IOD Problems?
We hadn't heard this one:
- Hey scc just thought that you should be made aware of a real problem at the medical section. Apparently Daley switched all IOD cases to a private company called Coventry. This company has denied so many treatments that the FOP is starting a class action law suit. I have been out of work for months now and while my scheduled surgery is not emergency I am in great pain. I even heard of an officer (also IOD) who was in need of semi-emergency surgery who was just denied. The FOP is suggesting that we just get the treatments and that hopefully the lawsuit will reimburse us. However being and IOD issue the hospitals may not even take our private insurance. This is ridiculous and hopefully the officer in need of time sensitive surgery will not have to wait much longer. I am in great pain but am still functional. Why is our health and safety in the line of duty being trusted to a private insurance company that according to there website specializes in "cost cutting" Please address this SCC.
Nothing like inspiring the troops to work harder by making sure if they get injured, the pain lasts for years and years longer than is necessary. Any info is appreciated.
Labels: info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
182 Comments:
Who was the young police officer who passed away last night? Although they are saying natural they don't know the cause yet.
Da Mare must be waiting for Obama Care to handle IOD's too.
The only reason the 55 and out offer exists; is to reduce costs and pass the buck onto the Federal government.
The City of Chicago plans on dumping all the retirees into the Obama Care.
Atlas Shrugged, The book has become reality. Inact Term limits!!!! Vote out Incumbemts!! Run for Office before we become Great Britian or Worse. God Bless the CPD and the Hard working people of Chicago, IL........WE DESERVE BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The news media should have had Cheryl Burton cover the mental shooting in the Loop.
Cheryl knows all about the reality of meeting an insane bum bent upon destruction and mayhem.
WORKERS UNITE AGAINST SOCIALISM!
If their doctor reccommends surgery, they can't deny it. i call bullshit. they know if they went against a doctor's orders, they would be sued out the ying yang. it is what the doctor says. not what the insurance company says.
Think of it as an other way shortshanks has for tossing people under the bus. How dare you try and take $$$$$ away from Daley's Olympic Fund !
This is nothing new in Chicago. They've been doing it for years. 40 yrs ago it happened to me on an IOD.
Don't hold your breath waiting for your treatment.
This is a back door attempt to end the medical. As we all know you get 1 year to recover from an IOD, then you are disability pensioned out. So they delay the surgery and dump you onto the pension fund. With what may now may be permanent injuries that have no need to be.
What would happen if you got shot in the line of duty?? What if the city refused to pay? Or delayed?
May want to think twice about going to that "Man with a gun" or "Robbery in-progress". Tell the victim to call 311 to make a report.
JUST LIKE OBAMACARE
TRY VERY HARD TO SAVE AT LEAST A YEARS SALARY ON HAND IN CASE YOU GET SCREWED
Barack Hussein Obama must have now taken over the medical section. Get used to it, this is a sample of your new national health care socialist insurance.
http://www.officer.com/online/article.jsp?siteSection=1&id=48191
all of the medical abusers on this job will ruin it for everyone else--- if you do not hit the medical for one year you should get a bonus similar to the physical fitness bonus... if you are light duty you cannot be promoted--- it's incredible how many people become full duty when their name comes up on the list for promotion--- and after promotion they immediately suffer a reoccurence and are back light duty faking it all over again....
Anonymous said...
I think that J-Fed may be correct in his assessment of SCC.
SCC may be INSIGNIFICANT!
Bringing the truth to light seems to have little to no bearing in the City of Chicago or on the CPD. It's kinda of like standing outside, without an umbrella(CLOUT); and trying to stay dry in a torrential rain storm.
8/31/2009 11:01:00 PM
At least one these exempt/exceptions incidents or fuck-ups will have to pay the piper because, "It will look really bad on the blog and be too good too pass up by the media." This blog is like the police scanner. It's another source for media leeches.
INSIGNIFICANT? Not.
Every white shirt reads the blog to make sure they are not on it. Watch where you step, "boss". That big pile of shit might end up on the blog for all the other "bosses" snicker about what fuckin goof u are. By the way, u guys should be thankful you don't work ANY other job or you'd be rotating jobs and editing your resume every 6-10 months after your employers realized how ineffectual your management "style" turned out. That is if there were any managerial openings available ANYWHERE. Budget cuts, you understand. Enjoy ALL the entry level positions, which is what a police officer is, tactical or not, pay rate is the same. Since there is no fear of losing your high pay rate, as there is in the private sector, you do your bidding for the higher fuck-ups, in hopes of gold stars and gold leaves. You wouldn't have a Jody Weis to blame either.
Before u respond, YES, I AM JEALOUS!
I wish everyone had underlings, paid for by the GOOD citizens, to go out as pseudo BILL COLLECTORS for your Town, Village, City, County, State, and COLLECT $$$ and GENERATE "ACTIVITY" to make you look like your guys are listening to you and "bringing the Index up, we're down parkers and movers".
And yes, I am a Hater.
I hate that a Copper will get hurt and not get "TAKEN CARE OF". Remember that phrase? Does this Dept take care of it's working stiffs/unclouted in a meaningful way. I hate that it doesn't. Especially a copper DOING HIS JOB AS YOU HAVE ENCOURAGED HIM TO; "Don't be a dogass, if someone needs to be locked up, do what you need to do, we'll back you, within reason. Besides that Index is down also." If a bs lawsuit hits, you most certainly will not be "Taken Care Of". You will be in the Department Advocate newsletter. It is on the Dept Intranet and I "encourage" u to read the past issues on there before the take them down, so you can read about the biggest fuckups AND the many ways your buddy whiteshirts can knock the wind out of your sails.
If you want to Save The World, I "encourage" you, please do. The world could use a little saving.
It just ain't gonna happen in Chicago.
Just got my letter from Rush Hospital stating that they are having difficulty locating our healthcare provider-I was bit by some M!#@%F^cker in a courtroom...
I never went on IOD-just pay the bill for the AIDS test.
gotta love being CPD. I've got 12 tears on and have NEVER had an iod go smoothly. No one, even cops shot I know, have had an iod that didn't result in bill collectors calling. Instead of getting the iod issues smoothed out to hear it's getting worse is a slap in the face to say the least. F%ck daley, burke and the finance comshitty.
Ah, fellow tac officers, one of the best things about this job is the unexpected turns the day can take when you think you've got it all planned out. Take today for an example. My Sgt. called me into his office before the tour to tell me that I wouldn't be joining my fellow tac officers in 011 or 15 tonight. (My Sgt. is a real cool dude. He's got tattoos all over his body. He even has a tramp stamp above his buttocks like a lot of strippers I've seen in Stone Park.) Instead, I was to report to Area 3 and sign out a rusty old police plow, to go do patrol in district 020. When I asked him the reasoning behind this highly irregular tactical move, he became annoyed, stating, "Don't worry about it. You're being paid. Just go."
