Union Busting
We know the new Superintendent is pretty much in the dark when it comes to contracts and such, seeing as how the feebs don't have to work within the framework of labor agreements. But you'd think that other people close to him might have the tiniest little grasp of labor law?
Last Change Day, we noted that a bunch of Sergeants that had been listed on the Transfer Order as moving from cushy north side Districts to the far south side (003, 004, 005, etc), we're suddenly the subject of a Personnel Order canceling their reassignments.
Evidently, another Personnel Order came forth late Wednesday, effective Thursday (Change Day), rescinding another batch of transfers from the north side to Area 2 and beyond.
What's going on? And furthermore, is anyone paying attention? So far it's only white shirts being messed with, but if the Department gets on over on the PBPA, they're coming after the rank and file right afterwards. Give the City and inch and they'll take a yard, call it "precedent," and get some arbitrator to take away the bid system.
Last Change Day, we noted that a bunch of Sergeants that had been listed on the Transfer Order as moving from cushy north side Districts to the far south side (003, 004, 005, etc), we're suddenly the subject of a Personnel Order canceling their reassignments.
Evidently, another Personnel Order came forth late Wednesday, effective Thursday (Change Day), rescinding another batch of transfers from the north side to Area 2 and beyond.
What's going on? And furthermore, is anyone paying attention? So far it's only white shirts being messed with, but if the Department gets on over on the PBPA, they're coming after the rank and file right afterwards. Give the City and inch and they'll take a yard, call it "precedent," and get some arbitrator to take away the bid system.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
178 Comments:
If the PBPA got some teeth and stood its ground this BS WOULD NOT HAPPEN.
The Chicago and the mayors way is to do what they want even if it violates law or contract and worry about the consequences later. Until somebody calls them on it in court they will do what they want. Perfect example is the Shakman settlement.
Weis proved that he knows Jack Shit about Police work, he said he was a huge fan of TRU. Maybe them elitist 5 car for one traffic stop usin morons should get out of the BDU's and get into a regular uniform. They aren't special, haven't met one yet that I thought was worth a damn.
Area 1 Gang Team going to Rifle training?
I heard JFED say on radio that merit promos can be given to those that score over 90% on the test. It use to be all you had to do was take the 1st part of the test to get a merit spot now you have to have scored over 90%. Wow this is what I call thining the heard. He wont be able to find enough clouted people to fill the merit so what will he do. Just what they have always done provide the answers to the clouted ones!!!
How can they move them from one District to another, when they are assigned to that District? Is this just for a short time(90 days) or is this for good and do they have to try to bid back?
NOPE,
These bitches ain't getting nothing past us.
P.S. Kiss my fat white ass WYSINGER
Jody told Roe Conn he'd drive me home if I got drunk!
He's gonna be earning that $300k!
The J-Fed interview on WLS Radio today was awesome. It showed that Daley is still pulling the puppet strings. That Daley wrote J-Feds notes when it comes to the word "technology". Way to go to the officer that called in and confronted J-Fed with the 9,400 sworn officers "not" the bullshit number of 13,500 that they keep using and you know what J-Fed replied "Oh Um Uh Um I don't have that figure available but if you include the couple thousand civilians" what the fuck NO we're not talking about civilians, we're talking about sworn police. That was awesome. So was the caller about drinking some beers on my own property off duty not breaking any laws and J-Fed set the record straight. Hey "I have a recording of that when he denies what he said" and YES my whole watch will be calling you, yes YOU for a ride home from the tavern. Don't be late either, I have to have sex with my wife, feed the fish and the cat and get a couple hours sleep before I have to go to court. J-Fed totally ignored the "no Contract" issue and the "Fed" issue at hand. That's bullshit, we still want answers!
The erosion of or senority rights, ability to work where we want and on what watch we want will eventually be exchanged thru the Contract Negotiation process by the FOP in exchange for 30 pieces of silver.
FOP members will trade just about anything for a raise and/or abolishment of the residency requirement.
We as members of the FOP bargaining unit need to look at our futures. Will the day come when we anxiously await the transfer order to see if we have been reassigned to another district? LORD FORBID that this happens, BUT i can almost envision a contract that is for those with 10 plus years and those who are under that amount.(Pension vs.401K or 457) The ability to re-assign manpower at the whim of the Mayor, Sup, First Dep or Dep Sup Bureau of Patrol is a wet dream of the city im sure.I hope we never see this.
2.5 years and counting. CAN"T wait to etire and get the hell out of this city.
WTF?!
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Two ISP troopers, IDOC employee injured at Stateville prison
April 24, 2008
LOCKPORT -- Two Illinois State Police troopers and a Department of Corrections employee were injured Thursday morning in a police-involved shooting at the Stateville Correctional Center officer dormitory in southwest suburban Lockport.
An ISP Joliet District sergeant and trooper responded to the prison's officer dormitory about 4 a.m. after receiving a report of a domestic disturbance, according to a release from ISP.
The troopers spoke to a female complainant about the situation and confronted the suspect -- a male IDOC employee -- who allegedly became argumentative.
The suspect then attacked the sergeant, striking him and pushing him against the wall. The suspect then attacked the trooper, striking her in the face several times, the release said. The sergeant was allegedly trying to stop the attack on the trooper when the suspect tried to disarm the sergeant and grab his weapon, the release said.
The sergeant drew his weapon and shot the suspect in the torso twice, the release said.
The trooper, sergeant and suspect were all taken to Provena Saint Joseph Medical Center in Joliet. The sergeant suffered head and neck injuries, and the female trooper suffered a broken nose and lacerations to her face.
Both have been treated and released, ISP Trooper Mark Dorencz said Thursday night.
The suspect remains in critical condition, as of 5 p.m. Thursday, ISP Master Sgt. Luis Gutierrez said.
The ISP Division of Internal Investigations is investigating the shooting.
I've got the a great solution to the problem.... MAKE SOME MORE DAMN SGT'S!!
Think they've made about 50 in the last two years, that's really keeping up with the retirements.
And how about some more blue shirts. The crime is going through the roof, but keep sending the recruit classes home. That'll help.
The sergeants were able to show an addiction to Starbucks coffee. The lack of safe and available Starbucks on the south side made for a hostile working enviroment. The PBPA did a fine job on this one.
Leave those sergeants up north. They probably haven't seen much action to do any good down here anyway.
An old tactic....
Move supervisors from one side of the city to the other, or dump them from a unit. They get one week, basicly until change day, to show their hand, if they have clout.
The phonecall is made keeping the supervisor where he/she is, and now they have shown who their clout is.
Make running the dept a little easier.
This is what keeps the cronyism alive.
Now, the new boses now who they can go to and ask for favors.
A form of quid pro quo.
Happens all the time.
On a side note, the new Supt. claims to be revamping the merit process, ha.
12 Hour days!!!
On the Roe Conn radio program yesterday afternoon, J-Fed denied that there is a morale problem within the CPD.
This leaves us with but two possibilities: Weis is either a bald-faced liar or he is delusional.
As all of us know and one female caller noted, morale has never been lower. It appears to be nonexistent.
Another angle that the city is playing to relieve the shortage of Sergeants in 003, 004, 005, and 006......they have been detailing Sergeants from 022 to these districts for 90 days at a time, allowed by the Sgts contract, as long as the affected Sergeants are management picks on their watches. Another restriction on this is that Sergeants can only be tailed in this manner once every 180 days.
The city has now used all of the management Sergeants in 022 so often that there is nobody left to detail next period (12 Sgts in this group). The city is now permanently re-assigning Sergeants from 022 to Area 2, and they will have to call in for their assignment each night---what district they are working in. Five Sergeants dumped from TRU also are being affected in this way. This is a real blatent contract violation that the Sergeants union better raise hell about.
Before you rag on about the Sergeants and 022 in general, it could be you next, the P.O. in 012, 018, 001, etc. Like other posters have said before, once precedent has been set, if it is uncontested, it becomes the operating rules for the department, whether a contract violation or not.
I will tell you that there is an attempt underway to undermine the supervisors unions. It doesn't come from J-Fed, but City Hall and other high ranking exempts. (Look at the actions of Jackson, Skahill et al.) If they get away with it, they will be coming for FOP next, of course the leadership of FOP will be asleep at the switch as usual.
T. Puentes, time to kiss some ass, and make the transfer out of 021. Oh,you'll make new house calls and backup no one at your new dictsirct. I'll reach out to your red head and console her once she knows. Mybe then i'll get those lunch specials at the lake
Could anyone give a summary of what was discussed on the Roe Conn show?
those North-Siders should have t come out to Area 2 and 1 to work. Then they would know how it is to have to do 3 times the amount of work daily for the same pay as the North-Siders get. I'll police Wrigleyville or the Gold Coast, and they can police Roseland or Englewood for a few years, and see how it really is. Can you spell
C O M B A T P A Y ?
I didnt know that we as Chicago Police Officers had a union?
FOP is not a union.
A Great Idea, maybe? Hire back our P.O's at time and 1/2 overtime by seniority for Fridays, Saturdays, and Holidays for the summer. Work a 12 hr. power shift, just continue after your 8 hrs.already working, if O.T. approved. Only the busiest Districts and Areas to get the extra manpower, where most needed. Lets face it, we don't need extra cops riding around Lincoln Park on bicycles when the south side is going berserk. It would cost the City some money, but in the long run be cheaper to the taxpayers, as there would be NO need to hire and train additional inexperienced police recruits. Just do this during the busy Summer months, perhaps mid-May thru end of August. As long as it's done fairly, it could possibly improve morale a bit. Experienced P.O's for a few months on power shifts for overtime , as opposed to hiring , training, etc; new rookies who are costing the City too much. We don't need em when it's zero outside in winter, just beef up the right places at the right times, during the right months. Cheaper in the long run, and immediate experience and coverage in the right places. We alll could use a few extra bucks.
