Everything Old is New Again
- Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis has ordered his 25 district commanders to hit the streets on Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights --and he plans to use helicopter patrols on weekends -- to curb an outbreak of violence targeting young and old.
- Weis believes that his new team of district commanders need to get their fingers on the pulse of their communities, and the best way to do that is to be on the streets between 8 p.m. and 4 a.m. on weekends, when most of the gang-related crime occurs.
- For years, all exempt-rank officers have been asked to give up their Friday nights. Now, district commanders are also being asked to do the same on Saturday and Sunday nights, following Weis' lead.
This was a either a Cline or a Hillard idea a few years back, but it was only for Fridays. Even they recognized that bosses liked to be off weekends. We guess that once again, a perk (commander) becomes a liability (no weekends off ever again).
Someone remind us never to ask for a Commander spot. It just isn't worth the hassle anymore.
Someone remind us never to ask for a Commander spot. It just isn't worth the hassle anymore.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
145 Comments:
I remember commanders having to work at least 3 hours on either a Friday or Saturday night back in '90.
So for the extra dough and take home car, you forfeit any semblance of a family life. Is it worth it?
can the guy who listed the Sect 8 addys post a link for us? thanks.
I feel so inspired, I'm going to write some contact cards and maybe a couple of curfews.
LOL LOL LOL
I remember when if you needed a Commander on a weekend.... You would call the tavern....
TOO FUNNY!
And I as a P.O. have a Sat/Sun day off group!
Now Springield must repeal the "gold braid" legislation in which these scoundrels are draining our pension coffers.
Someone remind us never to ask for a Commander spot. It just isn't worth the hassle anymore.
This JOB isn't worth it anymore.
BOO-HOO Am i supposed to feel bad? Seriously....I remember there was a time not to long ago that I had my DOG changed everytime my weekends came up....for a year!!!!
If its good enough for the Tact/Gang teams, the Commanders, it shuld be good enough for the Supt. too! Hope to see him out in 004/005/006/007/011/015 from 20:00 to 04:00!
Holy 24/7/365 Batman!!!
The job of a commander is worth about $2.50 an hour. Except for leap year.
Deja vue all over again. Exempts working weekends goes a bit further back than Hillard. In the mid 70's, Superintendent Rochford mandated that ALL the exempts, even the HQ exempts, had to work something similar in patrol on the weekends. Remember, there were no civilian exempts back then either, and there were a heck of a lot more exempt spots than there are now. The exempts hated it, but at least they had a little closer look at patrol and a weekly reminder of the bullshit we put up with on the street. The ones that just observed us on a call and didn't take over, were okay, but there were a few that as soon as they arrived on the scene, things had to go their way. Barking orders and acting like jags. That sucked.
i think j-fed overestimates our commitment to the city of chicago.
we, the police, cannot underestimate the city's commitment to us.
Holy Strategic Deployment Batman!!!
Helicopters will differently reduce gang violence. Commanders too...
Why didn't I think of it first?
Never went to management class at Jerry Lewis University.
I can see that Weis is using that Chemistry degree to good use now. Making all kinds of concoctions.
It doesnt matter to me who is out there. I will only answer my calls and thats it.
MAY BE THOSE BACK STABBING COMMANDER WILL JOIN US IN R CONTRACT TALKS. INSTEAD OF BACKING THE MAYORS PLAY WITH GENERATING NO REVENUE... HINT HINT
NO BOSS EVERYONE HAD A SEAT BELT ON
NO BOSS KNOW ONE DOUBLE PARKS ON MY BEAT
NO BOSS THE ALARM WENT OFF FOR A GOOD REASON
THE GOLD STAR LOVE R BENEFITS BUT HATE HAVING TO MAKE ANY SACRIFICES.
Ohhhh, Im so glad I'm a blue shirt! Work a decent shift, hand my agg batt or homicide paperwork to a detective and.... go home on time!
In the 1980's, many Commanders worked both Sat/Sun!
Well that is what they told their wives as they were up in their summer homes in Michigan and Wisconsin with their female drivers.
We don't have district commanders anymore. Most are little bitch boys or girls for the higher ups. In the old days your were lucky to find a DC on a weekday let alone on any weekend. God forbid a cop got shot, we had to search the taverns and bars for most bosses.
I couldn't imagine telling some of the old DC I have worked for, many who had 35 or 40 years in the job that they had to be on the streets on weekend NIGHTS. They would tell them to F*&K OFF!
The quest for the power and the Gold Badge! Give up weekends now, every family function is disturbed with blackberry non-sense messages and woke up on any given night to be told mookie and pookie got shot!
Keep your gold badge!
ohhh i forgot
HEY J-FED HAVE YOUR BOSSES FILL OUT A LOG AND SEE WHAT THEY DID FOR 8 HOURS.
WATCH AS THEY NEED A DRIVER AND CANT WORK THE STREETS BY THEMSELVES B CUZ THEY R SCARED.
HEY CUELLO WHAT R THE NUMBERS FOR ALL THOSE DESK DOLLIES.
I BET YOU CAN COUNT ALL THEIR ARREST ON ONE HAND.
JUST ANOTHER VERSION OF GHOST PAY ROLL STICK AN OFFICER IN A CAR WHO TAKES NO CALLS, RIGHT NO TICKETS, AND
STAYS VERY QUIET THE WHOLE TIME IN THE STREETS.
JUST ASK YOURSELF WHERE IS MY BACK UP OOOPS THEY FORGOT TO LOG ON AND LEFT THEIR RADIO IN THE TRUNK...