Not being one to question a supervisor for fear of losing my tac spot, I went to Area 3 like I was told. Despite the brown stains on the seat, and the empty condom wrappers strewn about, the plow was a pretty sweet ride. The breaks even worked! Not to sound arrogant, but the old Summerdale neighborhood was pretty boring. Really not deserving of an officer of my expertice. The only excitement came when this Jamaican guy stole this old lady's purse. I chased the perp down an alleyway until he spun around and pulled a machete on me. I'm no coward, so I walked away. I only shoot perps that carry guns. You've got to be a real pussy to shoot someone with a machete. I kind of felt bad for the old lady, but it was mostly her fault. She shouldn't be walking around in the afternoon anyway. The highlight of my tour was when I started using the CPD plow to go garbage canning in the alleys. I had to beat feet when the breaks went out and I crashed into this mental house, and all of these lunatics poured out of it.
Most of them were wearing Chicago Olympic T-shirts.
I couldn't wait when I got home to tell all of this to my wife. She wasn't home though. However, she did leave me a letter addressed "Dear Ultimate Warrior." I'll open it and read it after I'm done watching Cobra with Sylvester Stallone on my 30 inch t.v. Still, our 675,000 dollar two bedroom condo in Pilsen seems strangely empty for some reason....... Anyway, enough about me. All you guys on Tac and that are undercover, stay safe out there.
well the reason is because some officers are gonna get hit pretty soon since there is an internal investigation going on in area 3. it seems that a few officers may have faked some injuries on a "foot chase" and it may not have been completly true. the supposed chase never went over the air and when they supposedly put the time on the iod form gps found these guys to be 40 blocks from where the "foot chase" even took place. in fact, after checking the gps all together, the officers in question never even came within miles of the spot where they got into this chase at all night long. hhmmmmm, I wonder why it got changed. once again, a few bad apples ruin the good stuff for us all. if your gonna get hurt at sunday softball just go on the medical and dont abuse the system morons. now we all have to pay. and by the way, word out is that the feds are now looking at these guys for fraud considering one guy had several surgeries, therapy and almost a year off the job and collected on the taxes for the iod... and the doctor even said the injury that was sustained to the officer in no way could have been caused by how the officer said it happened. smile, youve just been indicted...STUPID!!!!! insurance is insurance... if you get hurt off the job your still gonna get covered.. just going iod so you can collect on the tax break is stupid... if your so worried about getting money, just sign up for that supplementary insurance that pays you when your hurt on or off the job.
Daley is betting on Obamas health care plan going through so he can pull our medical out from under us and force us into the public option or just provide the cheapest insurance possible to cover his contract obligation. That way the govenment public option may look more attractive and we'll drop the Citys insurance on our own. Daleys an asshole and loosing his mind, but he's not stupid when it comes to screwing others to get his own way and not look like the bad guy or be able to pass the blame. Even if it's a violation of our contract the impending lawsuits would take years and Daley would have more cash available for the Olympics before any settlement was reached. Look at how he took care of Meigs. A theif in the night. He's trying to save where ever he can so going to a "cost cutting" insurance plan makes sense for his Olympic dreams. The clock is ticking for the bid winner and Obama is set to make some speech to the IOC in the coming weeks to push for Chicago. The ship has sunk. Now it's a matter of when it will hit the ocean floor.
South Side Copper
If true this is outrageous. The ultimate slap in the face and a call to DO NOTHING. We are out there every day chasing people, fighting with people who resist, going lights and siren to bull shit in progress jobs risking accident and injury. To give us a hard time about treatment for IOD is crazy. More than the lack of contract this will tell everyone to just slow down and avoid situations where you can get hurt.
Heard of officer with iod (chase and fight with offender) who needed surgery recommended by doctor who department referred. Medical section said not until the city council approves, which could take at least a month. Officer was in alot of pain.
WTF?? This f-n mayor and the aldershits are now medically qualified to determine whether or not an officer injured in the line of duty requires surgery? I guess why not, they make every other decision for us. We are in China.
It sounds like socialized medicine has come to the Chicago Police Dept.
DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT BUST YOUR ASS FOR THE DEPARTMENT!!!!!!!!
I was injured several years back and IOD. I waited 3 days for the medical section to call me with a referal. I finally called my doctor becasue the pain I was in I could no longer stand. Fearing a possible blood clot in my leg my doctor advised me to go to the emergency room. A now high ranking boss who was then a captain had me medical checked when I called the front desk to say I was leaving to go to the hospital. I was in the emergency room when my daughter called me stating a Sgt was at my front door wanting to know where I was.
When I told him the story over the phone in the ER he apologized and left.
Im sorry to say this. But we have only ourselves to blame. We have let this go to crap and we now have to fix it. But we dont stand together!
The problem with "injuries on duty" is compounded by the fraud associated with many of these claims. We all are aware that many of these claims are associated with malingering police officers who want to be paid for doing nothing.
Us working police officers are being punished for the claims of non-working police officers.
I hope the City cracks down on the goofs!
I had a collection agency calling me for IOD bills. I sent a large package of all the bills to the mayor demanding payment. I never heard another thing about those bills. Why the hell did it have to get to that? That was under the old FOP regime and it was Ron Shogren refused to file a grievance and Shogren who told me if I didn't like how he was handling the IOD beefs on the FOP end that I could write a letter to the Mayor.
I did. It was more that a letter, it was a large bundle of bills ad a demand for payment letter. I never forgot that jerk and I worked hard to defeat Shogren and his cohorts.
It galls me that Shogren still is on the FOP dole as a retiree trustee. He never did shit for me except help cause me to lose sleep over IOD bills by refusing to help to get them paid.
another great job for the FOP.they will take care of ot just like they helped the BIS program.oh wait we are still waiting.right cooter
this is happening on the cfd also.
A number of years ago, I slipped on the ice and fell at work injuring my back. I was alone when it happened and I didn't want to middle some other copper with a witness statement that was a lie, so the IOD went in without one. What followed was a nightmare!
Stuff went okay, at first, referring me to a back specialist. Then word came down from the CITY COUNCIL'S FINANCE COMMITTEE that I was to be given no further referrals. This was after I was in need of a Spinal Epidural procedure and was living on Vicodin and Vioxx for weeks! The poorly trained monkeys at the Medical Section could only say "Duh, I dunno" when I asked what do I do now? I called to speak to the Director of the Med. Sec. and she told me that if I was in pain, (I was!), SHE would go ahead and have the subsequent epidural's done and worry about who pays for them later.
The union finally advised me to file a CR on the Medical Section, which I did. A few days later, they called me to kiss and make up, and everything went smoothly after that. It was all about the lack of a witness statement. There is supposed to be one, so when they didn't see it, the system went nuts.
If their doctor reccommends surgery, they can't deny it. i call bullshit. they know if they went against a doctor's orders, they would be sued out the ying yang. it is what the doctor says. not what the insurance company says.
Coventry is kicking our asses on the CFD. Many can't get rehab paid for or surgeries they must have to get back to get back to work. Perhaps the idea is to force these guys off, give them a smaller pension, or in some cases no pension (depending on the time they have on), but an annuity, and hire a guy that will make much less and save the city money in both cases. My $.02 .
Anonymous said...
Who was the young police officer who passed away last night? Although they are saying natural they don't know the cause yet.