J-Fed on the radio
http://wlsam.1871dev.com/content/img/f46081/Jody_Weis_Part_1.mp3
http://wlsam.1871dev.com/content/img/f46081/Jody_Weis_Part_2.mp3
In a bench trial, NYPD MOS Michael Oliver, Gescard Isnora and Marc Cooper were acquitted of all charges in the shooting death of Sean Bell outside a Queens strip club.
SCC, you had a thread about this way back in August of 2007. Heres the follow up.
If you ever thought about joining or tried to join the Mounted Unit or actually made into riding school and were told you werent going to make it, this may be of interest to you.
The Unit Commander, trainers and supervisors of the unit, except maybe one, all concluded that this officer could not safely control a horse on the street. Remember that phrase "safely control a horse on the street."
Word is that Dana's girl got made this week, imagine that and it only took her ten months.
Everybody else had to do it in fourteen weeks, without one on one instruction time with the trainers. They were good enough to do that but obviously not competent enough to administer her final "test."
The test? Oh that, well that was all on the level. Whats that? She gets take her pick of which horse to test on? So if the trainers or any bosses of the unit were removed from the process of determining this officers abilities then who had the final say so? Commander Franklin came and gave final approval of this officer's test.
No offense boss but you have exactly how much experience judging a person's riding ability?
So the worse case scenario being a citizen or another PO being seriously injured as a result an officer not being able to "safely control a horse on the street." Tell me this, where should the ultimate liability rest?
One person who had a beef with the past unit commander created this whole situation. The same person that had numerous infractions that he should have taken time for but was kept out of trouble by the same boss he pulled out his race card on. When you cried to all the higher ups you forgot to mention all the shit you did.
So come to the horses boys and girls because it really isnt about clout anymore. How do you spell "grievance?"
Well at least she didnt want to be a Bomb Tech.
Three New York City Detectives charged with murder were found NOT GUILTY!
What the f---k happened? Us old street coppers passed the TORCH to you, and because you got a new BOSS you let the Torch go out.
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Another old loser who learned how to work a computer. Hi Pop. I remember you guys. You were the ones who created the atmosphere these younger coppers have to work in today. I remember walking to school right past your squad car at 8 AM, but of course you didn't see me because you were snoring. I remember when I got back from Vietnam you were my FTO and you had to stop at every bar on the beat so you could gobble down some liquid courage (remember those triple vodkas?) I remember a lot more, but I won't write it here because I know the press reads this blog. The young Chicago cops wearing the blue today are, in my humble opinion, the finest group of people I've seen ever wearing this badge. They're smart; they're dedicated; and they want to do a good job for this city. But they can't, because you "old street coppers" ruined it for them. You're sitting back fat, stupid, drunk and happy and they're paying the price. Daley isn't making their pension contributions, and what's in the pension fund is getting drained to his cronies. Richie's hired a dumbshit Fed cop wannabe to run the Department, but Jody's a Judas and a pathetic liar and wants to hang as many coppers as he can. And to make the fake reverends happy, he wants white coppers stripped the most. I talked to an FOP lawyer the other day. He said that EVERY ONE at the IPRA is black. That's fair? And, he says that they are stripping coppers left and right for anything they can think of. The so-called "investigators" are even coming up with charges of their own that violate the grievance process, so when you go to the IPRA, make sure your lawyer is paying attention.
To you Pop, I say go take your free medications and congratulate yourself for making these young people pay for your dereliction of duty.
those North-Siders should have t come out to Area 2 and 1 to work. Then they would know how it is to have to do 3 times the amount of work daily for the same pay as the North-Siders get. I'll police Wrigleyville or the Gold Coast, and they can police Roseland or Englewood for a few years, and see how it really is. Can you spell
C O M B A T P A Y ?
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Why should they? The bid system is fair. If you don't like the ghetto bid out. What you are suggesting is exactly what the CITY would love to be able to do. I assume from the comment that either you live South, you have very little time, or you are an idiot that lives North but does not know how to fill out a par form to move to a district close to home. Before you post your stupid ass ideas get a clue and think. I really hope you are a boss posting some crap and not a blueshirt that really that dumb and thinks like the CITY.
In a bench trial, NYPD MOS Michael Oliver, Gescard Isnora and Marc Cooper were acquitted of all charges in the shooting death of Sean Bell outside a Queens strip club.
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The news reported that outside the courthouse among the things being chanted was "KKK". .......interesting considering two of the officers(defendants) were black. KKK membership must really be low.
TAKEN FROM THE CHICAGO PUBLIC SCHOOL WEBSITE
Newly hired teachers of the CPS for the 2007 - 2008 school year and who are certified/endorsed in subject areas deemed special needs may apply for a waiver to the residency policy, provided they are hired to teach in a special needs area of education. Such individuals must complete and submit applications for exemptions to the residency policy within 31 calendar days of their dates of hire. If granted, exemptions will be valid for three (3) academic years after the employee's date of hire and may be renewed for subsequent three (3) year periods, provided that the employees continue to be employed in a special needs position.
The current areas of education assessed as special needs are:
Special Education Teachers
Mathematics Teachers
Science Teachers
Librarians
Guidance Counselors
School Nurses
Reading Teachers
Bilingual Teachers
Physical Education Teachers
School Psychologists
Speech Pathologists
ROTC
Sign Language Interpreters
Occupational & Physical Therapists
Health Service Nurses
World Language (Chinese, Arabic, Russian, Latin, Farsi)
Important Points:
IS CATCHING BAD GUYS A SPECIAL NEED AREA? IS RISKING YOUR LIFE A SPECIAL NEED AREA? HOW ABOUT CARRYING A FIREARM TO DEFEND LIVES, SPECIAL NEED? i THINK WE GOT LIBRARAIANS TRUMPED.GUESS It MUST BE NICE TO BE A CITY EMPLOYEE AND LIVE WHERE EVER YOU PLEASE. ONCE THEY ALLOW RESIDENCE OUT OF THE CITY FOR SOME, HOW CAN THEY DENY THE REST, SOUNDS LIKE SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT. OBVIOUSLY THE CITY HAS SET A PRECEDENT THAT YOU CAN BE A VALUBALE,RESPONSIBLE, PUNCTUAL, EMPLOYEE LIVING OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.
I heard JFED say on radio that merit promos can be given to those that score over 90% on the test.
No...I think he meant performance ratings of over 90% but a bad score on the test. If you had a 90% test score, you wouldn't need a merit promotion.
Dear Jody,
I would like to share a little math with you. Lets say there are 10,000 SWORN POLICE (I am only using this as a nice even number to keep it simple...I believe it is much lower). Now lets say the department ACTUALLY had 12,000. 2,000 additional officers divided among 5 districts.......(005, 006, 007, 008, and 011). That would give you an additional
FOUR HUNDRED officers per district. Divide those four hundred into the 1st and 3rd watch and you have 200 officers more per watch in each of the five districts. Put 2 officers in each car(200/2=100) and you can put ONE HUNDRED ADDITIONAL CARS IN EACH OF THE FIVE DISTRICTS ON 1st and 3rd WATCH EACH. Do you THINK that would slow down the violence? But, I believe I read somewhere that Ald. Carothers said in 2008 we will be adding and additional 45 officers total when figuring in retirements and new recruits. So, it looks like instead each of the five districts will get hmmmmmm....45/5=9....9/2=4.5......4.5/2=2.25 TWO point TWO FIVE CARS additional PER WATCH if all go to these 5 districts.....I can see the kids playing in the streets now!
Or, I have another solution. Lets hire 2000 useless civilians. Give them flourescent red vests. Call them the VMA (violence management authority). Give them REALLY BRIGHT flashlights and have them stand on the corners in these problem areas. I'm sure they can do as good a job if not better than a trained police officer just like the traffic schmucks.
OFF TOPIC: No post on the Tues scum times? The entire front page printed backward with the caption "stop the killing" along with a picture of the backs of about 6 or 7 people, (all white, it wasn't a posed shot either it looked like someone snapped a pic of those people waiting at a crosswalk) and a story about how we're ignoring all the killings, racist inuendo at it's finest!! I thought SCC'd be ALL over that. Or do I need to find my glasses and look thru the previous posting again??
Score a huge win for law eonforcement today.
New York detectives acquitted in 50-bullet shooting of groom.
FUCK FAT AL Sharpton,God Bless the NYPD!!!
As a long time west side officer who is happy to be out of there i would like to say to all the tough guys bitching about how bad it is out south go north. Most of us when we were new work the shit then go to better places. 019 among other north districts had 4 to 5 openings per period for 2 years and you did not need hardly any time to succesfully bid. So quit telling us how rough you got it and how your the "real police" and fill out a par form or shut your yap! The guys who are always saying how there the "real police" generally ain't shit that's why they have to keep telling you they are.
J Feds interview yesterday shows that he has no clue as to what is going on in this department. I love how he kept saying his information is filtered. You know what that is the problem get out there and talk to the officers like you promised. Dont ignore them in headquarters when they say hello to you and dont ignore them on crime scenes when you show up. You say one thing and do another.