I used to hear from my old man that the commander was the best spot back in the day. He would never see his and yet shit got done. Now you have to work 7 days a week? Why? Doesn't being that high in command give you (the commander) the right to delegate responsibilities? This type of schedule also enforces the whole micromanaging style that is a huge root to all of the low morale in this department. J-FED is losing it already and he hasn't been here for 3 months yet!
Makes a lot of sense if you do not have a family and kids like J-Fed. He is able to live this 24/7 since he was never the police. Bosses you just got J-Fucked!
if the commander has my back we will go forth into battle together and will be bloodied together. and then we will get stripped together and lose our jobs together. commanders working 8p-4a-- all weekend-- no chance-- to the poor soul up there in the ghetto bird-- is your life insurance paid up.
I think even District Commanders will be scratching their heads over this. Here JFED is asking them to give up their weekends and their weekdays. Here is a guy thats making $170,000 more than them and who more than likely will not be giving up his weekends. He's relly looking for a revolt on all levels of the department. Heard a rumor that at St Jude instead of a salute for JFED because you know the mayo wont be there a middle finger salute is in order........
The mayor looks like he is in the "TEMPLE OF DOOM" with that guffy hat.
Well it looks like the inmates are realy running things now. J-FED couldn't come up with anything new if he tryed, He will do as all the others do, who no nothing, rob others ideas and claim them as something new and as his own.
Hey I think J-Fed got the idea from the movie "SOMETHING ABOUT MARY". When that killer said "He has a tape called 6min abs" and Mr. pork and Beans said "why not 5min abs". Cline said "one day for commanders". J-Fed wants 3 days for commanders to work nights. Wow new idea J-Fed. You ever heard of the word plagiarism.
Off topic: D.B.(007) is one of the best officers out there. It is a shame he lost his temper, I would like to know why his partner did not step in and try to stop him for his own good. Who could blame a guy for getting a little nuts when he goes home and sees his wife in his house with another man. He was not some kind of nut he just caught his wife with another man.
What we need is to have roll call start at exactly on the hour, followed by a steaming video of what we cannot do. then we should should all talk about our feelings, and then have a group hug and sing "cumbuyah" before we hit the streets.
Next they are going to say everything is going as planed with the new command changes.
50 officers at 35th, I'm sorry but if they come from behind the desk over there, they haven't seen a case report in a long time, let alone fill one out. Tell them about doing arrests on computers, they probable haven't loged on to a computer in about 5 yrs. Alots changed in policing while they have been hidden by past bosses.
HERES A NEW IDEA: Maybe J-Fed can send P.O.'s from the DOC out to the street so they can get a firt hand look on whats realy going on.
How long is it going to take for J-FED to get more P.O.'s out into the Districts? Is he going to except is under-links taking their time seeing were they can take P.O.'s from? Maybe they will start a phantom group of 50 P.O.'s and when someone asks were are they? They can play the shell game, there some where eles.
OEMC/911 is sending more jobs to call back in responce to the P/O shortage. It's in their C.O. Book and for the call takers to send more paper jobs to ARP.
What ever happened to the Beat copper knowing what's going on, on his Beat, or will call back know more about the Beat than the Beat copper.
The command staff at CPD should watch the movie "We Were Soldiers". You don't send the command staff to do the street officers job. Exempts jobs are, to come up with ideas and plans of attack for manpower, not ride around with us answering calls on weekends because we are short. What are the Watch Commanders going to do on weekends? They are not needed because a gold star will be over rideing them, more mismanagement.
I'll give them a new idea!
Lets try getting some day labor to fill the manpower shortage. We can pick them up in our marked CPD vans and drop them of at fixed posts in the areas no one wants to work. This sounds like an American dream come true.
What is the FOP doing with us being short. How about minum maning like CFD has in their contract.
Who needs a W.C. when you have a gold star on Fri, Sat and Sun. Why don' we send the W.C. to community meetings on the 2nd Watch on the above listed days.
NUTS!!!!!!!!!
This Dept is nothing but an exercise in stress management.
I think if morale gets any lower there should be a no-confidence vote.
The Commanders already know the pulse of their districts. That's why they're not around on friday,saturday and sunday nights.
I'm glad I turned down the commander position. As a p/o, I keep my M-F day spot. I'll be thinking of the new commanders at 2 a.m. when I get up to take a piss and then go back to bed.
Okay, for the record...
Unlike the new Supt.s wish, 'cuz we don't have endless sources of money like the Fed's,the following will not happen:
All new, same guns
New Uniforms
New SUV - maybe a few Swat, etc.
Helicopter - give it 1 month -BYE
Fitness Standard
This guy likes cats, so now we all have to be cat owners? WTF is going on.
If I don't like spinach, J Fed can't make me eat it. He's a freaky looking creature. Maybe he shoulda had some kids to inspire his life.
New Ideas how about this. ALL exempt including you J Fed and your FBI Team of know nothings. WORK the weekends during those hours. 8-4 Thats right report to Dist. 5,6,7,9,11,15 at 8:00 PM in uniform ready to go. Work as the second officer in a piece of shit beat car, on an understaffed watch with PDT's that dont work, and answer calls. Take in domestics, stop little jag offs on the street and get verbally abused. talk to ass holes and get lied to. Dont forget J- Fed cant lock them up anymore for lying to a Federal Agent. Try finding a decent place to have lunch at 2:00 AM when it slows down slightly and maybe you can get some greasy Harlolds chicken cause thats the only thing open. Do this for a few years and MAYBE the men and women who do it every day not just on the weekends will get to thinking you understand their plight. Oh Yeah in the morning dont forget to get up, go to court and then you can work out to stay in shape. Now remember no riding around looking at real police officers doing their jobs. YOU and your crew have to be the second officer on the car( SORRY REAL POLICE PARTNERS) answering the radio and going on jobs. No riding with supervisors listening to their crap. Ride with the real people who do the real work and then see if you still like the Dwarf on the 5th floor.
