City Living Allowance
Despite lower home prices, many Chicago-area workers with only one source of income remain shut out of the housing market because of the estimated $73,000 annual salary needed to qualify to buy a home here, according to a new study released Thursday.
At the same time, renters are being squeezed as an increasing amount of their paycheck goes toward housing, according to a report released Thursday by the Center for Housing Policy.
[...] To qualify for that $225,000 home, a buyer would need annual income of $73,104, effectively ending homeownership dreams for a variety of occupations ranging from civil engineers, welders, elementary school teachers, accountants and others whose annual incomes fall below that figure.
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
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Despite lower home prices, many Chicago-area workers with only one source of income remain shut out of the housing market because of the estimated $73,000 annual salary needed to qualify to buy a home here, according to a new study released Thursday.
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IN WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD???!!!
Gimme a break! If you don't want "covering-fire" to get to your car you will pay allot more!
wait till Stroger get a hold of your property taxes.
You silly, silly, ingrates. No one told you to be a police officer. All of you are lucky I allow you to work for me... ahhh this city I mean. Now go write some tickets to all of the ungratefull residents whom I allow to live in my...ahhh this city.
We are not getting raises it is as simple as that.
AND to injury to insult, county property taxes are killing us. If property values are down why the hell are taxes going up? Fuck you very much Stroeger.
225k home? Yeah, ok... find me one of those that DOESNT need 100k worth of remodeling!!!! 225k will get you a fixer upper on the south side. A raw deal!
shiiiiiiiiiiiit where do i find a 2-bedroom apt in a nice area for $1,000?
Keep protecting yuppie america and this will happen to you, karma in a sense.
more activity for what!
I know this won't be popular, but how about saving your money first so you have a substantial down payment? Many years ago in the "olden days" there was this thing they called saving. You actually had to wait to buy something. I think my parents and their generation actually had to have this thing called a downpayment before you bought a house! You know, a little "skin in the game". But those were the old days, before the "I want it now" immediate gratification mentality. And, if the banks didn't give everyone with a pulse a no-down mortgage in the last ten years that house wouldn't have been bid up to $225,000. But don't despair, that house will be very affordable in the next few years. Just save and wait.
Just seen this on the news that Chicago is highest in the country for housing prices. It cost more too buy a house and rent in chicago than any major city. From 2007 to 2009 rent has gone up 900 hundred and change per month and the average cost of a house is between 225,000 and 250,000 in the city. Now you know why the mexican's and polish's have 20 people living in their house and parking is extinct in single family heighborhoods with no Apartment buildings.
Almost all City workers need this "boost." The non-union employees (many of whom earn under 65k) are being forced to take 16 UNPAID furloughs! Gee- if the police were hiring, we'd apply - you all have it good
YES ! If you require me to live in the city, our absolute base minimum salary must equal be
$ 73,000.
OK, now lets talk about our benefits !
If you check big-city police departments, Chicago P.D. is the last one that requires residency within the city limits.
After the Detroit P.D., the CPD was also the last to end the miserable torture of rotating shifts--a real killer. When you keep changing the body's circadian rhythms, it has been medically proven to decrease longevity.
LeRoy Martin wanted to keep rotating tours as part of his "carrot and the stick" philosophy. If you had clout, you'd be assigned to a unit working steady tours, even with weekends off. Otherwise, rotate.
King Shortshanks says those studies are all wrong and I make more than enough to buy a house in Beverely or Edison Park.
He is so wise and just we need more people just like him.
Hold it just a minute.....Time to wake up pal!!!
Parking meters up!
Water meter rates up!
Property Taxes up!
TV cable taxes up!
Telephone wireless and land based taxes up!
Gas taxes up!
Electric taxes up!
Airport landing fees up!
Sewer taxes up!
Sales tax up!
Vehicle stickers up!
Residential parking stickers up!
Building Permit fees up!
City excise tax up!
Sales tax up!
WHERE DOSE ALL THE MONEY GO!!
