Friday, May 02, 2008

WTF J-Fed?

Is this guy getting the worst advice in the history of the Department or what? This is making the Keystone Cops look like a competent police force.
  • UPDATE: The Felony Review Notification order has been rescinded effective 1 May 2008.

    Notice AMFN#081843 reads:

    "The arrest of a police officer will NOT automatically be referred to Felony Review absent the factors contained in General Order 99-03, "Felony Review by Cook County State's Attorney". Pursuant to existing directives, felony charges will only be sought when the elements of a felony crime exist."
So someone in J-Fed's orifice oops, we meant office, puts out an Order that is in direct violation of an existing General Order and it takes over two days for someone to notice? Who's General Counsel again? Oh yeah, Deb Kirby, former head of IAD.

We were talking with a few of our predecessors the other day and in their 122 years combined experience, either this is the most clueless Superintendent in known history or someone is setting this guy up to be the biggest patsy of all time.

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125 Comments:

Blogger Henry Bowman said...

I've said it before and I'll say itagain...."NEVER trust a fed.

5/02/2008 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It doesnt matter what the order says do you really think that felony review will not be notified even unofficially by a boss when a cop gets pinched. just another J FED trick to make it look like he is helping the officers. Like our tahoes machine guns and free glocks.

5/02/2008 12:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Or both.

5/02/2008 12:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WE should all get together and sue J-FED for violating our contractual rights over and over again.


If only the media new how many of these orders were recinded when the clueless fuck actually got a 1/3 of one.



Where are all those J-FEd is the greates thing posts we so heard of? Guess what SGT class to start YUP YOU GUESSED IT 30% MERITORIUOS ! Yup he's cleaning house allright. Making up new 130k jobs for no reason but to check the crooked people who are checking us. UNFUKINBELIEVEABLE!

Can't ait for my burbs app to come through. 22 days til I am gone.

5/02/2008 12:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the words of the 3 greatest philosophers of modern times, Who's on first, What's on second and I don't know is on third. Another genius that hasn't worked the streets for years takes it upon him or herself to create a bogus order.

Gonna be an awesome summer. Hold on to your hats people and keep your arms and hands inside the ride at all times.

It's like a fart in a windstorm around here. Who's runnin this brigada anyway? Does anyone know wat's going on around here? LOL. I Luvz it.

5/02/2008 12:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Personally I think he needs to get rid of Kirby. She singlehandedly has screwed up IAD to the point that it will take well over a year to restore any crumb of credibility there. The handling of the SOS scandal was abysmal, the needless stripping of officers for minor shit has done more to hurt morale in the past 2 years than anything I can think of for the past 20. Why in God's name he appointed her his general counsel is still one of the great Chicago mysteries, one that will haunt J-Fed as he flees this shithole of a city sometime early next year (my prediction).

5/02/2008 12:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heard the Dept is sending double the amount of POs for the Cinco Demayo Fest than normal. The JFED is concerned about all of the violence between the gangs along 26th St. If we have nice weather this weekend watch out.....

5/02/2008 12:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love my cats,........."MEOWW"
P.S. is revrend Wright going to go by his friend "Mikes " house tonight?

5/02/2008 12:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think it's neither.

Someone (not J-Dork) comes up with these hair brained scheems. Typical of upper level CPD, no one checks the new idea v. existing rules, orders, or contracts......nevermind MORALE! Morale what's that?

PS, just cause they recind it does not mean they won't follow thru with it. Maybe that order was never meant for general publication....

5/02/2008 01:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of WTF: Anyone want to do a Over/Under on the Step-off of the St. Jude parade?

Remember how bad last year was?? Offical Step off will be at 8 am. I'll say 9:30 before J-Fed and all his new Commanders get a clue and quit knocking their heads together and start walking. Any takers?

I got my big red nose and over sized shoes to fit the part of this circus train wreck on Sunday.

5/02/2008 01:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is THE best advise one can give all working Chicago Police Officers . . .

STOP RIGHT FUC%ING NOW doing any proactive police work!!!!!!

That is all!!

5/02/2008 02:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PLEASE VISIT THIS ANTI OBAMA SITE AND SPREAD THIS! IT IS GREAT AND THE LEFT MEDIA DOES NOT WANT YOU TO SEE THIS! PLEASE SPREAD THIS!


http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036

5/02/2008 02:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He is just messing with all of us. Next they will say call Felony review. Some guys won't get this current up-date and you will have some guy's still calling. The Command Staff are a bunch of "JACKALANTERNS"!

Signed; THE GUY WHO DON'T GIVE A FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

5/02/2008 02:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This figures! J-Fed has recently been bringing 5 year wonder, pretty blondes to work in his office and give him advise. I know cause I work at 35th and have seen the recent influx. Looks like business as usual with the brass and good looking women!

5/02/2008 03:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Hey SCC, how about forming plans to march on city hall here on the blog?? Clearly FOP isn't interested in ruffling feathers..Their excuse is now and always "you don't want to disrupt contract talks..."

Is anyone willing to march/protest???

5/01/2008 06:44:00 PM



I WILL, NAME THE TIME AND THE PLACE? LETS GET THINGS STARTED!

5/02/2008 03:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT...I can't believe what a stroke 700 is!!! Get a clue looser!

5/02/2008 03:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Ever see the movie Office Space? J Fed looks like the boss... Riiiiight...

5/01/2008 11:26:00 PM


YA AND HE KEEPS GIVING OUT THE SAME REPORTS LIKE IN THE MOVE!

5/02/2008 03:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I vote for the "Patsy"scenario..He cant be this dumb and clueless..He screws up again,we ought to refer to him as Lee harvey Oswald J-Fed.