Weis proved that he knows Jack Shit about Police work, he said he was a huge fan of TRU. Maybe them elitist 5 car for one traffic stop usin morons should get out of the BDU's and get into a regular uniform. They aren't special, haven't met one yet that I thought was worth a damn.
4/25/2008 12:27:00 AM
Doesn't matter what you think my Mom thinks I'm special !
.5 years and counting. CAN"T wait to etire and get the hell out of this city.
4/25/2008 02:15:00 AM
I hear you brother....do you really want to be a supervisor?
I hope that these sergeants out South are filing grievances,a class action lawsuit funded independently of the PBPA may have to occur next.
Boys and girls we must unite and fight for our rights. If our so-called unions want to relinquish our contractual rights then it is encumbent upon us to wage our own war.
Together,we can. Lets us the CAPS motto too.
To bad a couple real good Sgts.got the shaft from the downsizing in TRU and to add insult to injury they are No.siders who got bounced south, keep your heads up B.O.& M.M.you will win in the end !
Two ISP troopers, IDOC employee injured at Stateville prison
April 24, 2008
Sounds like a chicken wing situation to me.19 paul.
Roe Conn kissed Jody's ass. It was also apparent that Conn was completely unprepared for the interview. He asked where Steroids went to college, where he worked, and was he in the Army for 6 years. Jaggie answered "Yes" to all these questions, implying that running a fed field office and 6 years in the Army is all you need to qualify you to run one of the world's largest Police Departments! No questions like: "Have you ever done polic work?" "Have you ever run a small police department?" He also led him with questions like: "Doesn't the violence escalate in Chicago the first warm weekend?" This allowed J-Roids the chance to excuse the violence with a short and simple answer.
I got a laugh when pinhead implied that there would be several "helicopters" up all weekend. When did we get a fleet of choppers? And then, when Conn blamed gangs for the violence, Shithead agreed but failed to name any gang names ('cause he don't know any!) but Conn never asked him to name names.
In short, Conn used the usual interviewing techniques to give Jody a big fat kiss on the ass. Waste of time.
we need to circle wagons. i have always supported fop but we need to see some leadership out of them. i dont think donahue is evil i just think he is playing too nice. we as rank and file go nuts trying to figure out what is truth and what is rumor. i dont need a picnic or fishing trip , i have my own family and friends. we need leadership. the fop is fast becoming a joke. in my opinon we should try to get as many people to call fop and put them on notice. every time i call them they say im the only call (complaint) they recieved. guys my father was an airline mechanic. when i was young i lived a great life my dad made great money plus benefits, we travled you get my point. than they broke the unions they claimed they were losing money (which they only started losing money recently i guess union busting isnt the answer) my point is my dad slowly lost everything even pension. now is the time to stand together and fight once things go too far you can never bring them back.your families well being should be your first priority.
Happy Birthday to Bill Nolan,FOP #7 Past President!!!
I attempted to get through to the Roe Conn Show to ask about the disciplinary system gone totally awry,unfortuantely I could not get through.
I want to know why police officers are being stripped everyday for BS and the union is not stopping it. The multitier system of discipline is also beyond belief.
here is our fearless leader
check out the link ...http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0407130235jul13,1,6705096.story
Off topic, but congratulations to our NYPD brothers in blue who were acquitted. Protest all you want, because the verdict did NOT go against the officers, justice was served. The judge made the correct decision based on the evidence presented, that's all. And kudos to the spokesman stating Police Officers do NOT have a script, they have to deal with circumstances that come to them. Brothers, you did the only thing you could do in the situation, and I am happy for you all!
Great News, the dicks in New York where aquited.
Law and Order Prevailed and the lack of accountabily folks have to realize it's police perspective and the totality of the circumstances, and not emotions of monday morning quarterbacks of police actions that rule the state courts when deadly force is applied.
Show your hands, turn off the car and listen to the police officer's verbal orders.
HOLY SMOKES! Okay, you all, use your cruise controls and be careful!
OUCH!!!
Illinois will begin using photo radar in freeway work zones
starting in July.
Beginning in July the State of Illinois will use speed cameras
in areas designated as "Work Zones" on major freeways. Anyone caught by
these devices will be mailed a
$375.00 ticket for the FIRST offense, but the SECOND offense
will cost $ 1000.00 and comes with a 90-Day suspension.
Drivers will also receive demerit points against their license ,
which allows insurance companies to raise their rates.
This represents the harshest penalty structure yet for a city or
state using PHOTO enforcements. The State will begin with TWO camera
vans issuing tickets in work zones with speed limits lowered to 45 MPH.
Photographs of both the Driver's face and License plate are
taken.
Pass this on to everyone you know.
I heard this too: Area 1 Midnight Gang Team 4 members , former military guys getting heavy weapons training. I hope that's true atleast we'll have big guns when we need them over night in Area 1.
These PETA people are very dangerous and are not beyond committing acts of terrorism to further their liberal agenda. Look at what they are doing now after the cougar incident in 019.
April 23rd, 2008
Dear Parents:
Wednesday afternoon, police officers brought to my attention a letter that they have received threatening the safety of Audubon’s students and community. The letter appears to have been written by someone angry about the shooting of the cougar in the neighborhood. The letter threatens the safety of Audubon students and makes threatening statements regarding the Spring Gala and the Audubon Family Fun Fair.
We have taken immediate steps to provide extra security at the school. I am working with the local police district, the Chicago Public Schools Office of Safety and Security, and the local Aldermen. We will have additional police patrols around the school, especially during drop-off and pick-up times. We will have an extra CPS security guard posted at the school. And, we will be keeping children indoors until it is deemed safe to be outside. Meanwhile, police detectives are doing everything that they can to find the person responsible.
While we have not made a decision about the Fun Fair, we have decided to go ahead with the Spring Gala. We will have our own additional security, and the police have agreed to provide security. We are confident that the Gala will be safe.
This is upsetting news for everyone. To answer all of your questions and concerns, we will be hosting a parent meeting on Friday morning, at 8am , in the school gymnasium. The police, the Aldermen, and I will be here to answer your questions and update you on the situation.
Please be assured that we are taking this matter seriously and that we are taking every precaution. If you have any questions at all, I hope you will attend the meeting on Friday. As always, please feel free to contact me by calling the school office.
Sincerely,
John P. Price
Principal, Audubon School
A Commitment to Learning
I just overheard a good one. Long gun / rifle program for patrol. Old surplus M16's, officers with 15yrs plus and 90% ratings (?) [thats what I could hear], and you must seek outside training, outside accredited range usage on your own, and own ammo. I'd like to see this order written out. I'll look for the rough drafts in the garbage near the copier......
a 015th district sergeant said...
NOPE,
These bitches ain't getting nothing past us.
P.S. Kiss my fat white ass WYSINGER
Thank you Sgt Linnane for your frankness. Now maybe you might try actually working for a change instead of hiding. Maybe then the next commander won't call you out. By the way you left out "Lazy" in your P.S.
J-Fed on the radio
http://wlsam.1871dev.com/content/img/f46081/Jody_Weis_Part_1.mp3
http://wlsam.1871dev.com/content/img/f46081/Jody_Weis_Part_2.mp3
4/25/2008 09:01:00 AM
Just wanted to thank the person who took the time to put this in an mp3 format so that we could listen to the interview at our leisure.
mounted unit; for your information, that girl should not have used the phone call to stay in the unit..she rides better than 70 percent of the clout people..if you want to see how good the other officers ride..look at them at nite time on rush st or michigan ave...oh wait..the nite team never ride thier horses..they sit in the truck or they dont go out and are back at home by 2100hrs. The clout babies are the ones that never hit the street...i tried out for the unit and was told sorry..well i know for a fact that they tried to black ball her out of the unit and when she beefed they put her thru hell...i will bet my next pay check..9161 pay for your D1 paycheck that she rides better than most..lets meet all of the officers that were dumped from the class and the members that are assigned to the mounted unit and she will ride better and prouder than most that dont ride but sits in the trucks, and the ones that never ride unless its a detail..want to bet ass hole..you should of left well enough alone..now lets see if the Lt.will make his nite team leave the barn and ride those horses that they get D1 pay to do..while im in the street getting fucked with everyday for patrolmens pay...
How about the Sgt. that sits by Soldier Field reading the paper in public view everday, Bt. 4830. He has 0 police assigned to him to supervise. Why is he there? He only writes parking tickets
The more important issue is........
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjLZCtlVu64
Word is also that if you are detailed anywhere you will be returned to the district you came from very soon by 15May! Unless of course you "got clout" then as always you get whatever you want! On another note anyone know about the new C.O at midway Leo's wife Ellen Schmitz? Good? Bad?
Another old loser who learned how to work a computer. Hi Pop. I remember you guys. You were the ones who created the atmosphere these younger coppers have to work in today. I remember walking to school right past your squad car at 8 AM, but of course you didn't see me because you were snoring. I remember when I got back from Vietnam you were my FTO and you had to stop at every bar on the beat so you could gobble down some liquid courage (remember those triple vodkas?) I remember a lot more, but I won't write it here because I know the press reads this blog. The young Chicago cops wearing the blue today are, in my humble opinion, the finest group of people I've seen ever wearing this badge. They're smart; they're dedicated; and they want to do a good job for this city. But they can't, because you "old street coppers" ruined it for them. You're sitting back fat, stupid, drunk and happy and they're paying the price. Daley isn't making their pension contributions, and what's in the pension fund is getting drained to his cronies. Richie's hired a dumbshit Fed cop wannabe to run the Department, but Jody's a Judas and a pathetic liar and wants to hang as many coppers as he can. And to make the fake reverends happy, he wants white coppers stripped the most. I talked to an FOP lawyer the other day. He said that EVERY ONE at the IPRA is black. That's fair? And, he says that they are stripping coppers left and right for anything they can think of. The so-called "investigators" are even coming up with charges of their own that violate the grievance process, so when you go to the IPRA, make sure your lawyer is paying attention.