I started that crap almost 17 years ago in 025. Anyone remember
my "fight nights"; my coming in half-tanked on fridays and responding to calls? I raised hell w/da troops and even caused a coronary or two. And a W/C put it in his will for me not to come to his wake(da hah hah)..
I was way ahead of my time!!
(hey gallows, kiss my ass)
I earned my rank and deserve to drive my city owned car with city gas on saturday night to take out my girlfriend while my wife stays home wit the kids. I booze it up at some swanky joint and get a little num num later. Why should I have to baby sit some snot nose no clout hair gel fools that think this is a real job?Come on Baby get a life!!!
Is there a DEt's class being made soon?????????????????????
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, I FEEL SOOO BAD FOR THEM....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!
Remember you are all the same people who critized Cline and said how much better the department would be without him....you got your wish so now deal with it!!!!!
Typical CPD nonsense. Work Harder not Smarter.
D.B.(007) NOW IN A JAM. WAS A GREAT KID WHEN I WAS IN 007. JUST HOPE HE PREVAILS AND MANAGES TO STAY OUT OF DOC. SAO NOW IS INTENT ON NAILING POs FOR ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING. RETIRED FROM 007 A FEW YRS BACK. GOD BLESS THE WONDERFUL YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN OF THE FIGHTING 007TH.
Here's a suggestion, everyone attend St. Jude's march, when passing the reviewing stand DON'T salute the twin feds! Oops, sorry, I meant to say ALL of the feds!
We (the CPD), are operating under a modified consent degree.
Who's this Diane bitch in 023 that thinks she is the DC? maybe she'll be out on the weekends working a car.
Yayyy send all the exempts to 003 and we can all enjoy the summer nights together!!!!
i think j-fed overestimates our commitment to the city of chicago.
we, the police, cannot underestimate the city's commitment to us.
4/03/2008 12:38:00 AM
well said. its only gonna get worse. just remember the more they take and ask of us and we let them the more they will continue. learn from this.
WTF !!!! what...are police with MBA's exempt from midnites????...or do they just think they are ???....Does having an MBA, allow U to NOT chase a robber, car-thief, etc..?? or to roll up on a 10-1 when everything is over, but U were on the "air" as assisting....WTF !!! MAN-UP !!!
who cares? 50 coppers in 25 districts with 3 different watches amounts to NOTHING. And the commanders on the street at 3 am? ooooohhhhhh boy scary. like they are going to lock someone up anyways right? Who gives a fuck, this is all for the media. i said i was willing to give the new guy a couple months to see what he would do and he quite posssibly is the DUMBEST supt ever hired by this incompetent city!
6:49am
Good points made by you; especially
the
"lying to a fed" crap....
However, Im insulted you never mentioned 019 in your combat zone list.
If jody ran around w/me in our projects here; I'd have him on the medical in 4 hours from panic attacks, rapid heartbeat, etc..
DANGERS NO**********************
Is there a DEt's class being made soon?????????????????????
No, Captains next week, then Lts. in a month or so, Sgts in Sept, then maybe dets by the end of the year.
4/03/2008 12:36:00 AMAnonymous said...
Deja vue all over again. Exempts working weekends goes a bit further back than Hillard. In the mid 70's, Superintendent Rochford mandated that ALL the exempts, even the HQ exempts, had to work something similar in patrol on the weekends. Remember, there were no civilian exempts back then either
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As I recall Rochford's program in the early 70's each exempt, up through the Chief rank had to work a 4 hour tour on a weekend, once a month on the 3rd Watch. In addition to working they were also required to dress in a uniform as much like a Patrolman's as possible. There were a lot of leather jackets and blouses being borrowed by them. They were not allowed to wear their exempt hat, but could wear an officers' hat, Capt/Lt. For the most part they were assigned as a second person on a 2 man car. Believe it or not, many of them actually enjoyed in and looked forward to it. I don't remember when it ended. Incidentally, there were civilian exempt at that time, Mitchell Ware was one, and there were one or two others.
First of all, who gives a shit. If they do make a stop a p.o. (who's hands are already full) will have to do the paper for them. Secondly is this really suppose to immpact these clowns that have a beef with someone from last year and are out to shoot somebody during the week. Then finally, I've been on 18 years, locked up all kind of rapist and shooters who are put away for life. Even now I make it my business to keep up with the changes and make arrests. So, whether you believe or not I'm a desk jockey now and proud of it. I've got no interest in going back out to all of the bitching asshats, just do your job.