9/01/2009 12:12:00 AM
If you were cpd you could find out easily,now go away TROLL!
Lets get this straight,eddie burke is head of finanance committee,and he approves all iod and mri claims,but never does it without a fight! Marky D says burke is a "friend of cpd" but burke never helps us,like talking out about a contract! "Can you see me now"!
"THE CITY OF CHICAGO WILL BE OUT OF THE INSURANCE BUSINESS BY THE YEAR 2013"
Ultimate Tactical Warrior
Nice Satire!
"I chased the perp down an alleyway until he spun around and pulled a machete on me."
1. You're not from Chicago.
2. Machete? In 20? wrong district?
3. Posting on a thread dealing with a topic that is serious to every real police officer in Chicago so you can get some sort of attention- bizarre and sick.
Perhaps you should be living in the mental house?
if these guys lied, on this iod thing, (I hope they didn't) bend over and smile. Jodi loves you!
" Anonymous said...
DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT BUST YOUR ASS FOR THE DEPARTMENT!!"
Finally someone with a brain has spoken!
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I filed a grievance in the fall of '08 on a denied IOD. I was told a few months later that the actual grievance hearing will be in the spring of '10.
The FOP says there is a huge backlog of the exact type of grievences that I had filed. Why can't these all be done a few at a time?
In the meantime the FOP told me to pay the bill (over $2,000) and I "should" get the money back.
I paid the bills, I have a great FICO rating to protect. It cost me over 2 grand to go to work that day, thanks a lot to the FOP.
It's Sept. 1st YIPPEE YAHOO, 26 months of retro so far. Enjoy your retro checks, sincerely Bill Nolan.
This sucks. I incurred an IOD. Went to the ER immediately and then went to an orthopedic surgeon recommended by the medical section within just a few days. The surgeon told me that I needed surgery and that it should not wait. I was told this on a Monday and he wanted to do the surgery on Friday. It took two weeks of daily phone calls to the medical section before the surgery was approved, even after telling them that this was a time sensitive matter. I was told that Coventry was delaying the whole process. The surgeons office told me that this was the worst preapproval process that they have ever experienced. Something needs to be done. How could they afford to have so many people sitting around waiting.
I'm not saying coppers should lay down and not do anything but please slow down and think. Two 10-1's come to mind. One in which one of my best friends was killed, the other in which fortunately only the bad guy was injured (think Swiss cheese). The common denominator for these two 10-1's? Guys who watched to much TV, NASCAR whatever and thought they had superior driving skills mixed with driving cars maintained(?) by the Shitty of Shitcago. The result was more wrecked cars and coppers off IOD. Luckily the PO's were OK and returned to work shortly. Please, for your sake, that of your loved ones and those of us still driving around with that fucking CAPS logo on the door, take it easy on the accelerator pedal.
I never went on IOD-just pay the bill for the AIDS test.
And there is were you went wrong. Can I assume you at least filled out the IOD form? You must have if you expect them to pay for the AIDS test.
Shut up you whimp! Be a WARRIOR!
Ultimate Tactical Worrior,
You sir are an idiot!!!!
IOD has gone automated and is being handled via a private contractor. Supervisors had to take an online class on how to file an IOD electronically. If this company is actually denying IOD's my advice would be to make sure you see your personal doctor as soon as possible after injuring yourself at work. Also if you are immediately hospitalized due to an IOD, call your insurance and get an emergency authorization from them just in case. I am not a medical benefit expert, and am not even sure they will accept, but it cannot hurt to try. Just to cover your ass.
However, she did leave me a letter addressed "Dear Ultimate Warrior." I'll open it and read it after I'm done watching Cobra with Sylvester Stallone on my 30 inch t.v.
Too fucking funny!And true! I've been in districts where the tact teams wouldn't give you the time of day. And then, just by the grace of God, I just happened to be in the locker room when two of our "finest" tact officers walked in, bitching and moaning due to the fact that they just were dumped from the team. Now they would have to put on that blue clown suit that had been gathering dust for many years and become one of the "ordinary" police.
Oh the horror!
since i retired (within the last year) I haven't had any medical payments approved by Encompass...yet they raised my medical premiums $40 a month...for what? they dont pay anything for me...where is the money going? as if i didnt know! better off paying medical bills by myself, forget the insurance, or rather encompass!!! glad i left anyway..
If their doctor reccommends surgery, they can't deny it. i call bullshit.
Unless the policy has changed, any recommendation of surgery, even if it's for an IOD, gets an automatic referral for a second opinion.
Bitch all you want but when you are IOD, you are on the city's dime and they call the shots.
If you try and use your BC/BS insurance for a work related injury, you are commiting insurance fraud. Many years ago I had this problem, and with no help from the union, I had a lawyer friend contact somebody and it was taken care of. Be careful, you could loose your job for fraud.
Also, the old timers will remember. All insurance claims go thru Ald Burke, and back in the days, if you wanted 75% disability, you had to go thru Anne Burke to get the results you wanted.
Heard of officer with iod (chase and fight with offender) who needed surgery recommended by doctor who department referred. Medical section said not until the city council approves, which could take at least a month. Officer was in alot of pain.
I call bullshit. Just another urban legend. The most that would happen would be the copper would be sent for a second opinion. That in itself may seem like putting the P.O. through unnecessary pain and suffering but when it comes to a surgery you want to make sure that it will correct the problem and not put the patient through an unnecessary procedure only to find out that the first doctor was wrong.
fire and streets and sans have coventry... AND THEY HATE IT!!! Was in PT with a couple guys going through coventry and they deny shit just to deny it... they make it a hassle to go IOD as a deterrence! The doctors are terrible and only speak a bit of english! They rush you back to work while you are still injured! It is terrible! Un fucking believeable! I felt blessed that I was injured under the old way after hearing their stories! And now we have coventry??? good luck to any future IODs!
So oprha is more importabt to this city then the police who protect it?
I love how michigan ave will be shut down during the afternoon an evening rush hour for a taping of her show yet we are shoved behind soldier field at 730 in the morning for the st jude parade.
And when we went down michigan it was also at 730 in the morning on a sunday.
What the fuck this city really hates the police.
What will also be funny is the amount of police power diverted for her little party.
a few years back I had my nose broke in a fight with a mental, cartilage seperated from bone. went to ER to have it move back in place but it was determined I would need surgery to fix it. went to the med section and waited 19 days for them to approve surgery, they "wanted to make sure this was an actual IOD". so in the long run their delay gave me almost 3 extra weeks of a tax rebate!
was injured april 2008, had to do physical therapy, and now i'm still getting the bills for some unknown reason!!!! the city still hasn't paid all of them, but they have paid about half.
FOP NEEDS A COMPLETE OVERHAUL IN LEADERSHIP. TIME TO THINK OUT OF THE BOX!! VOTE SOMEONE IN WHO WILL WORK FOR THE MEMBERSHIP AND NOT THEMSELVES. SELL THE BUILDING, DOWNSIZE THE BOARD AND LIMIT THE EXECUTIVE BOARD TO ONLY ONE VICE PRESIDENT. WHY DO WE NEED ALL THOSE BOARD MEMBERS AND SUCH A LARGE BUILDING, FOR WHAT. YOU THINK SIZE MATTERS? FUCK NO, THE SMALLER, THE BETTER IN GETTING THE JOB DONE.
