More Tahoe Problems
Interesting design error:
- Anyone notice the serious design flaw in the new Tahoes concerning the cage? The gap on each side of the cage partition is wide enough for a whole ARM to fit thru and grab the driver or passenger in the front seat! And what did they do to correct this gap? The installed FLIMSY plastic secured with VELCRO- that's right- VELCRO!
FLOP was notified and didn't seem very interested. I know of officers who have sent a to-from to FOP notifying them of the safety issue.
In the meantime, boys and girls, be careful if you choose to transport anyone in the rear of your new Tahoe. Always handcuff anyone in your backseat, but we all know that some skinny crack-heads can get those cuffs in front of themselves. I swear, the gap is large enough for 2 skinny arms to poke thru and harm or annoy the POs in the front.
We should all be writing To-froms regarding this serious safety issue.
Watch yourselves while transporting or detaining subjects. Why they couldn't weld something a bit more permanent, we'll probably never know.
Labels: safety issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
61 Comments:
FLOP was notified and didn't seem very interested. I know of officers who have sent a to-from to FOP notifying them of the safety issue.
Our safety is not thier job.
You have Tahoes?
put cuffs on them and you won't have to worry about an arm reaching through and grabbing anyone. problem solved...quit bitching.
Our Tahoe has 350 miles on it and has been in the shop for about a week now! Check engine light and some other lights came on! Radio still works though.
Pool car has 150,000 and no PDT. Smells like old dusty ass- found a Stretch Armstrong in between the seats! LOT O FUN!!!!
I know of someone who sent a to from o the prince of nadia .... gimme a friggin break.
Why didn't the WEISel just order Ford Crown Vics in the first place?
Under scrutiny, his sole excuse was the "Chicago winters". The proffered justification for purchasing a fleet of 2-wheel drive Tahoes with the "roll over" hazard is nothing more than superfluous drivel.
In addition, a comparative cost analysis of the two vehicles should prove quite interesting.
V6 six cylnder right? no 4 wheel drive right. with chicago hard cpd driving that suv will be junk in 3 years. what a joke. it's all smoke n mirrors again. if they really gave a shit, they should have been 4X4 V8's. to last several years longer and to deal with the citys elements...
How can this possibly be occurring; if the department used the same cages that are in current use by other PD's?
Supposedly the side impace air bags interfer with a hard plastic partion.
Side curtain airbags.
Please reconsider Tahoes as police vehicles. They do not serve the purpose of a large municipal police department in any better way than a car does. J-Fed, if you miss Tahoes, then please go back to the FBI. Let us handle real crime the way only we can.
The cage engineers voted for Obama. They didnt want it to appear to ominous and scare the poor victims of the CPD.
/sarc
On one hand it is nice we got new vehicles finally. The Tahoe's do drive better than the Crown Vics and do have better handling believe it or not. They also have better pick up. The height advantage in the Tahoe's is good too. However, maneuver ability in the Tahoe's is a lot more difficult considering how large the Tahoes are. The Tahoe I have for my beat has around 1500 miles on it and it appears the trans is already starting to slip. Also the first day we had the Tahoe the sound box for the sirens stopped working.
Please reconsider Tahoes as police vehicles. They do not serve the purpose of a large municipal police department in any better way than a car does. J-Fed, if you miss Tahoes, then please go back to the FBI. Let us handle real crime the way only we can.
4/07/2009 07:25:00 AM
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It's too late, the dealer already got paid. I'm sure a year or two from now we will find out that the dealership (which is outside of chicago) is somehow connected to Daley and his cronies. The media will "confront" him with this info, he will just laugh at all of us suckers, say "cuckoo" a couple of times, walk away, and nothing will happen. It's da chicago way.
no shit ? you have at tahoe ??? my beat car has 108,000 plus miles.
V6 six cylnder right? no 4 wheel drive right. with chicago hard cpd driving that suv will be junk in 3 years. what a joke. it's all smoke n mirrors again. if they really gave a shit, they should have been 4X4 V8's. to last several years longer and to deal with the citys elements...
4/07/2009 01:28:00 AM
V6 and 2 wheel drive? A waste of money. Total waste of money.
Please reconsider Tahoes as police vehicles. They do not serve the purpose of a large municipal police department in any better way than a car does. J-Fed, if you miss Tahoes, then please go back to the FBI. Let us handle real crime the way only we can.
4/07/2009 07:25:00 AM
Weis bought them because they look so damn cool when transporting dignitaries, foooool.
V6 six cylnder right? no 4 wheel drive right. with chicago hard cpd driving that suv will be junk in 3 years. what a joke. it's all smoke n mirrors again. if they really gave a shit, they should have been 4X4 V8's. to last several years longer and to deal with the citys elements...