225,000 will not get you much either in this city. another good reason for some of you young guys to transfer to a suburban department while you still can. imagine this city 15-20 years from now--- 20,000 per kid per year to send them to catholic/private high school. you will still be working your day off and the contract still will not be sttled on time.
Since property taxes are based on home value assessment, will we be seeing a cut in our property taxes any time soon? After all, our homes have lost value...
Saw mayor dick on news showing pie chart of the cities budget problems, he says that the unions need to make concessions with unpaid furlo days. The reporter than stated that he also said he will be talking to police and fire.
How is this stammering retard able to get away with all this bullshit while the media just sit there taking notes?
He is lining the cash accounts using the justification that the cities bond rating will go down, well im no economist but i think that with the present state of the world wide economy that ALL bond ratings have taken a dump.
He said that the deficit for next year could be up to 300 million!
How in the hell does he and his fifty alderthieves not take pay cuts, not give back that million dollar spending fund, the list could go on and on.
A true leader leads thru example, that simply explains how this city is in the mess that it is.
Stay safe.
I get a kick out of the pro-residency morons whose only argument is "that's what you signed up for when you came on the job."
With no regard for the dynamics of a city, they actually expect a young officer with a family to live in a decent neighborhood on a police officer's salary.
Does that mean we can forego the "allowance" and move the hell out of Dodge??
With Shortshanks playing a deadly game with the safety of "his" city, I think it may be the best thing... at least until the sheep wake up and show him the door....
I just have to put in here.
There is no need for a housing allowance for coppers or anyone else. Go for the raise you people deserve instead, and put it against a future downpayment on one of the many cheap houses that will be available here in not too long.
If you want affordable housing, campaign actively against all the financial and borrower bailouts and assistance that are only attempts to keep housing prices levitated.
They are going to go back to 1999 levels no matter what, but they are sticky on the downside because of all the government programs to assist borrowers and bailout banks.
The 2nd quarter 2009 has the highest number of NODs ever recorded. Those are Notice of Defaults, the first stage of foreclosure, and you can bet that 90% of them are going to become foreclosures. That means much more supply coming onto the market at some point.
The only reason that prices in Chicago are so high is for the same reason they are out of line with rents and incomes elsewhere:the easy lending of 2001 through 2006. The housing prices may look like they've dropped a lot from the 2006 peak, but they have only retraced part of the path back to the level they need to be in line with local rents and incomes.
The worst is yet to come, so don't get so bloody antsy to buy a house. Now that the foreclosure moratorium is over, more houses are being foreclosed than ever.
Worse, we're being set up for ANOTHER wave of defaults, because part of the Bush and Obama "recovery" plans include underwriting as many FHA loans as possible. Almost everyone buying a home these days is going FHA with 3% down, and the loan brokers are pushing unqualified people into FHA loans.
Anyone who buys now is a knife catcher. If you track prices in Chicago over the past two years since the drop off the peak, you will see that only lower end properties have dropped substantially in price. Mid and high end properties are still asking "wish" prices that are out of line with the means of their likely buyers.
The next wave of bad paper to hit will be the Alt-A and prime paper. Most of the loans made on mid-priced and high-priced properties over the past few years of the speculative rampage were Alt-A, and THEN the stupid borrowers took out HELOCs to buy stuff like $80K SUVs and boob jobs, so you have millions of owners underwater, and they will be walking away. The Alt-A wave will be bigger than the subprime wave ever thought of being, and it will involve a lot more money.
You and I are paying for this already through our taxes for the trillions of dollars both the Bush and Obama administrations have tossed at propping up the banks. So don't pay anymore by overpaying for a house or condo just now.
Don't be a knifecatcher. Don't be a Fucked Borrower.
Save your money for the 20% downpayment you will want to make when housing prices at last retreat to the level where an honest person of middling means can buy a decent place with a mortgage for 2.5X his income.
You're right, I'm a city worker and just make above 50k and will never be able to buy a house in the city. I've had to rent all of my adult life and it just keeps getting more expensive. Good job Daley.
may be some of the new guys CAN MARRY WOMEN W/ A REAL JOB.
