What GPS Tracks
According to a few letter writers, it tracks everything:
- Engine on or off
- Idling in place
- Parked
- Speed
- Emergency Equipment activation
It's an every 15 second ping system and it's accurate to within a dozen feet or so. Be careful out there.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
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THEY WIN........It was fun while it lasted.
Unless they;ve changed it from the SOS design, it is a complete sham, its only used for discipline! If they were able to access the location immediately for officer safety then I'm all for it, but they will only use it to track an officer's activity, how long an officer is on a job etc. This may come into play with the new rating system, watch out. How an officer uses his/her time efficiently/effectively.
If they use it in the name of officer safety, then they need to prove that it has that capability.
GPS PRICE PER VEHICLE: $1500.00 est.
PRICE OF ALUMINUM FOIL: $2.99
KEEPING YOUR PRIVACY: PRICELESS
A big warning for the violent crimes detective.
Some "may" in the last stopped at their home for a few hours of sleep when working 24 or even 48 hours straight on a serious violent crime, especially when an offender is in custody and your trying to beat the new 48 hour rule.
Don't think for a second that your OT slip isn't going to be reviewed by IAD and compared to your assigned vehicle's GPS.
This not a thought that came to me, it was information told straight to me from an Auditing and Internal Control assigned officer.
BE FOREWARNED: Don't be called on the carpet for being on overtime and having the car "Pinged" at your residence. Sleep in the car in the parking lot if you need to refresh for a short bit.
We are now in an era of "no secret is safe" anymore.
The City's budget is hurting and anybody who think that they are rushing to put GPS systems in detective cars purely for your safety, well have another glass of Koolaide.
And I know some cops are going to respond with BS about dicks taking a short nap while working. Let me say ahead of time, until you get stuck working long cases, media intense cases, police shootings or murders....STFU!
As a Detective myself, there are days you come to work with little or no sleep, from one of your children sick to other family emergencies. I rather have a detective take a small nap when "forced" to work long hours on a case then have one smash up a squad and die because they were too sleepy.
R.I.P. Proactive Policing
But how many fish can it find?
No more early ducks. I guess there will be a lot of cars running in the garage at the station. Sorry boss, I had to poop!!!
A FRIENDLY WARNING TO ALL
1. The GPS system is a database.
2. The PCAD system is a database.
3. Any database can be queried.
It's been mentioned at various times that the CPD doesn't have the man power to check what every car is up to.
They don't NEED man power! All they need is one programmer to write a script with the proper criteria.
Within a matter of minutes, if it takes that long, a properly written script can identify each and ever anomaly for ever car in the city.
I don't know and can't say if the department will implement such an automated process, but it certainly is possible.
Don't let your guard down for one minute!
Engine on or off
Idling in place
Parked
Speed
Emergency Equipment activation
Also SCC it tracks a passenger in the passenger seat via airbag on sensor, when you reverse, it can be set to track everytime a door is opened and closed, it tracks when brakes were applied like during an accident, if turn signals were activated! The most advanced system for the most stone aged dept with junk cars! $1,000 sysytem in a $400 rent-a-wreck car! Are you shitting me? Who will be passing daley and/or the alderthieves the "contract rebates"? In the ever present sealed envelope?
The amount of information sent is immense. There is no way this information will be looked at unless there is a problem.
The way I look at it. It is there car and they can do what ever they want with it. The days of hitting the hole for a few hours on 1st watch are over.
At TRU the old style GPS Trackers are being removed and a different model is being installed. As of now no one seems to know or is willing to tell us what the difference is. Reportedly the new system costs less to monitor and operate, so it may have fewwer bells and whisles.
wrong scc, we were told by the third in command that its accurate to within a meter, a meter.
f the GPS......what I need is a P...D......T !!!
THAT WORKS!!!!!
Micromanagement will not fix this broken department, it will only exacerbate the worst.
I will be idiling in place most of my tour in 011 reading. What you ask? The "general orders" of course.
The steady decline of activity in 011 will only get wrose. thanks J-fed and aunt bea.
