Ike, Shut Up
- A Chicago city council committee has voted to approve a mandatory five-day jail sentence for anybody caught with an illegal gun.
The five days in jail would be for the first offense: Caught with an unauthorized gun in the city of Chicago.
The proposal was approved by the city council police and fire committee at the insistence of some West Side aldermen, including committee chairman Alderman Isaac Carothers.
Seems a waste of time - they have to be convicted in a Cook County court first of all - that might take a year or two. And once they get probation for whatever assault, robbery, battery or murder they are convicted of, they might serve county time or downstate time.
But it seems truly silly that Ike, who is under a Federal indictment, wore a wire, and if reports are to be believed, will shortly plead guilty to some sort of mail fraud and fixing charges, is still allowed to serve and propose laws that will have absolutely no impact on crime whatsoever. None. Five days? Ike, you're a moron. Just shut up, dance to the tune your federal handlers are playing for you, and go serve your Club Fed time with some modicum of shame.
But it seems truly silly that Ike, who is under a Federal indictment, wore a wire, and if reports are to be believed, will shortly plead guilty to some sort of mail fraud and fixing charges, is still allowed to serve and propose laws that will have absolutely no impact on crime whatsoever. None. Five days? Ike, you're a moron. Just shut up, dance to the tune your federal handlers are playing for you, and go serve your Club Fed time with some modicum of shame.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
48 Comments:
OMG It's illegal to carry a gun in Chicago? 5 whole days? Ain't gonna do shite just like the handgun registration ordinance dont do shite.
Dorothy Tillman doing 5 days, yeah right.
How is it our system is so fucked up that an indicted alderman is still working?? How bout SUSPENDED WITHOUT PAY???!!! Hell, Jerry F. and that rat Kieth H. have only been indicted (I don't think the RAT has plead as of yet) so why not let them continue to work the street until their trial? This Shitty is so bullshit it makes my stomach wretch!
This is not funny because there is never an exception for the on-duty police that may make a technical violation. Imagine you're on school property and you happen to slap a person in performance of your duty (fill in the blanks here) and the beef is put in and it's deemed excessive force and therefore official misconduct and to wit you were armed within so many feet of a school..so that all the enhancing elements attach. Guess what, our very left wing would gladly put you in jail, ahead of Charles Manson, to make a point. Be careful of the law, the law is an ass.
How many times have you got that envelope fom the CCSA give that UUW by felon probation??
CC does not care.
Hey Ike the next person caught with a strap my end up being your cellmate. DO US ALL A FAVOR AND JUST GO AWAY LIKE YOUR CROOKED ASS DAD.
Hello out there in Tactical land, my fellow Delta Force officers! Sorry if I'm a little sour today, but this was the worst tactical tour I've had in my illustrious 4 year career. Worst tour ever. It all started simple enough when I went to branch 50 to testify in a high profile case where I long-formed an Elote' vendor PERP that was operating without a license. The case got tossed out and the old judge told me to, "learn the law." but whatever.
Even though I was wearing a brown, corduroys suit, I decided to head straight to work. (After I made tac I went to the men's wherehouse and bought a suit for everyday of the week for court. My partner, Rudy Thanosaurus the III, once actually showed up to court wearing a blue shirt! What a goof!) I made sure I had all the necessary tools in my gym bag. Chicago bar, grappling hook, smoke grenades, flame thrower, twinkies, Vaseline, Silly Puddy, and a machete.
As I sat in my CRUISER, drinking my Red Bull, I heard a thunderous Boom! I pulled out my modified Glock .45, jumped out of the CRUISER, and rolled to the ground in a fighting tactical position. I thought it was some Jousters or Gaylords that were after me for locking them up for dime bags, ruining their two block drug ring. You could only imagine my horror fellow gang and tac officers when I realized I had stumbled onto every Delta Force officers worst nightmare. Yes, Dear lord, God help me, I on-viewed a three car traffic accident!!!!!!!!
