Saturday, May 03, 2008

Father Nangle vs SCC

The Chaplin does us the honor of writing a rather largish article in the May 08 FOP Newsletter mentioning the blog quite prominently in the title and the page-and-a-half essay:
  • Enter the second city cop blog. The first time I visited it, I found it exhilarating. The writers were hitting the nail right on the head. They were aware of the issues, and I admired their writing style. They were identifying some of the institution's problems, they knew where the slippage was, they knew police officers' pains, and they wanted to make improvements.
Thanks Padre. We appreciate that you gleaned what we were trying to accomplish here.

The article doesn't pull any punches, but it misses a point we've made since day one:
  • Then I hit the "comments" button. There was some great police humor there, and there were million dollar insights that only could come from the real police. But there were snipers and haters and character defilers, and I was ashamed inside myself to think these were "my people." I've never once been ashamed of my department or my people, but then I'd never hit the "comments" button before.
This is, and always has been a public board. It isn't always police here, though a sizable number are, in fact, police. Much of our traffic, upwards of 40%, is from outside Chicago. Some of it is retired guys, much of it isn't. We can't and don't intend to prove that anyone who posts here is CPD, because the minute that happens, the mayor, the press, the politicians and the bosses are going to be on someone's ass for something.

It's a decent read and the Father makes some good points. When we began, we let this site run unattended 23 hours a day and the filth that people posted was a thousand times worse than what you read here today. When we spent more time censoring than enjoying, we put the current moderated comments into effect. We still take out comments daily that delve into racial degradation, sexual politics, gratuitous baiting of all types and ad hominem attacks. But we aren't going to just shut down the comments and feedback because someone wants to point out the rank hypocrisy that permeates so much of this job.

We do the best with what we've got and we're juggling a lot more than just blogging on this end.

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94 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

i totally agree with Fr. Nangle 1000%. yes, there is no proof that everyone who posts on this blog is the police. but a great deal of "us" are. the comment section has turned into a gigantic bathroom wall and for that reason, i don't read the comments anymore. i may post, like this, but i don't go back to read the comments. it makes me ashamed to be a police officer when i read comments bashing TRU or others. the ignorance that many spew is just astronomical. unfortunately, those comments that are humorous are just too few and far between to make the comments worthwhile.

5/03/2008 12:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Burger Wilke - quit talking shit. Ginger ain't gonna make you SGT this time Joe!

5/03/2008 12:21:00 AM  
Blogger Westcide Dog said...

I think the Keesing Bandit got to the good Padre.

5/03/2008 01:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

scc, i have to agree with father nangle. this is a great tool for spreading information but the back stabbing and naming people is in poor taste. if you have a problem with someone why not go to the person and tell them instead of holding it in and posting here. we can all take a good ribbing once in awhile, but some of the things i have read here are unbelievable.

5/03/2008 01:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sometimes the truth ain't pretty !
that's a big part of what is wrong with this dept. and country.....courage to face the TRUTH.

5/03/2008 02:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Father Nangle, this blog is what it is . More then 1 fat ass boss has been exposed for what he is on this Blog. There are many coppers who aren't brave enough to confront the assholes face to face. We all know that clout helps along with a bunch of ass kissing. Instead of attacking the unbrave's only means of defense, come out and back up the cloutless non ass kissing coppers. Every district has a copper or 2 that stand up to the jerk off bosses and what do the rest of the coppers do? Nothng! We don't have much of a union, but it's the only union we have. Instead of kissing some jag off sgt's ass stick together. Who knows next week the sgt may be sticking it in your ass.

5/03/2008 04:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Father Nagle is the BEST!!!! Always there for the police. He always has had our backs and always will. We are his flock.

5/03/2008 07:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree 100% with Father Nangle. I had to stop reading the comments because, as a civilian, it gave me a very bad impression of the CPD and you begin to believe all the media hype. However, I do believe that those who defame others on this site, use this forum as their personal latrine and post things they wouldn't have the balls to say to someone's face, represent a small fraction of the troops.

5/03/2008 07:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ohh, shit . . .
we're all goin to hell

5/03/2008 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wouldn't term the article "Father Nangle vs. SCC." More like, "Father Nangle shows SCC for what it truly is." I'm sure the people that put this blog together had lofty goals, but what gets posted here, even with so-called "censoring," really shows us to be the paranoid, violent race-baiting fools the public usually takes us for.

5/03/2008 07:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear SCC,

I'm one of those retired out of state guys. Flawida is great, if you've managed to accept "slowing down, watching the world go by." My kid is on the job, and I enjoy keeping up with current issues. I agree with Fr. Nangle, and have met him many times over the years, and he has EARNED my respect.

Flip side is, I also believe that SCC serves a purpose. Serious issues are brought to light by SCC. I really hope it isn't one guy doing this all on his own. There aren't enough hours in the day, as you know, better than me. Humor and wit accompany so much, that as police officers, we know, takes the sting out of the realities we face. I read the comments, and generally ignore the malicious shots taken at individuals. The new breed is a lot whinier than the police officers I knew, but when you've got 8 hours in a car, b.s. "What ifs" enters into a lot of the discussions. Venting is good, but it's spread far beyond the confines of an individual car, watch or district/unit.