To you Pop, I say go take your free medications and congratulate yourself for making these young people pay for your dereliction of duty.
4/25/2008 09:40:00 AM
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Vietnam? That was forty years ago, youngster.
TO OUR BROTHERS IN THE NYPD GREAT NEWS , NOT GUILTY, I ALWAYS HAD YOUR BACK AND SAID PRAYERS FOR YOU.
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GOD BLESS THE NYPD,
YOUR FRIEND FROM THE CPD 016 DISTRICT.
Weis proved that he knows Jack Shit about Police work, he said he was a huge fan of TRU. Maybe them elitist 5 car for one traffic stop usin morons should get out of the BDU's and get into a regular uniform. They aren't special, haven't met one yet that I thought was worth a damn.
4/25/2008 12:27:00 AM
What's the matter got tired of following tru on their lunches. You are like a deranged stalker. Do us a favor and STFU. You are about as annoying as the 222 dork. And I've met a poster that is not worth a damn until i met you. If the tru unit has 5 cops on a traffic stop so what at least they are backing each other up. What do you do when another cop has as traffic stop? You are probably that idiot that drives by doing 40 and doesn't even stop to see if the cop needs help. I hope you are not that moron and noby likes to back you up.
Yes!!! Finally the Mayor is calling in a summitt to adress the gang violence!!!
Whew!!!
Everyone knows a meeting with a bunch of opportunist Revs, elitist scholars and community leaders who have never set foot in the ghetto are historically the best way to fight the increase in violent crime!!!Mo
Money well spent....
The next summit that produces any concrete solutions will be the first one to do so....
A Great Idea, maybe? Hire back our P.O's at time and 1/2 overtime by seniority for Fridays, Saturdays, and Holidays for the summer. Work a 12 hr. power shift, just continue after your 8 hrs.already working, if O.T. approved. Only the busiest Districts and Areas to get the extra manpower, where most needed. Lets face it, we don't need extra cops riding around Lincoln Park on bicycles when the south side is going berserk. It would cost the City some money, but in the long run be cheaper to the taxpayers, as there would be NO need to hire and train additional inexperienced police recruits. Just do this during the busy Summer months, perhaps mid-May thru end of August. As long as it's done fairly, it could possibly improve morale a bit. Experienced P.O's for a few months on power shifts for overtime , as opposed to hiring , training, etc; new rookies who are costing the City too much. We don't need em when it's zero outside in winter, just beef up the right places at the right times, during the right months. Cheaper in the long run, and immediate experience and coverage in the right places. We alll could use a few extra bucks.
4/25/2008 08:43:00 AM
F@## that. I rather be at home watching a game and enjoying a nice cold high life and playing hide the chorizo with the wife. You can take my spot. I'm not coming in i have a life.
Really want to curb violence?
mandatory birth control shots to women in the ghetto under the age of 18...
make that 23
To you Pop, I say go take your free medications and congratulate yourself for making these young people pay for your dereliction of duty.
4/25/2008 09:40:00 AM
And pops thanx for the sumerdale scandal and you did teach us something clout rules the city. Pops get some blue pills and stay of this blog and go to xxx sites thats what i would do if i were retired. I would not want anything to do with police matters unless it affected my paycheck. Tell all your friends driving their pimped out Rascals.PEace.
T. Puentes, time to kiss some ass, and make the transfer out of 021. Oh,you'll make new house calls and backup no one at your new dictsirct. I'll reach out to your red head and console her once she knows. Mybe then i'll get those lunch specials at the lake
4/25/2008 07:55:00 AM
with a frothy milkshake! !
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To you Pop, I say go take your free medications and congratulate yourself for making these young people pay for your dereliction of duty.
4/25/2008 09:40:00 AM
Hey DICKHEAD, these kids today fucked up their own thing with the "what about me or where's mine
attitude". I have seen so called "coppers" cry when they got punched, run in a fight and have no sense of discipline or respect for command structure.
A comment like that kinda makes me wonder what you actually did in Nam.
Weis proved that he knows Jack Shit about Police work, he said he was a huge fan of TRU. Maybe them elitist 5 car for one traffic stop usin morons should get out of the BDU's and get into a regular uniform. They aren't special, haven't met one yet that I thought was worth a damn.
4/25/2008 12:27:00 AM
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WOW you must have a really small penis!
I was severely disappointed with Weiss. He is well spoken, but not truthful. He dodged important questions that were raised. Want to fix things...get us up to full strength, 13,500 sworn personnel. Quit going after coppers and focus on the real issues...LAW ENFORCEMENT! Quit using this Department as a political football. He Supe...take care of us...we will take care of you. Support us for the street stops, getting into these gang bangers territory, getting the guns...Zero Tolerance with 100 percent support from this Department, we'll get the job done. We live here too and want our neighborhoods patrolled so that these non contributing pieces of sh&t go where they belong...JAIL! Get rid of the FBI ties...don't threten us with them...they have their job to do...we have ours. Ours by far is more dangerous than anything that has ever happened to the Feds statistically. You want to see crime drop...untie our hands with threats and watch us do what we were born and bred to do...FIGHT CRIME! Instead of someone telling you what you want to hear...talk to your street coppers...we are and always have been the Real Police...forget the upper rank people...they forgot where they came from and climbed over hard working coppers back's to get where they are. I have Zero respect for them...they sold their souls and they, along with you, think they are better than us. I earned my scars, I worked my ass off in places you would never go. You can make a change, so far you are failing miserably as a manager. You are not better than us...stop threatening us and give us our DUE RESPECT!!!
CLASSIC! (Sean Bell verdict evokes angry reaction)
WE NEED TO BURN THIS CITY DOWN...DOWN TO THA GROUND!
Here we go again...Will the shockwaves hit Chicago?
http://www.yahoo.com/s/866174
HELICOPTERS AROUND THE CLOCK HAAA....
Anonymous said...
T. Puentes, time to kiss some ass, and make the transfer out of 021. Oh,you'll make new house calls and backup no one at your new dictsirct. I'll reach out to your red head and console her once she knows. Mybe then i'll get those lunch specials at the lake
4/25/2008 07:55:00 AM
Puentes is the problem! He cant assist anyone else, cant back anyone up, gives basbeall gifts to Lodding and Lodding kids, throws one into different gals in the district to get back at P.O.'s. But, his red head is getting a call today with names, and then that fine woman will be bringin me some lunch, and ill give her some desert - tasty! Moral of the story - be a better cop to your brothers and sisters, dont take advantige of your coworkes, or that hot little red head.
4/25/2008 09:40:00 AM
great post. this is beyond truth. old timers are the ones to blame for a huge part of what us new guys have to deal with.
TO: 4/25/2008 09:40:00 AM
Up your ass ! But may I say thanks for the $$$$ you put into my bank account on the first of every month . I have already drawn about $500,000 and it's you and yours that support me as I have ran out of my own $$$$ many years ago . So quit your bitching and when you look at your check stub in the box that reads pension just remember that it's all going to me. so go home and get your fuckin' shine box . MORON ! Also , We were the ones that got you a UNION ! even though it's not a union.But it's the best you have,so deal with it.
whoever gave j-fed that nickname deserves a million dollars or some shit
To the guy or gal who wrote about the "another old loser post" . He is exactly right! The old-timers on the job, and retired left us rookies with a completely messed up department. You can say we are not the real police, but thats because 1. they won't let us be 2. we don't know how, because the old-timers are willing to take time out to show us. I have seen some of these guys with their egos! They think that they were the real police the day they put the badge on, didn't have to learn from anyone. I have watched them try to pick up women (with no luck), bitch about their wives and ex-wives, whine about this and that. My main goal on this department is to not end up like these men. I was however lucky enough to train in a district where some of the old-timers did teach me, but most of these rookies coming out won't be as lucky as me. So I end with this, if you were or are a cop, who others regard as a "good police officer" then my hats off to you. If however you are someone who bitches, moans, dogs calls, talks about the hair gel police , and claims to be the "real police" then you my friend are part of the problem! The rookies did not contribute to the downfall of this department it was all the mornons who, and I love this " have time on the job"! Good Day!
When J-Fed comes to pick me up at the bar at 4AM could you ask him to bring one of his flunkies to drive my car home? Oh, can we also stop at Halsted and Jackson so I can get a gyro sandwich for breakfast? I'll buy.
Anonymous said...
those North-Siders should have t come out to Area 2 and 1 to work. Then they would know how it is to have to do 3 times the amount of work daily for the same pay as the North-Siders get. I'll police Wrigleyville or the Gold Coast, and they can police Roseland or Englewood for a few years, and see how it really is. Can you spell
C O M B A T P A Y ?
why??? cause you wanted to be a tough guy and work the ghetto? wanted to be the real police? ok hardass u got ur wish. so stay south and shut the fuck up.
To the south sider who thinks he is the real police. You would not enjoy the Gold Coast or Wrigleyville. When most of the citizens converse in a civilized manner. Yes, some of your 71st St. shitheads do wander up here once in a while but we actually lock them up unlike other parts of the city. If you would stop identifing with the gangbangers maybe you'll get some respect. Stop eating the fried chicken and waffles and get your mind right or you'll grow up like them.