COPPERS LOVE WAITRESSES AND BARTENDERS. I DONT KNOW HOW MANY GUYS I KNOW WHO MARRIED WOMEN W/ THE INTENTION OF STAYING HOME AND AND HAVING A SIX PACK OF KIDS!
THE POSTER THAT STATED PEOPLE SHOULD SAVE UP IS ON THE MARK.
I DO NOTICE NEW COPPERS ALWAYS GET A NEW CAR THOU....
DONT WORRY I HAVE PLENTY OF APARTMENT FOR U RENTER!
F&€k that little gump. Make NO concessions! His poor management of our tax dollars, unless you are a contractor pal of his, brought the city to this. Until he and the 50 wise men cut their pay to $1.00 a year let it burn.
Vote Dick out!!!!!
Sorry, I just took a 6% pay cut from the City. Your pleas for a raise are officially getting a deaf ear from me.
A READER INQUIRES:
Hold it just a minute.....Time to wake up pal!!!
Parking meters up!
Water meter rates up!
Property Taxes up!
TV cable taxes up!
Telephone wireless and land based taxes up!
Gas taxes up!
Electric taxes up!
Airport landing fees up!
Sewer taxes up!
Sales tax up!
Vehicle stickers up!
Residential parking stickers up!
Building Permit fees up!
City excise tax up!
Sales tax up!
WHERE DOSE [sic] ALL THE MONEY GO!!
ANOTHER READER ANSWERS:
Hate to tell you all, but most of the money in government goes to gov't worker salaries and benefits. Sad fact: we all, City employees, have had it too good for too long. Police, I hate to point out, are the biggest piece of the salary pie, just because of your (dwindling) numbers.
If the City's going to ever get its financial house back in order, it's going to have to come out of employee salaries. As a City employee, it pains me to say that, but that's the sad truth.
Just save and wait.
5/08/2009 06:08:00 AM
Ok knucklehead... the problem is that you have to ESTABLISH RESIDENCE PRIOR TO STARTING THE ACADEMY. So once you blow most of your checks on a crappy residence, how are you gonna save? And how are you supposed to send your kid to private school? Can't send him to school with the other 'honors' students that get bussed into my neighborhood....I didn't live in the city. Started out making 35k. And had ZERO days to save, and that was 10 years ago.... can't imagine how tough some of the new guys have it now. Some of you olde timers love to play the 'back in my day' card, which is fine to a point, but then you beam with pride that you got your northside house for 80k 30 years ago.... We signed up for a city job THAT SHOULD PROVIDE A SAFE CITY HOME WITH DECENT SCHOOLS FOR OUR KIDS. That is lacking! Time for a rep with balls to change the state law so that next time around we can bargain for residency.
Save your money for the 20% downpayment you will want to make when housing prices at last retreat to the level where an honest person of middling means can buy a decent place with a mortgage for 2.5X his income.
5/08/2009 08:46:00 AM
While Im saving, what to do about the madness happening in my current neighborhood? Im in Mt Greenwood, and was lucky enough to hear some shots fired last summer and notice a lot of folks 'hanging around' that are not from the neighborhood.... Can't afford to wait, need to be one of the first out of here before my house value disappears....
daley wants to cut all the "little people" who actually keep chicago running from the budget! Yet he has an overpriced 182,000 press secretary with cars and drivers, the old valet for victor reyes rosie andolino (silent victor reyes old gofer), running the airports and the expansion over 240K wasted to a person as smart as a doorknob but she kept her mouth shut about daley and was rewarded! Maybe the guys from 219 dearborn should really sit down with rosie and maybe just maybe an investigative reporter could look into the billions she is giving away to friends of the daley crime family!
years ago while in NYC i spoke to a city cop who told me that when he came into the city to go to court it cost him 20 bucks to park if he wasent lucky enough to be near his station house, also he lived out on long island and his prop, taxes were 6,000 a year, now this was back in the late 80s, to go from NYC to brooklyn and then to manhattan and to long island the tolls were in ecsess of 20 bucks. i wonder what it is now, with Toddster at the helm we will soon be there.