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7754 W. HIGGINS
7125 W. FOSTER
7202 W. BALMORAL
7873 W. CAHILL TERACE.
7558 W. CATALPA
8718 W. SUMMERDALE
5616 N. CENTRAL
5946 W. GUNNISON
5230 W. MONTROSE
5321 W. FOSTER
5427 W. NORTHWEST HWY.
4047 N. LAVERGNE
4959 W. BELL PLANE
3344 N. NARRAGANSETT
5950 W. ADDISON
4828 W. PATTERSON
4831 W. EDDY
4848 W. WARWICK
5146 W. CORNELIA
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GROUP HOME FOR JUV. IN 016. (West side dogs)
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Wake up people stop protecting the shit heads and bid into 016 and start protecting the home land. Shit heads are everywhere. This summer what till you see who is walking down YOUR block and says” I neighbor”. WAKE THE FUCK UP
4/02/2008 10:45:00 AM
You are 99.9% correct it is 8558 W. CATALPA not 7558 W. CATALPA great info!
j fed has just released a memo regarding donald barrett. officer barrett was just issued a full set of btu's. he will be deployed within the high crime zones. he will not be alone. he will allowed to display an 8"x10" photo of now defunked Lt. jim posted on the dashboard. i guess he can continue to drive uncle bad touch around.
about FUCKING time.......it was OK to have your tact guys work these shit hours and the bosses were at home w/ families......couldn't make me happier..........bought time the bosses did the same hours tact does.......hahahahahahahha
Just wait till the south side Commanders start whining to their Rev's about having to miss Church.
Don't hate Church!
I got 99 problems fo shizzle!!
How's I's spost ta pray ta baby Jebus whens I's gots ta puhtro da streets, yo?
SKOOT!
Any wagers on how long this will last? I say 2 months at the most. Then it will go back to just a Friday or Saturday.
I'm sure that the gang bangers will be switching to rifles and trying to shoot down the Bat copter, and it will be the gun manufacturers fault when it happens.
Does this mean the afternoon watch commander and all the desk people will have to stay past 2000 hrs.?
This idea is not new. Supt. Rochford ordered the D/Cs to work some nights. They ignored him.
I don't know most of the D/Cs but I cannot think of a SINGLE one that I do know that I would want backing me up on the street. Not one. And that's sad.
mmmmmmore gugugun laws for our city!!!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
I earned my rank and deserve to drive my city owned car with city gas on saturday night to take out my girlfriend while my wife stays home wit the kids. I booze it up at some swanky joint and get a little num num later. Why should I have to baby sit some snot nose no clout hair gel fools that think this is a real job?Come on Baby get a life!!!
4/03/2008 07:04:00 AM
I feel sorry for the officers that have given their lives for what they thought were real law enforcement efforts.
Now, even the police memorial and it's fund continues to be a mockery of those that gave their lives for a department that looks to enrich the connected.
"Off topic: D.B.(007) is one of the best officers out there. It is a shame he lost his temper, I would like to know why his partner did not step in and try to stop him for his own good."
What??
Your good Buddy DB thought so highly of his partner he decided to drag him down with him. Yeah real Stand-up Guy.
The kicker his partner will probably get 30 days. DB Needs to be federally indicted & sent to the Fed Pen in Atlanta for an 11 year stretch.
F'HIM & YOU TOO!!
HERES A NEW IDEA: Maybe J-Fed can send P.O.'s from the DOC out to the street so they can get a firt hand look on whats realy going on.
How long is it going to take for J-FED to get more P.O.'s out into the Districts? Is he going to except is under-links taking their time seeing were they can take P.O.'s from? Maybe they will start a phantom group of 50 P.O.'s and when someone asks were are they? They can play the shell game, there some where eles.
4/03/2008 03:57:00 AM
another guy who will complain about not getting promoted.."under-links" "some where" "eles" "firt hand" "except" "were are they"
Off topic: D.B.(007) is one of the best officers out there. It is a shame he lost his temper, I would like to know why his partner did not step in and try to stop him for his own good. Who could blame a guy for getting a little nuts when he goes home and sees his wife in his house with another man. He was not some kind of nut he just caught his wife with another man.
4/03/2008 03:39:00 AM
it is a shame but he has only himself to blame. there is no woman
out there worth losing your job or going to jail for period. plenty of
other woman to fool around with he needs to let it go and get some anger management skills
First of all, what is the commander going to do as far as reducing crime goes, being on the street every weekend? Nothing! Crime rates will continue to rise as long as the police can no longer be proactive. Before, teams were stopping cars and getting guns and drugs. Stopping shady people and gang bangers getting drugs and guns. You can no longer do this or face violating someones rights on camera. Then what? Suspension, firing, rule 14 violation, law suits, etc.
You can no longer be the proactive police. Now you are the reactive civil servant. Take your case report after the crime, carry the drunk to detox, write some tickets and generate a bunch of bullshit reports instead of making arrests. Its the times and no commander can change that, regardless of schedule.
It will get worse as the summer goes on...mark my words. Protect yourselves from the bad guys on the street and the ones fucking you for drinking off duty and a host of other nonsense to further their careers.
We serve and protect should now read, we serve and report...kinda like a security guard?????
They make 130-150K a year let them work for it! Yea like they work! What are they going to do to stem the rise in crime and the anti-police backlash? Nothing? Hope they can also answer calls we need help in the districts! Just read in the news hound paper that the Supt and new D.C. of 008 met with the community and Zalewski and said they would put more resources on the west end of 008 where the tax payers live we will be watching! hey 008 Commander how about a couple of permanent tac cars maybe a tru unit of 6-8 cars? How about since you grew up here more help? You promised to the chamber you know the business people who pay the high taxes!
Ego baby thats all it is
Hey you know what boss we are low on curfews so while you are out there throw some on the board! Because I'm not.
the helicopter huh???
J-Fed what the hell are you doing? Man is the new media eating all this shit up day after day. J-Fed, Daley has taught you well to shmooze the public with a false sense of security and some half ass ideas that will never work.