4/07/2009 01:28:00 AM
You would think the fleet salesman would have advised against THAT wouldn't you?
2 wheel drive Tahoe won't help in the snow. total waste of $.
The 90 lb.junkie wont slip those cuffs if you thread them through his belt or the belt ring.
I have driven in them twice, I like the room, very easy to get out if you got to chase someone, drives good....bad points is it's hard to see (2 sets of cages and further back) when you got to drive in reverse for long distance down those narrow alleys or streets, so I forsee lots of fender benders...and if you drive 99 in them, the location of the roof lights are in a tough spot, you have to slightly reach back to get them going and you can't see them.
Its was nice of Jody to ask "his" officers what they thought would be the better choice of police vehicles. Typical Fed thinking that they know better than the lowly patrol officer. "No no no little police man. I'm with the (insert three lettter governemt agency of choice) and I know what's best for you and your little department. Now be a good little toy soldier and bring me my grande half-caff cinnamon soy mocha latte." Jody, please do us ALL a favor and read the writing on the station walls, that is the District stations away from your "think tank" suck holes at HQ, and leave. If the vote of a "few officers" as you put it wasn't enough for you to get the hint, did you not hear the chanting of a few THOUSAND last week!!! In the words of the great Biff Tannon, "Make like a tree, and get out of here!"
"Pool car has 150,000 and no PDT. Smells like old dusty ass- "
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How do you know how old dusty ass smells?
Did they fix the auo/computer locking system (for first responders)?
Careful pulling up quickly to a job and throwing the vehicle in park.......(if anyone is flying around to jobs anymore of course)
You'll get stuck tryng to get out IF THEY DIDN'T ADJUST THIS! It defaults until the locking mechanism properly sets itself or so it seems!
Stay Safe
(OT) Looks like the C.O at midway will be gone soon! Seems that Lt Mcbride of the day watch is telling others she is "taking over"! We thought that grandma was going to retire after she "infected" the other Sgts with her vile attitude! seems after calling to get check stubs being on the medical, lt mcbride has taken them all and our union rep has to meet with her and ellyn to get them! But just to let them both know all his checks are direct deposit and his friend in finance has already reprinted them for me! Morale is down time to change bosses boss and now!
what happens when she's gone and morale is high? you will feel better about going to your do nothing spot and typing on this blog all day at the USO. hey jagbag come work the west side and see how much we care about YOUR morale in fantasy land.
Anonymous said...
Please reconsider Tahoes as police vehicles. They do not serve the purpose of a large municipal police department in any better way than a car does. J-Fed, if you miss Tahoes, then please go back to the FBI. Let us handle real crime the way only we can.
4/07/2009 07:25:00 AM
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It's too late, the dealer already got paid. I'm sure a year or two from now we will find out that the dealership (which is outside of chicago) is somehow connected to Daley and his cronies. The media will "confront" him with this info, he will just laugh at all of us suckers, say "cuckoo" a couple of times, walk away, and nothing will happen. It's da chicago way.
4/07/2009 09:22:00 AM
And the jagoff daley,raises all the taxes and he could not even purchase in this shit overtaxed city WTF!
Anonymous said...
Why didn't the WEISel just order Ford Crown Vics in the first place?
Under scrutiny, his sole excuse was the "Chicago winters". The proffered justification for purchasing a fleet of 2-wheel drive Tahoes with the "roll over" hazard is nothing more than superfluous drivel.
In addition, a comparative cost analysis of the two vehicles should prove quite interesting.
4/07/2009 01:17:00 AM
Crown Vics are cheaper and much better vehicles, and only police and fleet can purchase these!
just think that you would be better off putting a jock strap there instead.
It's a poor choice for an urban police vehicle. But, poor choices are what Chicago is all about.
GM ( Government Motors) is bankrupt , what did you expect? A quality product?
i love the tahoe-- plenty of room for all my goodies and more leg room-- i go to the station and use the microwave to make the popcorn, then head right to the park and fire up the dvd player. almost like the old drive-ins. my biggest problem is that my partner snores to much and has a gas problem so i put a bag over his head and bought one of those clip on mini fans to blow the smell the other way.
off topic s.o.s. this plea goes out to all 25 worlds in the c.p.d. empire. our jedi hero "terrible T" has been sentenced to unending agony in the 30 sector, at the white castle at north laramie by the evil lord of the sith (tac lt. garrido). our hero committed a minor transgression with the princess "opie" and now is beset by the nefarious sand people, who daily demand pro active policing. but our hero is able to defend himself with contact cards, misc x cards and the indomitable 19pauls. without even his trusty x-wing to flee this terrible world of missing children, on view auto accidents, and loud music he must carry on. i implore the heavy hitters "baron jonnie cakes" ruler of the small and furry ewoks, "duke nemish" king of police discounts, "earl seiser" of the wookie kingdom to help the young jedi to escape. the overlords of the white shirts can not help as they are on their death star called rdo. please help!!!
the plastic shields held on by velcro...thats so the side airbags deploy without interference. Put their seatbelt on. If you hear...click, then a crackle from the velcro...just slam on your brakes and have a good chuckle!
down em as UNSAFE TO OFFICERS. SAFETY COMPLAINT. CPD, City Hall, get it right, don't try to palm off any more of your BULLSHIT
on US. If it were the Fire Department, they'd refuse to use that unsafe equipment, and rightfully so.
