City Council to Piss Away Money
It's truly sad when Bernie Stone is the one showing some spine:
- [...] But, in rare dissents from such recommendations, four aldermen disagreed, setting the state for a possible full City Council debate on Wednesday.
A divided City Council committee today recommended paying nearly $2.3 million to the family of a teenager who was shot and killed by an off-duty police officer after the teen took part in a home invasion at the home of the officer's parents.
"I say we go to trial on this one," Ald. Bernard Stone (50th) said. " don't agree with the settlement on this one. . . I can't see paying the estate for an armed robber who invaded a home."
The copper named in this case ended up killing his wife a few years later, but the fact remains that at the time, his residence was home invaded by a piece of garbage who got exactly what was coming to him. And now the dead guy is a lottery ticket.
Labels: un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
103 Comments:
Finally, some aldercreatures showing some testicular fortitude
Crime does pay! Wow!
This is absolutely outrageous that any city council members support this payout. I guess it's not their money, so why do they care? But you would think that in with the current condition of city finances, they would try to save a little money. Especially when these scumbags don't deserve a dime.
Who were the other 3 aldermen?
I hope that robber and home invader's family don't get shit. That mother f*&6%r shouldn't have been invading and robbing someone's home. I'm glad he got his before he murdered someone.
I am not familiar with the facts surrounding the incident between the officer and his wife. But I would be interesting in knowing is why the jury found him "guilty but mentally ill in that case". That verdict is one of the hardest verdicts for a defense attorney to argue.
Could this murder of his wife be due to the stress that was placed on him by lawfully taking a life of another and to compound the stress, the officer also accidentally shot his father who survived during this home invasion shooting?
There are numerous police officers each year who take their own life after being involved in a shooting where they took the life of another. The stress that is placed on another human being when he has to take a young person's life, even in self defense, is very heavy. And the sad thing is when an officer does take his own life after a duty related fatal shooting, many officers just say that it is sad. But if the same stress on an officer causes a mental defect in which he harms another, the officer is looked at in a completely different light. Unfortunately when a person cracks or explodes from a very stressful duty related event, that person is not be in control of his actions or thoughts. And sad & tragic events can happen from this mental breakdown due to stress.
I know that there are some police officer that end up doing violent crimes for no reason or justification at all, other than just being a bad guy. I would hate to learn in this case that the officer ended up with severe mental illness due to stress brought upon him due to the shooting that occurred when his home was invaded and then reward the family of the offender for this act.
I think some very serious questions have to be looked at before any judgment or decision can be made in this incident.
And one of the reasons why the city may want to settle this matter is because if it does become clear and evident that the officer involved in this shooting did take the life of his wife due to post traumatic stress disorder or any other kind of duty related mental illness due to duty related stress, it may open a big can of worms for the wife’s family to sue the city for the city’s failure to recognize and treat this officer’s mental illness.
Maybe if they will fight a few of these, there will be fewer to fight!
OFF TOPIC
Dear Scc, Three (3) I.O.D. s on third watch today in our district, which included two (2) twisted ankles one (1) swollen wrist from a fall. Also a steady stream of people “a line actually” for traffic crash reports at the front desk mainly due to ice on roads. This is all obviously a direct result of the penny-pinching decision to not salt the streets.
This scenario I’ll bet is being repeated in all the districts and all the watches across the city today. If these conditions persist throughout the winter I believe peoples habits and behavior will adapt. People will go out less “Start to nest”. The end result will be fewer trips for gas, going out shopping for the Holidays, buying online maybe instead. The city will receive less sales tax and business will hurt and fail. More people will be laid off thus city will collect less property tax from shuttered businesses. The “DE-SALTING” my Play on words like Cruthers “DE-POLICING”. Might result in a greater problem than short shanks ever thought.
More bullshit from our idiots who love to piss away "our money" The criminal did a felony and now the city wants to give it all away as usual! Another question is the family even leagl citizens? No contract for us but again burkes committee gives it away!
its about time we show these jagoffs you cant sue when you are the OFFENDER to a crime such as that...these prick aldermans need to ask this question.... if he broke into my home what would i have done... the same answer every fuckin person would have....KILL HIM!!!!!
The City Council should debate all of the 'automatic withdrawals' of every lawsuit of wrongful death against the city, but they're just too eager to pay out to criminals killed during the commission of their felony's. Imagine the cost-savings to the city. Once offenders realize its not a 'free pass' and an automatic payout, perhaps then less lawsuits will arise from these types of events, OR consider this:
Son of Sam laws prohibit a convict of financially benefiting from their crimes and all proceeds be confiscated to reimburse their victims. So, perhaps these 'wrongful-death lawsuit machinations' should be considered a violation of that law, and any awards thereby turned over to their 'victims' and not to their families.