If you censor for reasons other than those reasons articulated, you would lose your credibility. Keep up the good work.

5/03/2008 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Father Nangle hit the nail on the head......Anyone reading the comments can't help but get the perception that the Chicago Police Department is the most cynical, racist, and unorganized body of City governemnt in the history of the world...I'm ashame to be a police officer and if you think most of these comments are posted by non-police personnel then, SCC you are as out of touch as J-Fed, Mayor Daley and all the others you bash so frequently on this blog....Get a clue my friend...Fr, Nangle pinned the tail on the SCC ,oops I mean the ass.

5/03/2008 07:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DONT SWEAT IT HE HAS A NICE CUSHY LIFE.

I DONT HANG WITH MY LOCAL PRIEST BECAUSE JUST LIKE COPPERS THEY HAVE AGENDAS.

YOU KNOW LIKE
WOMAN CANT BE PRIEST
WOMAN SHOULDNT BE ON BIRTH CONTROL
CRAZY FEE TO USE THE CHURCH
PEDOPHILE SCANDALS
HIDING NAZIS IN WW 2

OH WELL, WE ALL HAVE PEOPLE WITH BAD INTENTION.

5/03/2008 07:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree 100% also, we have to sound so unprofessional and like a bunch of whiny bitches to anyone that reads. Now that being said, we all know that probably half of the people here are not CPD and many that post only post with the intention of being negative towards us. The coppers bashing other coppers is a disgrace, or suggestions to boycott st jude(just total bullshit to suggest that)! The guys who find it funny to call out other coppers because they go in large groups to lunch, what the fuck? You will be the guy that whines when an inspector gigs u for being down 35 minutes yet you point out where others are for too long! We really need to wake up and realize that we are only hurting ourselves. The same guys that wonder why we cant get a contract from the city are the ones on here bashing other coppers thus giving the city exactly what they want. DIVISIVENESS among us! I suggest SCC u take the comments out for awhile, make coppers find another avenue to vent for a few months. Lets do a study and see how many negative stories disappear as this site gives the media sooo much to write about. All they do is read this one day and they have enough material for a month of police bashing, then we wonder why we are bashed. WE ARE GIVING THEM everything they need, free of charge. Naming bars we drink at, restaurants we eat at, places we shit at, neighborhoods we live in, WAKE UP PEOPLE! Society as a whole is getting dumber with each generation in my opinion, but please try to at least have some common sense, think of your post before u actually click "publish" Think of who(US) it might affect when the scum times is on the other side reading it! We want a contract we have to be together, not on here tearing each other apart. We all know about the suckasses on the job and needing clout to get anywhere, we all know that the liberals are completlety in a world of their own and not reality, but this is chicago, its been that way forever and isnt going to change because u post some anonymous post on here. If u want to make a point do it professionally, leave out names, leave out units and dont give the city or an inspector anything else to get us on. I will never suggest leaving YOUR name as long as u are still employed by the city as we all know that they WILL get back at us for that, so anonymous postings are ok as long as they dont tear each other up or sound like an 8yo got a hold of your keyboard. Then when an order comes out that u dont like u can blame yourself for bringing attention to the exact issues u spoke of here. You think the bosses and someone at city hall arent reading this everyday? Are u that naive? Write professionally, dont sound like some uneducated idiot it only makes us look worse. And if u are still so childish that u sound like a HS freshman posting, please just skip it and keep it to yourself or tell the dog. You just make us sound and look like bigger assholes, EXACTLY what the city wants you to do! Sorry, I thought SCC was great at first as it finally gave us a way to actually speak our minds, and while it stil does that, I guess it just embarrases me when i read some of the shit i read on here. When i first came on i was proud to say i'm a Chicago Police officer, and still am. But everyday i read this it gets harder to keep that mentality. I dont post often, only when someone hits a nerve. I only ask that as coppers we stop the negativity and stay together, this job was soo much more fun when we did that. Stay safe from a south side copper and proud memder of the CPD!

5/03/2008 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fr.Nagle I am a huge supporter of you and enjpy your newsletter stories. I am catholic and have been proud to be so for years, as I believe. The Catholic church has made me feel just like you feel, ashamed to admit they "are mine."Scandal after scandal and then the pope opens his sacred mouth about how Americans should keep excepting Illegals into our country, uh.... because they are catholics??I bet Rome would love the illegals to come there, oh no Rome wont allow such things. The politics was never evident when I was a child and their was magic in the church for me. Today I feel like you, ashamed, of my church. Who do our kids look up to? You talk about how hard and brash police members are in your articles. This because we are worn out inside and out, we dance with the beast nightly. Trying to shut that off inside is really hard when you can see thorugh lies so easy.
Sincerly, A Good man, a good father, a shamed policeman.