It's true I'm IOD and just got my new medical id from Coventry. This is to cover meds. It took almost 21/2 months to get surgery after the Emer room Dr. informed me that I needed to surgery. My fukn arm may be fuked up permanently.
I read today that it is estimated that as high as 50% of the population could catch the swine flu this winter including 30,000 to 90,000 deaths. As short as we are of cops what will happen if half the manpower went down sick with this flu? What steps will the City, not our union take to protect us who will be in contact with the public?
Hey SCC-
Any chance you could put a morale boosting feature in the side bar of the website? I think we could really use a countdown clock to the end of j-fed's contract...
Check this out:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090814/hl_nm/us_usa_healthcare_mexico_4;_ylt=As2REli2fa_UsTY2wqxfoAV0fNdF
Wonder if he's retired Chicago PD?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If their doctor reccommends surgery, they can't deny it. i call bullshit. they know if they went against a doctor's orders, they would be sued out the ying yang. it is what the doctor says. not what the insurance company says.
9/01/2009 12:43:00 AM
Hey, ASSHAT! IF the Dr reccomends surgery, you are correct, it's up to him. But THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE. THE ISSUE IS PAYMENT. If the dr reccomends surgery and the insurance co. deneis it, and thePO wont pay for it, then what, the dr will do it for free? Moreon.
I hate dealing with the folks at the medical section so much that I am putting off a second hand surgery until it is about to fall off....
Yet, this hasn't been proven to be true....maybe some of us, if not all of us should wait to find out if this is even credible before charging off spiting and shiting
Anonymous said...
DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT BUST YOUR ASS FOR THE DEPARTMENT!!!!!!!!
9/01/2009 06:47:00 AM
DO NOT BUST YOUR ASS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OR THE CITY! THERE IS NO LOYALTY IN RETURN FOR YOUR SERVICE.
NOBODY CARES ABOUT US. THE ONLY THING KEEPING ANY OF US IN THE WORK MODE IS A PERSONAL HONOR CODE, BUT WE MUST REALIZE THAT STAYING OUT OF THE SHIT AND PROTECTING OURSELVES IS NOT A VIOLATION OF ANY PERSONAL HONOR CODE THAT MANDATES GIVING THEM 8 FOR 8.
WE MUST STOP HITTING OURSELVES IN THE HEAD WITH A HAMMER, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE DOING BY PRODUCING ACTIVITY FOR THIS DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE WE ARE ONLY PUTTING OURSELVES IN JEOPARDY. DALEY, WEIS, the ALDERTHIEVES, the MEDIA AND MOST CIITIZENS DO NOT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT US AND OUR WELL BEING.
IF IT ISN'T ABOUT ENSURING THE SAFETY OF OUR OWN, OR ONE OF OUR OWN'S OWN, OR YOU AND YOURS OR A CITIZEN WHO IS IN TRUE NEED OF A HELPING HAND, FUCK IT. LET IT ALL IMPLODE.
Anonymous said...
all of the medical abusers on this job will ruin it for everyone else--- if you do not hit the medical for one year you should get a bonus similar to the physical fitness bonus... if you are light duty you cannot be promoted--- it's incredible how many people become full duty when their name comes up on the list for promotion--- and after promotion they immediately suffer a reoccurence and are back light duty faking it all over again....
9/01/2009 01:44:00 AM
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I agre that the men & women in the field should get a bonus if they stay off the medical rolls. But what about all the people behind a desk of working CAPS or other units or have a cush job that never really do any REAL POLICE work. They will be getting all the extra money. It would be to hard to equitable towards the real workers.
I couldn't wait when I got home to tell all of this to my wife. She wasn't home though. However, she did leave me a letter addressed "Dear Ultimate Warrior." I'll open it and read it after I'm done watching Cobra with Sylvester Stallone on my 30 inch t.v. Still, our 675,000 dollar two bedroom condo in Pilsen seems strangely empty for some reason....... Anyway, enough about me. All you guys on Tac and that are undercover, stay safe out there.
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Take it you've been locked up by Tact. officers. It's obvious to every cop that reads this that you are not one of us...blue shirt or not. So, please go find the Burger King employee blog and bitch about the fry cooks.
"WE DESERVE BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
9/01/2009 12:34:00 AM"
Only if we act.
Just bitch raggin' ain't never cut it for anyone.
"Anyway, enough about me. All you guys on Tac and that are undercover, stay safe out there.
9/01/2009 02:44:00 AM"
Dammit, dude, please tell me when we can catch your show on HBO, all this reading shit is hurting my brain.
Daley plans on dumping us ALL to obama care just wait and see.
"it seems that a few officers may have faked some injuries on a "foot chase" and it may not have been completly true. the supposed chase never went over the air and when they supposedly put the time on the iod form gps found these guys to be 40 blocks from where the "foot chase" even took place.
9/01/2009 02:56:00 AM"
Seems to me like this is positive proof that they were in a foot chase.
A 40+ block foot chase.
Heard of officer with iod (chase and fight with offender) who needed surgery recommended by doctor who department referred. Medical section said not until the city council approves, which could take at least a month. Officer was in alot of pain.
WTF?? This f-n mayor and the aldershits are now medically qualified to determine whether or not an officer injured in the line of duty requires surgery? I guess why not, they make every other decision for us. We are in China.
9/01/2009 05:13:00 AM
It happened to me about 5 years ago. I waited 3 months for the surgery to be approved by City Council, meanwhile I couldn't even lift my newborn out of the crib. I called the union and was told they couldn't do anything about it, had no way to speed it up. After the surgery I received collection notices for over a year from the hospital!
This is true. Call the Medical section and ask them. More are being denied then approved.
ultimate tactical warrior i hope we can hear more of your tales in the future. thats some good shit.
OT
Mayor Richard Daley today said closing a three-block stretch of Michigan Avenue for two days next week for the Oprah Winfrey show will be a great public relations boost for the city.
Daley said the talk show host will reimburse the city for the costs of the show, which will shut down Michigan Avenue between Ohio Street and Wacker Drive from 12:01 a.m. Monday, Labor Day, until 5 a.m. Wednesday
yeah like Obama paid for his celebration.
I guess Michigan avenue is good enough for Oprah but not for the memory of murdered police officers!!!
Daley, you are a bigger piece of shit than ever imagined.
Please go ahead and get the necessary surgery by YOUR chosen doctor! Use your private insurance and it will be worked out in the end. The city of Chicago has to cover your medical bills. They say they won't cover it to intimidate us but have no choice but to pay. I went ahead with back surgery that the city said they had not approved with the doctor I trusted because it was my back and my life and the city doesn't give a shit,we are just numbers. The city ultimately paid all hospital and doctor bills. The insurance company will go after them and any bills you do get in the mail give to your medical section. The city is always slow to pay but legally have no choice (I did not have a lawyer) I did have the union involved somewhat but basically was in too much pain to care and know the law. The medical section will say whatever they want to try and intimidate because they are just puppets who don't want to be on the street (or can't due to disability themselves) but are not sympathetic at all. F--- em and go ahead with your surgery and good luck to you! (If the doctor won't take your insurance-find another doctor -that just tells you he's one of the city's doctors.) Signed, CFD Retired(Duty Disabilty)
Sneed's Column:
September 1, 2009
Vrooom Doom: Sneed hears rumbles the city plans to put the brakes on a beloved city perk.