Furthermore, perhaps the media can get involved and profile the true/real victims of said crimes instead of memorializing the offender as "an alter-boy who just yesterday decided to turn his life around and got 'caught up' this one last time". Wow, that would be some impressive reporting ...
I'm starting to think that this city, county, state is so far gone that it's beyond repair. It's like common sense has somehow gone to the wayside. I wonder sometimes if it's just our city or if it's like this everywhere in the country now. Is there nowhere left in America where people that do wrong actually have to pay for their sins? And where a person can go and lead a good life, make a decent living and feel safe and secure raising his family?
We are the police and we don't even feel safe in this city anymore.
We are the police and we feel like justice very rarely gets served.
How the hell must an ordinary citizen feel now a days then??
the city should go to trial. They went to trial in federal court on that case where the guy, a sex offender, in custody attacked the A3 Detective who shot him after the sexual deviant attacked him with a screwdriver, I think. The scumbag got NOTHING as he should have. His attorneys were seen sobbing later...
This is nutz. It's beyond nutz. It's futz. In fact it's dutz. Daley nutz. The facts are clear. Broke into a house. Shot dead. End of story.
I'm sorry the officer involved went "funny in the head" later and killed his wife, but that has no bearing on the outcome of this home invasion.
Last week the newspapers reported that the city settled, undisclosed amount as of yet, a case involving two cops allegedly beating a gay man.
Now if the cops did the deed they deserve to be fired and charged. If they didn't then the city shouldn't settle and should also charge the alleged "beatee" with false reporting.
This whole concept where the city settles bullshit cases in order to avoid bad publicity or harming "da mare" politically is costing this city tens of millions of dollars a year which could be better spent on contracts for the mayors friends and family.
Has "da mare" lost sight of that? Can he not see the possibilities of using that money for million dollar homes in Bridgeport for family friends. I do mean "family" too. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
City Hall needs an enema. Anyone have any firewhiner relatives who want to bring a truck and hose over to Lasalle Street?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH.
I need to take a walk, but it's too cold and some scumbag would probably try armed robbery on me. Then I'd get shot, shoot and kill the scumbag and end up in civil court watching the city settle for two million dollars. The robbers uncle would be some storefront Preacher who led a march on 35th Street denouncing "the police" for shooting his beloved kin who was going to start community college for the 5th time after finding Jesus "downstate".
Ok, I'm going to have some alcohol now. It's 5 am. Time to drink and sleep.
when, where did this happen? details please
"City Council to Piss Away Money"
This is headlines on this blog topic? It would be more amazing to hear of the City Council acting responsible and prudently or not doing something stupid.
However, what may seem like a foolish thing may not play out that way in court. Around 18 or so years ago a similarly stupid payout to a paralyzed offender went to the City Council for debate. the offender was driving a stolen car, in 022 I believe, he was stopped by a CPD officer and then attacked the CPD officer with a knife. the officer shot the offender once, striking the offender in the neck and rendering him a quadriplegic.
The shooting was justified, the States Attorney, the Department, OPS, all agreed it was a justified shooting. But the mutt sued from prison on the grounds that the officer's use of deadly force was botched.
The Corp Counsel came to a settlement agreement with the mutt's lawyers in the amount of around $300,000. This went before the Finance Committee and then the full City Council. The full city Council refused to sign off on the payment. They reasoned that if the shooting was justified by all accounts, including witnesses, then they shouldn't have to pay an offender who attacked an officer with a knife.
It went back to court for trial. The City then was forced to pay around $1 million because the judge ruled the officer's use of deadly force was botched. It was unreasonable for the officer to shoot an armed offender who tried to kill the officer with a knife and to leave him paralyzed, the judge ruled. The officer then should not have stopped at just one shot, deadly force should mean dead, not paralyzed, the ruling seemed to say.
Shithead got his lottery ticket. So it was and still is true that in law nothing is certain but the expense.
What we consider to be commons sense might end up being even more expensive if it goes to trial.
Bernie Stone might sound good here but it might end up biting the City in the ass if it goes to trial. Sad but true.
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE F'ING IDIOTS? HOW BRAIN DEAD ARE THESE ALDERCREATURES? They even had the audacity to claim that they saved us money on the cheap settlement! Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the dead shithead a fleeing felon??? What makes this any different from the FBI agent who shot the fleeing bank robber yesterday? I'll tell you what, the FBI agent will get an award for bravery or something and the bank robber will go to federal prison for a long, long time.
It's just ass-backward to PAY a criminal or their family for criminal activity! I am apparently in the wrong line of work! I need to become a criminal. It seems to be the only line of work that pays consistently well.