Almost all City workers need this "boost." The non-union employees (many of whom earn under 65k) are being forced to take 16 UNPAID furloughs! Gee- if the police were hiring, we'd apply - you all have it good
fuck off the police were hiring like crazy for years and you didn't take the test. so now you want it? because it has stability? i bet you your first months salary that you piss your pants the first time you hear gun shots while on duty and think twice about taking this job. we don't get paid for what we do. we get paid for what we might have to do. ie; run towards gunfire, deal with the most violent and crazy gangbangers you could imagine, see some of the most heartbreaking cases of child abuse, sexual abuse, dead bodies etc. another thing you don't know is that we have "hits" put out on us by these bangers on a daily basis. so once again go fuck yourself.
This would be me!!! I hate this shithole city, I WANT OUT!!!!
Alot of people ask me, hey NNS why do you live on the North Side?
Real estate is all about LOCATION! I want to be by the clubs, the lake and the ACTION if you get my drift.
Sorry, I don't want to live by Ford City, no offense!
But on "my side" unless you're Alderman Tunney's houseboy you're not going to be able to afford a decent place to lay your head down at night. Especially with NO CONTRACT! (ps - no works suckas!)
and they want us to live in the highest priced city in the world. Dump Daley...... Daley is on the ropes and knows it's over. Get ready for something new my friends.
Here in Arizona they actually cut your real estate taxes if the value of your home declines.
old retired guy
Blogger NorthSide said...
If you check big-city police departments, Chicago P.D. is the last one that requires residency within the city limits.
After the Detroit P.D., the CPD was also the last to end the miserable torture of rotating shifts--a real killer. When you keep changing the body's circadian rhythms, it has been medically proven to decrease longevity.
LeRoy Martin wanted to keep rotating tours as part of his "carrot and the stick" philosophy. If you had clout, you'd be assigned to a unit working steady tours, even with weekends off. Otherwise, rotate.
5/08/2009 08:01:00 AM
So what's your point. You had to go several supt's back to give this example, the forum is about the affordability of homeownership not who had clout for steady watches with weekends off. Northside Please find something else to do.
Anonymous said...
How is this stammering retard able to get away with all this bullshit while the media just sit there taking notes?
Because he keeps getting voted in? I dunno, just a guess.
You could try being a pioneer. What would happen if fifty coppers all brought, fixed up and lived in a shit community? But NOOOOOOO, I want it all and I want it NOW!
Let's do a reality check here. I own a house on the southwest side in what used to be a good cop neighborhood. If the residency requirement is taken away, what do think is going to happen to our home values on the southwest and northwest sides with so many houses for sale as city workers flee? Yes, I want to move before retirement, since I got a few more years to go, but really, only renters are going to come out of that change intact.
I give a shit about a city allowance of any kind, if it comes fine, I just don't care.
I am only looking at the end of this and it is only 4 years, 4 months and 22 days until a well earned retirement. Then I will move the hell away from here and only come back to go to a baseball or hockey game or if shortshanks is indicted I will come for the indictment party.
8:46's post should be required reading for everybody. He nailed it!
FORBES magazine has just ranked the twenty most OVERPRICED cities (SMSA) in the nation:
1. Los Angeles
2. CHICAGO3. Miami
4. New York City
5. Providence, RI
6. Riverside, CA
7. Long Island, NY (Nassau & Suffolk Co.)
8. Cleveland
9. Newark (tie)
9. San Diego (tie)
11. Philadelphia
12. Portland, OR
13. Tampa (tie)
13. Memphis (tie)
15. Orlando
16. St. Louis
17. Jacksonville
18. San Francisco
19. Boston (tie)
19. Warren, MI (tie)
Personally, I like living in Chicago. However, a police family with children has a COMPELLING argument against Daley's residency rule with Chicago being the second most overpriced city in the nation.