• Translation: Sneed is told city budget chief Gene Munin may tell cops and firefighters to park it!
• Further translation: Word is the city plans to stop the personal use of municipal cars by the Chicago Police and Fire departments.
• Stop shop: "For many years, both departments have been permitted to take their assigned vehicles home," said a top city source. "The use of such cars will now be strictly administered . . . and not treated like a perk."
• $$$$$: Is it true the approximately 400 city municipal vehicles cost the taxpayers millions yearly? Stay tuned.
David Axelrod the chief DemocRatic strategist in the USA cultivates the Anti-gun agenda by using a rogue Catholic priest formenting hatred and ill will towards the police and the US Constitution:
Sneed's Column:
Obamarama . . .
Back in town: White House political strategist David Axelrod and wife, Susan, hit the Gene Siskel Film Center Sunday night for a screening of the film "Radical Disciple: The Story of Father Pfleger" -- followed by a dinner at Petterino's eatery accompanied by a low-key Secret Service detail.
• Background: The film was Axelrod's baby. He began the documentary about the radical South Side Catholic priest eight years ago, before turning over the project to filmmaker Bob Hercules in order to focus on another project: President Obama.
WAKEUP PEOPLE, VOTE CONSERVATIVE!
SAVE AMERICA!
remember always treat people the way they treat you
da mayor gave us zero
return the favor
I got your back!
snicker
WARRIORS!!!!!!
this is true, just heard from another po who has been waiting over a week to see a Dr with a serious injury and no return calls from med section in 2 days
another new rule is unless u hit the medical with a cold or the flu you MUST have a Drs note to return to duty. Even if you are off only 1day. So any muscular or any other type injury that may require u to be off a day or 2 you have to get a note
SCC;
Nowhere else to post this. I heard that Michigan Ave. will be closed from Ohio to Wacker next week on the 9th and 10th. All for our mayor and Oprah to broadcast her show live on international TV to support the Olympics (and press the city council into voting for support which they are all against.) Deal a long time in the works but no one told the police.
wheres missy? wheres amber?
A dr friend of mine at st joes said this company has been in place for a while now and they refuse payment across the board. Makes me feel real supported.
To the coward at 1:11 am. Think twice about riding on man with gun or robberies? Grow a set. Really, do you honestly think that will solve anything? You knew the risks we might have to take when you signed up. Don't get me wrong, I am NOT a company guy, but I DO take pride in my work, I do it for me, for my money and my self satisfaction with the thought that maybe, just maybe, I might make this city a slightly better place for putting a piece of garbage in jail. de-policing doesn't work, too many of our fellow officers have done it for the last year and a half and the thugs have gotten more brazen with each passing week, de-police enough and they won't stop in their neighborhood and will be at your door sooner that you think. If you can't do the job, quit, or at least go work in lockup
Just another reason to do zero as in absolutely nothing!
I have for a fact, am proud that I have had no arrests, movers and very few parkers! I am also a part of the KMA club!
There is no way I'm going to get hurt and then have these bozo's say that my treatment is NOT necessary!
So fuck you Daley and J-fed!
IOD sucks ass. NEXT time you go to medical section bring an attorney and a certified court reporter.
Foot chase?!
Hold on, gotta stretch first & warm up!
well the reason is because some officers are gonna get hit pretty soon since there is an internal investigation going on in area 3. it seems that a few officers may have faked some injuries on a "foot chase" and it may not have been completly true. the supposed chase never went over the air and when they supposedly put the time on the iod form gps found these guys to be 40 blocks from where the "foot chase" even took place. in fact, after checking the gps all together, the officers in question never even came within miles of the spot where they got into this chase at all night long. hhmmmmm, I wonder why it got changed. once again, a few bad apples ruin the good stuff for us all. if your gonna get hurt at sunday softball just go on the medical and dont abuse the system morons. now we all have to pay. and by the way, word out is that the feds are now looking at these guys for fraud considering one guy had several surgeries, therapy and almost a year off the job and collected on the taxes for the iod... and the doctor even said the injury that was sustained to the officer in no way could have been caused by how the officer said it happened. smile, youve just been indicted...STUPID!!!!! insurance is insurance... if you get hurt off the job your still gonna get covered.. just going iod so you can collect on the tax break is stupid... if your so worried about getting money, just sign up for that supplementary insurance that pays you when your hurt on or off the job.
9/01/2009 02:56:00 AM
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Typical Department knee-jerk overreaction. Punish the wrongdoers. Leave the UNguilty alone.
Close to a year and Finance STILL hasn't paid my ER bill. It's just slightly over 1,000.00. But hey, make sure Burke gets his 24 hr body guards.
Isn't Coventry connected to some alderman?????
OFF TOPIC BUT INTERESTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vrooom Doom: Sneed hears rumbles the city plans to put the brakes on a beloved city perk.
• Translation: Sneed is told city budget chief Gene Munin may tell cops and firefighters to park it!
• Further translation: Word is the city plans to stop the personal use of municipal cars by the Chicago Police and Fire departments.
• Stop shop: "For many years, both departments have been permitted to take their assigned vehicles home," said a top city source. "The use of such cars will now be strictly administered . . . and not treated like a perk."
• $$$$$: Is it true the approximately 400 city municipal vehicles cost the taxpayers millions yearly? Stay tuned.
CAN THIS BE THE END OF MY TAKE HOME CAR????
If your in pain, go have the surgery and fight about it later. Don't jeopardize your health for these screwballs. If the City doctor says you need surgery, get it done....fight through the grievance process later.
These comments about "Obamacare" seem so mis-informed as to be both sad and laughable. The problem here is the PRIVATE insurance company the city has contracted out to, not any kind of government run health care. They're denying these claim to make more money: welcome to free enterprise in health care. This is just the police experiencing the kind of problem people in the private sector have been experiencing for a long time, which makes many want a program more like medicare (a GOVERNMENT program). Only in the right-wing echo chamber of many commentators on this site could this somehow be taken as some kind of indictment of government insurance. To those with a half-open mind, this complaint just shows the need for a public option in insurance.
No worries. Our "Medical Team" will fuck the City up like Sonny Corleone beat his brother-in-law in the Godfather. They always do. Believe it!
And morale keeps getting lower!