Screw this crappy city! I'm going to Texas where they throw you a parade for shooting assholes who dare to break into your neighbors house.
Thanks for reading my rant.
Pissed Off Cop
I love living in Lake County. Home invaders get prison or sudden lead poisoning, not multi-million dollar payouts.
Check out the State of Colorado. It has a "Make My Day Law".
You break into my house I can blow you away. Your family gets zero!
OFF TOPIC
Dear Scc, Three (3) I.O.D. s on third watch today in our district, which included two (2) twisted ankles one (1) swollen wrist from a fall. Also a steady stream of people “a line actually” for traffic crash reports at the front desk mainly due to ice on roads. This is all obviously a direct result of the penny-pinching decision to not salt the streets.
This scenario I’ll bet is being repeated in all the districts and all the watches across the city today. If these conditions persist throughout the winter I believe peoples habits and behavior will adapt. People will go out less “Start to nest”. The end result will be fewer trips for gas, going out shopping for the Holidays, buying online maybe instead. The city will receive less sales tax and business will hurt and fail. More people will be laid off thus city will collect less property tax from shuttered businesses. The “DE-SALTING” my Play on words like Cruthers “DE-POLICING”. Might result in a greater problem than short shanks ever thought.
12/16/2008 02:00:00 AM
I've never seen it this bad before. In my 3 years on the job I'm finally at a point where I don't want to work on the desk anymore. It's nothing but non-stop traffic accident reports from start to finish. Even though it's icy outside I'm glad to be on the street again getting a long overdue break.
This happened in 025 about 3 years ago. I was there. These mutts invaded this poor guys home because they thought the Dad who was a perfume salesman, had cash in the house. I can't remember the street name but is was just east of Harlem in the 3000 block.This is a travesty of justice and one more reason why this city is going broke. For nonsense like this. An out and out home invasion and dude gets 2 million. The break into the old mans house. The odpo who, IIRC, is either in the back bedroom or basement, hears the commotion, enters the living room and shoots one of the offenders after they brandish a gun. Unbelieveable!
The officers family then should get a lawyer and sue the shit out of the shit heads family. Go for pain and suffering; "I haven't been able to sleep since the home invasion", or how about loss of intimancy," Since the incident we have not been able to be intimate with each other." Or some shit like that. The animals do it all the time.
Off topic- If the camera in squad car is there for my safety, why dont the MSF cars have cameras. Maybe someone recognized you cant always go by the book?
The Corp Counsel created this enviroment long ago. It is now an industry in this city to sue the police. The Corp counsel even if the officer is 100% right will settle the case saying that the cost of litigation outweighs the settlement. Well what costs, the lawyers salaries are paid whether they are in their office or sitting in court. The plaintiff lawyers know just throw the kitchen sink in the complaint and the city will settle, and the officers know even though they are right a settlement will be given, without an admission of guilt, but that same settlement will hit the newspapers,be approved in the council chambers and tarnish the officers name. The lawyers will then use these setllements to file subsequent suits against the officer, its a payday multiplier, because the attorneys get to dispose the officer again and introduce it into new lawsuits.
Thank you City for sticking up for us. A thank you from Loevy and Lovey, Peoples Law Office, etc also.
Remember you can be 100 % right, but that does not matter, afeter a settlement in some "circles" you will be 100% wrong, just listen to the comments of our alderman when they authorize payment on a settlement.
"City Council to Piss Away Money"
And in other news, Sun Rises in East
The end result will be fewer trips for gas, going out shopping for the Holidays, buying online maybe instead. The city will receive less sales tax and business will hurt and fail.
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So what? Shortshanks will just raise taxes to compensate.
Who else voted that way?
>We are the police and we don't even feel safe in this city anymore.
Well, you don't speak for me on that.
Anyone ever speculate that these high-priced settlements with "shooting victims" may actually be a kick-back scheme involving the plaintiff's attorney and the city attorney?
Given the degree of corruption evidenced by Blago's wire tap excerpts in the criminal charge posted on the Tribune web-site, I'm no longer willing to give ANY city, county, or state action the benefit of the doubt. Seems like money is just swilling across Cook County as pay-offs and sweetheart deals.
Anyone read Crains yesterday? Feds are investigating Northwestern Hospital for criminal fraud related to medicare scams and "pay-to-play" arrangements with doctors. Anyone remember that Northwestern comped Ald. Naturus' wife's hospitalizations at the same time that Northwestern had its enormous new hospital project? (I heard this from a Northwestern Hospital source, who was stunned by the hubris.)
The "hands are out" everywhere. The policy to settle the cases rather than to face court process is suspect.