Congrats NYPD Detectives!
Just listened to WLS interview.....what an idiot! We are doomed.....Jody says he only wears uniform at ceremonies? What about the leather jacket on TV...just a wannabe that makes a lot of money being Rich's bitch....
TO: 9:40 am,
My heart is bleeding for you kid. I would rather deal with a copper who wouldn't mind having a drink now and then as opposed to one who cannot finish his arrest at the end of the shift so he can be at the spa at 6am. Give me a guy who knows he street rather that one of those un-educated college boys or girls. Most of us older guys didn't have an uncle-daddy to get us on the job, get us a computer assignment at headquarters, and we didn't have baby showers in the POLICE STATION. Don't blame up for your shortcommings. I doubt if your whinning kind would have much effect if we had the King riots or the '68 convention all over again. What gave this police department its no non-sense reputition was those times. You say you were in Viet Nam. I thank you for serving, I think you guys did a great job in spite of your bosses. Well I have to go back and watch the Unsinkable Molly Brown and have another swig of geratol.
9:40 Am. Your just what I was writing about a blowhard that couldn't find his ass in a telephone booth. Educated! My MPA against your AA.
Chap 38 and the City Code are your Bibles ,and if you can't work within them no matter how much Ed. you have,you will be a loser and make excuses for not living up to your responsibilites. Serve and Protect.
Off Subject
Re: Media and our News Affairs,
Did anyone read todays Trib. Metro Sec. the small articles on page 3. There are two stories that are total bullshit. The guy who got stabbed by two attackers is a lie, the girl who was raped is bullshit, she was trying to get back at her lesbo girlfriend.
So much for truch in reporting or the "right on the money" reporting of news affairs.
Weis proved that he knows Jack Shit about Police work, he said he was a huge fan of TRU. Maybe them elitist 5 car for one traffic stop usin morons should get out of the BDU's and get into a regular uniform. They aren't special, haven't met one yet that I thought was worth a damn.
Who cares what you think...
those North-Siders should have t come out to Area 2 and 1 to work. Then they would know how it is to have to do 3 times the amount of work daily for the same pay as the North-Siders get. I'll police Wrigleyville or the Gold Coast, and they can police Roseland or Englewood for a few years, and see how it really is. Can you spell
C O M B A T P A Y ?
It's called seniority and sensibility, get some of each and you wont have to be there either, nobody told you to live in the cesspool that is the southside.
I didnt know that we as Chicago Police Officers had a union?
FOP is not a union.
4/25/2008 08:35:00 AM
Not you again! How many times to I have to slap the shit out of you? I'm tired of asking for examples of better paid or less disciplined big city departments because no one has ever taken up the challenge. So, I'll just insult you instead. First off, your retarded statement is not a question. No question mark was needed, bright light. Second, the contraction for "did not" is "didn't," fool. Go work somewhere else, loser. We don't want you.
If they get away with it, they will be coming for FOP next, of course the leadership of FOP will be asleep at the switch as usual.
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Asleep at the switch? You're a creep and a bitch.
Hey, that rhymes.
hey supercop 04/25/0940. we don't wear "badges", we wear a STAR. you've been watching way too much NYPD Blue! must have been a boss that wrote that. lol
The test? Oh that, well that was all on the level. Whats that? She gets take her pick of which horse to test on? So if the trainers or any bosses of the unit were removed from the process of determining this officers abilities then who had the final say so? Commander Franklin came and gave final approval of this officer's test.
No offense boss but you have exactly how much experience judging a person's riding ability?
Franklin of unit 141? What the f@#k does he know about that unit...Danas girl it figures!!!
NY is going to burn!
The 3 NY cops aquitted of all charges in the shooting death of that honor student and fiancee had their case heard via a bench trial. The judge had some guts and balls for doing the right thing.
I love when a thug has a bunch of welfare kids by a baby's momma and only after having a bunch of kids he becomes a fiancee when killed by the police. Ever hear of maybe marriage before breeding these kids?
And I love the liberal media saying, just because they are aquitted doesn't mean the Federal Government can't charge them. The press is never happy till even not guilty coppers end up in jail.
Nobody is gonna want to take, what is known as the shittiest job in the department! Sergeant!
I'm hitting the snooze button rather than take another stupid Sgt's test!
My health and lifestyle is far more important that the stripes!
The dept. can keep the stripes and stick it up their asses!
You know even if the city can transfer these Sgts. legitimately, there still is a little thing called common courtesy. A couple of the Sgts from TRU are coming from the Devon and Austin Area, and one has 27 years on the job. Another poster is right, if they can do it to them , whats stopping the city from doing it to you. We should all stick together on this one.
http://wlsam.1871dev.com/content/img/f46081/Jody_Weis_Part_1.mp3
Is there a going away party for owens from 006? 021 is getting a good Sgt 006 is losing one
I was on the 4floor at hdqts today and heard some idiot screaming. I asked some female who that was crying like a bitch and she said com alvarado he worried about he might be called to the summit meeting. She said yea like he would have any input. She said he was merit everything with 15 or 20 years on the job who was a member of the hispanic democratic organization.He sounded like a real TOOL to me.
Send the Surferboy back to 007.
Wait a minute, I've been a sergeant for fourteen years and still choose to work in an area two district. The question is why is there so many more assigned sergeants in other districts like 22 and the north side then in districts like 005 and 006. It's because clout babies have actually altered the amount of sergeants "assigned" to districts. If you don't want to work in a district like 007, 006, 005, then quit you sissy's. I'm sick and tired of not being able to take time due, still making the same as you, and you doing nothing while I WORK MY ASS OFF. Granted I choose to be where I am but that's because that's where I can do police work and work with some awesome police officers. Whats a shame is the PBBA, mostly clout babies themselves, have allowed this disparity in assignment numbers...
What the f---k happened? Us old street coppers passed the TORCH to you, and because you got a new BOSS you let the Torch go out.
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Another old loser who learned how to work a computer. Hi Pop. I remember you guys. You were the ones who created the atmosphere these younger coppers have to work in today.
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Oh no you didn't grasshopper..This job used to have men on it. Now we have a bunch of scared, pussy chasen, whinny babies, on this job. The old guys didn't cry, they faced unprecedented violence against the police, they faced the MLK riots, the 68 convention, were called Nazis and their reputation kept your young ass safe during the world cup and past Democratic convention here. So don't dis those guys son, they were real men which non of us can claim....
When J-Fed comes to pick me up at the bar at 4AM
**He'll pick you up and take you to the station to blow. Yea what a guy :(
Is there a going away party for owens from 006? 021 is getting a good Sgt 006 is losing one
everybody in 006 already had a party for sgt. owens, no one bothered to invite Owens though. good luck in 021 you won't be missed in 006
To the south sider who thinks he is the real police. You would not enjoy the Gold Coast or Wrigleyville. When most of the citizens converse in a civilized manner. Yes, some of your 71st St. shitheads do wander up here once in a while but we actually lock them up unlike other parts of the city. If you would stop identifing with the gangbangers maybe you'll get some respect. Stop eating the fried chicken and waffles and get your mind right or you'll grow up like them.
TO: 9:40 am,
My heart is bleeding for you kid. I would rather deal with a copper who wouldn't mind having a drink now and then as opposed to one who cannot finish his arrest at the end of the shift so he can be at the spa at 6am. Give me a guy who knows he street rather that one of those un-educated college boys or girls. Most of us older guys didn't have an uncle-daddy to get us on the job, get us a computer assignment at headquarters, and we didn't have baby showers in the POLICE STATION. Don't blame up for your shortcommings. I doubt if your whinning kind would have much effect if we had the King riots or the '68 convention all over again. What gave this police department its no non-sense reputition was those times. You say you were in Viet Nam. I thank you for serving, I think you guys did a great job in spite of your bosses. Well I have to go back and watch the Unsinkable Molly Brown and have another swig of geratol.
4/25/2008 02:15:00 PM
Is there a going away party for owens from 006? 021 is getting a good Sgt 006 is losing one
4/25/2008 04:26:00 PM
Nice post Doty, I didn't think you read the blog...
"Can you spell
C O M B A T P A Y ?"
Can you spell,
W H I N Y M O R O N?
Tru vs. beat officers
Tru vs. tact vs. beat officers
units vs. patrol
northside sgts vs. southside sgts
Holy Shit!!!!!! We are and always will be our own worst enemy!!!!
how do you expect your unions, associations, whatever, to do what is best for you when you can't agree what is best for yourselves? Your fop, pbpa, etc... puts something up for a vote or has a meeting how many vote or show up, the numbers are pathetic, but the some of the same people who don't participate sit here and bitch on this blog about how bad things are, or say oh poor mike mette, but would never think about writing him a letter or going to see him... In the immortal words of "rodney king", "can't we all just get along"?
I was glad to see that a bunch of old timers decided to ring in on this one. You young boys will never know what it's like to draw a pension check , you all worry to much . Especially 09:40:00 , You are a true MORON !!!!!!
Anonymous said...
Is there a going away party for owens from 006? 021 is getting a good Sgt 006 is losing one
4/25/2008 04:26:00 PM
Nice try you baiting dumbass......nice try.
Off topic, but I'm wondering if there's been any news on the Mike Mette case (good news, I hope)
Thanks.