5/03/2008 09:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The empty cylinder writes:

Fr Nangel is seeking approval and feedback for his own ego and self serving agenda. Himself. He's using this forum to assist that need just as he uses the FOP newsletter. He needs attention and needs to read a response.

Personally, he seems like an average writer, not much style but persistant. Is that what you are looking for?

Because this site is NOT all police and never claimed as much. I wish you'd keep your personal feelings within the walls of your sermon givings, especially if you must exclaim your shame for the department members, most of whom never ever post on this blog.

I read it, I post on occasion, but I never assume it's the police and it's fair and accurate reporting.

I suggest the FR. spend his time writing the local newspapers deploring their erroneous articles
so obviously anti police.

Like I said when they wanted to ban smoking in the bars I love to frequent...If you don't like the smell, don't go in Padre.

On a side note and in no way connecting this to the person of the good Padre.

There seems to be a lot of house work needed in the church's own residence, ( homosexual blight ) to mention just one currently in the press, to single out the dirt in the house of another.

5/03/2008 10:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Father Nangle is as much as a Catholic priest as Jody is as much as a chicago cop.

Now if it was the Rabbi guy saying stuff - THEN you would have somebody you could respect and take criticisim from.

5/03/2008 11:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is all stuff we say to each other just thrown onto some website, for all to read. it doesn't bother me and shouldn't bother anyone else. in the end, we all back each other up. Those in blue that is. not white shirts

5/03/2008 12:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Father Nagle is the BEST!!!! Always there for the police. He always has had our backs and always will. We are his flock.

5/03/2008 07:18:00 AM"

Speak for yourself.Father Tom is for Father Tom period.
I'll take Rabbi Wolf anyday,truly a man of God if there ever was one.

5/03/2008 12:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Father Nangle hit the nail on the head......Anyone reading the comments can't help but get the perception that the Chicago Police Department is the most cynical, racist, and unorganized body of City governemnt in the history of the world...I'm ashame to be a police officer and if you think most of these comments are posted by non-police personnel then, SCC you are as out of touch as J-Fed, Mayor Daley and all the others you bash so frequently on this blog....Get a clue my friend...Fr, Nangle pinned the tail on the SCC ,oops I mean the ass.

Who gives a fuck what the public thinks of us. This site is meant for police. If people dont like whats on here dont come here and if they dont like police dont call them.

5/03/2008 12:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is Father Nangle's opinion of Phleger?

5/03/2008 01:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I felt the need to respond as well. If SCC does maintain this blog by him/herself, or regardless of who is helping to maintain the comments section, it must be a lot of work. You also probably never hear many thanks, much like we rarely do after putting on the uniform. You've been "serving" the officers you work with by offering us a wonderful place to vent and keep up on current issues. Thanks for the hardwork. Fortunately, or Unfortunately I've become a daily reader.

5/03/2008 01:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a catholic, I agree with the father. We should pretend that bad things don't happen in our own organizations and wait for hundreds of children to be terrorized for years while the leadership purposefully ignores the pedophiles. Father, have you ever personally contacted Vatican Hill and relayed your resentment towards pedophiles in America to the Bishop of Rome sitting on The Rock. If you did, than I apologize. But don't try cleaning up our mess if you have never confronted your own agencies problems, sir. Otherwise, it is like Jesse Jackass marriage counselling Bill Clinton while at the same time he was have an affair and a bastard child.

5/03/2008 01:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DONT SWEAT IT HE HAS A NICE CUSHY LIFE.

I DONT HANG WITH MY LOCAL PRIEST BECAUSE JUST LIKE COPPERS THEY HAVE AGENDAS.

YOU KNOW LIKE
WOMAN CANT BE PRIEST
WOMAN SHOULDNT BE ON BIRTH CONTROL
CRAZY FEE TO USE THE CHURCH
PEDOPHILE SCANDALS
HIDING NAZIS IN WW 2

OH WELL, WE ALL HAVE PEOPLE WITH BAD INTENTION
---------------------------------
No doubt about it, you're an idiot.

5/03/2008 02:09:00 PM  
Blogger John Northen said...

"When it comes to the 'comments' section of SCC, Officers, enough is enough. If you're going to say it, sign your name to it. Enough is enough." - Fr. Tom Nangle, FOP May Newsletter, p. 7.

You've got to be kidding me, Tom.

While active, I needed more than one hand to count the psychopathic and moronic bosses that I had to endure. Even with PTSD, I can't imagine any active officer signing on to comments about some of the assholes that have destroyed both careers and morale.

Certainly, criticism of command and policies, no matter how truthful and forthright they may be, will incur the wrath (a "brick") of the powers that be.

Trust me from my personal experience. From Daley on down, they become treacherous, vindictive sadists who will enjoy throwing you under the bus in a heartbeat.

Otherwise, I generally agree with your column. I left a phone message for you, Tom.

God bless you, our fallen comrades and SCC.

5/03/2008 02:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fr. Nangle;
Just one question. Please tell the rank and file how much you make a year! I bet you won't touch that question!!!!!!