5/02/2008 03:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
has anyone heard about a new E.T. class forming? or a new test coming soon???

5/01/2008 05:48:00 PM


PER; E.T. Unit talk is at the end of may maybe around 16 or so! No word on a new test.

5/02/2008 03:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Check out this site and look who is still our boss.


http://www.chicagopolice.org/index.html

5/02/2008 04:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You Got My Vote For For Both Clueless & Patsy !!

You Know The Aldercreatures/SCUM, Revs & The Stutterring Shrimp Are Pulling The Strings On This Muppet Show Downtown !!

5/02/2008 04:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

O.T. Another march to further the cause of illegal Mexican immigrants took place Thursday. Once again they were demanding their "rights" to medical care, education, welfare, etc. Here's a piece of advice, you feel like marching? then march to St. Francis Hospital in Blue Island and pay the medical bills that your self-entitled asses have amassed since 2002. I think the tune would be called "40 Million Dollars That American Citizens Have To Pay For Our Non-Deserving Asses." And while you are there tell the 1500 employees who are going to lose their jobs, that you have a right to mooch off this country. When you listen to these illegals, they make it sound as if American citizens are wrong for not turning the country over to them. Get your own fuckin' country fixed before you start telling us what to do. 15,000,000 illegals and nobody knows what to do with them? Buy stock in Greyhound.

5/02/2008 04:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He fired all the Command Staff that might have told him anything. Now all he has is YES be-otches! Boy he isn't worth $3.1o let alone $310,000.oo. DALEY got fucked on this deal, just like he did on that Park for over a half a billion USC, that the City owned the land. How does it cost that much to put grass down. Trup built Trup towers for less and he had to buy the land. As for the;
STUPID-ENTEDANT they could have got someone from Day Labor for about $7.oo an hr to do a job like this on the Dept.

5/02/2008 04:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

C-Mon, does this really surpise anyone?

We've always been surrounded by clout baby, knee jerk reaction bosses (Not all but a Majority!).
I really thought this guy J-Fed was on the right track when he was dumping all those clout baby pieces of shit bosses.
But let us not fool ourselves, there were a few exempt members who he neglected to get rid of, who are still bending his ear.
And not for nothing? , I despise the guy for wearing the uniform. It just aint right!

5/02/2008 05:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cant wait to reach that 15 yr mark and then chuck this place.The city is GONE if they wont let us do our jobs!!Crime will eventually spread to our nieghborhoods too and by then it is too late.

5/02/2008 06:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Or possibly both.

5/02/2008 07:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-kass-02-may02,0,6293841.column (OT) Read Kassses column today, how Eddie Burke and his clout helped a stone ass punk gang banger get off was it Burke who helped destroy SOS? There is also a video about the gang bangers castle! Thanks eddie burke and the book you wrote I would never buy it goof! Thanks for nothing eddie hey mark maybe you could let this millionaire use our hall for free some more, did he get your friends jobs? Why are you so silent? Do you even ever speak out or answer your email or phone? Why did you dump Capperelli? Who paid you off?

5/02/2008 07:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RUN TO REMEMBER

It's that time of year again folks when we need your help. It's the fourth annual Run to Remember Rhonda needs another meritorious promotion. Those of us here at 189 have heard that things are not working out as planned at Area Four. Apparently you are expected to come to work over there. They expect some police work out you. So now Rhonda needs your help to make sgt and get to a good spot. Come on out this saturday, meet some old friends, get a little exercise, and help a truly great cause. . . . help Rhonda make sgt.

5/02/2008 07:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's a quote from Charles Ramsey, the newly appointed Commissioner of Police in Philly,
"To me, in my way of thinking, everything exists to support the patrol function," Ramsey said in an interview Tuesday. "Everything. If you don't support the patrol function, I question why you exist."
I never personally worked for Ramsey when he was here, but I met him in D.C. He's a personable, likable guy who gives the impression that he is on YOUR side and will stick up for you. J-Fed could really learn alot from him, but then again Ramsey spent his entire career in the police department and is a Cop first and foremost.

5/02/2008 07:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mike Masters! Here is a guy with a degree in engineering or some such thing. A campaign worker with ties to Bill Daley. I don't think he has ever been in a police car or a police station. He is the chief of staff and his only job is to tell J-Fed what to do, via the Mayor. They hire the guy (j-fed)for 300K a year because of his alleged credentials, then people who know nothing about the police tell him what to do. Of course J-Fed has never been the police so he doesn't know any better. Daley should have hired someone someone with Police Management experience if he wanted an outsider. J-Fed should be ashamed of himself. Talking about ethics while taking the taxpayers money to do a job he is unqualified for and doing Daley's political bidding instead of the right thing.


Pallidin

5/02/2008 07:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Either he signs his hown name to these orders, which means he doesn't know shit about labor, not to mention the law, or he has given his permission to a dipshit who's either trying to get him shot or is honestly a manmade idiot.

5/02/2008 07:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder when J-Fed is going to realize that you need real street working experienced police officers in charge and not the book worm, sitting behind a desk your entire career numb-nuts that he choose to be in-charge!!!

5/02/2008 08:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Highest paid patsy at that too.

Question Mr. SCC, it seems my posts aren't posting. Have I been banned? They weren't offensive posts, I believe.

Has my ISP addy has been flagged into the delete folder, which it is certianally your perogative to do. It's your forum.

I'm just curious what, if anything, I said that's got my postings banned.

5/02/2008 08:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Debra Kirby is a real GOOF! She is NO lawyer! That is J-feds problem! Being advised by incompetence!

