old fucking pussy. I don't want your spot or your senoirity you fucking stroke. I'm glad you paid your dues. Good for you, nobody fucking cares that you work in 011. You paid all these dues and all you got is an inside spot in 011. You must have the personality of a steaming pile of dog shit. Guess what while you paid your dues, some broad who was getting gang banged by the Brother Rice football team class of '96 has got better spot than you. YOU OLD FUCKING CHUMP
The Keesing Bandit says---
Where can I get some of that tossed salad?
Now, kees me you fool!!!
GET A COPY OF THE GENERAL ORDERS, SPECIAL ORDERS, DEPARTMENT NOTICES ETC, AND READ THEM!!!
if you would have gone to the academy you would know these things
4/08/2008 08:46:00 AM said,
"Read todays Sun-Times. Pat Daley to take a higher (whatever that means) spot to advise J-Fed. So much for the 1st Dep. spot."
Would you please furnish the link to the story? I looked and looked, but cannot find the article. Thanks.
Maybe get the fake medicals and IOD's back to work
**This is what they need to do. So many "light duty" spots until wow... they get an FTO spot or a Sgt spot, then miraculously they are all better or better yet, when it comes to working side jobs they can manage that but can't work the streets. Some people have been sitting on their asses their whole career light duty.
The medical section is useless and IAD should be watching those folks.
PPO, its easy for you and J-Fed to stick old-timers on the street because neither of you can think past the nose on your face and neither of you has a clue about police work.
There is a difference though. J-Fed is gone in 3 years. You'll be here for 29 more. And when your right at the end, there will be another whipper snapper calling to put you back on the street.
4/08/2008 08:31:00 PM
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Before you get all defensive, I am not a PPO and could be considered an oldtimer. All I was saying is that there are plenty of young, able bodied, males and females, for some reason or another (clout maybe)are working the desk that shouldn't be...Hell, if you are an old-timer and ready to retire in a couple of years, I think you deserve the desk, you have earned it... But when I say they should get civilians, I meant for non-police duties, i.e., secretaries, time keepers, etc. How about all the woman coppers who are on call-back because they are pregnant every other year...must be nice to collect a nice check, uniform, shift, etc. and never have to do anything of importance. (BEfore anyone has a tantrum..I am a woman)..It's a joke. Of the 9,000+ cops on the department, how many do you think are on call back and medical at a given time?
if they do that to patrolmen, why not put the 5-9 et's that are being used for go-for's in 177 back on the street to cut the backlog down
10:38..lets leave your mom out of this.. TB (know me now?)
I saw the Stream.Video today on the National Memorial narrated at the end by J-Fed. Probably one of the better if not most meaningful videos I've seen in 10 years. About time...
4/07/2008 11:42:00 PM
The unit that does the streaming videos have a bunch of new people there who actually know how to make videos. They are p.o.'s that graduated from Columbia college.
Good job guys.
I beg to differ about the comment "school cars didn't do any police work to speak of" You do not know what the hell you're talking about. Who do you think monitored the trouble spots around the schools? Who do you think did the stops on the bangers bringing weapons, dope whatever.It's gone now, but Phil disbanding the unit to punish Dorothy Griffin for her grievance was a stupid thing to do, male ego or not.
What do you care about who JJ has answering phones and driving him around? The last Supt. had his driver made a SGT. and then brought him back as his SGT. DRIVER! Not much was said about that. And let's not forget Gang Specialist Illiterate who was made
a) a Cmdr.
b) a Deputy Chief
All that, with no HS diploma or college! And then brought back as a civilian "wire room supervisor" at a six figure salary after he was forced out at age 63.
Spare me your bs. If the 1st Deputy wants a detective to answer his phones and be his driver, it's not a big deal. And for the record, Teddy was the real police for many years. Do your homework before you come on the blog and blast a guy you know nothing about.
He and Jackson have more experience being the real police than you will ever know.
How about J-Fed look into all the 3yrs and less on this job that are in inside units.
All the females over at Forensic Services, the 1 yr wonder in the 1st Deputy's office, or the 2yr one over at the academy.
All full duty.
No time on the street!
4/08/2008 08:46:00 PM
Those that can't do - teach... As it always has been and will be.
Amen
The civilians should stay out of the police dept They steal social security numbers pers info. I've been a victim. So watch what you wish for you might be next. Your turn will come to work inside if they keep civilians out. But I do agree you should have 15yrs or more to work inside
Don't know the man or why you hate him but there sure are a lot more Officers hiding inside who never made an arrest.
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Way too many do-nothings in the D-unit and that's the Sgt's fault for not reviewing their caseload and inquiring about what the fuck they are doing or not doing all day long. I have a guy in my unit that screws around on the computer all day doing nothing, the Sgts know this guy hasn't arrested anyone on his own for over 2 years and he's still there wasting space. Put the blame on management for not kicking his ass out back to the area. No accountability with management and just plain laziness with the dic and he knows he's getting away with it.
I was at midway last night picking up my son, and this female white copper started going on and on about light duty working at the airport al she did was bitch if she hates the job that much she needs to leave is this the one getting dics pay but working as a patrolman same duties just more pay?
U r all bitching about the PO's working inside!
"Should be outside working & hire civilians to do the work"
WELL LET ME TELL YOU ALL THIS...Civilians work handling our personal private info, MOST of who HATE the fucking POooolice & will tell you to your face! We have unlisted info for a reason, WAKE-UP people...this info is "public" w/these civilians & to whoever they give it to.
I say keep the limited-duty POs for the inside jobs,let the oldtimers who fucking earned their stars inside too.
The city should do 20yrs & 75-80% no age requirement & then Daley/Weiss will have their young-fit department.
AMEN!
ignorance is bliss. If you dont know what you're talking about, just shut up.
You need two timekeepers, do you even have the slightest idea of what a timekeeper does?
Why does the D-Unit have people in each oversight office to answer the phone, D'uh, same reason that tact, Caps and the Commanders staff office has their own line
Using P/Os in D-Unit and other specialized units is cheaper than using Detectives or other specially trained personnel to do paper work.
Caps Lt . . . yeah thats a worthless spot.
If you want bodies get rid of the tru unit,mission teams,gun teams and what ever other do noting units that are out there. Cut narc in half.And look at all the 5 years or less wonders in these units. What a bunch of B.s. while the beat officers are getting beat to death with jobs
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