Katey
Is there a going away party for owens from 006? 021 is getting a good Sgt 006 is losing one
4/25/2008 04:26:00 PM
Ha Ha Ha Ha! Good one, Milt!
"...some of your 71st steet assholes come down here but we lock them up..."
Are you serious? I have seen more semi-human garbage wandering around Wrigley Field during a Cubs game with no 023/019 to be found. They come down there because you naive north siders give them things.
Besides, we know how scary it is for you to come south. I can hear your knees knocking.
Wait a minute, I've been a sergeant for fourteen years and still choose to work in an area two district. The question is why is there so many more assigned sergeants in other districts like 22 and the north side then in districts like 005 and 006. It's because clout babies have actually altered the amount of sergeants "assigned" to districts. If you don't want to work in a district like 007, 006, 005, then quit you sissy's. I'm sick and tired of not being able to take time due, still making the same as you, and you doing nothing while I WORK MY ASS OFF. Granted I choose to be where I am but that's because that's where I can do police work and work with some awesome police officers. Whats a shame is the PBBA, mostly clout babies themselves, have allowed this disparity in assignment numbers...
4/25/2008 04:45:00 PM
HEY JAGBALLS! Your theory of fudging the numbers is asinine! When a Sgt's class is made, most every district is then fully staffed. The problem is that those with clout do their 2 or 3 periods in the district, then use their juice to get out. The reason 022 has not had as many defections is because it's not a bad place to work and close to home for many. The rest of us in 022 get screwed because throughout the last 5 months, the incompetents at A/2 (see Tina Skahill), felt it was right to take 12 of 022's Sgt's and detail them to other districts in A/2. Bottom line: 022 has more supervisory manpower because most choose to stay here because is not a complete shit-hole with jagoff bosses!
BE SAFE and BACK EACH OTHER UP!!
Score a huge win for law eonforcement today.
New York detectives acquitted in 50-bullet shooting of groom.
FUCK FAT AL Sharpton,God Bless the NYPD!!!
4/25/2008 10:21:00 AM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Would have never happened in this city. The judge would have had strict orders from Daley to find all three guilty.
Don't blame the old timers. Blame management. When shit happens in the corporate world, they do major re-structuring with management to do the big "turn-around". We have to get rid of Daley, incompetent ASA's and judges and all the politcal do-nothing hacks on this job to get a major turn-around.
Ummm, I don't know about you but I really don't care about the sgts. or where they go....
WOOOOO HOOOOOOOOO!! OHare airports first night w/o Gonzo was GREAT!!!
THE BAD THING ABOUT BEING A WHIYE SHIRT IS THAT YOU CAN BE MOVED ANY TIME BC U ARE PART OF MANAGEMENT. BOTTOM LINE IS THAT LESS SENIOR WHITE SHIRTS ARE GONNA GET MOVED LIKE IT OR NOT. IF THEY START MOVING THE POLICE, ITS GONNA HAVE TO BE ALL THE PPO'S AND PEOPLE THAT ARE ON MANAGEMENT PICK TO A WATCH OR A DIST. CLOUT ASSES WATCH OUT FOR YOU TO BE MOVED FIRST BECAUSE IF THEY MOVE A PO THAT WAS A BID, A GRIEVANCE, IF MANY GET MOVED A LAWSUIT FOR VIOLATION OF CONTRACTS. AND I DONT THINK THE CITY WANTS THAT RIGHT NOW.
Mayor Michael Bloomberg issued a statement saying, "An innocent man lost his life, a bride lost her groom, two daughters lost their father, and a mother and a father lost their son. No verdict could ever end the grief that those who knew and loved Sean Bell suffer."
However, he said, the legal system must be respected.
"America is a nation of laws, and though not everyone will agree with the verdicts and opinions issued by the courts, we accept their authority."
He must be friends with our mayor
ALL THE AREA GANG TEAMS GOING TO BIG WEAPONS TRAINING. IF THEY HAVE TO TAKE ALL THE TESTS THAT SWAT TOOK, THEN THEY BETTER GRIEVE THE PAY AND GET WAT SWAT IS COMING TO THEM. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
the solution to decrease the violence and make this city a safer place is easy.
go back to the old ways. let the police be the police.
well......the good citizens of chicago are getting what they asked for.
Wait a minute, I've been a sergeant for fourteen years and still choose to work in an area two district. The question is why is there so many more assigned sergeants in other districts like 22 and the north side then in districts like 005 and 006. It's because clout babies have actually altered the amount of sergeants "assigned" to districts. If you don't want to work in a district like 007, 006, 005, then quit you sissy's. I'm sick and tired of not being able to take time due, still making the same as you, and you doing nothing while I WORK MY ASS OFF. Granted I choose to be where I am but that's because that's where I can do police work and work with some awesome police officers. Whats a shame is the PBBA, mostly clout babies themselves, have allowed this disparity in assignment numbers...
Quit crying, you choose to stay in those shitholes, bid out or deal with no time due; by the way, you are suppose to supervise not do police work.
did anyone see al sharpton press conference.
in it he made a comment, that the five officers involved should be shot. yes he did try to correct himself, but the response from the others at the mtg and al himself, were outrageous.
al your just a ghetto boy in a suit.
Anyone who was in Viet Nam has to be at least 55 years old. The last draft lottery was for those born in 1953, and it only went up to #12. So to the stroke who said "when I got back from Nam" please get psychological help as soon as possible because you are going to need years of therapy.
On merit promotion:
JFed made a comment about the merits, like it is "only 30%". He gave an example that if 100 Sgts were promoted "only 30" would be merit. Well that "only 30" and that "only 15" from the the last promotions equals "only 45".
Example, if you were 250 on the list, 75 "merits" slide ahead of you...that means a lot in time waiting to finally make it, losses in seniority, financial losses, etc.
I hope the Super realizes how unfair this 30% is. They should trash the whole merit system and declare that X amount will be promoted first straight off the list.
Who says that "merit" is better than you when you scored a decent score? JFed defended those who can't test well. Well then study the material, take courses on how to test better. The subject matter is rocket science. I can't tell you how many "clout" folks took the first portion (pass/fail) and didn't study or show up for the 2nd half, the half that really counts, cause they knew that they were going to make it merit.
Also, there are some people on this job who have had 3- 4 merit bites their entire career. A few recently made Cmdr. That is a slap in the face to anyone who studied hard and never made it because of the 30% merit stole their promotion.
The entire merit system stinks and is a morale-buster. There is absolutely NO transparency to it. Who says one person is better meritoriously than another... why not put everyone in meritoriously? Give everyone a shot at it. That's the only fair way to do it, but obviously it would be very time consuming and of course there would have to be certain criteria met to be finally be considered. And who would be doing that "considering'?? 'cause there is always that "phone call" from an alderman or some political hot-shot who will get their person in one way or the other to that group who "considers" the merits.
The Shakman decree should declare the merit system a bust and get rid of it before a bunch of people get a creative lawyer a sue the shit out of the city for back-pay, seniority and benefits.
Anonymous said...
T. Puentes, time to kiss some ass, and make the transfer out of 021.
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Hey arent you the same piece of shit who said he went to HQ?
Then when you were wrong about that, you said he went with Commander Martinez to 014? Of course you were wrong about that, but you still continue to "Hate"?
Wow! Obviouisly you have no police or investigative skills. Stick with the "Mine Sweep" game on your computer. You'll have a better chance predicting how well you do there instead of worrying about someone else.
Obviously all that suck assin/backstabbin you've been doing hasnt gotten you anywhere. Quit fuckin with working cops, and worry about yourself.
He's a good copper. And I guarantee you wouldnt talk shit to his face. He currently works 2nd Watch (on bid), 7-3; you can meet up with him anytime. He usually parks his personal vehicle in the lot.
If your too frightened to confront him and tell him how you really feel, Send your boyfriend.
It's bitter internet copper trolls like yourself who flood this site with unecessary bullshit that make SCC a dumping ground for it.
Just to let you know,i called J_FED to pick me up after 10Hrs of drinking..His phone went to voice mail..and im still here.Can anyone call me a cab,i lost my keys and i need a ride.I would walk,but thier are too many killings and not enough police n the street.cooter said hey
Oh no you didn't grasshopper..This job used to have men on it. Now we have a bunch of scared, pussy chasen, whinny babies, on this job. The old guys didn't cry, they faced unprecedented violence against the police, they faced the MLK riots, the 68 convention, were called Nazis and their reputation kept your young ass safe during the world cup and past Democratic convention here. So don't dis those guys son, they were real men which non of us can claim....
4/25/2008 04:51:00 PM
please, with your mundane lectures. admit your mistakes from the past. we'll keep paying your pension, so i'd stop with the talking/typing if i were you.
just saw Lubberman on tv, blabbering on about something or another....caught my eye, he was wearing a CTA construction helmet....very fashionable! reminded me of the music video for the song Y-M-C-A; maybe the CPD should go to helmets for the summer....very macho....
2.5 years and counting. CAN"T wait to etire and get the hell out of this city.
4/25/2008 02:15:00 AM
Just leave now and save yourself a lot of grief....
"To you Pop, I say go take your free medications and congratulate yourself for making these young people pay for your dereliction of duty."
Like young Jerome Finnegan and Abate didn't do any damage-you goof! Read a paper!
The union was called on this matter and stated that there was no contract violation--If you are in a management position--even if you are assigned somewhere, they can reassign you to another district, if manpower is an issue and in area 2--3,5,6 were all down on sgts.---hence the transfers
The young Chicago cops wearing the blue today are, in my humble opinion, the finest group of people I've seen ever wearing this badge.