All this means is to De-police!
The city drags their feet to settle our contract, but spend good money on bullshit!
Then the wonder why activity is down!
With this huge budget deficit, wouldn't the city hate for the media to find out that the taxpayers are paying some connected company $0.0XX PER FUCKING PING!!!! each GPS unit pings 4x per minute. please someone find out our ping's going rate and who the company is - then compare that to a reputable company and their going rate.
Surveillance and foot patrols my friends. Surveillance and foot patrols.
That is all.
Well they think this is "cute" haha cute is going to be the result of police not policing...wow what a difference a decade makes!
We don't have computers that work -but we have GPS. We have radios that don't work - but we have GPS.
There are no pools cars - but we have GPS. The city won't give us our well deserved contract - but we have GPS. The Supe says GPS is for our safety? Who does he think he's kidding? DUH
GPS: Been there, done that. Don't want to go back.
It's for nothing but to spy on the police and to make money for the Daley-connected Contract holders. Will do very little else despite the hype.
As a Detective myself, there are days you come to work with little or no sleep, from one of your children sick to other family emergencies.
those in public accounting routinely work 80-90 hrs per week in tax season 1/1-4/15. our kids get sick as well. naps not permitted. taking your work car home and sleeping while on duty is wrong. you knew the deal when you applied for the job. if you're working during work hours why care if they know where you are?
As I mentioned in my "Largish Posting Day" comment - Who is guaranteeing the security of all this data? How long before every criminal in the city knows where your car is?
912Citizen
I just found out from a reputable source that the new GPS has many more abilities than they are letting us know about.
They can record sound too, so your days of speaking freely in the squad (or cruiser if you prefer) with a trusted partner are over.
Some test vehicles are also equipped with sensors on the seats. This lets them know if there are passengers/prisoners in the vehicles. The sensors are used to record the frequency, strength and pungence of your and your partner's flatulence. The recordings will document that you did indeed rip one publicly and the appropriate disciplinary actions will be taken.
Just wanted to give you a heads up. Knowledge is power.
big brother sucks if you do anything you are a fool!
god bless
I'd call bluff. Until you get written up, ignore it. It is a clever ploy to mess with us mentally as if we are being watched so aggressively. Same deal with Inspectors, how many have you encountered in your career? I doubt that we have computer literate bosses that can prove this to work enough to do what? Spar you?
Facts: the gps is inside the new pdt's. Cars with the old ones have a unit placed in the trunk. The gps provides location data only and time stamps.
here's an interesting article from a few years back, in Milwaukee. Seems the police there weren't happy with GPS either.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=534578
So the department is telling us less is better. That will work for me.
I don't know and can't say if the department will implement such an automated process, but it certainly is possible.
Yes this will be done to those without juice. Those with juice it will be business as usual.
The amount of information sent is immense. There is no way this information will be looked at unless there is a problem.
If your one of the fair haired boys its all good, if the department is mad at you or any white shirt is after you for some petty bullshit such as refused to circumvent the constitution . These people will be relentless as far as using this against you.
1. Who care?
2. Who cares?
3. Who cares?
They're gonna use it like a stick just like everything else.
They'll never look at it until you're named in a C.R. Just don't lie.
Yeah. I was on that block at that time. No. I didn't do what the jagoff alleges.
Next.
All the more reason to park it & go on Foot Patrol.
We all know the main purpose of installing GPS on squad cars!
TO TRACK AND QUESTION YOUR EVERY MOVE!
EXAMPLE: WHY WAS YOUR CAR IDLING FOR AN HOUR BEHIND THE FACTORY..... LOL
I don't know much about GPS tracks.
But I do have a few choice words for the tracks in my tighty whiteys.
They can tell you exactly what I ate I say.
SQUAD WHEN THEY PUT THE GPS IN SESIER'S CAR, IT WILL OVERLOAD FROM ALL THE ACTIVITY AND ARRESTS FROM THE MIGHTY SEISER. REMEMBER SARAH PALIN, JOHN MCCAIN AND THE MIGHTY SEISER WILL STILL RUN IT. GO MIKE
Holy Ping Me Batman!!!