I quickly got on my short stemmed radio and demanded the dispatcher send me a uniformed officer to do the paper. The callous dispatcher, sounding like Dee, the sarcastic sister from "What's Happening" replied, "You better grab a Snickers sugar, cuz we've been in a backlog all night. All the cars are down" It was then that I started hyper-ventilating. An Ice Cream truck driver had plowed into two other cars. One driver was a polish immigrant, the other had an illegal mexican couple. The ice cream driver was so bloody he could have been an Eskimo or a vampire for all I knew. The ambulance driver on scene told me to stop crying then asked what the RD number was. When I told him I was on tac, and that I didn't do paper, he shook his head, then took the bloody ice cream carcass away.
A marked car then started to drive past. Before they could get too far, I threw myself onto the hood of the CRUISER.
"You've got to help me! I stumbled upon this accident. I'd do the paper, but my pen broke! I swear!"
The driver, some old-timer, yelled out the window at me.
"You fat, dumb, gel haired retard! We're on our way to a 10-1! Fuck off!"
They then floored the CRUISER, causing me to flip over on the ground and on my head, knocking me out. You could only imagine my annoyance when I woke up a couple hours later and found the mexican couple still there. Thank God the polish guy left at least. The sun had started to come up, so I had to act fast. I trotted over to a Walgreens on the corner, and though it tore my heart out, I bought a pack of pens. Something I swore I'd never do again. I wrote the event# on the back of misc. card and gave it to the mexican lady.
She kept crying though, pointing to whom I would assume was her husband. Earlier in the night he was as tan as Ricardo Montlebaum, but now he was sickeningly blue, with foam coming out of his mouth. I think he was having a fit or a heart attack or something. It was kind of funny. He looked like Boo Berry from that 1980's cereal. Having done my job I went home. Guys at the station were laughing at me because my pants had split open and they could see my ZIMA logo boxer shorts. Anyway, sorry about the long post. Thanks for letting me vent about my worst tactical day ever. Don't worry about me. I'm sitting at home, on my fourth egg McMuffin, watching one of my favorite episodes of The Shield on dvd. Be safe out there fellow Delta Force officers.
That ordinance which wouldn’t be legal in the first place since ordinance violations are not jailable isn’t aimed at the shitheads, it is aimed at honest citizens who have disregarded the unconstitutional city ban on guns. They are probably in a mad rush to seize as many guns from honest citizens as possible right now before the Supreme Court strikes down the cities gun ban.
If there was anyone who needs jailing it is those Federal Appeals Court Judges who turned in a decision in favor of the cities gun ban a few months back when that decision was without question an erroneous one and extended the life of the cities illegal law.
What else can be expected when the inmates run the asylum.
Ike the Mic. Shut the hell up!
ULTIMATE TACTICAL WARRIOR :
WE STILL HAVE JOUSTERS OUT THERE?
I/F
They should enact the same punishment for unlicensed drivers attemping to pass their state ID off as a valid drviver's license.
Pooky'd be doin' some time.
They should try to include a five day term for wearing your pants around your ass.
Pooky'd be doin' some time.
They should give five days to anyone caught abusing the LINK system.
Pooky'd be doin' some time.
How about five days for rims too big for your ride?
Pooky'd be doin' some time.
Just when I thought I had a great idea, this dog ass comes up with this bullshit law...
I was going to tell Shortshanks that since he refuses to address the concerns of the citizens with safety through a huge list of his deficiencies, I was going to propose having all the confiscated weapons passed out to all our good neighbors so maybe, at least, they could protect themselves enough to get a good nights sleep...
Any other ideas?
9/04/2009 02:54:00 AM
Funniest thing I've read in a long time but you gave up where you work. You must work in the 009th district since your post sounds just like our illustrious tact team. Hey dispatchers that may be reading this, our GENERAL ORDERS state that when in a backlog, tact and gang teams are required to be dispatched regular jobs and, are you ready for this? DO PAPER!!! Oh and let's not forget, FACIAL HAIR MUST ADHERE TO UNIFORM STANDARDS. You are not working in an undercover capacity despite what you might think.
OT
Why hasn't there been an outcry to release Sirhan Sirhan. It's a mandatory life with no parole to kill a Kennedy but everyone else gets time off for good behavior especially if they shot Reagan or tried to kill Ford. Same for the goof that killed John Lennon.
Look, locking up these POS gang bangers with guns, I have no problem with.