Good luck, CPD. Coventry has been f***ing CFD IOD for months. After CFD Medical says you have a valid injury and proceed w/surgery and/or physical therapy, Coventry steps in and says, no more, this is not duty related. Then when a members' layup time is almost over Coventry tells them to go to the pension board and file a duty disability. Local 2's answer to this - is they filed a suit against City and Coventry for going against our duty diaabilty per contract and now Local 2 is in the Discovery process with the City attorneys. Stay tuned for updates. I'm not CPD, but I am CFD. God save us all!!
all of the medical abusers on this job will ruin it for everyone else--- if you do not hit the medical for one year you should get a bonus similar to the physical fitness bonus... if you are light duty you cannot be promoted--- it's incredible how many people become full duty when their name comes up on the list for promotion--- and after promotion they immediately suffer a reoccurence and are back light duty faking it all over again....
SON, I HOPE YOU NEVER AGE BECAUSE THIS SORT OF THINKING IS WHAT IS GOING TO GET THE MEDICAL BENEFITS LOST. MEDICAL AND IOD ARE TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES ALTOGETHER. MEDICAL THE OFFICER PAYS HIS OWN BILLS, IOD THE CITY 'REPORTEDLY' PAYS ALL THE BILLS 100% - THERE IN LIES THE PROBLEM, ITS A COST SAVING ISSUE, NOT A HEALTH ISSUE.
THE INJURIES YOU SUSTAIN AT A YOUNG AGE ARE GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU IN LATER YEARS, DON'T BE SO ADAMANT ABOUT PEOPLE WHO USE THE MEDICAL, IT TOO IS A BENEFIT JUST LIKE YOUR UNIFORM ALLOWANCE, DUTY AVAILABILITY, FURLO'S AND TIME DUE.
YOU GONNA RETURN THEM TO THE CITY BECAUSE THEY'RE 'POOR', THEN DON'T BITCH ABOUT A CONTRACTUAL BENEFIT.
OT:
I am listening to WLS radio's healthcare town hall meeting.
All the panelists sound somewhat knowledgable about the issue and the problems, EXCEPT Congressman Danny Davis.
What a dumbfuck! The only state pay check this guy should be earning should be from walking behind a garbage truck!
How embarrassing. Why do the citizens of Illinois accept mediocrity?
We need to vote OUT of office ALL current sitting politicians. They are ALL part of the problem!
If you try and use your BC/BS insurance for a work related injury, you are commiting insurance fraud. Many years ago I had this problem, and with no help from the union, I had a lawyer friend contact somebody and it was taken care of. Be careful, you could loose your job for fraud.
Also, the old timers will remember. All insurance claims go thru Ald Burke, and back in the days, if you wanted 75% disability, you had to go thru Anne Burke to get the results you wanted.
9/01/2009 10:10:00 AM
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WHAT insurance fraud? Do you stay up late at night, thinking up this nonsense?
Injured is injured. Your insurance covers it, but you'll have to pay the co-pay and reach the minimums. Fight it out with the city for payment later.
The only way it's 'fraud' is if it never happened and you're not injured.
What, you're going to sit there with an injured arm and NOT have it repaired because some bureaucrat is playing fast and loose with your health and your future? Goof.
To the goof who supports the Public option" in the current health care debate- go to Canada. I have a friend who lives there and is currently in the 4th month of waiting for a new hip.
I bet you cannot wait to get a few years under your belt, retire and stand in a long line to get a number. After you get a number, then you see some admin person who may or may not let you see a real doctor. It will be just like the Post Office.
old retired guy
Since Oprah is televising from Michigan Ave next week, I propose we bring 100 or more signs there to let the Mayor know how unhappy we are without a contract.
Anonymous said...
Just another reason to do zero as in absolutely nothing!
I have for a fact, am proud that I have had no arrests, movers and very few parkers! I am also a part of the KMA club!
There is no way I'm going to get hurt and then have these bozo's say that my treatment is NOT necessary!
So fuck you Daley and J-fed!
9/01/2009 04:55:00 PM
Amen brother, KMA forever!
Take it you've been locked up by Tact. officers. It's obvious to every cop that reads this that you are not one of us...blue shirt or not. So, please go find the Burger King employee blog and bitch about the fry cooks.
9/01/2009 11:36:00 AM
And yet another example of our City's fine hiring policy...take the stick out of your ass, Einstein!
The Stuttering Prick said...
"THE CITY OF CHICAGO WILL BE OUT OF THE INSURANCE BUSINESS BY THE YEAR 2013"
9/01/2009 08:12:00 AM
And I will be out of the police officer business, I guarantee.
Anonymous said...
Check this out:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090814/hl_nm/us_usa_healthcare_mexico_4;_ylt=As2REli2fa_UsTY2wqxfoAV0fNdF
Wonder if he's retired Chicago PD?
9/01/2009 11:24:00 AM
"The very wealthy can afford whatever they want, the very poor get it through aid, but the working and the middle-class have to struggle to pay insurance," said Ritz, who worked as a police officer in Chicago for 28 years.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If their doctor reccommends surgery, they can't deny it. i call bullshit. they know if they went against a doctor's orders, they would be sued out the ying yang. it is what the doctor says. not what the insurance company says.
9/01/2009 12:43:00 AM
Hey, ASSHAT! IF the Dr reccomends surgery, you are correct, it's up to him. But THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE. THE ISSUE IS PAYMENT. If the dr reccomends surgery and the insurance co. deneis it, and thePO wont pay for it, then what, the dr will do it for free? Moreon
NO MORON,
THE ISSUE IS CONVENTRY IS DENYING IOD TREATMENTS CAUSING THE FOP TO FILE SUIT.
HOW DID YOU GET ON THE JOB IF YOU HAVE NO READING COMPREHENSION SKILLS??
does being on medical count against your time on the job
"ULTIMATE TACTICAL WARRIOR SAID ...
".... I kind of felt bad for the old lady, but it was mostly her fault. She shouldn't be walking around in the afternoon anyway....."
One debating the tenacity of this guy being an officer, only other PO's have this sense of humor.
Too FUNNY!!
"another new rule is unless u hit the medical with a cold or the flu you MUST have a Drs note to return to duty. Even if you are off only 1day. So any muscular or any other type injury that may require u to be off a day or 2 you have to get a note"
9/01/2009 03:28:00 PM
That is not a new rule. If you go on the medical for an ailment that would require a doctor's opinion to ensure you're completely recovered always necessitated a doctors note.
SO if you have cramps, muscle aches, dizziness, headaches you can honestly be covered by the flu
The common symptoms of the flu include:
* Fever (usually high)
* Headache
* Muscle aches
* Chills
* Extreme tiredness
* Dry cough
* Runny nose may also occur but is more common in children than adults
* Stomach symptoms, such as nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea, may also occur but are more common in children than adults
And who hasn't suffered from extreme tiredness. You must have had the FLU, and not something more serious caused by too much imbibing.
Nowhere else to post this. I heard that Michigan Ave. will be closed from Ohio to Wacker next week on the 9th and 10th. All for our mayor and Oprah to broadcast her show live on international TV to support the Olympics (and press the city council into voting for support which they are all against.) Deal a long time in the works but no one told the police.
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Great time for another protest with all the supervisors this time.
Gents, this should surprise no one. Remember, this is what the administation thinks of you. It has been going on for years.But it get's worse. Anybody remember when President Obama stated that even our military should pay for their injuries sustained on the battlefield? Yes he did. Even the libtards thought that was a bit much so he backed down.