The dead fucks family will win.They will get their money. Their attorney will get his cut.The attorney will kick back some to the Little Shit mayor and the Little Shit mayor will make sure the corrupt judge overseeing the case stays on his seat. Everybody wins. Except the TAXPAYER. It's the Shitcago way.MERRY CHRISTMAS!
Furthermore, perhaps the media can get involved and profile the true/real victims of said crimes instead of memorializing the offender as "an alter-boy who just yesterday decided to turn his life around and got 'caught up' this one last time".
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It will never happen. The only people who would be interested in watching reporting like that would be those who have been victims of similar crimes. Most others seem happy to go through life with their heads in the sand and berating the police every time a situation like this comes up.
I will tell you that after 18 years on this job the most fun I've had is taking a report for some pompous flaming liberal who just got the shit beat out of them by one of the very alter boys they defend.
Finally, some aldercreatures showing some testicular fortitude
12/16/2008 12:18:00 AM
Blago's quote was, "Do you have the testicular virility to make a decision like that knowing what's coming your way?"
the city should go to trial....
12/16/2008 05:00:00 AM
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The city did go to trial and a judgement of $4 million was given to the plaintiffs. The $2.7 million is an agreement to drop the appeal on the city's part.
we should all go to the mayors next press conference and throw our shoes at him.
Wow another winner in the ghetto lottery. What a bitch I will work for my whole life on this job and never see that much.
And I wonder why we don't have a contract yet and why my street is not salted, Etc, Etc, Etc,
How many new recruits could we hire for that much.
Looking at the WRONG ANGLE here.
Investigate the background of the law firms handling these cases.
Campaign contributions and family ties will raise eyebrows.
Just read todays scum-times looks like eddie burke who haeds the committee voted to payout as usual. maybe Patrick Fitz needs to look into all the payouts,burke has a big law firm and pays out our money! Hmm maybe a envelope drama? Maybe j-fed should remove the drives 6X120K per year= $720.000 plus cars and free insurance,gas maintenance another what $50,000+ after about 3 years the money be put to a better use! Come on burke get us a contract and stop throwing all of our tax dollars away!
Hmmm. Let me see. For $2.2 million the city could plow the streets four or five times.
Problem is, the PO would not be able to offer any testimony to justify his actions (in other words, to cover his ass). The mope could testify to anything he wanted (in other words, lie like a m.f.) such as "I stopped running and put my hands up against a wall and yelled that I gave up, but he shot me in the back anyway." You've heard it all before . . .
Hope John Kass writes about this...ghetto lottery has to stop. Who's the defense lawyer getting the cash and who is he/she connected to at city hall?
I don't see how they are suing the city on this one////
What the hell does the city have to do w/ it?
(I know the deep pockets stuff - but seriously what liability does the city have?
Who's the lawyer involved w/ this one???????
If the cop killed his wife can the wife's family sue the city too????????
... Jody Weiss gonna be given thems a Bentley ....
theys gonna be drivin a Bentley ....
wife’s family to sue the city for the city’s failure to recognize and treat this officer’s mental illness.
oh great now we are encouraging third party lawsuits because of a coulda/woulda/shoulda??? If the PO was a loon, for WHATEVER reason why would it be on the department to figure this out? See, attitudes like yours, shaved, are no different than those of the players of the ghetto lottery! Sorry to blow the cover off your less than Pulitzer piece you wrote, but that is just RIDICULOUS!!!
Im 100% certain that the department offered help... If the man refused help then the department is no longer on the hook! And what, should this third party lawsuit set a precedent that whenever a PO does bad, PERHAPS he was mental and the department SHOULD have figured that out and FORCED him into getting help!!!
NEWS FLASH... IT DOESNT WORK THAT WAY!!!
So before you spout off about some bullshit lawsuit, for some "victims" be clear what the fuck you are talking about. This blog is FILLED with hatred and discontent for those who file, support, prosecute, and pay out frivilous, bullshit lawsuits, yet just because the nut in this case was a PO you throw all of that out the window??? That, you troll, is hypocrisy at its finest!!!
Who cares
OT: The plot thickens...
from Sun-Times:
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Judge delays Rezko sentencing
A federal judge has indefinitely postponed the Jan. 6 sentencing for Tony Rezko, the prominent political fund-raiser and former adviser to Gov. Blagojevich.
The move this morning came after Rezko lawyers asked U.S. District Judge Amy St. Eve last week to throw out the sentencing date.
Rezko's request comes as he restarts talks with federal prosecutors. Those talks hit a stumbling block as Rezko asked to be let out of solitary confinement at the downtown federal lockup. He asked for a rushed sentencing in January.
But last week's revelation that the government has recordings in the governor's case, appeared to change Rezko's mind about cooperating.
Rezko's lawyers did not ask for a new sentencing date at this morning’s hearing.