What I do have a problem with is an Alderman who is under Federal indictment and who agreed to wear a wire for the Federal Prosecutor, (which in my eyes is an admission of guilt because why else would he wear a wire?), and is still participating in lawmaking!
Even worse, NO ONE, NOT the Mayor, NOT the City Council, NOT one single Alderman, NOT the Chicago Police Supt, NOT the Cook County States Attorney, Not the Inspector General, (when we had one), NOT the Attorney General, NOT the Dept of Justice and NOT EVEN OUR OWN UNION has called for Ike Carothers to resign from the Council OR EVEN STEP DOWN AS THE HEAD OF THE POLICE AND FIRE COMMITTEE!!!!!!!!! WTF?
I guess when your Mayor is also the co-Godfather of the Daley/Burke Crime family, expectations of doing the right thing or even saying the right thing, are just laughable gibberish!
And the media in this town are such pussies, I wouldn't hire them to write my high school newsletters!
ike your done,and we hope and pray you have some testicular fortitude (balls), and turn in daley and the other crooked 49 spineless worms! "Be a man ike for Chist sake" Your a black man speak up, don't be so scared!!
So if you get caught with a jammy, and you aren't doing anything else wrong, can you sue the city for its unconstitutional stance on gun control?
That ordinance which wouldn’t be legal in the first place since ordinance violations are not jailable isn’t aimed at the shitheads, it is aimed at honest citizens who have disregarded the unconstitutional city ban on guns. They are probably in a mad rush to seize as many guns from honest citizens as possible right now before the Supreme Court strikes down the cities gun ban.
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Some of them are jailable. The City has several municipal misdemeanor charges. Drinking on the public way is one.
Ultimate Tactical Warrior for mayor!
Ultimate Tactical Warrior is my new hero.
So now the City of Chicago is going to jail the poor,hardworking, peaceable corner store owner who has a semi under the counter to defend himself (and his customers)from cowardly armed robbers. Brilliant crime fighting strategy. Brilliant.
What about the little old lady with the old revolver tucked in her apron - for the just in case moment? Put her in jail. Crime solved. Brilliant.
TO THE ULTIMATE TACTICAL WARRIOR...YOU ARE HYSTERICAL...I LOVE YOUR STORIES..THEY CRACK ME UP....KEEP IT UP!!!
I wen to Home Depot the other day on Grand ave and ran into IKE. Must be nice to do all of your shopping on company time. My wife says who is that guy staring at you? I said thats just another one of our useless criminal politicians. What a stroke.......trying to meet and greet people as he puts his shopping bags in his car. Get used to that fancy suit now Ike.....hopefully you will look good in county khakis.
-not a cop, just a good citizen who thinks the police get fucked over way too much.
This is just more Cook County garbage. I am sorry but the fact is that we need CCW laws. The gang bangers are going to carry and not be deterred by 5 days in lockup. This will only harm the good people who are terrified of the criminals who are working for the city and keeping the city's alderman and mayor in power.
God bless the CPD and nobody else.
Ultimate tactical Officer...you rock!
Totally STUPID idea, and just another waste of Taxpayers dollars. We already have the most gun control laws and ordinances in the USA; and what good have they done. They just make Lawyers richer, taxpayers poorer, and criminals don't pay any attention to any of it anyway...
JIM "HOTDOGS" "FREE GARBAGE" BALCER FROM 11TH WARD IS NEXT. Ike and Him use to go to all the CPD graduations together. Aldercreature Balcerhead's cell phone is turned off now! Caught on tape with the FBI!!!C Ya U did Crap for Vets-Semper Fi
How many times have you got that envelope fom the CCSA give that UUW by felon probation??
CC does not care.
9/04/2009 01:02:00 AM
Very eloquently stated. Maybe what you meant to say was "How many times has the SAO given a guy probation for UUW by a felon and you received a letter about it?"
Now, wonder to yourself why your reports trip you up all the time in court.
I agree with you, it seems like the County (especially the bench) is pro-criminal but for God's sake could you learn to write in english?
LONG LIVE ULTIMATE TACK WARRIOR
you hit the nail right on the head Ultimate Tactical Warrior...lol. Where I work, your mentality fits over three-quarters of the goofs on tact. Keep on getting those dime bags tough guys!