Sure you were in Vietnam, Who the fuck you think your talking to mister. I'm a Vietnam vet and will tell you how full of shit you are. The new Police are the scared police. They don't have a clue how to do the job. Understand something I have no problem with them bitching about the bosses or the job because they are right! this job sucks.loaded with juice and the birth right. What I'm talking about is basic police work even report writing is lacking. sorry it is what it is mister.
to the douche bag talkin about the vans on the expressways....these are not new...they were on the dan ryan for 2 years during that construction....they are real, i know cause i got a ticket via certified mail....375.00 + 60.00 court costs for a 1st time offender going 58 in 45mph work zone...ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and a mandatory court appearance in rolling meadows
"Happy Birthday to Bill Nolan,FOP #7 Past President!!!"
Yea..happy birthday to a guy who stole from you and the FOP gave some lame excuse not to prosecute him because the feds would have to see the books. And another thing, the charity Nolan is now in charge of better keep an eye on the books. This guy is a thief.
From David Snethen
To the whiney little fella that says the old guys never taught him anything and handed him into a fucked up department. Your pissed off because the old guys didnt teach you anything, who do you think taught them? When I first went to 010 they threw me a set of keys and said "go get em kid". It was nights (3rd wtch) and I was all by my lonesome. Had to learn the job by doing it, noone wanted to work with new guys. All the education thats running around out there I would think that you would learn to work smart. Dont blame the old guys for you not doing what your supposed to do. I can see why there isnt much on view stuff being done and thats ok, as long as no citizen gets hurt because you have your blinders on. I'm not going to question whether you are a Vietnam veteran or even if you are really on the job but, man up, grow a set and take responsibility for what you do. Dont look around for someone to blame. Thats what the bosses do. I wouldnt want to work under the conditions that exist now, the mayor, the feeb and the exempts all running scared. You're supposed to be the police, act like it.
Why you should use your only use your cellphone off duty. http://www.wnbc.com/news/15992600/
detail.html?dl=headlineclick
Crime happens because TRU is not there.
J-Fed also said on Roe Conn that most of the information he receives is filtered. Who do you suppose does this "filtering"? My guess is it's the same knuckleheads who have helped him screw up the department thus far. I wasn't the biggest fat Phil fan but at least he had some idea of the workings of the police department. J-Fed has no clue and any feedback he receives is filtered. If he doesn't quit I fear we're in for a long 3 years under him. I've been on 20 + years and morale is as low now as I've ever seen it before. J-Fed and little Richie have screwed this thing up pretty good already.
I'm listening to the podcast of the Weis interview with Roe Cohn. The first caller is John and he asked about merit promotions. Was this John Northern? I noticed how you were cut off and was not able to respond. Otherwise J-Fed just blew smoke up Roes A$$. Which was hard Because Roe spent the show Blowing him.
off topic -
If you're in the Clearing area, watch yourselves/kids on the streets. About 9:20pm I was heading home from picking up carry-out food and going eastbound 63rd St. I was right around Major when a newer model (looked like) a Pontiac Bonneville (?) wine -colored pulled up right by me!! White male, chubby, mid-50's, strawberry-blonde puffy mustache in need of a major trim, wearing a red baseball hat asked if I needed a ride. I ignored him, and kept walking.
He tells me "to be safe" then speeds up ahead of me, pulls into the hotdog joint next to the Family Dollar, goes around Jack Robbins, just sits in the lot blocking my sidewalk and just stares at me. I stopped, took out my cell phone and glared at him. He sat for a moment, then took off westbound 63rd St.
The real bitch of it is that I saw a CPD on a traffic stop right by my home when I left to walk & get my food only they were gone of course when I got back. Spread the word around if you're in thsi area. thanx
What a bunch of whining bitches you mounted unit guys are. A deputy supt. allowed the rider to re-test. A commander and your own lt. attended the riding test. The girl did good...some of us watched from a ways out with binocs (we were told none of us could attend the re-test, so we weren't visible). She rode well, the boss and the lt. said she passed. End of story. When it came time to ride, she rode, and she did a good job. Shut up and move on, or transfer out and get a REAL JOB in the CPD. Either way, you'll only do your whining here. The people who decided she passed will never hear your opinion, and none of you whiners will ever speak your mind about it to either of them.
By the way, here are some legitimate things you can whine about:
1) no contract
2) rise in violent crime
3) the supt. appears lost
4) there is no plan to deal with it
5) a lousy fleet of cars
6) an even lousier stockpile of PDTs
7) too many of us afraid to make a decision
8) an IAD too quick to judge us guilty first, and strip us
9) a city too quick to settle "nuisance" suits
10) punitive damage awards on the rise
And all you whiners want to spout about here is a bunch of petty b/s concerning a woman on a horse???
The real bitch of it is that I saw a CPD on a traffic stop right by my home when I left to walk & get my food only they were gone of course when I got back. Spread the word around if you're in thsi area. thanx
You got it. I'll spread the word to everyone I know, wow, that is unbelievable that that happened. Can you imagine that, a car on a traffic stop west of Austin, unreal! I'll spread the word.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
a 015th district sergeant said...
NOPE,
These bitches ain't getting nothing past us.
P.S. Kiss my fat white ass WYSINGER
Thank you Sgt Linnane for your frankness. Now maybe you might try actually working for a change instead of hiding. Maybe then the next commander won't call you out. By the way you left out "Lazy" in your P.S.
4/25/2008 11:42:00 AM
Thats fuckin hilarious. I was thinkin the same exact thing.
Oh no you didn't grasshopper.
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How many of them were successfully sued or locked up for their actions? How mant people on the street had camera phones recording their every move? Today AIN'T like it was years ago and we want to enjoy retirement too. If some retired copper can't get that then he can go fuck himself!
I was glad to see that a bunch of old timers decided to ring in on this one. You young boys will never know what it's like to draw a pension check , you all worry to much . Especially 09:40:00 , You are a true MORON !!!!!!
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I hope during my retirement after 20+ years of service I have better things to do than read the SCC Blog. (No offense SCC) You guys must be some real miserable losers if your only concern is what the guys on the job today are bitchin about. Go pop a viagra and jerk it to the sears catalog like you did back in the day.
Oh no you didn't grasshopper..This job used to have men on it. Now we have a bunch of scared, pussy chasen, whinny babies, on this job. The old guys didn't cry, they faced unprecedented violence against the police, they faced the MLK riots, the 68 convention, were called Nazis and their reputation kept your young ass safe during the world cup and past Democratic convention here. So don't dis those guys son, they were real men which non of us can claim....
Yeah, and they were told by a certain mayor to shoot to kill (maim and cripple looters) and were able to knock a criminal's teeth out of their head and not get a CR # let alone sued. Today if you look at a criminal crosseyed you hope all you get is a couple days off and not fired or sued because the honor student with a 20 page rap sheet claimed you were "unprofessional" or because you had a couple of beers on your day off and may be "intoxicated" off duty.
So maybe you can't claim to be a real man but I don't think you're qualified to make that assumption about everyone else on the job. These people are whining because they're hands are tied and they can't do the job they WANT to do or signed on to do. Do we have some pussy cops in today's day and age? Yes we do, but there are far more good ones that just can't be the police because their hands are tied. And the pussy cops are just a product of this current "nice police" environment which means there will be alot more of them in the future if we continue to head down this self destructive path of not letting the police be the police.
Oh and just for the record I don't believe that the old timers had anything to do with the current state of things. This mess was brought on by the politicians, media, ignorant citizens, incompetent judges, and liberals.
In the old days, we did not get paid for overtime, we got transfered whenever "they" felt like it, you all heard this B.S. before. So we worked and worked and finely got a union, thanks to guys like Danny Green RIP and Mayor Jayne Byrne. Now you'r loosing it all. Proof? How many voted in the last FOP election. less that 35%. Over 85% of us retired guys voted. Wake UP!
20 years ago a boss could mess with you just becasue. Seems nothing changed. Why are they messing with the sgt. from 018. Twice he was going to 003 and the third order recinded the move. Whats up?
those North-Siders should have t come out to Area 2 and 1 to work. Then they would know how it is to have to do 3 times the amount of work daily for the same pay as the North-Siders get.
Boo Hoo, you should pay our home prices and tax bills.
Jody likes TRU because he doesnt know what to do about the violence. And TRU is a great smoke screen. The BDU's and all....
Meanwhile, the dist. 99 units are vulnerable, but they dont stand out in the BDU's. Is that the next uniform we will see him in?
those North-Siders should have t come out to Area 2 and 1 to work. Then they would know how it is to have to do 3 times the amount of work daily for the same pay as the North-Siders get. I'll police Wrigleyville or the Gold Coast, and they can police Roseland or Englewood for a few years, and see how it really is. Can you spell
C O M B A T P A Y
Can you say "PAR Form"?
I was right around Major when a newer model (looked like) a Pontiac Bonneville (?) wine -colored pulled up right by me!! White male, chubby, mid-50's, strawberry-blonde puffy mustache in need of a major trim, wearing a red baseball hat asked if I needed a ride. I ignored him, and kept walking.
Be careful out there, Renee.
Wondering if you could fill me in on any news with what's going on with Mike Mette. I'm keeping him in my thoughts and prayers and hoping for the best.
I just overheard a good one. Long gun / rifle program for patrol. Old surplus M16's, officers with 15yrs plus and 90% ratings (?) [thats what I could hear], and you must seek outside training, outside accredited range usage on your own, and own ammo. I'd like to see this order written out. I'll look for the rough drafts in the garbage near the copier......