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Way to go Tony, save yourself, here's hoping you can take Shortshanks down with you.
Off Topic:
Here is the petition for the 2 border guards who got screwed. Lets hope GWB can pardon them before he leaves office.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83685
let me guess there is more to this situation than SCC is letting on.
What makes this any different from the FBI agent who shot the fleeing bank robber yesterday? I'll tell you what, the FBI agent will get an award for bravery or something and the bank robber will go to federal prison for a long, long time.
The difference Boy-O is that the FBI agent works for the FED limp dicks who would never hang out one of their own.
Fuck Em, they'd do the same for you.
Here endith the lesson...
What would the mayor do if we all thru shoes at him?
Completely off topic but Toys for Tots is only at about 50% of their goal for this year, which means with only a week left until Christmas and need being at all time high, many children will not receive a single gift for Christmas. I sent this info to Shaved as well and he posted a link where contributions can be made if someone does not want to take the time to purchase a toy and drop it off! Thank you for any help that you may be able to give the Marines and this toy drive!
Let me get this right ... $2.3M for a "turning his life around future altar boy/surgeon/college professor" who was shot by the ODPO who did a Home Invasion ... hmmm ... maybe this young future genius should try that to one of the Aldercreatures - or better yet, Shortshanks and J-F*uck#d Fed! Next time, take aim at the asshat lawyer who thinks this POS is so innocent!
To clear this up......The 2.3 Million is FAR LESS than the 4 Million that was awarded this family by a jury. This is a settlement of that award....The city has NO CHOICE in this matter or i guess be on the hook for 4 Million.
I say PAY HIM NOW!!!!
As long as the P.O. and his father in law are entitled to sue the estate of asshole and get every penny..
ONLY IN AMERICA!!!
(insert picture of don king smiling and waving flags here)
I'm assuming that the law suit is based on the fact that the guy was fleeing when he was shot. But nonetheless, the cop was off-duty so how does that make the city liable? He was a PPO barely out of the academy at the time, by the way.
He was in my son's class at the academy and I've talked to people who worked with him. They all say he was a great guy and a good cop.
As for the murder of his wife, he stabbed her 29 times, breaking the first two knives before finishing up with the third. No known prior history of domestic violence. There was a lot of support for the idea that he "snapped" but not a lot of understanding as to why.
Which brings me to the final point: the cop could no longer be a credible witness as to what happened on the day of the shooting, given what happened afterwards. He is now "officially" crazy, with a proven tendency to mayhem.
All these attorneys give kick backs to the committee on finance and Burke. That's is why they will settle anything.
jack said
the family of the officer should file suit against the deceased home invader estate to have monetary reward for all the sleepless nights they've endured since the horrifying night of their home invasion.
That's why we're going broke. Why have these attorney's on the payroll when they never fight for anything. Why does the city pay them?????
As soon as the aldercreatures agree on the payout, the copper's family should sue the shithead's family for emotional distress resulting from the crime and sue them for $2.3 mil.
The only reason we are hearing about this case is because it requires the approval of the City Council. I'd like to know how much all the nickle and dime settlements add up to?
I was names in a federal suit which the City won on a summary judgment. But the judgment is being appealed and the City now wants to give the complainants $5K to settle.
I'm sure these offers happen every day.
The scum-times reported that the two young whipper-snappers did the home invasion so they could steal some cologne the old man sold at the flea market! No joke! I'm not surprised. When I was 14 me and my buddy Johnny McElroy did the same thing. Armed with crossbows, we invaded old man Sharkey's apartment down the street from my house because we heard he had a wicked stash of Old Spice cologne. Unfortunately, we were dissappointed to find out that all he had was CK-1. As we stood their in shock, Old Man Sharkey attacked us with a Louiseville slugger and we got the fuck out of Dodge! Too bad for my parents he didn't kill me so they could have won a bizillion dollars. Anyway, you guys and gals be safe out there. I'm off to go burglarize my neighbor cuz I heard he's got some of the that new Brittany Spears cologne. Man, will my wife love that for Christmas!
This happened off duty correct? Why is the city council even involved. If joe citizen shot and killed a home invader (in the back or otherwise) would the city council be involved? Wouldn't this be either a criminal matter or a civil matter involving the persons insurance? I truly don't get it...can a legal mind explain?
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-1561556.html
here's the details on the wife being killed. and yes the police officer is in IDOC until 2029.
Cmon guys can't they have ONE scam??
Corp counsel is an open check book. Get used to it, unless you change the administration...