About twenty years ago I was shot in the line of duty. I was off about a year and underwent 5-6 surgeries to get my body back to where it was before I was shot. During the time that I was off, I started receiving bills from the hospital demanding payment. I explained that it was a IOD injury and that the city would be paying the bills. They said they didn't care, the city was slow with payment and they wanted their money NOW. I told them where to go and refused to pay. They obtained my insurance information and billed BC/BS for everything. When I received notice that BC/BS was paying the bills, I immediately contaced them and told them not to pay. They thanked me. EVENTUALLY the city did pay the bills but not before I was threatened by both the hospital and the doctors with a collection agency which would ruin my credit. As an aside, I then found a clause in the policy of BC/BS that stated that if you find an error in your bill and you notify BC/BS which causes them to save money, you are entitled to 10% of the money you save them. Since I had at that point saved them about 500K, I filed a claim seeking my 10%. Of course they denied it and subsequently changed that policy.
"Every white shirt reads the blog to make sure they are not on it. Watch where you step, "boss". That big pile of shit might end up on the blog for all the other "bosses" snicker about what fuckin goof u are. By the way, u guys should be thankful you don't work ANY other job or you'd be rotating jobs and editing your resume every 6-10 months after your employers realized how ineffectual your management "style" turned out."
)))))))))))))))))
Well as a CPD supervisor I sometimes read the blog to analyze the people like YOU and sorry to say I am embarassed for you!
Half the reason I may have made supervisor is because my grammar and spelling is no where near as "goofed" as yours.
They need some of us, regardless of whether they read about us on the blog to EDIT your work. Guys like you that "think" they know best from answering beat car jobs, ought to be reading a book or trying to better themself as an officer and a man rather than a jagoff.
But no you would rather throw the preverbial WRENCH into the system rather than join the cause to better it.
By the way, "INEFFECTUAL" is that even a word? So lets listen to YOU.....the born leader that expects to be promoted VIA a TEST score. Brother pray for MERIT, you'll need it!
Bite ME!
Signed
A SGT. that will still let you DUCK early based on the fact I am fair to everyone, EVEN YOU!
Future Candidate said...
FOP NEEDS A COMPLETE OVERHAUL IN LEADERSHIP. TIME TO THINK OUT OF THE BOX!! VOTE SOMEONE IN WHO WILL WORK FOR THE MEMBERSHIP AND NOT THEMSELVES. SELL THE BUILDING, DOWNSIZE THE BOARD AND LIMIT THE EXECUTIVE BOARD TO ONLY ONE VICE PRESIDENT. WHY DO WE NEED ALL THOSE BOARD MEMBERS AND SUCH A LARGE BUILDING, FOR WHAT. YOU THINK SIZE MATTERS? FUCK NO, THE SMALLER, THE BETTER IN GETTING THE JOB DONE.
9/01/2009 10:30:00 AM
Finally, someone with balls..Get rid of the salaries too. FOP should only get paid what their rank is on the dept. nothing more..
What's with all these posts on Obamacare and socialism? Kinda amusing to hear it from people who actually are in a "socialist" profession -- the police.
This Coventry is a PRIVATE company.. for those who are slow, it's not a public/government entity. PRIVATE.
If you want better health care, then PAY more. Don't expect socialism (i.e. the government) to give you a handout.
another new rule is unless u hit the medical with a cold or the flu you MUST have a Drs note to return to duty. Even if you are off only 1day. So any muscular or any other type injury that may require u to be off a day or 2 you have to get a note
9/01/2009 03:28:00 PM
Not exactly accurate. It has been for quite some time now that there is a list of certain illnesses or diseases that require a doctors note to return to duty no matter how many days you are on medical. Mostly contagious type diseases.
Heard of officer with iod (chase and fight with offender) who needed surgery recommended by doctor who department referred. Medical section said not until the city council approves, which could take at least a month. Officer was in alot of pain.
I call bullshit. Just another urban legend. The most that would happen would be the copper would be sent for a second opinion. That in itself may seem like putting the P.O. through unnecessary pain and suffering but when it comes to a surgery you want to make sure that it will correct the problem and not put the patient through an unnecessary procedure only to find out that the first doctor was wrong.
9/01/2009 10:14:00 AM
This is not BS. Go ask the kid in 001 right now who was the post of SCC a month ago for the chase he was in. And thank you to the post who said it happened to him 5 years ago.
Again, its not the medical section denying the department referred doctor's recommendation to do the surgery nor his ability. The problem is the city council feels the needs to decide whether or not the city should pay for the surgery. The city council holds our health in their hands for no valid reason other than 'because they can.'
Hey, ASSHAT! IF the Dr reccomends surgery, you are correct, it's up to him. But THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE. THE ISSUE IS PAYMENT. If the dr reccomends surgery and the insurance co. deneis it, and thePO wont pay for it, then what, the dr will do it for free? Moreon.
first off, we are talking IOD that means a city doctor approves the surgery. the city's insurance company cannot deny it. they will be sued. i was on IOD once. i went to my doctor and the city doctor. my doctor suggested a certain treatment, and the city sent me to the specialist on the reccomendatiob of my doctor. they paid for it. you may get the bills because they do not pay on time. you give them to the medical section and they take care of it. the P.O. does not pay for anything.
also often you get bills because the city is haggling the bill down and the hospitals try to get you for the difference.
trust me. i hate the medical section with a passion. i had a city doctor fuck me up good.
lastly, what's a moreon? moron.
I ALWAYS LOVE THE BOZOS WHO BRAG THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ON THE MEDICAL FOR 12 YEARS. TWO WORDS,
SUCKHOLE CHUMPS!!
Scenario: Our disgusting obese Mayor attends a conference in another city hypothetically entitled "how to screw your constituents, enrich your friends, and yet still get reelected" During the informal cocktail imbibing session preceding one of the guest speaker's talks our fat fuck mayor decides to take a whiz in the john. Due in part to his specific ethnic heritage, our mayor while attempting to urinate, has trouble finding his dick, and in a bout of scotch fueled frustration, slips on the urine soaked floor, crushing his hip ( a bone already weakened by his obese and unathletic body) His not so honorable is rushed to the nearest ER by a convoy of out of grade, primarily celtic, members of his security detail. The ER docs advise immediate surgery. Does he have to get Coventry's approval?
Way off topic..... I watched a video of 30 college students, telling of the most interesting day of there lives. (Yuppie Training) Speech class, to be specific. 12 of them cited the most interesting day of their lives, was being in contact with the police. It was probably more than 12, but I couldn't keep count... For drinking, for tagging, a party, a fight....... Im sure it was a few more.
I can't tell you the point of the story..... Just I thought it was strange?? Deep thoughts.... by jack handy...........