Get a real attorney! As a matter of fact, get one that deals with both criminal law and labor laws!

5/02/2008 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HERE IS MY TWO CENTS, FIRE F-CKFED AND HIRE, BERWYN POLICE CHIEF AND FORMER CPD WILLIAM KUSHNER AS OUR NEW SUPT. AT LEAST HE WOULD HAVE THE BACKS OF THE WORKING POLICE. HEY CHEIF IF YOU ARE OUT THERE , FELL FREE TO OFFER US YOUR OPINION.

5/02/2008 09:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PLEASE VISIT THIS ANTI OBAMA SITE AND SPREAD THIS! IT IS GREAT AND THE LEFT MEDIA DOES NOT WANT YOU TO SEE THIS! PLEASE SPREAD THIS!
Where is the anti Clinton Site. Did you know she did pro bono legal work for the Black Panthers and other radical groups? Fact!!
Keep your politics off SCC please looser. I am voting for MCcain.

5/02/2008 09:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's offical the inmates have taken over the asylum.

That is all!

5/02/2008 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DALEY !

WTF did you do?

Hired an incompetent fool to do what?

He needs constant supervision! He's NOT a leader.

The two of you are a pair.

He needs to discipline himself by stripping his pretend uniform immediately.

RESIGN NOW !

5/02/2008 10:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

****ATTENTION EFFECTIVE 7th PERIOD*****

Jody Weis citing increased violence in the city has elected to reinstate SOS. Jody Weis will gather all SOS officers in the unit at the time off disbandment and reform the unit. Get ready boys 153 is back in town.

5/02/2008 10:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the dumb ass writing about the immigration march. This comment section's topic is a bout j-Fed, not your racist views. We all know that this great country does not go into other countries and try to tell them what to do.

5/02/2008 10:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can you post any police departments either suburban or out of state that are currently looking for police officers. Maybe thier websites? Thanks, I need a new job, ....seriously.

signed, Fed-up.

5/02/2008 10:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The reason that Kirby is now General Counsel is no secret...she knows too much! J-Fed can't afford to have her telling what she knows to the Feds or anyone else. Talk about job security!

5/02/2008 10:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, how if anything does this effect po's like Garza who is up the creek? not to mention the arresting officers of 008?

5/02/2008 10:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

True story...

Wife: "Honey, dinner's ready."

Husband/PO: "In a minute."

Ten minutes goes by....

Wife: "Honey, what are you doing?"

Husband/PO: "Work stuff."

8-year old daughter: "No, he's not Mom...he's on ANONYMOUS SAID again!"

Too freaking funny.....

5/02/2008 10:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CPD is currently being run by J-Fed, Brust, Daly, Masters and Monique Bond.

Not one one of them has a day of experience as a police officer.

The Deputy Superintendents and Chiefs have absolutely no institutional knowledge on how to run the organization.

The institution has a General Counsel and head of IAD who are impressed with their titles but are failures with their leadership and guidance.

But who will take the blame, the poor slob who is on the street!

5/02/2008 11:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not trying to patronize SSC.
That being said; let me say this.
Thank Goodness for this site.
It's the only place, I know or, where one can go for the "True Fact's".
I hope the newes media, and the political administration of this city read this stuff.
PS: What do you think of "His Honor's" double speak, at the immigration rally?

5/02/2008 11:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heard the Dept is sending double the amount of IAD for the Cinco Demayo Fest than normal. It seems that the powers that be decided to have enforcement at all types of community events and this one is know for excessive drinking...

5/02/2008 11:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

P.S. is revrend Wright going to go by his friend "Mikes " house tonight?

5/02/2008 12:58:00 AM

You mean Father Mike Phleger?

5/02/2008 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PS, just cause they recind it does not mean they won't follow thru with it. Maybe that order was never meant for general publication....

5/02/2008 01:41:00 AM

Are you a moron? Or just a conspiracy theorist?

The notification has to be made at the district level, try to keep that a secret...

5/02/2008 11:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Personally I think he needs to get rid of Kirby. She singlehandedly has screwed up IAD to the point that it will take well over a year to restore any crumb of credibility there. The handling of the SOS scandal was abysmal, the needless stripping of officers for minor shit has done more to hurt morale in the past 2 years than anything I can think of for the past 20. Why in God's name he appointed her his general counsel is still one of the great Chicago mysteries, one that will haunt J-Fed as he flees this shithole of a city sometime early next year (my prediction).


Her ineptitude on purpose or mistake as well as that of IAD kept a lot of cops from getting in serious trouble for a long time. She played ball by killing numbers and botching investigations and was rewraded for it.

5/02/2008 11:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RUN TO REMEMBER

It's that time of year again folks when we need your help. It's the fourth annual Run to Remember Rhonda needs another meritorious promotion. Those of us here at 189 have heard that things are not working out as planned at Area Four. Apparently you are expected to come to work over there. They expect some police work out you. So now Rhonda needs your help to make sgt and get to a good spot. Come on out this saturday, meet some old friends, get a little exercise, and help a truly great cause. . . . help Rhonda make


LOL this is so true! But dont kid yourself she is still not and never has done police work.

5/02/2008 11:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They don't need no stinking badges at cinco de mayo. It's a made up holiday like sweetest day. Let them police themselves and we can clean up the rest.

5/02/2008 11:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Ever see the movie Office Space? J Fed looks like the boss... Riiiiight...

5/01/2008 11:26:00 PM

LUMBERG? I KNOW A LUMBERG!