I.O.D from "slip and falls?? \
Sure, and they'll all get better after the holidays.
slightly off topic-- went to gas up at sunnyside and cicero and was handed a pamphlet by attendant that as of 30 dec we will be pumping our own gas again. no big deal because once upon a time we all pumped our gas anyway. the problem is the city id swipe card which doesn't work. i have had mine replaced three times and it still won't work. now you and your partner need to fill up and both have a card that doesn't work-- now what ????
only four alderman?
Who is the plaintiffs attorney? If he is connected don't you think some of the $2.3 million makes its way to some of the aldermans campaign fund? Just a thought.
Not even 2:30pm, with snow that was predicted days ago, the main roads are a complete and total mess. Nice job King Daley.
Only in Chicago do we pay asshole robbers who got what he deserved.
The “DE-SALTING” my Play on words like Cruthers “DE-POLICING”. Might result in a greater problem than short shanks ever thought.
Your play on words me thinks not!
DeSalting and DePolicing is all relevant.
the city should go to trial. They went to trial in federal court on that case where the guy, a sex offender, in custody attacked the A3 Detective who shot him after the sexual deviant attacked him with a screwdriver, I think. The scumbag got NOTHING as he should have. His attorneys were seen sobbing later...
The trial was held in state court and the sexual deviant was not the arrestee armed with a screwdriver!
Piss away money sure. But not on removing the fucking snow from my block and not on salting the fucking streets around my house either. Give it to the family of a fucking savage criminal instead.
When are the people going to rise up and drag Daley out of his office and take him into the plaza at the center named after his father and stone the mother fucker?
No good corrupt fucking son of a bitch. He deserves a brick to the head. He's mortgaging our future by selling capital assets and our sons and daughters will have to pay for it. Fuck him, fuck his son, fuck all his family living and dead.
SCC: It should be labeled under the heading BELIEVABLE!
Because this is the Kingdom of corruption, now known as CHICOOKINOIS!
In CHICOOKINOIS anything is possible.
I was up all night thinking of this new moniker. I should copyright it.
Somebody HAS to be getting kickbacks from these lawsuits!
Who exactly is going to be the city's witnesses at this trial?
The officer? Maybe not. It would be hard for the jury to ignore the Hannibal Lector facemask this murdering animal would be speaking through during the trial.
The officer's family? Maybe not. Might be upset at the city for putting their son in the same hospital for the crimminally insane as the Joker and Penguin.
Let's provide a little counterpoint to SCC's outrage.
Let's suppose the defense said the officer (without saying he is a murderer who killed his wife in front of their children) is a total nutball. Not hard to prove, especially with the Lector mask.
Then they would explain the story as it probably happened. The officer heard there were armed people in the house and just started blasting away, like any nutball would do, in such a goofy manner that he actually shot his own father in the process. Then officer nutball ran down the street blasting and blasting away with absolutely no concern about anyone else in the universe, only hoping to satisfy the voices in his head and his own insane rage.
Real police keep their head in a crisis. Nutballs do goofy things. We got lots of nutballs on this job. He is one of them. He was an embarrassment this day. He was an embarrassment the day he killed his wife.
Two million for a home invader is outrageous. But that is part of the cost of keeping so many goofy morons in a job that has so much power over other people. The other cost is the fact that juries let criminals go free because they think all police officers act like this animal.
Reverand Shaved Longcock responds by trying to provide some excuse for this nutball's future murder of his wife in front of his children. Amazing.
The morons on this job never cease to amaze me. They ruined this department. Not the bosses, not the politicans, not the reporters, not the citizens. The one to two hundred stupid morons on this job are the ones who made public clowns of themselves and the rest of this department. Do other officers demand they be fired? Never. Instead they are the ones we cover for. They are the ones this blog defends. Truly amazing. This department is finished.
You guys really want the city to fight these lawsuits? With the jury pool in this city and county you would be hardpressed to find anyone of them to rule in favor for the officer. Settlements prevent the officer from having to payout punitive damages as well as the cost of attorney's fees. Loevy and Loevy and other law firms that thrive on suing the city make it a point to spent countless hours deposing everyone all the while billing thousands of dollars in the process. Can you imagine going to trial thinking you have a good case and be found liable. With the Chicago media that constantly prints out articles regarding police misconduct you would be lucky to find a fair and impartial jury to listen to the case.
Geez Louise
Its beyond me to think that all these comments come from long time local city residents but for any copper that has been around awhile,you would know that..
The Law Department and the States Attorney's office are and have been the domain of the daley machine.
That means almost every att'y in either office was sponsored by an alderman or associated entity.
Most are not qualified or capable of making the cut in the private sector or if they are,they are new,young and inexperienced. That is not to say they wont make the big time later but they have to start somewhere.
Felony Review..lets send out the newest guy/gal to be the first to set the foundation of this case, so when its fucked up,we can blame the police.
