Off Duty Shooting - In Utah
- An off-duty Chicago police officer shot a suspect who stabbed a man, apparently at random, outside an Orem restaurant, police say.
Both the stabbing victim and the suspect were in stable condition at separate hospitals as of late Saturday morning. They're [sic] names have not been disclosed.
About 8 a.m. Saturday, a Boise man and his girlfriend were leaving the International House of Pancakes at 850 W. 1250 South. In the parking lot, Orem police said, a 33-year-old man approached the couple and somehow startled them. The man apologized, then began attacking the Boise man with a pair of scissors, police said.
An off-duty police officer saw the attack and went to help. The officer drew his gun and ordered the suspect to drop the weapon, police said. But when the suspect made another move to stab the victim, police said, the officer fired.
Well done Officer.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
63 Comments:
Calling all reverands.......
Calling all reverands.......
O wait Utah.........
LDS country.........
Nevermind............
Retired in 2003
Just be glad it wasn't Iowa, they would of gave the Chicago cop the electric chair.
Well done on the off-duty officer's part.
Must've had the rudy tootie fresh and fruitie....d-lish. Good guys 1, shit birds 0.
Great job, finally a good story about us! Hope the boss does not try to suspend of fire this hero! But then again we are talking about our exempt and politcal hack bosses!
Well done officer, I guess maybe guns really can save lives...
HR 218, The Law Enforcement Officer's Safety Act,.........................The victims should thank Goorge Bush for pushing this act
Excellent story! Great job to the officer. I'll be honest, unless my kids are with me, I'm kinda lazy about carrying a pistol off-duty. However, when I travel -- I've ALWAYS got one. It just makes good sense to me when you're in unfamiliar surroundings. How horrible would it be to stumble into a situation and not be able to protect your family when you've got the right and the ability to do so? Thing is, I get shit from other coppers about this all the time. When it comes up, they act like I'm nuts. "Why would you want to have to worry about a gun on vacation?", "Why would you want to be bothered with it in an airport?", "..or if you get pulled over out of state..", "When I'm on vacation I want to relax..". I hope a few of them read this Utah story. Sounds like a bunch of people are glad that guy was armed! Thanks for posting it.
Nothing and I mean N.O.T.H.I.N.G ever good happens when you go to an I.H.O.P. to eat. I always avoid I.H.O.P., Denny's and Red Lobster. Everytime I go to one of them it's nothing but T.R.O.U.B.L.E.! Do yourself a favor and go to McDonald's and get yourself a Big Breakfast Deluxe. Pancakes, Eggs, Hash Browns, Sausage and a tasty muffin. Now that is good eating with all the trimmings.
Under the head of "no good deed goes unpunished", I hope this officer remembered to notify the department that he fired his weapon in a timely manner. Also, is there a problem or not with him carrying his weapon, while off-duty and out of state? Not trying to start anything, honestly, don't know the answer, but I thought this was a no-no. Can anybody provide the Rule that says this is OK? BTW, good work officer - here's your 30 days suspension. . .
Excellent work Office.
Comments in the paper were supportive of the police. What the hell is wrong with our citizens? Don't answer that.
Good Job Officer!
Wait till the Mormans hear about this!
Good job, one never knows the time or place.
I am glad he had his strap with him or this could of been another off-duty homicide.
There - they treat him like the hero he is.
Here - CR Number obtained, breath test, FOP has to be called for legal rep, LA Princess and her gang of ineptitudes have to investigate.
Maybe Brigham Young was right.
Think of the positive implications of HR 218 if the officer had been retired.
My God. Another pancake related shooting. When will the madness end?
Seriously though, excellent heads up work by the officer involved. It's yet another example of why I always carry off-duty.
How long till he's charged and fired....jfed will go after him
This was made possible by someone carry a concealed weapon. Utah has had a concealed carry law since 1995. I hope the stabbing victim realizes that it should have been HIM who shot this offender. We as Peace Officers have a moral obligation to carry our guns at ALL TIMES!!!. We are the front line defense against domestic terrorism which includes pookie trying to gangster your car or wallet. Be careful out there.
Seriously though, excellent heads up work by the officer involved. It's yet another example of why I always carry off-duty.
9/15/2008 07:54:00 AM
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Be glad you can. Us poor dumb citizens have a right to be victims. When is concealed carry coming to IL? I'm sick of having the government claim that I don't have a right to protect myself.
Comments in the paper were supportive of the police. What the hell is wrong with our citizens? Don't answer that.
Different culture. They don't idolize thugs there.