5/02/2008 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JODI PLEASE DO NOT ATTEND ST. JUDE. OUR FELLOW BORTHERS AND SISTERS THAT HAVE PASSED DO NOT WANT YOU THERE. ESPECIALLY IN OUR UNIFORM

5/02/2008 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great

Now can J-Clown rescind the no booze order? I need a beer!

5/02/2008 12:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
How come they can do DNA on Felix in 49 days, but it takes 830 days to do a DNA on a sexual assault or homicide victim? DNA is DNA. I called.

5/01/2008 09:16:00 AM

good point, because animals are more important than regular people. why do you think the projects get so much police service?

5/02/2008 12:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pallidin

5/02/2008 07:45:00 AM




VERY good summation.

5/02/2008 01:07:00 PM  
Blogger Rue St. Michel said...

All you need to know about J-Fed can be divined from his Pax501 photograph.

Yikes!

Go away Corky! You're scaring the neighborhood children...

Daley wouldn't have someone in their who could think, talk and act independent of City Hall. That's the whole point. He's just one more "yes-man" in a long chain of sycophants down at HQ.

5/02/2008 01:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

j-fED IS " THE HEAD GOOSE IN THE FLIGHT OF THE s*%t BIRDS"

5/02/2008 01:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LET THE BODYS HIT THE FLOOR LET THE BODYS HIT THE FLOOR.

5/02/2008 01:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When do we get our rifles?

5/02/2008 02:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's a quote from Charles Ramsey, the newly appointed Commissioner of Police in Philly,
"To me, in my way of thinking, everything exists to support the patrol function," Ramsey said in an interview Tuesday. "Everything. If you don't support the patrol function, I question why you exist."
I never personally worked for Ramsey when he was here, but I met him in D.C. He's a personable, likable guy who gives the impression that he is on YOUR side and will stick up for you. J-Fed could really learn alot from him, but then again Ramsey spent his entire career in the police department and is a Cop first and foremost.

5/02/2008 07:41:00 AM


Oh brother! Or, oh sister! You got hornswaggled and bullshitted by one of the best! Did your impression make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside when he was done with you? That is his standard, but he has absolutely no substance, no depth and no sincerity. If you only knew this guy. He is a 20 mile wide by 12 inch swatch of 1/8th inch thick cow crap. And he dirtied himself up real good while here at CPD.

Why do you think he did not apply for J-DUMB's job? He got the word, do not bother to embarass yourself because there is no chance. This guy didn't want to be in DC. He was only there because he was dissed here for the superintendent's job back in 1998. And he doesn't want to be in Philadelphia either. He desperately wants to come home to a hero's welcome and be the Superintendent, but how would it look if the ex-CPD and 10year DC wonder applied for Chicago and did NOT get it?

Before you put your stamp of approval on the freckled face messiah, check around and learn who his closest associates were while he was on CPD, then you will know what disasterous route this job would take if he was at the helm. And yes, it could even be worse than J-GOOF.

One chance meeting with this guy shaking your hand and staring in your eyes should not be sufficient for you to recommend him, regardless of where he spent his career.

5/02/2008 02:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look at the set up at the Feds. No one individual can make a decesion. All are afraid to make a decesion. It is done my committee and with the approval of the US Attorney's Office. Police Officers, most of us, operate singularly or with a partner on the street. The supt. cannot connect to this idea. Rifles, SUVs, 12 hour days, hell we have operated with out these for years ad still keep a lid on this city inspite of the mayor backdooring us all along the way. Can you imagine the FBI heading west and challenging the wilderness in the 1800s. They would all be dead of stupidity within a few miles. J-Feds mindset will never work in this town or any other big city. He cannot think as an idividual and cannot take advise.

5/02/2008 03:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard a rumor that at the Arab Mayors Conference which is downtown that the higher ups put out dogfood for the troops to eat. I am not kidding, can someone confirm?

5/02/2008 03:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT:
What are the bids looking like that came out today???

5/02/2008 03:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Abatte pushes around a bar tender and gets busted. My moral is low...not!

SOS gets busted for lying on an arrest report. My moral is low...not!

Finnegan and friends get busted for home invasions and shaking down idiots. My moral is low...not!

Haleas gets busted for falisfying dui's. My moral is low...not!

Will someone please show me a copper that got locked up or thrown under a bus for doing his job?

5/02/2008 03:46:00 PM  
Blogger Det. Shaved Longcock said...

I am sure that before its over, there will be an order that rescinds Jody Weis as the Chicago Police Supt!

5/02/2008 03:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IT'S ABOUT TIME !!!!!!!!

FROM TODAYS PAPER, MOMS ARE TAKEN SOME RESPONSIBILITY......S. SIDE | Moms team up to battle influence of gangs: 'We didn't raise our kids this way'

5/02/2008 04:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That Illegal alien love fest, I mean march was so bad. In all my time on the job I have never seen a total lack of management! No bosses up top made any decisions or orders, as a P.O. I was sickened at what has happened to a proud department. P.O's walking and talking and hanging around not being told where and what to do. I dont blame the Sgts and Lt's they were waiting too. What a sad day.

5/02/2008 04:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

j-fed has fucked himself forever with the handling of bill cozzi. no real police officer i know will ever toe the line to this j/o. only the suckholes and lemmings will lick this guys boots. mr weis, you are persona non grata amongst the patrol division. pack your bags and leave.

5/02/2008 04:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT. Hey get your story straight
--------------------------------

Did you ever work for Murphy? I did, and I'd do it again if he comes back. My partner worked with him in 007 and said he was the real police. I hope he does come back as Deputy Supt!
--------------------------------

So which is it? Did you work with him or didn't you?

If you did, then why did your partner who worked with him in 007 have to tell you that he was the real police. You would know what he is all about.