Now you pissed off the commanders of each district. Morale is going to sink even lower if thats possible. I wonder if all the commanders saw that knife in your hand that was about to stab them all in the back at the recent promotion ceromony.
Helicopter! Yeah okay. A copper needs a chopper, he cant call for one. he has to "track" down a sgt, then the sgt has to request one, after they drag their ass around and get to where you need then, the need for them and the event is all over.
J-Fed, loosen the reigns on the working police, let them do the job at hand and take a deep breath and put your big head back on your shoulders.
Hire more police. Give us a contract. I haven't seen a police car on my block in over 3 weeks. Oh yeah, the good honest taxpaying blocks in the city get no police service. business as usual.
50 desk jockeys from headquarters on the street. like they want to work. like they will do any form of police work while on the street. yeah right.
Looks like an opprtunity for Gene "Rule 14 Violation " Roy to pick up a few more pinches.
Make sure those arrests are in the DOC retard.
Better yet, get some bullshit strong arm robbery pinch so you and Otero can hook up again.
Lets see, former partners, now detective and commander in the same area, next bunk mates at a Federal Pen in Wisconsin. Hope that b.s. homicide pinch was worth it.
I earned my rank and deserve to drive my city owned car with city gas on saturday night to take out my girlfriend while my wife stays home wit the kids. I booze it up at some swanky joint and get a little num num later. Why should I have to baby sit some snot nose no clout hair gel fools that think this is a real job?Come on Baby get a life!!!
4/03/2008 07:04:00 AM
OK! TRU COMMANDER, GO BACK TO BED, AND SORRY TO WAKE YOU WITH THAT NOTIFICATION!!!!!!!!!!!
First they blamed the problem on P/O's drinking. Than they said we need more school. Now what do they say with all these nuts on the job?
Who just suck up to the boss and report on everything everyone is doing. But never report on any body working.
On a somber note R. Eugene Pincham has passed away. Truly a great legal mind. He knew how to wear a cowboy hat and speak like a HS dropout.
Smoke and mirrors people, smoke and mirrors once again. Get in the media to show these big changes which actually do nothing.
Man..I felt bad at first when I was demoted back to Capt. Now I realize you did me a FAVOR. THANKS, J-FED!!!
$130,000 a yr,deal with it
I just thought of a way to get at least 25 more bodies of man power on the streets...Get the Commanders to work the streets on the weekend!
What a new and refreshing idea.
I'm thinking out of the box.
Soo J(in over his head)FED put commanders on the street on weekends,and that will help us how?
Because daley is an ass and JW turned in his balls when he said yes to $25,000 a month,which means we won't get any new po's hired until next summer and by putting 50 desk dogs from 35th on the street,which is a joke,what are they going to do besides take a 2hr lunch and hide somewhere,speaking of the 2hr lunch,maybe the elite(not)TRU dat unit can be used more wisely in districts that actually need them and when they go in with a 1 bagger,maybe there sgt.can take his or her balls out of the trunk and make sure only the the arresting po's are on the arrest and make the the paper jumpers go back on the street instead of checking email,just a thought.
Off topic: D.B.(007) is one of the best officers out there. It is a shame he lost his temper, I would like to know why his partner did not step in and try to stop him for his own good. Who could blame a guy for getting a little nuts when he goes home and sees his wife in his house with another man. He was not some kind of nut he just caught his wife with another man.
4/03/2008 03:39:00 AM
his partner did try and stop him, his partner probably stopped DB from shooting or killing someone, according to the arrest report. My question is did cynthia white actually hold his partner in the lock up for 8 hours?
To the We Were Soldeirs writer, you are right on...It is somewhat of an insult to say that because the commanders are there crime will slow down because us useless underlings can't do our job...Guess what these idiots are going to shoot each other no matter who is out there, the only way to combat it is to have the parents take some responsibility. We are the police not their parents, we can offer advice and avenues to get help, but we cannot raise these kids...
the other question is if all the district commanders have to be out there what about the other exempts? are they going to be spending more nights in their units to help fight crime?
This was not a Cline or Hillard idea it was a little richie idea. Remember Weiss did away with it and now he rethinks it or the mayor tells him to reinstate in. Maybe he wants company while he drives around the city with his friends in his blk. Tahoe with Michigan plates.
I would think all those newly made commanders knew that would be at the mercy of J-Fed---He has there "souls" they either do as he says or say goodbye--thats the exempt status! I just hope its worth it for them!
Does anyone know? Did anyone refuse the position?
the helicopter on weekends good luck!!!!!!
BEWARE BROTHERS AND SISTERS!
I just found out that one of the IAD rat sergeants is the same guy who changed his story after being promised a spot and got a PO (KM) from 019 fired??
Any truth to this rumor??
Yea right, they're supposed to be out on the street every Fri. night now, in the 004th District I haven't seen the Commander work on a Fri. night since like New Years Eve. Good luck getting him there every weekend night. TIME FOR A CHANGE IN 004. and not a promotion for the triple merit promoted Alexander who spent like 2-minutes in a patrol car...
(hey gallows, kiss my ass)
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I remember the gallows fondly.
I/F from Fillmore in the 80's.
Someone remind us never to ask for a Commander spot. It just isn't worth the hassle anymore.
Retired P.O. says
I worked weekends most of my career for about 1/3 their pension. Hard to feel sorry for them.
Anonymous said...
Is there a DEt's class being made soon?????????????????????
4/03/2008 07:20:00 AM
Yes in three weeks. 50 to be promoted. reliable source.
I was trying to give J-Fed some credit for his changes, but it is obvious he may be in over his head. He will do four years and run to get out of here, it's a shame. Wait until the summer gets here and the real killing starts.