Law Dept..the kid is new,my nephew, precint captain or whatever..he cant handle it so lets farm out the case for help..I know..lets call my other nephew..
Common demoninators..
daley
patronage
lawyers taking care of lawters,who then become judges,who decide on politician's cases,...it goes on and on like it has for generations.
Maybe you guys should read the whole case before you judge the settlement. The City lawyers DID go to trial on this one -- and lost $4 million. Let's just say the physical evidence conflicted with what the officer said happened. The verdict got reversed and the case was set for a new trial. What's the upside to going to trial again with a Cook County jury? The physical evidence STILL conflicts with the officer's testimony.
I see a silver lining to the Blgo. debacle. Once BHO is sworn in, he will distance himself politically from this fly-over state.
BHO, doesn't want a clown from ringmaster, Shortshanks circus, to be his downfall.
let me guess there is more to this situation than SCC is letting on.
What could we possibly be hiding? The entire article is linked right in the first line of our post; we venture our opinion; we open the post to comments. Kind of simple actually.
You looking for monsters under the bed later?
The City should NEVER settle as a matter of principle!
This City and State should look to Texas for some guidance! I'll bet this shit NEVER happens in the great State of Texas!
That's why these dogs do the things that they do and expect to get away with it or get paid for it!
THIS CITY IS A FUCKIN JOKE!!!
Is Burke getting his usual 1/3 of Shapiro's 1/3? Not counting expenses. Those items come off the top first.
OT:
I saw something tonight on the new, a recent interview with Robert Cooley, the crooked lawyer who wore a wire for the Fed and got lots of people caught up n the late 80's.
Cooley says he knew Blago 20 years ago and that Blago back then was running an illegal gambling operation in the suburbs and was paying street tax to outfit types to allow his gambling (sports probably) deal to work.
Then, Jesse Jackson Jr came on and says that Blago tried to shake him down for $25,000 so his wife, present alderman, could get the job of running the Illinois lottery.
Sounds like we got the absolute most crooked one out there when we voted for governor, both times.
What a scum bag.
Anonymous said...
How many new recruits could we hire for that much.
12/16/2008 08:49:00 AM
Not many!
OT . I just read on the Fox News Site that the city of New York wants to place a 15% TAX on Non-Diet sodas and sugar drinks. Don't let the Toddler & Daley get hold of this one. I thought that it was only Chicago that had Stupid F'n Aldercreatures .
"Could this murder of his wife be due to the stress that was placed on him by lawfully taking a life of another and to compound the stress, the officer also accidentally shot his father who survived during this home invasion shooting?"
"Maybe you guys should read the whole case before you judge the settlement. The City lawyers DID go to trial on this one -- and lost $4 million. Let's just say the physical evidence conflicted with what the officer said happened."
Could it be this Officer was a Mentally imbalanced Nutcase that shouldn't have been on on the Job in the 1st Place?
Could it be he was politically sponsored & in typical Outfit mode the City is paying out because He's a connected guy?
As to both scenarios, MORE PROBABLE THAN NOT!!
The officer then should not have stopped at just one shot, deadly force should mean dead, not paralyzed, the ruling seemed to say.Shithead got his lottery ticket. So it was and still is true that in law nothing is certain but the expense.
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What was the judge's cut??
It was already tried before a jury. The jury looked at the evidence and already came down against the City on it. (Juries have trouble believing CPD when all the wonderful scandels keep popping up) This was a settlement during appeal to lower the amount the City had to pay. Blame the jury ... and post the facts next time.
Tell the truth SCC. A 14 year old, running away, shot in the back by an officer that later kills his wife and is found mentally ill. The fact that the officer is not in court to testify (incarcerated in a mental institution) will have to be explained to the jury.
2.3 M sounds like a bargain to me.
slightly off topic--
""the problem is the city id swipe card which doesn't work. i have had mine replaced three times and it still won't work. now you and your partner need to fill up and both have a card that doesn't work-- now what ????""
I was wondering the same thing myself. Was down at 35th street a while ago when my ID wouldn't work. Gave me a new ID. Called the City people who actually program the card to pump gas and gave them all sorts of numbers & supposedly they were putting it all in the computer as she was talking to them. Guess what? 4 years later, still doesn't work....Oh well.
Scum Times: Don Shapiro, attorney for the home invader says that police are not suppose to shot..only arrest, po's are not to be judge, jury, etc etc.
Shapiro must have never read I, The Jury, written by Mickey Spillane. what a schmuck!!
I've never seen it this bad before. In my 3 years on the job I'm finally at a point where I don't want to work on the desk anymore.......
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Bwaaaaahaaaaahaaaa!!!!!
"These mutts invaded this poor guys home because they thought the Dad who was a perfume salesman, had cash in the house. I can't remember the street name but is was just east of Harlem in the 3000 block."