5/03/2008 03:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nangle is a crook, plain and simple. If he wasn't a priest, he'd be an exempt member. He was exposed some time back for the money he makes and his condo in wisc. Sure, he comforts a grieving po family every now and then, but what else does he do. You guys bust on the reverends all of the time and rightly so, but don't let the priests off the hook. Every other month these days, another one gets busted with his hand in the collection basked. Though I guess that's not too bad considering the rest of them have their hands in some little boy's pants. Nangle has kissed up to the powers that be and he is loved by the exempts, so that should tell you something. He's fronting for the exempts with his SCC comments. Wake up people. He's just as bad as city hall and the political exempts.

5/03/2008 03:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Father Nangle is a good and decent man. He should not cast the fisrt stone however. I have questions for Father. What happended to St. Michaels House? How much is Phil Cline making as President or whatever of the Police Memorial? How much are others being paid? How much has been taken in and how much has been paid out of the memorial fund and to whom? And, why won't you tell us these things?

There is a lot of whining, crying and backstabbing on this blog. But it is also a realease for a lot of pent up frustration by officers who have been crapped on by the Mayor, Police Administration and the Public. It gives us a place to vent.

Again, Father Nangle has always been a good friend to us, but maybe he should go after the things that casue the anger. Go after Phlager. Go after the Mayor. Tell off J-Fed. When you come clean about St. Michaels House, The Memorial Fund and stand-up to the machine, come back and join in.

Pallidin

5/03/2008 04:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I agree 100% with Father Nangle. I had to stop reading the comments because, as a civilian, it gave me a very bad impression of the CPD and you begin to believe all the media hype. However, I do believe that those who defame others on this site, use this forum as their personal latrine and post things they wouldn't have the balls to say to someone's face, represent a small fraction of the troops.

5/03/2008 07:20:00 AM

__________________________________
Well CIVILIAN this blog wasn't meant for you......and even though he is a good man, this blog was not intended for Father Nagle either.
Also, I could give a rat's ass of your opinion of CPD. Neither you, nor the good Father has walked a mile in our shoes. Furthermore, you are a complete clown if you believe ANYTHING you hear from the news media on any topic (weather included). Every story is told from a sensationalist viewpoint in order to sell advertising.

5/03/2008 04:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 5/03/2008 09:09:00 AM,

Hear, hear! Fr. Nangle is a good and honorable man, but you speak the truth and I couldn't agree with you more!

5/03/2008 04:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fr. Nagle is a priest. I enjoy his articles however; In Chicago we say; "Who is your Chinaman?" In New York they say; "Who is your Rabbi?" So "Who is Fr. Nangle's Chinaman?".

5/03/2008 04:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I had to laugh outloud when I read Fr. Nangle's article. He couldn't be more right. SCC's insights are always on point and from the real police perspective. And some of the comments are hilarious and show the real police humor. But there are a lot of just frustrated people out there that want to spew garbage. Don't give them the venue, SCC. Censor that crap, we won't miss it.

5/03/2008 05:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any criticism of Nangle is total bullshit. He's a good man and more the "real police" than a third of the force.

5/03/2008 05:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A lot of people have had their reputations, marriages and maybe even careers hurt by the comments section, NOT SCC's musings. I totally agree with Nangle. The blog is great, but some of these comments are so far out of line, they have to be written with the sole intent to hurt others. Really, where's the fun in that?

5/03/2008 05:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's not a "versus", SCC. Fr. Nangle is right. Your blog is excellent, and you're a talented, funny writer. But many of the comments are just angry b.s. venting. Who needs it?

5/03/2008 05:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC - keep up the good work. This is YOUR blog and nobody elses. If they want to start their own blog then have at it. People are constantly going to throw shots at you because the actual truth is spoken here. You see beyond the smoke and mirror or dog and pony show as some would call it. For the readers out there, if you don't like you read on this blog then get the fuck out. Nobody is forcing you to visit. Truth hurts and thats why people get mad including a lot of the bosses in this city because they don't want anybody knowing the real stories or the actual truth.

5/03/2008 05:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Holy Tripping the Rift Batman!!!

I have no stones just words to yell! Father Nagle, drop those rocks!

5/03/2008 07:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please do not attack Fr. Nangle. Fr. Tom has been nothing but great to the police. He is a honorable man with values. Thank you.

Shawn M. Hallinan - 014

5/03/2008 07:39:00 PM  
Blogger leomemorial said...

>>... I had to stop reading the comments because, as a civilian, it gave me a very bad impression of the CPD... <<

You're a complete moron. Since when are these people different from us (civilians) in the way they express themselves? We do the same thing; gossip, complain, backstab, etc. Why are police officers put under the microscope when we should be held equally accountable? Many of us handle the public's finances, teach children, put out fires, cook for the public, etc.

Our city treats our officers like crap. They equip them w/very little equipment to do their jobs, are constantly negative, never show what it's like to deal w/the public (Chicagoans are idiots), and on and on. I could list many more.