HA! you think that is bad, wait until you get a flat tire and have to change it yourself.
Just a word of caution; make dam sure your medical insurance is up to par, and your wearing your lounging homeless outfit to change the tire.
Call me if you ever get one changed. I want to take a picture of you when you look like Goober.
Saaashammms......
I vote for the crown vic...its a great squad car, provided its not beat down with zillions of miles. If the crown vic is properly maintained, it can give excellent service up to 100k, and then go on to run up 400k miles as a cab. Todays holsters and radios are so hard on car seats, maybe kevlar seat covers will be the next police package option.
put cuffs on them and you won't have to worry about an arm reaching through and grabbing anyone. problem solved...quit bitching.
4/07/2009 12:39:00 AM
hey asshole, a lot of people can get their hands in front of them after being cuffed in the back. i personally have arrested a male white who was cuffed in the back and placed into the back seat of my squad car. when i went to take him out at the station his hands were in front. he was able to do that in the cramped back seat of the crown vic. imagine how easy it would be for him to do that in the much bigger back seat of the tahoe. problem not solved you jagoff.
Anonymous said...
.... Tahoes?
4/07/2009 12:23:00 AM
I thought that was how an Englishman said goodbye to a couple of prostitutes
Smells like old dusty ass- found a Stretch Armstrong in between the seats! LOT O FUN!!!!
4/07/2009 01:10:00 AM
Don't think it was a Stretch Armstrong doll!
How can this possibly be occurring; if the department used the same cages that are in current use by other PD's?
4/07/2009 03:02:00 AM
"IF"
Cuff the asshole. And next time you see a fellow gang/tact officer wearing an "off duty" pancake or blackhawk holster, placing a shithead in their back seat to run their name, remind them to do their family a favor. If they are macho/dumb enough to risk their own life, tell them to at least think of their partner, and everyone else. Complacency is deadly. Observing it and saying nothing is unforgivable. Be safe.
Dodge Chargers like the Burbs have, jet black, way cool..
to 12:13pm--McBride is a LT? Is she the Sgt CathyM?
off topic s.o.s. this plea goes out to all 25 worlds in the c.p.d. empire. our jedi hero "terrible T" has been sentenced to unending agony in the 30 sector, at the white castle at north laramie by the evil lord of the sith (tac lt. garrido)......
THIS is one GOOD Example of the kinds of QUALITY DRUGS you can get on the Chicago Police Health Insurance Plan. MMMMMM HMMMMMMM!
Pool car has 150,000 and no PDT. Smells like old dusty ass- found a Stretch Armstrong in between the seats! LOT O FUN!!!!
4/07/2009 01:10:00 AM
HEY!!!! I want my stretch armstrong back dammit.Its the only thing I have to look forward to on 3rd watch.(Ill trade you my superman stretch doll for it ok?)
"Interesting design error:
Anyone notice the serious design flaw in the new Tahoes concerning the cage? The gap on each side of the cage partition is wide enough for a whole ARM to fit thru and grab the driver or passenger in the front seat! And what did they do to correct this gap? The installed FLIMSY plastic secured with VELCRO- that's right- VELCRO!"
That was done on purpose. The alderthieves added this "flaw" to the original specs. They figured they might get arrested for DUI, Official Misconduct, etc, etc, etc.......
They wanted a chance to escape !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
(OT) Looks like the C.O at midway will be gone soon! Seems that Lt Mcbride of the day watch is telling others she is "taking over"! We thought that grandma was going to retire after she "infected" the other Sgts with her vile attitude! seems after calling to get check stubs being on the medical, lt mcbride has taken them all and our union rep has to meet with her and ellyn to get them! But just to let them both know all his checks are direct deposit and his friend in finance has already reprinted them for me! Morale is down time to change bosses boss and now!
what happens when she's gone and morale is high? you will feel better about going to your do nothing spot and typing on this blog all day at the USO. hey jagbag come work the west side and see how much we care about YOUR morale in fantasy land.
4/07/2009 12:13:00 PM
Hey dickwad worked westside many years now enjoy your self and get more hair gel! "I love coleged" dope!
whiny bitches ....
you wanted cars you got cars. you got carbines you got them ....
you wanted new bosses you got new bosses ....
waaaaaa waaaaa waaaaa Waaaaa
look at a federal employee office / bathroom? no grafiti, clean... you guys look like you dont deserve anything ,,,
Waaa Waaaa Waaaa
J. Weis
We have Tahoes? We have PDT's?