You have to have the trial first there Mr. Ike ....
can be sentenced simply based on an arrest
did this guy go to public school?
Some of them are jailable. The City has several municipal misdemeanor charges. Drinking on the public way is one.
9/04/2009 10:14:00 AM
You cannot legally jail someone for an ordinance violation.
Ain't no space in county. Be lucky they'll even get 5 days. County's over crowded with dope offenders mostly.
"Ike, who is under a Federal indictment, wore a wire, and if reports are to be believed, will shortly plead guilty to some sort of mail fraud and fixing charges"
IF IKE IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY & IS ALLOWED TO COLLECT A CITY PAYCHECK SHOULDN'T JERRY FINNEGAN BE ALLOWED TO DO THE SAME?
THE RUNT IS ALL ABOUT TRANSPARENCY IN HIS GOVERNING BODIES?
I'M JUST SAYING...
-Felony gun possession = 5 days 1st OFFENSE.......
THIS is for a dangerous weapon that could KILL someone mind you!
**(Also the percentages are greater that it will be a GANG member with a RAP SHEET/CRIMINAL HISTORY too.)
THEN
-Misdemeanor battery (Cozzi)= 40 monthes FEDERAL PRISON....?
For a VETERAN police officer that was already punished via suspension time that has NO CRIMINAL RECORD!!!! WTF???
Justice served?
Anonymous said...
Some of them are jailable. The City has several municipal misdemeanor charges. Drinking on the public way is one.
9/04/2009 10:14:00 AM
You cannot legally jail someone for an ordinance violation.
9/04/2009 11:48:00 PM
You'd better check that again. There are several mcc charges that allow for jail time. DOPW is one of them as is non-motorist obstructing traffic.
9/04/2009 08:54:00 AM
YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!! He is head of the police committee still, and not only did he push this bs through he is trying to get final say in our lethal force orders. This ordinance , which gives the aldercreatures final say on our use of force orders, has been intorduced to the whole council and it awaiting committee review. Police and finance committee review bc all they are worried about is money, HEY it is our asses on the line out there!!! People please check the city clerk web site to see when this comes up on the agenda at the committee meeting and attend that committee meeting. It is vital we let him and the city and media know that we will not stand by and watch this. It is insane to allow him or any council member for that matter determine OUR general orders. They are not the police. We have a WHOLE unit set aside to research and write our orders. The council should so not be the final say on how we handle situations that concern our lives.
Wrong post title SCC. We want Ike to talk, we want Ike to sing. That is, if you know what I mean.
Ah, it gets better. Ike wants to arrest people for not wearing lifejackets in their own boats. I kid you not.
Ain't no space in county. Be lucky they'll even get 5 days. County's over crowded with dope offenders mostly.
9/04/2009 11:57:00 PM
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What rock have you been hiding under? County is WAY underused these days. Somethin' to do with arrests being down.
Want to bet that a crook like Carothers gets sent to Oxford where he can swap stories with George Ryan, while an honorable man who had.already served his time, then got thrown under the bus by J-Pud languishes in the Louisiana swampland?
First and formost, the mayor is a hipocrite for allowing Ike to remain on the police and fire committee after being indicted. He has the right to reamin an alderman, but not associated with making policy for police officers. Where is the outrage??
I am glad that I retired in one piece. I stayed in the city for a little over one year and moved out. The best move I ever made. The best thing that could happen to Chicago politics is to do away with the employee residence rule. Let qualified people from all over enter city service, those who have no allegence to the alderman. NEVER HAPPEN!!!
Want to bet that a crook like Carothers gets sent to Oxford where he can swap stories with George Ryan, while an honorable man who had.already served his time, then got thrown under the bus by J-Pud languishes in the Louisiana swampland?
9/05/2009 01:20:00 PM
George has been gone from Oxford for quite awhile. He is now in Duluth, Minn.
He's gonna be a convicted felon anyway. He'll have to give up his guns.
George has been gone from Oxford for quite awhile. He is now in Duluth, Minn.
9/06/2009 11:01:00 AM
Correction: He's now at Terre Haute, IN
I can see it now........Ryan.....Ike.....and Bag O' Chips! All in the same room/cell! Lovin' it!!
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