You probably have never even seen him and you don't know who he really is. So STFU ASSHAT

5/02/2008 04:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

be very careful what you say on the phone to another copper. Fed's are tapping phone lines of p.o.'s that they are investigating and stripping p.o.'s for petty shit no lie.

5/02/2008 05:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

J-FED has absolutely no idea what he's doing.


HE HAS NO AUTHORITY TO TELL THE STATE'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHAT TO DO!

He has no authority to make the ASA's office check over misdemeanors for possible felony approval. He has no authority to bring coppers before a grand jury. He has no authority to purchase weapons, or cars, or new police officers. He has no authority to change the work schedule that is part of a collective bargaining agreement.

ULTIMATELY, HE HAS NO AUTHORITY TO FIRE POLICE OFFICERS. That final decision is left to the Police Board.

He is used to being a fed. A fed that is constantly sucking on the tit of a Asst. US Attorney, who, like his mommy, told him what to do and gave him what he needed to do it.

In the federal system, the AUSA's are in charge of investigations and they tell the enforcement people (FBI, DEA, ATF) what to do, when to do it, how to do it, when to start, and when to stop.

J-FED's new mommy is the mayor.

And J-FED is all confused because mommy ain't giving him shit.

5/02/2008 05:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It just shows that he don't know how to run a large dept.

5/02/2008 05:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with the earlier poster. Not suffering a morale problem here regarding the mentioned units and people.

My morale has suffered over the years with numerous meritus(Martinez inpersonation not typo) promotions. Have worked with several who have been promoted to various positions whos only qualifications were thru blood or marriage.

What else besides the blatant corruption in this city should have my morale down. Go to roll call- coffee- lunch- answer the radio- check off.

Laugh about all the single moms who cant work anything besides the desk

5/02/2008 06:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mike Masters! Here is a guy with a degree in engineering or some such thing. A campaign worker with ties to Bill Daley. I don't think he has ever been in a police car or a police station. He is the chief of staff and his only job is to tell J-Fed what to do, via the Mayor. They hire the guy (j-fed)for 300K a year because of his alleged credentials, then people who know nothing about the police tell him what to do. Of course J-Fed has never been the police so he doesn't know any better. Daley should have hired someone someone with Police Management experience if he wanted an outsider. J-Fed should be ashamed of himself. Talking about ethics while taking the taxpayers money to do a job he is unqualified for and doing Daley's political bidding instead of the right thing.


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I have nothing against civilians and am not speaking of anyone's qualifications. I just wondered if everyone realized that a large portion of our Command Staff (the people who make decisions that affect us) are either civilian, or civilian retired FBI or civilian retired CPD. Prior to this regime, any civilian exempt member except for the DS and ADS of BAS were classified as Directors. Also, we previously had only 5 civilian exempt positions. Now we have 12 total. And ALL these positions except for three positions are now classified with SWORN titles!!! Retired policemen getting police pensions and sworn Commander, Chief, DC, and DS salaries. Isn't that double dipping into our pension? I wonder about that?

I just found it interesting that we have added so many new exempt spots and only eliminated two exempt spots - the Supt's Commander spot and the DS of CSA. Obviously we have alot more money that we have been led to believe. Yet I hear that our brothers, the sworn exempt are forced to take several days off because the city needs to conserve money. I don't understand. I hope all these salaries make a difference, since they are all taking a huge bite out of our pensions.

Civilian Exempt:
Jody Weis (retired FBI) Sworn Superintendent
Ted O'Keefe - Civilian, Sworn DS, BAS
Marvin Shear - (retired PO) Sworn ADS - BAS
Pat Daley - (retired FBI) Sworn Chief, BSD
Mike Masters - (civilian) Sworn Chief of Staff
Brian Murphy - (resigned mayor's office civilian) Sworn Deputy Chief - Not sure what Bureau he is assigned to.
Robert Roman - (retired Sgt.) Sworn Commander, First Deputy's Office
Civilian from City Hall - Sworn Commander of Personnel
James Hickey - (retired Lt.) Asst. Director, R&D
Rachel Johnson - (civilian) Director, R&D
Terry Fogerty - (retired PO) Sworn Commander, General Support
Frank Wilson - (civilian) Director, Finance Division

These civilian positions are setting policy for the rest of us who came through the ranks. How can a civilian "Commander" of Personnel be in charge of Detective investigations of personnel?

I guess if you're hired as a PO you will retire as one.

5/02/2008 06:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just got a call saying that I am starting sgts class monday even though I didn't even take the test. Just Kidding.

What a bullshit rumor.

5/02/2008 06:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I forgot some other folks because there's too many civilians to keep up with... make that 19 civilian exempt members. Retired sworn should be paying into our pension if they now have sworn positions although they are civilian. I wonder where the retired FBI will be getting their pensions when they leave our department in exempt positions?

Peter Brust - (retired FBI) Sworn DS, IAD
Monique Bond - (civilian) Director of News Affairs
Harold Hohm - (retired commander) Chief, Helicopter Unit
Beverly Jackson - (civilian) Director, Professional Counseling
Kimberley O'Connell-Doyle - (civilian) Director, Employee Resources
Bonnie Amado - (civilian) Director, Facilities Mgmt
Joseph Murphy - (retired commander) Director, Forensic Services

5/02/2008 07:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"To the dumb ass writing about the immigration march. This comment section's topic is a bout j-Fed, not your racist views. We all know that this great country does not go into other countries and try to tell them what to do.