Perhaps if this department had strong leadership, then we wouldn't really need this blog, would we? How many officers have we lost already from suicide? How many rookies want to leave because of the management as well as the public they have to deal with in our city? How many veterans have to find other ways to cope with this garbage outside the job to make something negative into a positive?

May is about the police memorial and tomorrow I'm going to try to make a nice memorial video as well as SPOTLIGHT our STARS. Because I have seen many of them on the streets, what they do and how they're treated.

P.s. Rabbi Wolfe is the best!!!!!! Very open-minded and observant.

5/03/2008 07:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Keesing Bandit says---

Sorry--The Padre is a no-fly zone--even for me!!!

Now, kees me you fool!!!

5/03/2008 09:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fr. Nangle-

When are we going to see you south of 36th Street?

5/03/2008 10:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The good father has never been fucked over by this department.

5/03/2008 10:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YOU KNOW LIKE
WOMAN CANT BE PRIEST
WOMAN SHOULDNT BE ON BIRTH CONTROL
CRAZY FEE TO USE THE CHURCH
PEDOPHILE SCANDALS
HIDING NAZIS IN WW 2

OH WELL, WE ALL HAVE PEOPLE WITH BAD INTENTION
---------------------------------
No doubt about it, you're an idiot.




No sir I know you are an idiot. Years ago I went to Nangle to seek advice as to something inappropriate that happened to my daughter at church ( nothing terrible but should be addressed) as usual Nangle took the side of the church and made excusses for them. SO FUCK HIM.

5/03/2008 10:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hear, hear! Fr. Nangle is a good and honorable man, but you speak the truth and I couldn't agree with you more!


And he never meet an exempt he didn't like, just another suck ass with a collar. Daley boy.

5/03/2008 10:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I really don't give a Fu#* about what Nangle or the public thinks about me, or the Dept; or the City. Does he ever speak out against the corruption going on within the dept. for decades, or how it is wrong, or immoral, or how some get all because of political connections, and most get none, time after time? About all the tremendous experienced officers who have left, or are leaving, in disgust? About the pedophile priests, thieving Aldermen, etc? Does he ever speak to the Mayor, the Cardinal, the FOP, the County Board, or anyone else in high up authority, about whats right, ethical, and honest, and to quit fucking over good Police Officers and taxpayers for the sake of politics? To stop the corruption, the graft, the voting themselves nice pay-raises regularly, while everyone else gets a crap raise, or none at all? Give me a break, I'll pick my own clergyman to represent me, and it won't be Nangle.

5/03/2008 10:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

venting on scc has saved me a lot of money for therapy :)

5/03/2008 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Catholic Church and its priests are full of misfits, pedophiles and thieves. The department has arrested both the pedophiles and thieves with more on the chopping block. The Archdiocese brushes more under the rug than 35th St. does with the clouted and exempt -- ask any dic in the det div that has handled any case with a priest and the Arch.

Father Nangle lives a very comfortable life-$tyle and gets paid far-more than your average associate priest because of his exempt status with the CPD.

Father Nangle should be more concerned about the priests stealing from the Arch parishes and the priests sexually abusing kids and address the CPD rank and file who are Catholic and how their crimes have affected our relationship with the Catholic Church. He should be more concerned about these issues rather than the ranting that goes on this blog.

5/03/2008 11:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A supervisor criticized SCC in front of me one day. He was not the type of supervisor I particularly respect.

This is free speech. Free speech is good. Case closed. I suspect Nangle is fronting for the exempts. Some damn good information on this blog, and I believe it has influenced some decisions on 35th Street.

5/03/2008 11:09:00 PM  
Blogger kateykakes said...

Anonymous said...
Anyone reading the comments can't help but get the perception that the Chicago Police Department is the most cynical, racist, and unorganized body of City governemnt in the history of the world...I'm ashame to be a police officer and if you think most of these comments are posted by non-police personnel then, SCC you are as out of touch as J-Fed, Mayor Daley and all the others you bash so frequently on this blog....Get a clue my friend...Fr, Nangle pinned the tail on the SCC ,oops I mean the ass.

5/03/2008 07:53:00 AM


It's called VENTING, and you will find it on EVERY major big city police forum or blog out there. Even small time bloggers vent about their dept.

Although I am not a P/O, my best friend is one and I have had an on again/off again relationship with a P/O for 2.5 years now. If y'all don't vent, you'll keep it bottled inside and either take it out on someone undeserving or drive yourselves insane.

I see the same comments (different cities, of course) with Philadelphia's Domelights. The same thing with NYPD's Rant. I'm sure there are many other sites out there too with officers who are venting and releasing. IMO, it's healthy.

And of course there's always this: If you don't like it, don't read it. Nobody is forcing you to in the first place.

As always, you do a great job here, SCC. I commend you.

5/04/2008 12:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey,
Keesing bandit,

The whole Catholic Church AKA the holy sea is a "no fly zone".

Pun intended if the shoe fits.

5/04/2008 12:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

22 years on this job and never once saw Fr Nagle come to a south side district even after the murder of an officer. He's made a lot of money from us and has a much nicer retirement then we could ever hope for. Just don't think he has the right to comment...