Even if challenged by a high school debating team, Daley doesn't have a leg to stand on in perpetuating police residency.
Under analysis, his clandestine political agenda is utter drivel. I defy the Stuttering Prick to cite any other major police department bound by this archaic bullshit.
I just got back from visiting a cousin in Alameda, CA near S.F. I quit bitching after I heard what they paid. 560K for an 1800 sq foot home. Quite nice but not specatcular. They pay 1% property tax but still - 5,060. Yikes!!
Chicago bashed on Yahoo again for being an overpriced shithole! Second only to L.A., but at least they have warm winters.
PLEASE tell me the FOP is going to be jumping ALL OVER THIS!!! See, had the FOP hired a PR firm, this would get spun left and right with numerous "leaks" to the media to show our side!!! I dont get it... HIRE A PROFESSIONAL PR FIRM TO TELL OUR SIDE!!!!!
I know this won't be popular, but how about saving your money first so you have a substantial down payment? Many years ago in the "olden days" there was this thing they called saving. You actually had to wait to buy something. I think my parents and their generation actually had to have this thing called a downpayment before you bought a house! You know, a little "skin in the game". But those were the old days, before the "I want it now" immediate gratification mentality. And, if the banks didn't give everyone with a pulse a no-down mortgage in the last ten years that house wouldn't have been bid up to $225,000. But don't despair, that house will be very affordable in the next few years. Just save and wait.
5/08/2009 06:08:00 AM
yeah... the "good ol days" when a 3 flat cost 40K... how the fuck am I, as a cop, and a wife who is a teacher, suppose to come up with $60K for a 20% down payment??? I guess I am suppose to rent and never be given the opportunity to own a home while south side will gets government assistance upon government assistance and gets to live in a home he "owns" while sitting on his ass doing nothing but collecting SSI because he has bullshit sickle cell or whatever nonsense he has come up with! FUCK THAT! Nice logic, you fucking hair gel... Im glad mommy and daddy helped you "save" the 20% on your $600,000 house in sauganash you silver spooned little bitch!
"Since property taxes are based on home value assessment, will we be seeing a cut in our property taxes any time soon? After all, our homes have lost value...
5/08/2009 08:25:00 AM"
The actual, individual property taxpayer's tax bill is based on the following factors:
1. The sum total of all county agencies' budgetary requests
2. The sum total of all property taxable real properties', (located within the boundaries of the county), assessed values, said total determining the initial estimated tax multiplier, which, when applied to the total assessed value approximately equals the sum total of all county agencies' budgetary requests
3. The further application of the many and various adjustment factors to each individual property owners tax bill, ie., senor citizen tax increase cap, homestead deduction for property owners who reside on the property in question, equalizer applied to cook county, the effects that TIF zones have, relative to their functioning as freezes on any increases in a given property's assessed value increasing that property's tax liability, but withholding said increases from the county's coffers, etc., resulting in a final determination of exactly what the tax multiplier will be, to ensure that the total requested county budget is funded
Since the relationship between a real property's assessed value and that property's 'share' of the total county tax burden is dependent upon both the property's assessed value and the chosen tax multiplier, if a given property's assessed value decreases, and the county's requested total amount of funding remains the same or increases, what the county then does is increase the tax multiplier to achieve the total funding requested by same.
Even if every piece of real property were to be assessed at, say, 50% of it's previously assessed value, if the county total budgetary request remains the same, the multiplier would be increased and you, the property owner, would still pay the same as you had paid previous to said decreased assessment.
The only thing that can reduce your property taxes is for the county to reduce it's total budgetary request.
and the alderthieves took a 6.75% paise last year, plus the huge cash they get every year over $500,000 to use at will! Must be nice! And they carry guns,fuck it when they are called about crime let them go out and patrol their shit wards!
Anonymous said...