4/25/2008 11:39:00 AM
"Old surplus M16's"?? No thanks!
Do you know what happens to a weapon after many thousands of rounds are fired through them? They are the firearms equivalent of a crack whore's twat. Loose and nasty
The Keesing Bandit says---
I saw Ronnie in that hardhat also. I couldn't catch my breath.
Now, kees me you fool!!!
IM SURE THE "FLOP" WILL JUST SIT BACK AND WATCH....NO BALLS!
To the person inquiring about Leo's(Rick Flair) wife Ellen Schmitz:
I'm not saying anything good or bad but I will say she usually doesn't work an 8 hour day. She much prefers the 4 to 6 hour day.
Im Drunk.......Anyone got J-feds phone # I need a ride..........Im at the Redwood bar
10:45 PM ("theHat")
Yes. Your assessment is correct.
Also, at 10:12 PM, David "The Oracle" Snethen makes an excellent point. I had better luck. My "old school" brothers in Fillmo' taught this college boy a whole lot of shit.
Hey, Dave. Make mine sausage, pepperoni and mushrooms only. Hold the hollow-points.
If you're on vacation, pass on my order to "Pizza Man" Farrell.
After listening to the blather spewed by Mr. Weis on the Roe Conn show, and in particular, the merit promotions process – I offer the following:
Merit Promotions – listed below is but one of many “exemplary command choices” (snicker-snicker) that Mr. Weis must answer for.
The 002nd District now has a Commander who had exactly 1 yr and two months of experience as a Lt. under her ample belt before being elevated to command rank. Of those 14 months she spent 5 in the Personnel Division developing the tests that we as “unwashed peasants” must take to get promoted. Commander Lewis seems to have bypassed that inconvenient part of the process through her years of meritorious performance. Prior to her appointment to Lt. she worked “under Dana” in the 1st Deputy Superintendent's Office. One of her first moves was to replace the Tact Lt. with Anthony Carothers - brother of Mayor Daley's staunch ally Alderman Ike Carothers. Lt. Carothers is such a “man amongst men” that he was promoted meritoriously to Sgt. and miraculously again to Lt. through the merit selection process. Lt. Carothers field experience lies in the 6 months he spent in the 008th District and his years of supervising the Cadet Program.
Mr. Weis, the above captioned post proves that you are just another political tool of the Mayor. I guess incompetence loves company. Neither of these officers has the necessary experience to be placed in command positions. Throw in Lillie Crump-Hales of the lost cell phone disaster and you have a triple play that would end any ballgame. To bad it’s our game you are trying to end.
Jody no matter how much BS you spread not one of us "grunts" will ever offer you any true respect. You claimed you want to make the merit selection process “transparent.” Well Mr. Weis we all know that candidates for merit selection must still be nominated by an exempt member. Your transparency initiatives will sure take the “clout” out of the process. YEAH RIGHT!!!
Next week at St. Judes I will march for the memory of those who paid the ultimate sacrifice. However, when the command "eyes left" is given I will stare straight ahead and extend the middle finger of both of my hands in a gesture of disgust for you, your boss, and your hand picked command staff (all except Young Tom Bryne – he’s actually a nice kid and a good boss).
You dishonor the uniform and in your short tenure with the Department you have managed to disgrace the position of Superintendent more than your predecessor. LEAVE before you take our beloved department further into disarray.
I hope during my retirement after 20+ years of service I have better things to do than read the SCC Blog. (No offense SCC) You guys must be some real miserable losers if your only concern is what the guys on the job today are bitchin about. Go pop a viagra and jerk it to the sears catalog like you did back in the day.
4/26/2008 12:07:00 AM
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I'm not retired yet (I'm getting there), but I agree with this guy 100 percent. You guys need to stop bitching about each other. You only prove that there are "rats" on the job, and there are a lot of you.
"These guys got a longer lunch than me, wah! I'm gonna cry like a bitch" You probably are a Generation-X'er that came on the job after the college requirement was put in place.
It's too bad mom and pop aren't here to take care of your whining ass. Grow up and act like a man (or woman). I can only guess that most you jack asses are barely off probabtion (I'll give you five yeas otj even) and the only way you get your reassurance of your man hood is to come on this site and find another (loser) officer that will bitch about his fellow offer's "just like you".
Get a life.
those North-Siders should have t come out to Area 2 and 1 to work. Then they would know how it is to have to do 3 times the amount of work daily for the same pay as the North-Siders get. I'll police Wrigleyville or the Gold Coast, and they can police Roseland or Englewood for a few years, and see how it really is. Can you spell
C O M B A T P A Y ?
Blather like that is what Jodi and Ritchie are counting on.
This is exactly the type of thinking that keeps us divided, fragmented and weak.
The real issue here is that the city is violating the sgt's contract and they will be coming for us next.
Anonymous said...
The Keesing Bandit says---
I saw Ronnie in that hardhat also. I couldn't catch my breath.
Now, kees me you fool!!!
4/26/2008 07:39:00 AM
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Dude. Stop it! I'm laughing so hard it hurts.
Anonymous said...
those North-Siders should have t come out to Area 2 and 1 to work. Then they would know how it is to have to do 3 times the amount of work daily for the same pay as the North-Siders get. I'll police Wrigleyville or the Gold Coast, and they can police Roseland or Englewood for a few years, and see how it really is. Can you spell
C O M B A T P A Y ?
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If you Jack Asses in Area's 1 & 2 were doing your job those south side district's wouldn't keep getting worse. District's 8 & 22 were never as bad as they are now. Now they are going to shit. I guess you jerk-off's can now brag that you work in a ghetto district just like the rookies in 011 & 015 do. I'll keep my north side district and take pride working in the area where I live. You can just
complain about outside units and let the shit continue to move into your districts.
Anonymous said...
In the old days, we did not get paid for overtime, we got transfered whenever "they" felt like it, you all heard this B.S. before. So we worked and worked and finely got a union, thanks to guys like Danny Green RIP and Mayor Jayne Byrne. Now you'r loosing it all. Proof? How many voted in the last FOP election. less that 35%. Over 85% of us retired guys voted. Wake UP!
4/26/2008 01:25:00 AM
I ony have 15yrs. but true, true, true. More of us need to get involved and vote these asswipes out and do not think that just because we get a pay raise, that everything is good......
ow do you expect your unions, associations, whatever, to do what is best for you when you can't agree what is best for yourselves? Your fop, pbpa, etc... puts something up for a vote or has a meeting how many vote or show up, the numbers are pathetic, but the some of the same people who don't participate sit here and bitch on this blog about how bad things are, or say oh poor mike mette, but would never think about writing him a letter or going to see him... In the immortal words of "rodney king", "can't we all just get along"?
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No we never will. As long as there are guys who are satisfied with letting others do their work, carry the load, there will be strife...
HEY JAGBALLS! Your theory of fudging the numbers is asinine! When a Sgt's class is made, most every district is then fully staffed.
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Sorry brother but I think you're wrong. Now I admit, I've not worked the office so I don't know for sure but the last time I had a discussion with someone who should know, 006 had the lowest number of sgt's slots. Maybe it was misstated but that's what i was told. But even if I'm wrong, why is it some new sgt should be allowed to move out of a district, leaving them short of even the bid positions filled, to go to another place over flowing with sergeants. There is no way you can say it's legit...PBBA shame on you but then you're mostly connected guys so why should you care what's going on in a place like 006, 005.....
How many of them were successfully sued or locked up for their actions? How mant people on the street had camera phones recording their every move? Today AIN'T like it was years ago and we want to enjoy retirement too. If some retired copper can't get that then he can go fuck himself!
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Sorry, don't have those numbers handy but if you go look at the star case at headquarters you can see how they were getting gun downed like nothing we've ever experienced...And one other correction, you were right, there are men on this job. All those who've served in the military during this or any past war....
Anonymous said...
20 years ago a boss could mess with you just becasue. Seems nothing changed. Why are they messing with the sgt. from 018. Twice he was going to 003 and the third order recinded the move. Whats up?
4/26/2008 01:47:00 AM
must be you sgt. bananaskevitz, here ill give you a hint why they fuck with you. because you are a COMPLETE ASS!!!! you have fucked up in every district youve been in. have you tackled any victims lately???? MORON
We will soon see if Dana's girl can handle a horse. Watch your toes!
NOPE,
These bitches ain't getting nothing past us.
P.S. Kiss my fat white ass WYSINGER
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Thank you Sgt Linnane for your frankness . . .
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Wrong guess. Let's just say I hope "his arrogance" does not shit on his new command when they don’t move FAST enough to drop everything (police work) to go wash his car.
Dave Sneathen had balls!
academy with wysinger way back when; he's now a fucking company man;;; fuck him
I was in grammar school when Daley Sr. said "shoot to kill", now I'm retired. My old man was CFD then, now deceased for quite a few years of natural causes. Someone needs to get their time line straight God I'm old. So what if I want to read SCC while I'm retired? If you're not a supv, quit telling me what to do asshat.
Byrne is very tight with the mayor, he just also happens to be a good policeman. Used to be when someone "made you" you did the best job you could and tried to make the person that "made you" look good. You shut up about it and kept your mouth shut. Nowadays seems like folks just want to brag about who made them and yap that they don't have to do any work. Makes whoever "made them" look like a real asshole. I call it "The stroger" or "Fifth Floor" syndrome now. what piece's of work those loser's are.
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