Yeah, a few years ago, somewhere there in Schorsch Village. Owner of the house was a PO, Hispanic surname, had family living there with him. As I recall they had been running a retail operation in the house, selling cosmetics, and a couple of the customers later came back to rob them.
Anonymous said...
Finally, some aldercreatures showing some testicular fortitude
12/16/2008 12:18:00 AM
It will get sent back to trial and the city will likely get fucked worse and have to pay more.
You can't shoot a fleeing burglar. Pellet gun, so what, who had the pellet gun? Was it used to shoot at the police? Did the suspect have it in his hand?
In 1986 police in Tennessee shot and killed an unarmed fleeing burglar. After the Supreme Court ruled there was no justification in that shooting that changed deadly force policy across the country real quick.
JohnKeene said...
...but the judgment is being appealed and the City now wants to give the complainants $5K to settle.
I'm sure these offers happen every day.
12/16/2008 12:19:00 PM
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RIGHT!
... and the only reason it's being appealed is so the LAWYERS can re-coup their fees/losses. The original 'victim/plaintiff' is probably no longer a player in this, and even if they are, they're not likely to see much of the $5K.
The lawyers appeal and the city always, ALways, ALWAYS makes an offer to settle because they figure that fighting it will cost more in the longrun.
Forgive me for ranting, but I've said it here before ... Our legal system is the laughing stock of the world... The only way to correct this is to require that the loser pay for all legal fees and court costs for BOTH sides of any lawsuit!
I know all you lawyers out there are cringing at those words and posturing about "why should poor people not be allowed to seek legal remedy etc yadda, yadda, ad nauseum? ..."
But that one change in the law would end the ghetto lottery, turn around an incredible drain on the govt. budget, unclog the courts by greatly reducing the number of frivolous lawsuits, and maybe even create a less evil society, what with the fewer number of lawyers there would be walking around!
Check out the State of Colorado. It has a "Make My Day Law".
You break into my house I can blow you away. Your family gets zero!
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So does Illinois.
(720 ILCS 5/7‑2) (from Ch. 38, par. 7‑2)
Sec. 7‑2. Use of force in defense of dwelling.
(a) A person is justified in the use of force against another when and to the extent that he reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent or terminate such other's unlawful entry into or attack upon a dwelling. However, he is justified in the use of force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm only if:
(1) The entry is made or attempted in a violent,
riotous, or tumultuous manner, and he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent an assault upon, or offer of personal violence to, him or another then in the dwelling, or
(2) He reasonably believes that such force is
necessary to prevent the commission of a felony in the dwelling.
(b) In no case shall any act involving the use of force justified under this Section give rise to any claim or liability brought by or on behalf of any person acting within the definition of "aggressor" set forth in Section 7‑4 of this Article, or the estate, spouse, or other family member of such a person, against the person or estate of the person using such justified force, unless the use of force involves willful or wanton misconduct.
(Source: P.A. 93‑832, eff. 7‑28‑04.)
Nothing says you can run out in the street and shoot the guy in the back as he is running away though.
Sorry to tell you but some detectives know of several domestic incidents with this copper and he was not a stable individual. His background of reported incidents were all designed to be justifiable by upper ranks who took control of the scene and they were as nutty as he. Once again we are paying for the long term effects caused by some current and retired high ranking officials on this job who protecting another goof.
...In CHICOOKINOIS anything is possible.
I was up all night thinking of this new moniker. I should copyright it!
12/16/2008 03:30:00 PM
Yes, you should. Because there must be millions of other people at the copyright office in the 'Moniker' line, trying to
copyright it before you do!
In 1986 police in Tennessee shot and killed an unarmed fleeing burglar. After the Supreme Court ruled there was no justification in that shooting that changed deadly force policy across the country real quick.
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FWIS, if anyone actually wants to read this case, it is Tennessee v. Garner (471 US 1) handed down in 1985. CPD already had a deadly force policy in effect which was very similar to the guidelines in Garner. But it did change the policy for a lot of departments.
why do we even have mara georges and her crew? Big salaries and cars and they do nothing but meet with eddie burke and just give away all of our money! Does eddie get a cut?
Are all you people unaware, or simply choosing to ignore the fact that the City took this case to trial last year, waved the flag, said this family didn't deserve to be rewarded, blah blah blah, and the jury came back with a $4 million verdict anyway? And that the Law Department was able to get the judge to grant a new trial and negotiated a settlement of almost 50% off the original verdict? Which one of you geniuses is familiar with the facts of the case? And which courageous alderman or blogger will step up and pay the next verdict if this settlement is defeated?
How about knowing what you're talking about before you press the "send" button?
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