Let's do a reality check here. I own a house on the southwest side in what used to be a good cop neighborhood. If the residency requirement is taken away, what do think is going to happen to our home values on the southwest and northwest sides with so many houses for sale as city workers flee? Yes, I want to move before retirement, since I got a few more years to go, but really, only renters are going to come out of that change intact.
5/08/2009 04:41:00 PM
No one will move fast,especially in this shit obama economy!
N WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD???!!!
Gimme a break! If you don't want "covering-fire" to get to your car you will pay allot more!
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stay off the blog when ur drunk !!
Sorry, I just took a 6% pay cut from the City. Your pleas for a raise are officially getting a deaf ear from me.
5/08/2009 10:45:00 AM
Great and my wave to you is officially a single finger salute. You got screwed so screw everyone else right....Dumbass
3:40 pm
Are you really that stupid? Northside's point is obvious. Shortshanks can't justify residency for police.
HIRE A PROFESSIONAL PR FIRM TO TELL OUR SIDE!!!!!
The FOP wont do that since they are all deep throating the mayor!
I just got back from visiting a cousin in Alameda, CA near S.F. I quit bitching after I heard what they paid. 560K for an 1800 sq foot home. Quite nice but not specatcular. They pay 1% property tax but still - 5,060. Yikes!!
5/08/2009 09:55:00 PM
Are you kidding me??
560K for a 1800 sq. house is pretty much the norm in Sauganash, Edgebrook and Wildwood and the taxes are a heck of alot higher than $5060.00
Almost all City workers need this "boost." The non-union employees (many of whom earn under 65k) are being forced to take 16 UNPAID furloughs! Gee- if the police were hiring, we'd apply - you all have it good
5/08/2009 07:44:00 AM
no other city owrkers put their lives on the line each and every day! We seem to be forgetting that accross the board! There are assholes out there who want the police dead! PLAIN AND SIMPLE! Ask Philly or Oakland about that! We dont dig ditches, or cut down trees, or fill pot holes... We are required to wear a bullet proof vest and a gun to work FOR A REASON! We have to deal with the scum bags that you, and every other worker in this city would turn and run from! When we hear shots fired we run in while you run away! Yes, we knew these risks when we took this job, but we also knew with those risks came good pay, good benefits, good faith negotiations, and decent raises every so often. So if you can take away the former, we will gladly give back the latter... until that time GIVE ME WHAT IS OWED TO ME!!! And dont even go down the road of the "economy"... When times were good (as they were when our contract expired 2 years ago) no one was running to give us a raise! When these bankers, doctors, accountants, lawyers etc etc were living high on the hog we never opened our mouth! We honored our contract! Never did WE say "hey, times are good, renegotiate our contract...WE WANT MORE"... not once! We sat here making our $68K a year and did it quietly.. now, because "times are tough" this mayor expects us to make all sorts of concessions??? PUH-LEASE!!! Besides, all signs are pointing to this economy rightin its self... And you KNOW daley is not happy about that! Hell, my deferred comp is back above the even mark for the first time in over a year! Do we have it good? Sure, we have it good--not great, not spectacular, but good. And THAT is what I signed up for!!!
yeah... the "good ol days" when a 3 flat cost 40K... how the fuck am I, as a cop, and a wife who is a teacher, suppose to come up with $60K for a 20% down payment??? I guess I am suppose to rent and never be given the opportunity to own a home while south side will gets government assistance upon government assistance and gets to live in a home he "owns" while sitting on his ass doing nothing but collecting SSI because he has bullshit sickle cell or whatever nonsense he has come up with! FUCK THAT! Nice logic, you fucking hair gel... Im glad mommy and daddy helped you "save" the 20% on your $600,000 house in sauganash you silver spooned little bitch!
5/08/2009 10:39:00 PM 30 years ago cops were making $20 grand a year.
I need to go on singlerichcougars.com
To all the Union Workers of the City who are frustrated with the Police and Fire Departments asking for a fair contract just a thought.
I remember when I came on the Police Department 14 years ago and you all laughed saying you couldn't be a Cop because you couldn't afford the paycut. Not to mention the six day work week as well as holiday hours.