5/04/2008 02:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ah one thing real quick to all you people bashing the blog for what it is who is holding that M-4 to your head making you read it???

think about that while riding in your tahoe

5/04/2008 05:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No sir I know you are an idiot. Years ago I went to Nangle to seek advice as to something inappropriate that happened to my daughter at church ( nothing terrible but should be addressed) as usual Nangle took the side of the church and made excusses for them. SO FUCK HIM.

5/03/2008 10:28:00 PM

Something happened to your daughter and so you went to the police chaplain? You can't be the real police, wtf is wrong with you. If someone does something to your kid address it or arrest them. Pussy.

5/04/2008 08:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's with all this blaming Nangle for everything wrong with the Catholic church? That's like blaming your dumb ass for what Abbatte did. Nangle's got no control over that, and neither did you. Grow up.

5/04/2008 08:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was Fr. Nangle concerned about what he was exposing to the world when he appeared on the front page of the tribune a few years back?

When well-meaning individuals sent donations to the Gold Star Society. They never realized that they were helping Fr. Tom purchase a house for cash in Indiana.

Now that's an embarrassment!!

5/04/2008 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

when is the good father gonna confront the other good father from st . sabina...i no im evil, and i could care less...

5/04/2008 10:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

free speech is offensive...if you dont like move to europe...

5/04/2008 10:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC,
It is your site and I must commend you, you answer your emails and remove questionable material on request. If somebody is offended by something posted, then they should contact you directly. You have been nothing but professional to me.

5/04/2008 11:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hear, hear! Fr. Nangle is a good and honorable man, but you speak the truth and I couldn't agree with you more!


And he never meet an exempt he didn't like, just another suck ass with a collar. Daley boy.

5/03/2008 10:33:00 PM

5/03/2008 10:33:00 PM, you totally missed the point of my post. I was agreeing with 5/03/2008 09:09:00 AM, and apparently, you agree with him, too.

And I am sure Fr. Nangle has met an exempt or two with which he was not too impressed, but how does a man of the cloth make his adverse feelings about another person known to you and I? Answer, he doesn't, and he goes forward as best he can while attempting to nurture the best from all those he comes into contact. However, for whatever you and I think of him, I do feel bad for Fr. Nangle. He has to navigate the politics of city government, the politics of the catholic archdiocese and the politics of the CPD, all at the same time. I am surprised he has not jumped off the Sears Tower, with all of that corrupt and svage bs around him.

5/04/2008 11:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nangle got it. i admire the work scc puts into this blog. i dont even read the comments anymore.

5/04/2008 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Was Fr. Nangle concerned about what he was exposing to the world when he appeared on the front page of the tribune a few years back?

When well-meaning individuals sent donations to the Gold Star Society. They never realized that they were helping Fr. Tom purchase a house for cash in Indiana.

Now that's an embarrassment!!

5/04/2008 09:47:00 AM

Again, some dumb ass commenting on something he knows nothing about. The story Maurice (I-hate-the-police) Posely ran in the Tribune on Nangle said he had a "cabin in Wisconsin" trying to suggest that only someone taking money would "have a cabin in Wisconsin."

Nangle inherited some little place up there when his folks died. So shut the f*ck up unless you know what you're talking about, or unless you work for the media.

5/04/2008 02:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
22 years on this job and never once saw Fr Nagle come to a south side district even after the murder of an officer. He's made a lot of money from us and has a much nicer retirement then we could ever hope for. Just don't think he has the right to comment...

5/04/2008 02:21:00 AM

Why would he be at the district, you pin head? He's at the hospital with the family. Moron.

5/04/2008 02:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the nitwit who says he never saw Nangle on the south side, maybe it's because you are a house mouse. Nangle use to ride regularly with the 6th Dist/ Tac. cars.

Hurry, I think the commanders calling you!

5/04/2008 04:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Keesing Bandit says---

The only reason I won't make one of my usual silly comments about Fr. Nangle is because:

1. I'm not a Catholic.
2. I hear about all the good work he does and have seen some of it.
3. I've also heard how he has enriched himself doing it.

In my particular religion (Lutheran), there is no vow of poverty. When my children were younger and went to a Lutheran school, I saw how much the clergy and the teachers made. Believe me, it wasn't much. Usually, the pastors were given houses to use, but did not own them.

Maybe I am just old fashioned, but I don't think retired reverends should be given million plus dollar houses in neighborhoods that he has attacked his entire pastoral career.

I also don't think Catholic clergy should have fat bank accounts and luxury homes.

If you devote your life to your deity, you should be humble. If you're rich, you are not humble.

This is far and away too serious for me, so to get back on my usual nonsense---

Kees me you fool!!!

5/04/2008 04:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fr. Nangle;
Just one question. Please tell the rank and file how much you make a year! I bet you won't touch that question!!!!!!

5/03/2008 03:18:00 PM

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I'll answer that for him. Nothing you dumbass!!!