I've come to the realization how I truly feel. Fuck this city, Fuck the police department, Fuck J-Fed, Fuck all the Deputy Superintendents, most commanders, lieutenants and sergeants. They don't want you do drink off duty, but all they do is stick it up coppers asses every chance they get. For any cop that has a chnce to go to another deparment, do it. This department is in the shitter.
Off topic: D.B.(007) is one of the best officers out there. It is a shame he lost his temper, I would like to know why his partner did not step in and try to stop him for his own good. Who could blame a guy for getting a little nuts when he goes home and sees his wife in his house with another man. He was not some kind of nut he just caught his wife with another man.
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Get the facts before you start spreading lies and half truths. Don't blame the partner for this officers actions.
Lets see if the partner or the Sergeant or Watch Commander takes some time.
Maybe J-NOB can fly around in the helicopter with his cats on the weekend! With my 8a&9a furlo i plan on being on the lake with my family most of the summer.The extra money Commanders make should pay for their divorce proceedings.
It started in the late 70's that commanders were asked to ride around in their districts on the weekends. Nothing new here. And with some over zealous commanders, who like to hang around 24/7, they put in 80/90 hours a week.
No OT, so they are making the same as some Sgt's, p.o.'s and Det's. when you divide into their total paycheck.
The only one making out is J-Fed, $310,000.
It's nice to see Gold Stars getting fucked by their own instead of us always getting fucked by them. Have fun beotches!!!!!!!
THIS TO SHALL PASS!
Anonymous said...
Lies & more Lies = Time Keeping Records at the Airports! just ask LT. Jim...
4/01/2008 09:38:00 AM
run angela. it's the pits, man.
My Dad was a Commander in the 80s. We spent the whole summer in Lake Geneva!
we have a helicopter??
4/03/2008 03:39:00 AM
his partner did try and stop him, his partner probably stopped DB from shooting or killing someone, according to the arrest report. My question is did cynthia white actually hold his partner in the lock up for 8 hours?
4/03/2008 02:57:00 PM
Not for 8 hours, but yes she did detain the partner, also sent DB to 26th on the prisoner bus.
"I don't know most of the D/Cs but I cannot think of a SINGLE one that I do know that I would want backing me up on the street. Not one. And that's sad."
Well SUPERCOP, it sounds like you've got it all under control.
You won't see most Commanders during those hrs. J-Fed released to the media. First of all, he's said nothing officially to any of the exempts. Until he does this, they won't be nudged out during those days and times mentioned in the article.
There are already a few cdrs who were out there late at night, on Fridays and/or when needed. Northside? Georges of 018 comes to mind.
Westside? Jackson and, at times, Wysinger.
Southside? Roy. Patterson. Schmitz.
Franklin.
Some of the bosses I mentioned now have new jobs, and don't command districts any more. A lot of them are missed already.
I love these self important aholes! Don't you?
At the detective graduation Grau and Williams were both on their crackberries on the stage in the front row while Starks was giving his speech. It was interesting on a few levels. It said to Starks we don't have to pretend to care what you have to say because you are out.
It was interesting as to where we are as a society that many people feel it is acceptable to be on a stage at a ceremony playing on the phone while someone is speaking in front of hundreds of people . My children have better manners and they are teenagers!Could you imagine what one of these jerks would have done if we were on a phone while they were talking.
And it was interesting that you thought the department could not function without you for a short ceremony. Guess you were wrong on that one since you both got dumped.
Projects in 019 dangerous????
You have got to be kidding me. They are the biggest sissies I have ever seen.
we have a helicopter??
7777777777777777777777777777777
when they have enough giganitic rubber bands in stock. Up, Up and away!
I don't think you will see a detective promotion in 3 weeks because merit notice usally is put out about 6 weeks prior and I have yet to see one. Sergeants probably soon.
The kicker his partner will probably get 30 days. DB Needs to be federally indicted & sent to the Fed Pen in Atlanta for an 11 year stretch.
F'HIM & YOU TOO!!
4/03/2008 11:44:00 AM
If that happens I hope John Burge is in the cell with him. D.B. was involved in a domestic, Burge is a fat ass racist who made up cases.
I saw JJ Jimmy Jackson on more than a few occasions on the streets at night in 011. Man, he didn't take any shit, and would not allow his guys to either.
Old Gangs west Sgt. At least he worked the streets.
I am sick to think of the real boss' that are turning in their graves. Hey, Capt./dumped CMDR. Joe Mullen, you predicted most of this BS at your retirement and it is happening. RIP Joe and the CPD.
4/03/2008 09:51:00 AM
In my previous entry about Superintendent Rochford's edict regarding exempts working in patrol on the weekends, I specifically did not expound, as you did, on Rochford's plan, a plan that I know quite well, because I did not want to give fucking J-Tool any good ideas, fuck him and all his buddies, and Rochford's idea was a good one, he got those fuck exempts on the street, and its an idea that the Young Baby Turks like LOA Jagoff Lt. Brian Murphy (the Mayor's informant about the CPD with 2 fucking minutes on the job which included his meteoric rise through the ranks to Lt) knew nothing about and could not tell J-Fool or the Mayor Silly about it. So congratulations asshat, you just spilled the fucking beans. Grau and Williams couldn't even have told them because they came on the job in 1982 and 1977, respectively.