5/02/2008 10:43:00 AM"


You have a point; however, this country doesn't have millions of it's citizens going into other countries in violation of those other countries' laws, to get the benefits of those other countries' taxpayer financed government assistance programs, employment opportunities, and to insist that, not being citizens of those other countries, still have all the rights and privileges of those who are citizens of those other countries.

Why do you suppose that is?

5/02/2008 07:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok you finger-pointing f...
You want to know what cops got in trouble for doing their job??
You must be a moron. Or are you assigned to IAD? Talking like that , I hope you are not. There are plenty of guys/gals over there who like sticking it to a copper.
Call-back has many cops who were accused of wrong-doing by multiple-arrested individuals for the sake of pay-back.
And as far as your list-do not be so quick to convict-fat lady has to sing...
you are no team player-shame on u !

5/02/2008 07:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting personnel order about a week ago! Kirbys buddies headed to Legal Affairs.
Hmmmm that last name sounds real familiar-didnt an SOS guy have that last name?? Can you say funnel some info regarding numbers coming into IAD??
Is the broom out doing some spring-cleaning ? Or is it just being swept under the already dirty rug?

5/02/2008 07:30:00 PM  
Blogger leomemorial said...

off topic!!

You're not going to believe this however... the Event Director @ the Hilton downtown has let me borrow some extremely NICE camera equipment for St Jude!! He gave me blank tapes... everything today!! I met him once at a s/w side meeting not long ago.

So... I hope to see all you beautiful people early this Sunday. I have one day to figure out how to use this equipment! You see, there are many people out here that appreciate what you do. The people at the Hilton were MORE then happy to donate these items and were talking positively about you when I went there today :)

5/02/2008 08:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RUN TO REMEMBER

It's that time of year again folks when we need your help. It's the fourth annual Run to Remember Rhonda needs another meritorious promotion. Those of us here at 189 have heard that things are not working out as planned at Area Four. Apparently you are expected to come to work over there. They expect some police work out you. So now Rhonda needs your help to make sgt and get to a good spot. Come on out this saturday, meet some old friends, get a little exercise, and help a truly great cause. . . . help Rhonda make


LOL this is so true! But dont kid yourself she is still not and never has done police work.

5/02/2008 11:49:00 AM


...and both of you...don't kid yourself...she still won't date you and never will...
She's done more police work out there than most of the people, all men I know of you morons. As usual, a mans way of thinking. What have either of you donr for the families of fallen officers or thier families? What I thought....

5/02/2008 09:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
be very careful what you say on the phone to another copper. Fed's are tapping phone lines of p.o.'s that they are investigating and stripping p.o.'s for petty shit no lie.

5/02/2008 05:06:00 PM

Very true,word has it that some PO's may have seriously hurt themselves via testilying and that phone records and conversations have them locked up good. They are heavy but the G has them if they push things hard,they gone. They got one copper fired already,wait and see.

5/02/2008 09:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Check out this site and look who is still our boss.


http://www.chicagopolice.org/index.html

5/02/2008 04:08:00 AM
Yeah, and the pictures of Doty and Crump-Hales with there upsidedown DemocRATic pins are still on the intranet. Someone is not doing their job going through this site.

Keep the heat on, SCC!

5/02/2008 09:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Either he signs his hown name to these orders, which means he doesn't know shit about labor, not to mention the law, or he has given his permission to a dipshit who's either trying to get him shot or is honestly a manmade idiot.

5/02/2008 07:56:00 AM

Good sources say he DID NOT know about that order (just like he did not know about the swipe out order)
If this is true, he needs to SH*t can someone down there who is doing the wrong thing in his name. HEY J-FED, THEY DON'T COME UP WITH THAT MANY AFMN MESSAGES, how about reading them before they go out signed by you? for $35 an hour 24/7 I think you should be able to handle that.....

5/02/2008 09:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoever keeps posting over and over and calling people "loosers," learn how to spell. Loser!

5/02/2008 09:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Abatte pushes around a bar tender and gets busted. My moral is low...not!

SOS gets busted for lying on an arrest report. My moral is low...not!

Finnegan and friends get busted for home invasions and shaking down idiots. My moral is low...not!

Haleas gets busted for falisfying dui's. My moral is low...not!

Will someone please show me a copper that got locked up or thrown under a bus for doing his job?

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First off, do you mean moral or morale? I think you mean morale. How about Bill Cozzi? A one count federal indictment! Come on. You make a mistake and they come after you and your livelihood. I know, you have never made a mistake?

5/02/2008 10:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OFF TOPIC:

Hey 22nd district unit that was writing parkers up and down Hamlin Ave from 103 to 107 on Friday evening: That's fine. But it would be nice if you pussies actually did some POLICE WORK over here in the ten sector!

There's plenty of dope being sold by white trash and there's plenty of wanna-be jagoff gangbangers roaming on foot. Why don't you go through them or maybe set up on a dope spot?

I had to buy a city sticker so I believe that everyone should have one as well. My point, however, is that I never see a fucking unit over here at all! If you are going to write the citizens over here (mainly cops and fire), then at least give us some fucking police service.

I missed your beat tag because I see poor at night with glasses on. If I could have grabbed it I would call you out by number you handjob!

5/02/2008 10:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

J-Fed is bringing good looking women to 35th street? Would this be legitimately good looking women or "cop pretty" good looking women who garner attention because the police (at least out south) look at shit all day long?

5/02/2008 10:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It just shows that he don't know how to run a large dept.

5/02/2008 05:17:00 PM

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Bingo!!

5/02/2008 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CONGRATS to all the new Sgts!!!!!!!!!!