We are all going to have to deal with technology running a muck.
Instead of wasting money on tracking cops perhaps it might be more worth while to track criminals?
Get my DNA? Why? Unless you think I am committing crimes and you want to prosecute me. Or if I am a suspect, can't you get the DNA anyway? You say its for my safety? Why? Should I rape someone? Or maybe to identify my remains after a terrorist attack?
Folks big brother is breathing down our necks. We as police officers are the front line of government and we all share an occupation that will be the first to notice slight shifts toward an Orwellian World Order.
Employers will argue that they pay us to work and so our thoughts should be focused on our jobs. They will use the excuse that we must interact with others to share our thoughts in a collective network for the purposes of problem solving and information sharing. They will hook us up to a computer and we will have to share our personal thoughts with a computer. A computer recording everything your thinking and know.
In our life times, this will happen.
Our technology as helpful to mankind as it has been will be perverted and misused for ultimate power and that is to control human thought- its too tempting not to be abused. If not in America first, it will happen somewhere in the world.
Your children's FREEDOM of mind and spirit is soon to end. Their personal thoughts will no longer be theirs but shared with a computer recording and monitoring every thought. You will first see this technology emerging to help the mentally ill and criminally insane. It will seem like a good idea until they discover a way to us the technology on normal people to communicate better and faster, the shift will move to everyday use on normal free thinking people and as the technique improves our guard will be down not suspecting that we are slowing surrendering our personal freedom to this new world order.
Human behaviors will have to be controlled, illegal thoughts and behaviors will be punished in order to conform with society. Thought police will be used to monitor thoughts and the establishment of the order to began human control.
The government or power in control will say that this is necessary for your safety and security. The terrorists and criminals are out there to do us harm. The Austrian paperhanger Adolf Hitler used fear to control and gain power, he used his power over an entire country for the purpose of ruling the world. The next Hitler will take control of the world using a super computer using key strokes.
God help us all.
Welcome to the new improved fucking with tool.
Put one of these(big ones) on the transponder and your video camera.
http://unitednuclear.com/magnets.htm
Once again I hate to keep saying the same thing others p.o.'s on this blog have said, "where the fuck is the FOP on this one". If they really care about officer safety why don't they purchase new vehicles with the money used to buy those stupid GPS. Heck we don't even have pool cars(death traps) to utilize when the regular piece of shit car breaks down.
WASTE OF MONEY!!! WHERE'S OUR CONTRACT????????????????
As far as the accuracy of GPS. I have a $800 system in my boat which I use for navigation purposes. The device displays the accuracy of the present signlas in feet. I have obtained accuracy to within five feet, but keep in mind this is in open water with unubstructed views of the sky.
There is less accuracy in on land conditions do to buildings trees ect.
wrong scc, we were told by the third in command that its accurate to within a meter, a meter.
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Most of those in high command are full of it anyway.
I will still find a way to get my half hour or hour of sleep!
What the powers that be haven't told you though is that the GPS can only track the car if assigned to a Unit. In other words, if you sign on a PDT and put the unit in the proper space when signing in, the GPS can now track that unit. If you don't have a PDT, which many of us don't, they can't activate the GPS.
How about everyone shut up on this blog and stop talking about everything the legit police officer or dic does......the idiots that run this city and dept. read this site and get info from dumbasses like you....find something else to do besides sit on this blog and give away info...loose lips sink ships
If your one of the fair haired boys its all good, if the department is mad at you or any white shirt is after you for some petty bullshit such as refused to circumvent the constitution . These people will be relentless as far as using this against you.
9/16/2008 12:56:00 PM
Absolutely true. The airport goofs hammered a sgt constantly until the transfer came.
Bid on top of it.
The previous SOS and TRU GPS units are completely different. This GPS is directly tied into the PCAD system and dispatch.
There is ZERO sound capability.
I know this for a fact.