As far as civilain exempts, do not confuse civilian employees with civilian exempts. Mitchell Ware was the only civilian exempt in the 70's and even he was a quasi-civilian. If you remember, he was empowered to be armed, and armed he was with a pistola. And he rode with us on the 3rd Watch in 007 in the mid 70's in a suit and tie with the biscuit on his belt.
So, let's take an accounting. You blabbed some good info, and talked shit about shit you do not know, so shut the fuck up asshat.
Who wants those morons around on the weekends? They'll be calling for cars for stupid shit and shouting orders like Generals. What a pain in the ass.
The only good thing is that 60% of their time will be spent on midnights, leaving only 2 days a week to attend to actual district business. Sorry Reverend, I can't attend your meeting unless it starts at 2300hrs. Mr. Alderman, please leave your message at the beep, the commander is out of the office during normal business hours for the next 5 days; he will return your call as soon as possible.
When he is told how much the chopper costs an hour to operate, he'll re-think that position....
Who's gonna hold their slips when they duck early?
Helpful Hints:
-You need to fill out your log correctly and check the lunch box too...
-Oh yeah.....Swipe in!
-Sign out a taser just in case.
-Get as many mission/event numbers as possible (psssst it make them think we're working.... wink wink)
-If they call you ....try not to go down on a traffic stop or ask for lunch we have enough of those guys already out there.
-Hey Watch what you eat out there J-Fed is counting your calories and try not to congregate at the 7-11...
-Go GET EM TIGER's and lets get the numbers up shall we! Heads heads heads and on the DOC!
-And don't think of going to a 5am bar after work FYI I hear the Superintendent is doing Road blocks.......... Have at it Commanders!
I love it! Go Boss Go!!!
I'll work my 8 w/no OT and send those bosses out on the street!
Field Lt. Is the best spot ever now!
J-Fed has sum good ideas, but he forgot we got a contract! Weak as it is! None of his REFORMS besides new cars will affect us until an arbitrator decides them. Contract arbitration coming soon at 1 year anniversary of no contract. 9 months later decision, 3 months later retro and what new contact gets shoved down our throats!!!
THANKS F.O.P.
How do you get the info on scattered site and section 8 housing? I'd like to know how many are in my neighborhood.
"50 desk jockeys from headquarters on the street. like they want to work. like they will do any form of police work while on the street. yeah right.
4/03/2008 12:34:00 PM"
Exactly, there is no point to that. Other than having a car ride around MIGHT prevent a crime but in no way will ANY of them be proactive. Especially on midnights, after they realize it's 2am they'll think it's bed time and you won't see them the rest of the night.
please block off clark street between
addison and newport....it is ridiculous.....the drunks run the streets and the traffic is log jammed for blocks....be smart
am i wrong or didn't i here j-fit say he was going to give more power to the district commanders? and not from 35th street.
now "Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis has ordered his 25 district commanders to hit the streets on Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights" someone talks before he thinks
50 desk jockeys from headquarters on the street. like they want to work. like they will do any form of police work while on the street. yeah right.
4/03/2008 12:34:00 PM"
Exactly, there is no point to that. Other than having a car ride around MIGHT prevent a crime but in no way will ANY of them be proactive. Especially on midnights, after they realize it's 2am they'll think it's bed time and you won't see them the rest of the night.
4/03/2008 10:59:00 PM
they will be just like tru. can i have a car over here to write this report ...
Which Commander will be IOD first? Lets get some odd going here. Assume that they have to do this till the end of August. Will anyone of them have the balls to go IOD if they are injured? You be the judge.
Who cares? Districts answer calls of service. When the want a break they go in w/ something, take a lunch or personal. So now what XX00 will call for a car to handle some paper. Big frickn deal.
See u at the hole.
"please block off clark street between
addison and newport....it is ridiculous.....the drunks run the streets and the traffic is log jammed for blocks....be smart"
Traffic Management Authority is there to allay all you concerns.
Fear not citizen, when TMA Traffic Control Aides are on scene.
BWWWAAAAHHHHH!!!!
"If that happens I hope John Burge is in the cell with him. D.B. was involved in a domestic, Burge is a fat ass racist who made up cases.
4/03/2008 09:18:00 PM"
Totally irrelevant Assclown.
Might want to Lay off the JJ Fish for awhile the hotsauce is making you loopy.
Will one of you inside office persons help us out here? I know that all exempt have always been required to work an additional 10 hours (I think) per week. Every week exempt have to complete some formset-type report that details where and when and how many hours they worked their required "exempt overtime".
Most exempt have their secretaries complete and submit this report. They usually shout out some bs "put down that I attended role call in 014 for 1 hour on 1 May; put down that I was on the scene of a homicide in 011 for 3 hours on 2 May."
The working Friday nights thing was never officially over. Dana just didn't care and wasn't doing a head count on Friday nights like Fill. Yet again, many of the exempt ignored that policy under Fill and still got away with it.
This working extra hours for exempt is nothing new. As always, they'll figure out how to make it work for them.
you know what. how about sending TRU to each district on rotation. not just 5-6 specific districts all the time. let them experience and police all the districts city wide. fuck the doc driving around in circles looking like idiots. give them free reign in the whole district and tell them, have at it! it's about time all the good tax paying non-criminal people get some police service.
somewhere,speaking of the 2hr lunch,maybe the elite(not)TRU dat unit can be used more wisely in districts that actually need them and when they go in with a 1 bagger,maybe there sgt.can take his or her balls out of the trunk and make sure only the the arresting po's are on the arrest and make the the paper jumpers go back on the street instead of checking email,just a thought.