I am still waiting on a pool car, preferably less than 100,000 miles with a working spot light.
023 district ranger said...
"Pool car has 150,000 and no PDT. Smells like old dusty ass- "
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How do you know how old dusty ass smells?
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Didn't Dusty Ass work midnights in 023 years ago?
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/04/chicago-police-tahoes-suvs.html
You should be getting a cut of their web site ad revenue.
"I thought that was how an Englishman said goodbye to a couple of prostitutes
4/07/2009 08:37:00 PM"
You're thinking of 'Tally Hoes!', what the English man shouts as he hops into the saddle.
"How do you know how old dusty ass smells?
4/07/2009 11:29:00 AM"
The same way you do.
One of the burbs has a guy riding by himself in a huge marked ford suv, way bigger than a tahoe...the laptop is like 19" diagonal and the truck has both shotgun and a rifle in it. Then again, this dept. has adopted the CHP model, both long guns in every vehicle, except the mustang unmarked ! The supervisor car is a black charger hemi unmarked.
hey asshole, a lot of people can get their hands in front of them after being cuffed in the back. i personally have arrested a male white who was cuffed in the back and placed into the back seat of my squad car. when i went to take him out at the station his hands were in front. he was able to do that in the cramped back seat of the crown vic. imagine how easy it would be for him to do that in the much bigger back seat of the tahoe. problem not solved you jagoff.
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asshole'
use his belt loop or the seat belt???
So he was moving around back there and you didn't notice?????? thanks for paying attention during training...you're the kind of guy that blames everybody else for your mistakes aren't you Mr. Veteran Cop????
Didn't Dusty Ass work midnights in 023 years ago?
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no no, your thinking of phil Mccracken worked on 023, Dusty worked foot on Clark... wait maybe it was licker Ass on Clark and Dusty was in ..
no no you were right
"J. Weis
4/08/2009 12:06:00 AM"
Uh, I'd try to spend as little time in those 'federal employee office / bathroom(s)' as possible, if I were you.
Even if it means you've got to stock up on Depends.
We had the same cage problem in the 80's. It seems that oour automotive "experts" do not know how to order the specific parts that are needed to make this thing work, and yes, we did loose a few because of this problem, and of course, the POs were held responsible. But what do you expect when the top 3 guys ignore sny help from anyone who knows what he is doing.
V6 six cylnder right? no 4 wheel drive right. with chicago hard cpd driving that suv will be junk in 3 years. what a joke. it's all smoke n mirrors again. if they really gave a shit, they should have been 4X4 V8's. to last several years longer and to deal with the citys elements...
4/07/2009 01:28:00 AM
They all have the 5.3L V8.
2WD Tahoes are pursuit rated by GM, while 4WD Tahoes aren't. And you just know if we had 4WD, some dumbass would burn out the differentials driving high speeds on dry pavement with it engaged.
""2WD Tahoes are pursuit rated by GM, while 4WD Tahoes aren't. And you just know if we had 4WD, some dumbass would burn out the differentials driving high speeds on dry pavement with it engaged.""
4/08/2009 01:10:00 PM
I hope you don't have a 4WD vehicle Mr. Expert. If you do, why don't you read the owners manual? And if you have read it, dont assume all 4WD vehicles are just like yours.
You only have to worry about burning up the diffs if you have a xfer case that always locks the two driveshafts together in 4WD....Look at the xfer cases that were available in the Jeep Cherokees as an example, the 231 vs. the 242.
Anonymous said...
Cuff the asshole. And next time you see a fellow gang/tact officer wearing an "off duty" pancake or blackhawk holster, placing a shithead in their back seat to run their name, remind them to do their family a favor. If they are macho/dumb enough to risk their own life, tell them to at least think of their partner, and everyone else. Complacency is deadly. Observing it and saying nothing is unforgivable. Be safe.
4/07/2009 08:46:00 PM
I see wagon guys, revolver carrying old guys, still using old good for shit leather holsters with a single fastener and their revolver sticking out to the side for any asshole to grab.
Wagon guys who handle more prisoners than any beat car, with their weapons in easy to grab holsters still leading prisoners into a crowd of shitheads down in the receiving bullpen at 26th and California.
A tragedy just waiting to happen. Fucking old guys just won't spend a few bucks on a decent holster no matter what.
Anyone have a count of how many officers in the past 25 years were killed due to shit holsters? I know of four. And the shit holsters are still being used. Cheap coppers and cheap department that won't mandate security holsters to save lives.
Be careful around those revolvers sticking out to the side.
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