I will have to footpatrol for the fitness test. You need to stay cancer free for the insurance companies and stay away from all the radioactive equipment by interacting with the public away from the vehicle. A healthy lunch at the park with a blanket and a picnic basket (excellent CAPS). Visit all the curches, mosques, and sinaguages on the beat.
Anonymous said...
If your one of the fair haired boys its all good, if the department is mad at you or any white shirt is after you for some petty bullshit such as refused to circumvent the constitution . These people will be relentless as far as using this against you.
9/16/2008 12:56:00 PM
Absolutely true. The airport goofs hammered a sgt constantly until the transfer came.
Bid on top of it.
9/16/2008 08:22:00 PM
I worked special on days, and I know the sgt your talking about! Another sgt told me it was all the new lts doing as she wants to "show her power", Then she wonders why so many are on the medical, and with her leadership she made a great place to work the Titanic "Iceberg ahead boss", "Don't worry I am your leader it is only a small ice cube"! My friend works at the hall, and she told me "The commissioner and Mayor are not happy with her" She will be gone soon see ya! Back to the district!
Magnets work too!
Now we want more money in our contract, lift the residency req, and 80/20 retirement. But no!!! we get fucking gps, and demand for dna... What a fucked up department and the over paid who run this shit.....
Does this mean my sgt. has to stay in the district and not on his own personal shit for most of the tour?
GPS... do any of us really care?
My point is this. The vast majority of us do our jobs. Go ahead, track me. It's their car, I'm on their time abidable to their rules. Track me.
But, mind you J-Fed THIS is what you'll be tracking across the City. Travelling at posted limits to respond to ALL calls for service. And when BabyDaddy is whompin' on Shenaynay on the street & every POS on the street is calling it in, I will be responding in the same manner. And when I arrive and she is nothing more than a bloody mass on the ground you can pull my 'pings' and I will justify my actions in that I responded in a timely manner with my emergency equipment activated, following the G.O.'s and Rules of the Road. I've done nothing wrong. Watch your crime rate soar even higher than before.
Traffic stops? HA!! It's a rarity for most anymore, watch it come to a screeching halt.
Someone called bullshit on the one posters' comment (then it's own thread) about J-Fed on a rampage about us. I wonder exactly how off-target it really was. The creepy (and pudgy) lil man has got to be about ready to pop a blood vessel when he sees no matter what he tries to do to us we still win.
Keep fuckin' with us J-Fed. You've been poking at the lion thru the cage bars - SCC & SLC have unlocked the door... We're coming for you lil man... can you feel it? How many nights do you wake in a cold sweat, awakened by the nightmare you have created.
The City and 35th Street all think us mindless fools. Slowly, they are seeing the truth - don't fuck with the police, we are experts in that field and will continue to find ways to make your life a living fucking hell.
Bring on your GPS. We have no cars. We have no reliable computers. We have radios that don't make it through a tour of duty. You may think we are a bunch of morons - but you really need to take another look. We are electricians, computer geeks, military, leaders, thinkers and doers. You can't beat us Fed Boy. We are smarter than you & know how to get things done. You are a temporary boil on our asses. We were here before you & despite your best efforts - we will be here AFTER you.
We know how to use the 'system' set in place to work to our advantage. THAT is something you never expected.
You wanna GPS us? Knock yourself out. Watch the crimes rates hit never before highs. Whatcha gonna tell Dicky when he reams you a new asshole?
Do yourself a favor. Stop looking for ways to enrage your officers. Stop looking for ways to fuck with officers who want nothing more than go to work and be the 'police' again. Take the cuffs off your department. Show some faith in us. And we will show you what it really means to be CPD.
Wait a minute! I work with dicks who sit at their desk all day and do nothing with Sgts. sitting 20 feet away. Is GPS going to handle this? All those brainiacs in Headqtrs need to do is ask for their closing supp reports for the last two years. You'll see who doesn't work. Be wary of fudged stats by the sgts who "cover" for the do-nothings.
I thought Communist Russia was gone. It just moved to 35th and Michigan.
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Just get one of these like me....
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3623
So if the GPS is truly for our safety, do we put the car down if it's not working properly?
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