5/02/2008 10:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WE should all get together and sue J-FED for violating our contractual rights over and over again.


on what grounds? Always crying sue, sue,sue. Bunch of goofs. Daley and company own the courts. And you are not going to federal court. Sue Sue Sue WHAT GROUNDS,You will do nothing

5/02/2008 10:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

J-Weasle you have no idea what your doing,you have retards advising you,you have done nothing to help us since you started impersonating a police superintendent,you seem only interested in the past and hurting po's,you alone have made morale the worst in history and will go down as the worst supe in history,i'm sure you don't give a fuck as you laugh all the way to the bank on $25,000 a month,i hope you or your fellow feds trip up and cause a scandal so daley and the media jump on it and force your pathetic never police ass out of town,GFY u POS JO MF

5/02/2008 11:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

any names of the people that got dumped in the tru

5/02/2008 11:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ot ramsey was/is a jag. should of been indicted with his other exempts years ago on a drug investigation.

to replace Kirby: my voye goes to "pretty girl"

another brew here bartender

5/03/2008 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A wise old Captain with 30+ years once told me that City Hall knew that they made the right choice for a new District Commander when they received a shitload of calls and complaints from all factions(cops, politicians, community organizations, etc). That was validated their new selection. Our new Supt. seems to follow that line of thinking. It appears that the new guy has all of us work up into a full lather, which is exactly what Daley wanted. Calm down, do your job, and let the dust settle. This job is not a 100 yard dash, its a marathon - pace yourself.

5/03/2008 12:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...and both of you...don't kid yourself...she still won't date you and never will...
She's done more police work out there than most of the people, all men I know of you morons. As usual, a mans way of thinking. What have either of you donr for the families of fallen officers or thier families? What I thought....

5/02/2008 09:13:00 PM"


I love it when a broad throws a hissy fit and tries to rant like a man......

5/03/2008 01:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

STUPID-ENTEDANT they could have got someone from Day Labor for about $7.oo an hr to do a job like this on the Dept.

5/02/2008 04:58:00 AM

....and he/she would have been bi-lingual to boot!

5/03/2008 01:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least there havn't been any posts from runway ron.

5/03/2008 05:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL this is so true! But dont kid yourself she is still not and never has done police work.
5/02/2008 11:49:00 AM

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And check out any races in the city, she NEVER runs in any of them!
Phony PO - Phony Runner

5/03/2008 06:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Marvin Shear - (retired PO) Sworn ADS - BAS
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This guy NEVER was a Police Officer.
Always has been a civilian.
Always has been a str*ke.

5/03/2008 06:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 5/02/08 3:12:00AM : The last time the FLOP organized a march on city hall about 200 members showed up...I dont expect anything different if it would happen again...We are not that strong/organized and the city knows it and the FLOP is blowing the city so they wont help....Nice try though.

5/03/2008 06:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WE SHOULD ORGANIZE OURSELVES AND MARCH ON CITY HALL AND FOP HEADQUARTERS. YOU KNOW IT WOULD BE ALL OVER THE NEWS, NO DOUBT.
MAYBE FR. NANGLE WILL LEAD US.

5/03/2008 10:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will someone please show me a copper that got locked up or thrown under a bus for doing his job?


how about the time after a car pursuit/crash.. the active resister swallowed his dope, went into cardiac and was dead before the ambulance got there..the boys from MA stated "these cops killed him" how the WC said to my face,"better get a good lawyer" and how the ME ruled it a homicide. and only after years of investigation and the law suit.. did the truth come out and we ALL are still here and No pay out from the city.. sure it turned out RIGHT. but the BUS was big and it was dark under there.

I have many more but I can't meet you for a drink in my backyard
cause dad will get mad, and uncle richie has been looking at me funny

5/03/2008 11:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rhonda was meritorious??? Are you sure, because I think she scored well on the test, just like all the other 193/189 hacks.....E.Reyes...and ALL the other chosen ones...ha!!!!!!!!!!!

5/03/2008 01:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love it when a broad throws a hissy fit and tries to rant like a man......

5/03/2008 01:16:00 AM

...Yeah and I love it when a man can't go nowhere and wines like a little b*5tch!...that's all I got to say..idiot.

5/03/2008 02:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
WE SHOULD ORGANIZE OURSELVES AND MARCH ON CITY HALL AND FOP HEADQUARTERS. YOU KNOW IT WOULD BE ALL OVER THE NEWS, NO DOUBT.
MAYBE FR. NANGLE WILL LEAD US.

5/03/2008 10:58:00 AM

you know I wish more coppers would get involved. the last time we held a march downtown a couple years back at city hall, I was there. Of course Daley wasnt there, infact he got wind of the march and he didnt come into the office at all. lots of union workers other than police but when I counted the heads that I knew were the police, it was less than 100. Damn shame.

5/03/2008 05:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Meritorious Rhonda...Do some work and quit your whining..

5/03/2008 06:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 5/02/2008 12:52:00 AM

Abbott and Costello were 2 guys not 3

5/03/2008 09:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, and the pictures of Doty and Crump-Hales with there upsidedown DemocRATic pins are still on the intranet. Someone is not doing their job going through this site.


Man did you hear crump talking on the news what a bumbling idiot. and i don't know her.
and i saw rick flair hiding in the back round he sure does love the spotlight

5/04/2008 10:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I still have faith in Jody Weis. I just think that he is going through the growing pains that one would experience when one starts a totally new endeavor. Over time he will be good and he will be a very good Chief of Police.

5/04/2008 04:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You have a point; however, this country doesn't have millions of it's citizens going into other countries in violation of those other countries' laws, to get the benefits of those other countries' taxpayer financed government assistance programs, employment opportunities, and to insist that, not being citizens of those other countries, still have all the rights and privileges of those who are citizens of those other countries.