Aren't you actually skilled workers who can do side jobs to make extra income. I know a lot of Police who work their day off to make money to pay tuition and save money to buy homes.
So now we're the bad guy because we want to see our salary increased. I think it might be a little easier for a skilled laborer to relocate to a less expensive city and find work and commute if necessary than Police finding a spot in another Departemnt.
Don't be haters because of your choice of profession.
residency is as outdated as 24 hour shifts for firemen. Daley get with the times and let us move out or put us on 24 hour shifts so i can get some sleep. Plus I would like living rent free at the firehouse.
You could try being a pioneer. What would happen if fifty coppers all brought, fixed up and lived in a shit community? But NOOOOOOO, I want it all and I want it NOW!
5/08/2009 03:48:00 PM
Easy there Christopher Columbus. You first then we will follow!
225k home? Yeah, ok... find me one of those that DOESNT need 100k worth of remodeling!!!! 225k will get you a fixer upper on the south side. A raw deal!
5/08/2009 02:32:00 AM
Thats not right. You can find a 200k home on the north side as well. You just have to tear it all down and build from scratch!
I need to go on singlerichcougars.com
5/09/2009 08:29:00 AM
Yep -and also try meetaninmate.com since Daley gives away jobs and benefits to ex-felons. Why not start your courting processing while they're stll locked up?
You could try being a pioneer. What would happen if fifty coppers all brought, fixed up and lived in a shit community? But NOOOOOOO, I want it all and I want it NOW!
5/08/2009 03:48:00 PM
If you really were a copper (with more than 18 months on) you would remember a funeral we went to...
So what's your point. You had to go several supt's back to give this example, the forum is about the affordability of homeownership not who had clout for steady watches with weekends off. Northside Please find something else to do.
5/08/2009 03:40:00 PM
HIS POINT MORON WAS THE FACT WE STILL HAVE A RESIDENCY RULE, GO POLISH YOUR M4 IN FRONT OF YOUR KIDS BONESTROKE
We did not save anything. We were able to buy three houses so far with minimum money down in a nice neighborhood. That was before 2004. It used to be you graduated the academy and bought a house. Banks had many programs or just police officers and there is the city mortgage program. Now officers are lucky if they can rent when they get out of the academy. I am not knocking your saving money theory but it was not that hard before.
Residency Requirement is highly UNCONSTITUTIONAL.. WE request the U.S. Attorney immediately open an investigation of this, and give us the same rights as all US Citizens are entitled to, and after that, reparations paid to all of us for every year we've been discriminated against for being CFD/CPD employees.
all the CHICAGO potholes are are disgusting, and are polluting the ground, as they are all filled up with debris, garbage, filth, road oil, polluted water, which is being absorbed into the ground and polluting our earth and our water supply. EPA, where are you??? Isn't it amazing that if you pour some old oil onto the ground or into a sewer you could be fined or even jailed, but it's OK when the crooked City of Shitcago does it, in a slightly different way? The usual liberal DemocRAT government Hypocracy in action. Lib-Commie News Media, Federal Environmental Protection, where are you?
"Sorry, I just took a 6% pay cut from the City. Your pleas for a raise are officially getting a deaf ear from me.
5/08/2009 10:45:00 AM"
Of course they did.
Your ear canals being packed solid with the mayor's spunk, you would have a hard time hearing.
How are your bowel movements working these days?
Anonymous said...
You could try being a pioneer. What would happen if fifty coppers all brought, fixed up and lived in a shit community? But NOOOOOOO, I want it all and I want it NOW!
5/08/2009 03:48:00 PM
If you really were a copper (with more than 18 months on) you would remember a funeral we went to...
5/09/2009 04:56:00 PM
First of all jagwipe my DOA is more than 20 years, secondly, making a comparison to Officer V is comparing apples to oranges, who would not have made out by buying into a neighborhood that is now the place to live due to gentrification, nevermind you are obviously too much of a simpleton to even contimplate the notion.