Under the head of "no good deed goes unpunished", I hope this officer remembered to notify the department that he fired his weapon in a timely manner. Also, is there a problem or not with him carrying his weapon, while off-duty and out of state? Not trying to start anything, honestly, don't know the answer, but I thought this was a no-no. Can anybody provide the Rule that says this is OK? BTW, good work officer - here's your 30 days suspension. . .
9/15/2008 03:57:00 AM
I certainly hope you are not the Police. This answer does not even deserve a response, for the answer go to your local Rev., he be knowing everything anyway.
Under the head of "no good deed goes unpunished", I hope this officer remembered to notify the department that he fired his weapon in a timely manner. Also, is there a problem or not with him carrying his weapon, while off-duty and out of state? Not trying to start anything, honestly, don't know the answer, but I thought this was a no-no. Can anybody provide the Rule that says this is OK? BTW, good work officer - here's your 30 days suspension. . .
You either are a moron or not the police. Either way get a clue, Bush passed the HR 218 bill, we can carry in any of the 50 states.
BURGER KING IS THE ANSWER ! ! !
Not IHOP!
Would have been safer in Burger King............Commander Lillie
Great job, and I'm glad the copper is OK. Just think, if that would have happened here in his home town surrounded by the support of CPD, he would have been forced to blow - God forbid he had a couple of drinks before he SAVED SOMEONE'S LIFE! Then the bosses, IPRA, and IAD would run him through the wringer. And let's not forget the headlines - "Off Duty Cop Kills Man", and they'd refer to the jagoff as a "victim" in the story, too. And if the "victim" was black and the copper was white, look out. And, of course, no matter what the City would settle with the "victim's family". Sorry for the rant, but it sucks to think how much more shit would've happened to this copper if he was on his home-turf. GREAT JOB! One more for our side!
Good Job!!
the same story in the scum times would have been titled: "Rogue off-duty cop cuts down victim during breakfast with his family"
GREAT JOB OFFICE!!!!!
good job!
To the guy concerned about this taking place out of state. Better read up since at least 2005 we're allowed to carry anywhere in the country (forgot the bill #) so he has nothing to fear there.
7:26AM:
It still IS a positive event. HR218
allowed that active PO to carry thruout the Country!
The whore media in Chicago will downplay this of course...
Comments in the paper were supportive of the police. What the hell is wrong with our citizens? Don't answer that.
9/15/2008 04:14:00 AM
This one is simple:
There - Conservative Mormons
Here – Liberal Morons
Hand full of years left until the money is right, then I can pull the pin. I have a place picked out in one of those nice quite western states, WAY AWAY from Chicago, Illinois, and the corruption, liberals, and the bullshit it breeds!
God, I hope this didn't involve one the Osmond family members! They rock! Not really.
To 0357 A.M. post...Hey genius,off duty concealed carry throughout the good old USA has been around for years following 9/11, even for retired p.o.'s(dependant on following your home state's policy). So said the president of the USA. If more of us educated ourselves and used this right,we'd all be better off.
Ray "Bam Bam" Burger Wilke strikes again!!!
Good damn Joe - you are the real deal!
Quick question. Who was watching the hood (beat 2211) while you were away in Utah looking the cheese pipeline???
Under the head of "no good deed goes unpunished", I hope this officer remembered to notify the department that he fired his weapon in a timely manner. Also, is there a problem or not with him carrying his weapon, while off-duty and out of state? Not trying to start anything, honestly, don't know the answer, but I thought this was a no-no. Can anybody provide the Rule that says this is OK? BTW, good work officer - here's your 30 days suspension. . .
9/15/2008 03:57:00 AM
Yes Mr. Daley, we CAN carry anywhere in the United States. It's called the federal law HR-218. I know you've never heard of it because federal laws don't apply in shittycago but in other parts of the country they still believe and respect them.
Heard Daley went crazy when we were allowed to carry throughout the US by the new law. He lobbied against it just as much as the lifting of the eventual gun ban. Its esy when you have armed security around the clock to protect you and your family. When States Attorney he used to carry a snub for protection. Im sure he is concerned this Utah offender is going to sue the city of Chicago. City will settle for $500,000 and move on just how they handle all suits against the city.
Question:
You shoot a subject out of state - the subject SUES YOU for a million dollars.. Who covers you?????
WOW! I dont even carry my gun when I'm off duty let alone if i was in utah...got to reconsider that...
Under the head of "no good deed goes unpunished", I hope this officer remembered to notify the department that he fired his weapon in a timely manner. Also, is there a problem or not with him carrying his weapon, while off-duty and out of state? Not trying to start anything, honestly, don't know the answer, but I thought this was a no-no. Can anybody provide the Rule that says this is OK? BTW, good work officer - here's your 30 days suspension. . .
9/15/2008 03:57:00 AM
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HR-218 FUCK NUT!!! Any sworn police officer can carry off-duty in the United States or its territories. Thank Bush for that one. Now go get your shine box!!!