Why do you suppose that is?

5/02/2008 07:10:00 PM

You sound EXACTLY like two of the people on my block who constantly rant about illegal aliens. However, they have a mechanic who is an illegal, the lawn service they use is made up of illegals, the two Polish guys they use to fix their house are illegals, the maid service they use is full of illegals, etc.... In short, on the one hand, they rant and rave about illegals in our nation. But they LOVE the cheap labor/services provided by illegals. If most people in the U.S. of A. didn't use the labor/services of illegals then they all wouldn't earn a thin dime and thus go back to their homes. Like it or not, illegals are part of America and people like you who rant about illegals use their labor/services and thus you are part of the problem and thus a hypocrite.

5/04/2008 04:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love it when a broad throws a hissy fit and tries to rant like a man......

5/03/2008 01:16:00 AM

Listen you idiot and listen good. Women can do this job as well as a man can. That is a fact and you need to accept it. Women can kick ass, talk dirty, get drunk, etc... just like you guys can.

5/04/2008 05:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Listen you idiot and listen good. Women can do this job as well as a man can. That is a fact and you need to accept it.

5/04/2008 05:18:00 PM

Not once in 17 years have I seen this to be true. Not even close.

5/04/2008 10:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Clueless doesn't even begin to describe this J-Fed character that has been inflicted upon our department and here's just one more illustration of that fact: at this morning's St. Jude's parade, J-Fed didn't even know which hand to use for a salute - - I kid you not... I was right there by him from the time he stepped up on the podium and this fool had to 1.) be corrected when he used the wrong hand to salute AND 2.) he had to be reminded to put on his white gloves. Now granted, this was his first parade BUT C'MON... how do you make it past the age of 10 and not know how to salute??? And, you see 10,000 people wearing white gloves and you have to have one of your henchman remind you to put on your pair?

5/04/2008 10:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey... is it just me or does J-Fed look like something Dr. Frankenstein made in his lab?

5/04/2008 10:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Listen you idiot and listen good. Women can do this job as well as a man can. That is a fact and you need to accept it.

5/04/2008 05:18:00 PM

Not once in 17 years have I seen this to be true. Not even close.

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Then you're working in the wrong districts friend. There's a few out there - look around.

5/04/2008 10:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Women can kick ass, talk dirty, get drunk, etc... just like you guys can.

5/04/2008 05:18:00 PM"


And you actually think that that is what makes a man a man?

Typical broad mentality.

5/04/2008 11:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Like it or not, illegals are part of America and people like you who rant about illegals use their labor/services and thus you are part of the problem and thus a hypocrite.

5/04/2008 04:53:00 PM"


Sorry, buddy, but I don't ever hire anyone to do anything for me, I'm a do-it-yourself kind of guy.

Granted, you do make a few valid points, those being:

Too many citizens are all to happy to purchase products and services for much less than they would ever perform such services or produce such products themselves.

But it's not the American worker who is most guilty, it's the mentality of wanting to get something for nothing.

We all have no problem with 'earning' dividends on our stocks, yet ignore the means by which our corporations provide those dividends.

We all want lower insurance premiums, yet ignore the fact that much of the capitol insurance companies have comes from investments in the very corporations which have both exported the labor that makes their products or provides their services, and/or from investments in investment companies that do the same.

It's a vicious circle, lower wages lead to more debt and the need to pay less for goods and services, which supports the corporations' exporting of jobs and importing of cheaper goods, which leads to even lower wages, if any, and more debt and willingness to buy those cheaper goods and services, etc.....

We've dug our own hole and have only ourselves to blame for how deep it's become.

So, while you are correct, that doesn't make it right for those who are not citizens to claim they deserve all of the benefits of citizens, whether they are paying taxes or not.

How many of our fellow citizens have no problem with paying 'cash' to those 'less expensive' workers they regularly employ, either directly, as the employer, or indirectly, as the customer of the employer?

It ends up being the unavoidable contradiction between a free market economy and getting a 'good deal'.

The sword always has two cutting edges.

5/04/2008 11:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...J-Fed saluted with the wrong hand..."

I call bullshit on this one. He was an officer in the army. Maybe he was late putting on the white gloves, but who really cares?

5/05/2008 07:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Listen you idiot and listen good. Women can do this job as well as a man can. That is a fact and you need to accept it. Women can kick ass, talk dirty, get drunk, etc... just like you guys can.


> can I get your number ?...I love you trailer trash chicks.

5/05/2008 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Memo to 5/03/2008 06:43:00 AM

ADS Marv Shear was the "Police" contrary to what you say. As a tactical officer in the 20th District back in the early 70's he and his partner Lee Eplen led the team in arrests for 18 straight months. He then went to the Traffic Division in the late 70's after suffering a heart attack. The man is a CPA and is probably one of a handfull of people in the City who truly understands the budget process.

As my mother told me years ago young man "if you can't say something nice about someone, don't say anthing."

Before you open your mouth about someone take the time and effort to find out who that person really is.

Signed

Tom Dudek - Retired CPD

5/05/2008 05:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, call "Bullshit" on what I said if you want but I was standing right there and saw it. We laughed our asses off because of that very fact...he certainly should have known how to salute and our take on it was that he was nervous he was didn't know what he was doing - - and that was a lousy parade - - what if it were something really critical? He cracks under the smallest pressure was the point.

5/05/2008 07:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Not once in 17 years have I seen this to be true. Not even close."


Maybe if you got out from behind your desk at 3510 or where ever and worked the street you would....

Housecat.

5/07/2008 08:53:00 AM  

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