Here's another thought, be a man and say something to them if you have a problem, they aren't doing anything a tac team isn't doing, they work together, eat together, help knowck out the paper and get out of your shitty district.
here is an idae lets put all the bosses on the streets at least we would have more manpower then maybe they could make an arrest!
I'm confused; If the commanders are on the street 3 nites a week playing p/os, who is going to be doing whatever it is they were doing m-f 9-5? Does anyone know what they do anyways?
Challenge to all BOSSES !!If this Weis had any balls, he would make all bosses wear blue shirts with a small designater to show rank. Then, when they arrive on a particular scene, they can and would be treated as we are, without the public knowing who they really are. We all know the bosses, no need for a white shirt. This would give these bosses a real taste of what we deal with regularly. Weis really needs to do this, or is he afraid?? Time to show what your made of.
COMMANDER ROY(009) WON'T BE ABLE TO WORK WEEKENDS. HE'S TOO BUSY BANGING HIS NEIGHBORHOOD RELATIONS GIRL AT HIS COTTAGE.
If that happens I hope John Burge is in the cell with him. D.B. was involved in a domestic, Burge is a fat ass racist who made up cases.
4/03/2008 09:18:00 PM
Put your dashiki back on and go back to the militant studies group in the basement of the Mosque. You have no idea what you're talking about. You seem to believe that Jon Burge is responsible for framing thousands of black men, including his most high profile victim Aaron Patterson. I sure you believe Burge manufactored his latest case from Florida.
Let me fill you in, nobody takes you seriously. No matter how militant you want to act and recite your racist propaganda you will always be a joke to the rest of the world. On the bright side of things you'll always have 79th and Halsted and the barber shop.
The Detectives class actually might me made in 3 weeks or so.
Word is that J-Fed wants to saturate the city this summer with "crime fighting/solving forces" Heard possibley 100 detectives to be made, definately 50 Sgts, and the Capts. are absolute. J-fed might just take old "MERIT" packages that were submitted, but obviously were not made, for the last Dicks class and just use them instead of going back to the well and scurring up some new packages for merit picks.. So it is possible for those Dets. to be made in 3 weeks or so.
Judy Martin will now be able to appear on the scene when her son starts to act up again and beat officers will not have to be in the middle. She can make the arrest of the moron.
Therefore this is a great order.
Good points made by you; especially
the
"lying to a fed" crap....
However, Im insulted you never mentioned 019 in your combat zone list.
If jody ran around w/me in our projects here; I'd have him on the medical in 4 hours from panic attacks, rapid heartbeat, etc..
DANGERS NO**********************
4/03/2008 09:38:00 AM
I almost had a heart attack a couple of times in 019. when some sming hot scantly clad skanks walked out of the bars showing everything. Thank you 019. Now i have to take my heart medicine.
It is 2210 hours...Do you know where your Commander is?
anonymous said...
... Burge is a fat ass racist who made up cases.
4/03/2008 09:18:00 PM
The above poster does have a point.
the chopper isnt one of their pilots like 80 years old
Superintendent, who ever advised you to make the commanders work the street is probably a hold over from the past or just an incompetent boob who has never had an original idea. I'm going to explain to you what is, at least, a major contributor to the problems on CPD. First, Captains are appointed and, instead, need to be a civil service rank again. You need to totally increase the amount of Lieutenants in the district so that there is always a field lieutenant working. Next, put enough PO's back in the districts so your sergeants can be supervisors again instead of rapid response cars. Rank on this job has been completely watered down over my last 22 years on the job. When I started you could not walk into a watch commanders office, not even to get an arrest report signed. The desk sergeant took your arrest reports to the watch commander. There was almost always a field lieutenant and when he appeared on the scene everyone straightened up, put on there hats, toned down the bull shit, just out of respect for the rank. Sergeant's were bosses, not back up. If a sergeant was assigned a job, even a burglar alarm, coppers came off personals and even lunches to give him a waive off. Now, a sergeant is given an assignment long before patrolman working tact or gangs, not to mention the hundreds of patrolman in special units who answer no calls. The rank structure has been stripped down and those at headquarters only know how to manage, they do not lead. General George Patton was a leader, not a manager. Ronald Reagan was a leader, not a manager. Teddy Roosevelt was a leader, not a manager, and he was once the chief of police in New York, ummm...Mr. Superintendent, you need to be a leader, not a head hunter, not a micro manager and definitely not a Daley flunky. You do not want to be listening to that Bar exam failing moron. Yea, he is a great politician but is that saying much. He sucks as a man and as a Mayor, his Rome is smoldering and about to burst into a ragging inferno. All these new houses are going to be ashes but at least we don't have to worry about to many businesses burning..Put your commanders back in their offices, let them run their districts. Give your Capt's some ability to disagree with the commander from time to time. Put the lieutenant back in the field and restore your sergeants to supervisors. These steps will begin to fix this horrible mess.
6:50pm. Thank YOU, that was a beautiful read. How about this?
Ya think the problem might have something to do with our true bosses? The person i entrust with my life and strain to understand for a tour? We take our orders from a dispatcher who has no idea what we do. anyone else??
"We take our orders from a dispatcher who has no idea what we do. anyone else??
4/06/2008 09:10:00 AM"
A lot comes down to that pesty second-guessing bullshit that one has to keep in mind at all times.
When your own judgment is subject to being rehashed by idiots, what you're left with is being effectively handcuffed going in to any situation.
It's always gonna be a crap-shoot, with your decisions of the moment being what determines whether you make it home or not.
Like most everything in life, 'To thine own self be true' is about the best you can do.
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