I'm sure the REV OSMOND and his possie will loot SALT LAKE CITY.Wait MORMONS are CIVILIZED and I'm sure will pray for the P.O. and the vic,but not demand 1 red cent!
They're looting THE OBERWEIS,THEY'RE LOOTING THE OBERWEIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think that a new section should be added to the state course of fire in that each officer shall be required to eat a short stack of pancakes,2 eggs scrambled and a side order of bacon before shooting 3 rounds at 15 feet.
Watch the Chicago Police dept. try and railroad this guy and fire him for some goofy rule violation!
I would expect nothing less from this shit dept.!
This is how much confidence I have as a Chicago Police Officer here these days!
NO backbone from any bosses! I hope you asshole bosses are reading this, too!
Those Team SPARTAN guys don't just train you, they show you how it's done!
Great Job office!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Under the head of "no good deed goes unpunished", I hope this officer remembered to notify the department that he fired his weapon in a timely manner. Also, is there a problem or not with him carrying his weapon, while off-duty and out of state? Not trying to start anything, honestly, don't know the answer, but I thought this was a no-no. Can anybody provide the Rule that says this is OK? BTW, good work officer - here's your 30 days suspension. . .
9/15/2008 03:57:00 AM
Obviously not the fucking police.
No comments from the peanut gallery!
Good job! Glad copper is safe, this is why we should always carry. Thank you very much Pres. Bush.
Chalkie takes a successful road trip.
Be glad you can. Us poor dumb citizens have a right to be victims. When is concealed carry coming to IL? I'm sick of having the government claim that I don't have a right to protect myself.
Concealed carry is coming to Illinois as soon as the majority votes for candidates that acknowledge the Right of Citizens to protect their lives, the lives of those they hold dear and to protect their property from the depredations of those who would take any of these by force.
You know...vote for Republicans.
Kudos to our own!! I read the article, the victim was stabbed about the head, too. The officer easily saved the victim's life.
Hope the PD in Utah considers some kind of award.
To 9/15/2008 07:19:00 AM
I don't care how you bring 'em, just...........................
was in academy w this copper stand up guy! good job!
Heres a good one...Ive been told that Utah loves to sell non- resident concealed carry permits...one of King Daleys loyal disarmed subjects( his honor calls them "citizens") could send his prints and a pic down there, with the appropriate fee of course, and recieve a permit by return mail. Florida does non- resident permits, too ...
H.R. 218 Inquiry:
My agency has a policy that does not allow me to carry my firearm while I am off-duty. Does this mean that this legislation will not benefit me?
If you are a qualified active law enforcement officer, you are legally able to carry a firearm under the provisions of H.R. 218.
There may be agencies which enforce or adopt policies, rules,
regulations, or employment conditions which discourage or punish officers who choose to carry
while off-duty, but such actions do not mean that the officer cannot carry under the provisions of the bill.
Bottomline: H.R.218 may say that you can carry around the county but CPD can have its own policies forbidding, restricting, or disciplining officers carrying off-duty, or in other jurisdictions, etc. Question becomes not whether federal or state law permits off-duty carry, but what is the departments policy????
Where is the call to ban scissors? People running around carving people up with scissors all over town. Everyone pair should now be for lefties to throw off the bad apples?
Question:
You shoot a subject out of state - the subject SUES YOU for a million dollars.. Who covers you?????
9/15/2008 12:10:00 PM
Let this dick-weed sue, it ain't chicago over there and he won't win a dime.
I saw the TV news segment. They had nothing but praise for the officer. Its nice to know some folks still like the police. He was questioned then sent on his way with no problems.
Anonymous said...
Under the head of "no good deed goes unpunished", I hope this officer remembered to notify the department that he fired his weapon in a timely manner. Also, is there a problem or not with him carrying his weapon, while off-duty and out of state? Not trying to start anything, honestly, don't know the answer, but I thought this was a no-no. Can anybody provide the Rule that says this is OK? BTW, good work officer - here's your 30 days suspension. . .
9/15/2008 03:57
the Law Enforcement Officers Health and Safety act AKA HR 218 was passed on 22 July 2004 which allows him to carry almost anywhere in the country
I didn't see it in the media here. Did I miss it or are they not talking about it because of their hate for the Constitution unless it's the 1st?
I know the officer who fired the shots. He's a credit to law enforcement, and I'm proud to know him.
Question:
You shoot a subject out of state - the subject SUES YOU for a million dollars.. Who covers you?????
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Let this dick-weed sue, it ain't Chicago over there and he won't win a dime.
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CORRECT !
He will JUST take your home.
Who was the PO, been away for a while....
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