Anonymous said...
You could try being a pioneer. What would happen if fifty coppers all brought, fixed up and lived in a shit community? But NOOOOOOO, I want it all and I want it NOW!
5/08/2009 03:48:00 PM
Easy there Christopher Columbus. You first then we will follow!
5/09/2009 12:03:00 PM
But my man Friday, I did. Now I purchased a stamp of a property that has increase, yes even in this economy, more than 50 percent within 10 years.
If I walked away now I would make a handsome profit, but if I hold on a little longer...say until retirement, I could make oooooo in excess of double what I originally put down, and I'm taking into consideration inflation, so come on, think it through, o never mind you obviously are a simpleton.
Northside said...
If you check big-city police departments, Chicago P.D. is the last one that requires residency within the city limits.
After the Detroit P.D., the CPD was also the last to end the miserable torture of rotating shifts--a real killer. When you keep changing the body's circadian rhythms, it has been medically proven to decrease longevity.
LeRoy Martin wanted to keep rotating tours as part of his "carrot and the stick" philosophy. If you had clout, you'd be assigned to a unit working steady tours, even with weekends off. Otherwise, rotate.
5/08/2009 08:01:00 AM
Anonymous said...
So what's your point. You had to go several supt's back to give this example, the forum is about the affordability of homeownership not who had clout for steady watches with weekends off. Northside Please find something else to do.
5/08/2009 03:40:00 PM
HIS POINT MORON WAS THE FACT WE STILL HAVE A RESIDENCY RULE, GO POLISH YOUR M4 IN FRONT OF YOUR KIDS BONESTROKE
5/09/2009 05:41:00 PM
REALLY! Do you know how to read? Check out the first entry to this reply. Where o wordsmith after his initial comment of CPD being the last of the big city dept.'s that require residency does he support or even capitulate his initial point about the residency rule? Please enlighten the moronic o wise one, before I polish my M4 you obviously have implied that the residecy rule was his point, yet there was no follow up supportive argument to the so called point. In other words, before you castigate someone a moron you should at least know what the point was, nevermind, this is like speaking to the wall. One last point, Northside should find something else to do.
REALLY! Do you know how to read? Check out the first entry to this reply. Where o wordsmith after his initial comment of CPD being the last of the big city dept.'s that require residency does he support or even capitulate his initial point about the residency rule? Please enlighten the moronic o wise one, before I polish my M4 you obviously have implied that the residecy rule was his point, yet there was no follow up supportive argument to the so called point. In other words, before you castigate someone a moron you should at least know what the point was, nevermind, this is like speaking to the wall. One last point, Northside should find something else to do.
5/10/2009 07:20:00 PM
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Wow! Relax, it's just a blog! You must be a joy to be around.
To the guys beefing about residency: it's a state law in illinois for cities with over one million people; municiple workers must reside within THAT municipality....that law must be changed by illinois politicos...go to an fop meeting once in a while and find out for yourself...
Times are tough on everyone but...
Got into a decent home in an area north. Gave up trips, summer homes, boats, nice cars, catholic schools, etc. to have my kids grow up in a better area that had less riff raff...
Economy, finances, no raises, cost of living, lack of proactivity/overtime/court pay etc. JUST KILLING ME!
Side Jobs but means working 7 days a week...I KNOW WE ALL DO IT....
I miss the kids SHIT and their years and the normalcy of life others have so to make ends meet with wife trying to work again after dealiing with kids (nannies can cost or day care too)
Its like we are expected to live with our family at lower standards if you want to keep ahead of
DEBT, LOANS, REFINANCING etc....
OUR STRESS IS worse than any other citizens due to our work related issues (the type of work we do, the schedules we work, the prices we pay to live in the city, the cost of living in general!)
HELP US!
"Wow! Relax, it's just a blog! You must be a joy to be around.
5/10/2009 10:03:00 PM"
C'Mon, if she's blowing off steam here, there's a good chance that she's in a better mood when her husband gets home.
Cut the man a little slack here.
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