5/04/2008 05:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No sir I know you are an idiot. Years ago I went to Nangle to seek advice as to something inappropriate that happened to my daughter at church ( nothing terrible but should be addressed) as usual Nangle took the side of the church and made excusses for them. SO FUCK HIM
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Just going by your original post I have deduced that you are an ignorant idiot--probably a douchebag also!!!

5/04/2008 05:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Catholic Church and its priests are full of misfits, pedophiles and thieves. The department has arrested both the pedophiles and thieves with more on the chopping block. The Archdiocese brushes more under the rug than 35th St. does with the clouted and exempt -- ask any dic in the det div that has handled any case with a priest and the Arch.

Father Nangle lives a very comfortable life-$tyle and gets paid far-more than your average associate priest because of his exempt status with the CPD.

Father Nangle should be more concerned about the priests stealing from the Arch parishes and the priests sexually abusing kids and address the CPD rank and file who are Catholic and how their crimes have affected our relationship with the Catholic Church. He should be more concerned about these issues rather than the ranting that goes on this blog.

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All you morons you print shit like this are the biggest hypocrites in the world.
So Father Nagle has no right to say anything because of the scandals in the Church?
Then apparently, as police, we should be judged by the actions of the few cops who do dumb shit, like the SOS guys and Abbate.

5/04/2008 05:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

venting on scc has saved me a lot of money for therapy :)

5/03/2008 10:53:00 PM

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

me too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

5/04/2008 05:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Fr. Nangle;
Just one question. Please tell the rank and file how much you make a year! I bet you won't touch that question!!!!!!

5/03/2008 03:18:00 PM

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I'll answer that for him. Nothing you dumbass!!!


I BELIEVE THE NUMBER IS $176,000.00...NOT BAD FOR A QUIGLEY BOY!
HEY TOM, CAN I USE THE CONDO WITH MY KIDS NEXT WEEK END?

5/04/2008 10:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I called Father Nangle six separate times for support in a non-duty help a police family matter, and he was unable to attend each time. Apparently he has a busy schedule. I lost faith.

5/04/2008 10:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why did Budweiser stop giving money father Nangle? The money wasn't going to the coppers. Why did Tom Needham go to Ed Burke and have the money stopped from going into an account that you had access? You were stealing the money. Coppers have needed assistance since the beginning of time when the demons have bestowed themselves and you have taken money that was meant to help our protectors. You should be ashamed!

Anyone and I mean anyone who has ever been assisted by Loyola knows that nangle is a thief.

5/04/2008 11:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

...Just one question. Please tell the rank and file how much you make a year!...

He gets paid by the diocese - the Department just provides a car, gas and a blackberry.

5/04/2008 11:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Fr. Nangle;
Just one question. Please tell the rank and file how much you make a year! I bet you won't touch that question!!!!!!

5/03/2008 03:18:00 PM

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Why don't you check the site that has all Department member's salaries listed? If they pay him, it's on there.

5/04/2008 11:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Something happened to your daughter and so you went to the police chaplain? You can't be the real police, wtf is wrong with you. If someone does something to your kid address it or arrest them. Pussy.


Learn how to read. Goof

5/05/2008 12:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Who gives a fuck what the public thinks of us. This site is meant for police. If people dont like whats on here dont come here and if they dont like police dont call them.

5/03/2008 12:44:00 PM"

And that "my friend" (A McCainism) is the problem" with this department. Officers like you. The majority of comments printed in this blog could and should be used as toilet paper. Officers bad mouthing other officers, posting officers names (this to me is a serious issue SCC), race baiting, posting sexist outrageous posts, or my favorite disrspecting other peoples religion namely Islam and you all know what I'm talking about. If I were a civilian I would have lost all respect for this department and it's officers after half the BS posted here. We are our own worst enemies. SCC you've done a nice job but this has become a double edge sword. We give so much information and ammunition to the media and the world about us it's sickening. I know it's hard to screen every post but something needs to be done. Regardless of who the blog is meant for it's read by people all over the world. This blog represnts me and all of the 9,277 officers(yes that's the correct number) and I would like to be reprsented with dignity and not bathroom BS nmaing calling and garbage. This blog for some is the only "real" contact they have with us. This blog for the most part makes us look like a bunch of retarded, mentally ill, no life having, bigoted,miserable uneducated asshats. And let's not be naive and say that the ignorant posts are made by others outside of this department, we all know the majority are officers making these posts. This place is a zoo run by the damn animals.


Stay Safe and thanks Scc for at least giving us a platform

5/05/2008 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When duty disabled POs were trying to get the FOP, city and state to help get a little more compensation Fr. Nagle was asked to help. Never showed up.
He would never cross a boss or the FOP.

5/05/2008 01:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Father Tom, SCC, I believe, no I know, that it doesn't matter what is written on the blog (or any where else, for that matter). Those that hate the Police are going to hate us anyway. Those that like the Police, are going to like us anyway, also. I have civilian friends who read SCC and they love it and find it highly amusing, and actually ask me about certain topics, (they hate king richie, alderthieves, etc. also) and even now use the terms they heard on the blog. I also have acquaintences who only watch the news and TV shows and actually believe what they see and hear, and guess what, they don't like us and are actually envious that they could never be the POLICE!!

5/05/2008 01:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Something happened to your daughter and so you went to the police chaplain? You can't be the real police, wtf is wrong with you. If someone does something to your kid address it or arrest them. Pussy.


Learn how to read. Goof

5/05/2008 12:07:00 AM

I didn't leave either post, but went back to read the original. "Something happened, not terrible, but should be addressed." So address it, you goof, why're you crying to the police chaplain? It aint his parish. And learn how to spell, you moron. And teach your kid to stand up for herself.

5/05/2008 06:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

free speech is offensive...if you dont like move to europe
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Why, is free speech no longer allowed in Europe?

5/05/2008 06:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I BELIEVE THE NUMBER IS $176,000.00...NOT BAD FOR A QUIGLEY BOY!
HEY TOM, CAN I USE THE CONDO WITH MY KIDS NEXT WEEK END
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http://www.bettergov.org/Research/Employees.aspx

look up Nagle---see what you find.
This is all people on the state, county and city payrolls.

5/05/2008 07:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Father Nagle,
You were there for me on 12 Feb 07
thats all that matters to me. Thank You !!!!!!!!!!

5/05/2008 08:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Father Nangle is a good and kind man who wants to think the best of all police of every rank. Father, reread these comments. Aren't these the same things we say to you in confidence? A confidence that you have always kept. God Bless Father Nangle and SCC. The poormans couseling session.

5/05/2008 10:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fr.Nangle I called you twice in a 15 year period, once for a favor,once for a little help. Both times I was met with bullshit excuses.Yet when commanders kids call you came.But thats okay, even though I am a Catholic the Rabbi helped me out. Thanks Father.

5/05/2008 10:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm glad Nangle is smart enough not to cross the pols. If Daley was a better pol, like his father, he'd treat us well and we wouldn't cross him. That's a shame.

5/05/2008 11:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"When duty disabled POs were trying to get the FOP, city and state to help get a little more compensation Fr. Nagle was asked to help. Never showed up.
He would never cross a boss or the FOP."

"I called Father Nangle six separate times for support in a non-duty help a police family matter, and he was unable to attend each time. Apparently he has a busy schedule. I lost faith."

Guess the Sheperd was too busy to attend to his Flock?.
He's a Company Pimp in a collar, his actions or lack thereof speak for themselves.
On top of being a babbler during the Memorial @ Gold Star Park on Sunday.
Rabbi Wolf was a class act, as always and stayed around for awhile talking to People. The same can't be said for Father One-Way.

5/06/2008 05:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay for all those posts saying Father Nangle doesn't do anything for the typical PO, you should have been in the south loop yesterday. The guy was right in the mix with two 001 district guys taking down a strung out mexican in the federal prison plaza. The guy beat up some woman and Nangle was right there helping the officers---while the prison security and fed marshalls stood there with their thumbs up their asses and never stepped in to help our guys struggling with this jag off.

5/06/2008 09:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nangle's a good man, and a real friend to the police. If you have a different opinion on that, then it's clear to me that you don't know him. That's all I have to say.

5/06/2008 09:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The guy was right in the mix with two 001 district guys taking down a strung out mexican in the federal prison plaza. The guy beat up some woman and Nangle was right there helping the officers"

So when the 3rd party beef comes down which is inevitable,is the Good Padre going to write a witness statement to exonerate this Officers?

Me thinks NOT!!

5/07/2008 12:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

as a Catholic i have had pleasure to meet a man whom i like to think a true man of GOD and that would be the Rev, Lopez a personage that was never judgemental or critical and alaways happy to stop and spend a little time and alaways a listener just a good guy

5/07/2008 07:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"The guy was right in the mix with two 001 district guys taking down a strung out mexican in the federal prison plaza. The guy beat up some woman and Nangle was right there helping the officers"

So when the 3rd party beef comes down which is inevitable,is the Good Padre going to write a witness statement to exonerate this Officers?

Me thinks NOT!!

5/07/2008 12:32:00 AM

3rd party beef? You're an idiot. And you don't have to advertize that you don't think, it's obvious to the rest of us.

5/07/2008 09:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"advertize that you don't think, it's obvious to the rest of us."

Right back at you.
It's advertise 1/2 wit, try using spell check next time.That's if you can pull your head out of the Captain's crotch Gump.

5/08/2008 10:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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5/08 10:10 pm
You really ARE a dumbshit. Stay off the blog.

5/09/2008 09:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This
ad·ver·tize Audio Help"


The source you cited must be an Ebonics dictionary
Merriam-Webster On-line
advertize
The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary.

Suggestions for advertize:
1. advertise
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3. advertised
EAT ME! Assmunch & practice what you preach!

5/10/2008 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Suggestions for advertize:
1. advertise
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EAT ME! Assmunch & practice what you preach!

5/10/2008 12:08:00 AM

For God's sakes get over yourself little man. You need a psych referral.

5/10/2008 04:11:00 PM  

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