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey, ASSHAT! IF the Dr reccomends surgery, you are correct, it's up to him. But THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE. THE ISSUE IS PAYMENT. If the dr reccomends surgery and the insurance co. deneis it, and thePO wont pay for it, then what, the dr will do it for free? Moreon.
first off, we are talking IOD that means a city doctor approves the surgery. the city's insurance company cannot deny it. they will be sued. i was on IOD once. i went to my doctor and the city doctor. my doctor suggested a certain treatment, and the city sent me to the specialist on the reccomendatiob of my doctor. they paid for it. you may get the bills because they do not pay on time. you give them to the medical section and they take care of it. the P.O. does not pay for anything.
also often you get bills because the city is haggling the bill down and the hospitals try to get you for the difference.
trust me. i hate the medical section with a passion. i had a city doctor fuck me up good.
lastly, what's a moreon? moron.
9/01/2009 11:14:00 PM
They ARE set up for a suit by the FOP BECAUSE it was denied by coventry... moreon. lol.
"Nowhere else to post this. I heard that Michigan Ave. will be closed from Ohio to Wacker next week on the 9th and 10th. All for our mayor and Oprah to broadcast her show live on international TV to support the Olympics (and press the city council into voting for support which they are all against.) Deal a long time in the works but no one told the police.
9/01/2009 03:36:00 PM"
Like I posted in the relevant thread, wouldn't this be the perfect time and place for some heavy duty informational picketing?
Hey, ASSHAT! IF the Dr reccomends surgery, you are correct, it's up to him. But THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE. THE ISSUE IS PAYMENT. If the dr reccomends surgery and the insurance co. deneis it, and thePO wont pay for it, then what, the dr will do it for free? Moreon
NO MORON,
THE ISSUE IS CONVENTRY IS DENYING IOD TREATMENTS CAUSING THE FOP TO FILE SUIT.
HOW DID YOU GET ON THE JOB IF YOU HAVE NO READING COMPREHENSION SKILLS??
9/01/2009 08:29:00 PM
reading comprehension skills? Do YOU not comprehend that payment is denied by Coventry.. AN INSURANCE COMPANY?!?! Its all one and the same! And we both know that reading, much less comprehension, is not required for this job. You simply need to show up for work most of the time and not get lost...
"What's with all these posts on Obamacare and socialism? Kinda amusing to hear it from people who actually are in a "socialist" profession -- the police.
This Coventry is a PRIVATE company.. for those who are slow, it's not a public/government entity. PRIVATE.
If you want better health care, then PAY more. Don't expect socialism (i.e. the government) to give you a handout.
9/01/2009 10:49:00 PM"
A private company hand picked by our public officials, for the express purpose of providing an earned benefit, earned by public safety employees, serving the public's interests and paid for by the taxpaying public whose interests are being served.
As for the enforcement of laws, the protection from fires and the providing of publicly financed emergency medical services, if you really believe that these are socialistic in nature, and are opposed to 'socialisms', you are free to not request police services, not call on the CFD to extinguish fires and not request a city ambulance when you are in need of emergency medical services.
The only thing you are not free to do is to not pay the taxes that are used to finance the above.
Assuming that you pay taxes.
By the way, "INEFFECTUAL" is that even a word? So lets listen to YOU.....the born leader that expects to be promoted VIA a TEST score. Brother pray for MERIT, you'll need it!
YES, ACTUALLY IT IS.
If you try and use your BC/BS insurance for a work related injury, you are commiting insurance fraud. Many years ago I had this problem, and with no help from the union, I had a lawyer friend contact somebody and it was taken care of. Be careful, you could loose your job for fraud.
Also, the old timers will remember. All insurance claims go thru Ald Burke, and back in the days, if you wanted 75% disability, you had to go thru Anne Burke to get the results you wanted.
9/01/2009 10:10:00 AM
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WHAT insurance fraud? Do you stay up late at night, thinking up this nonsense?
Injured is injured. Your insurance covers it, but you'll have to pay the co-pay and reach the minimums. Fight it out with the city for payment later.
The only way it's 'fraud' is if it never happened and you're not injured.
What, you're going to sit there with an injured arm and NOT have it repaired because some bureaucrat is playing fast and loose with your health and your future? Goof.
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Holy moly, there can't be this many idiots on the job.
Poster number one is right.
You think BC/BS will sympathize with you and listen to your saga of why you filed a city IOD claim with them, but you lied and called it a medical claim? Yeah, and keep talking telling them that you knew you shouldn't have done it, but you were in pain, and the city can just reimburse BC/BS. That's called insurance fraud, dufus.
On duty injuries and off duty medical injuries are two separate and distinct incidents and are always handled as such. The city will go after you for not following department procedure and criminally for filing a false insurance report.
Now apologize, goof.
But no you would rather throw the preverbial WRENCH into the system rather than join the cause to better it.
By the way, "INEFFECTUAL" is that even a word? So lets listen to YOU.....the born leader that expects to be promoted VIA a TEST score. Brother pray for MERIT, you'll need it!
Bite ME!
Signed
A SGT. that will still let you DUCK early based on the fact I am fair to everyone, EVEN YOU!
9/01/2009 10:39:00 PM
It's proverbial not preverbial you silly goose.
Sincerely a blue shirt
P.S. GFY
Anonymous said...
Since Oprah is televising from Michigan Ave next week, I propose we bring 100 or more signs there to let the Mayor know how unhappy we are without a contract.
9/01/2009 08:10:00 PM
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That is a VERY good idea.
TO: 04:03 AM
I was fully aware of the risks involved in this job when I signed up and was reminded of them all too painfully when several friends and colleagues paid the ultimate sacrifice.
I do respect your diligence and appreciate it.
While I knew and accepted the risks when I came on the job, there was an implied mutual agreement that if I were to go into harm's way and I were to be injured, that I would receive prompt, competent medical treatment to minimize long term effects. That I would not be subjected to dunning by bill collectors for bills that the city is responsible for. That I would not have to be aggravated calling the city, making photocopies on my time and at my expense to get the F-N bills paid.
And now reports that officers are sitting at home, suffering with injuries, the long term effects of which are being made worse by the lack of prompt treatment, is disgusting.
Their physical and financial health is being jeopardized by a city that couldn't care less about you.
Remember when Obama said he wanted soldiers going into combat to buy their own health insurance? Where do you think that idea came from? Sounds like this is what the city is trying to do.
So what you are doing out there is commendable. You are doing it for yourself. Fine.
But realize that you are doing BY yourself. You are out there all alone financially. And legally.
Until the city decides to support the police, a prudent course of action is to be very careful.
All the panelists sound somewhat knowledgable about the issue and the problems, EXCEPT Congressman Danny Davis.
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9/01/2009 08:06:00 PM
True enough. This gibbering idiot is another dirty Communist like Green Jobs czar Van Jones. Obama is a commie.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What's with all these posts on Obamacare and socialism? Kinda amusing to hear it from people who actually are in a "socialist" profession -- the police.
This Coventry is a PRIVATE company.. for those who are slow, it's not a public/government entity. PRIVATE.
If you want better health care, then PAY more. Don't expect socialism (i.e. the government) to give you a handout.
9/01/2009 10:49:00 PM
Dear ASSHOLE, it's not about the health care that the country is looking for, it's about the health care that we, as police officers, expect if and when we get hurt protecting the good people and the rest of the liberal, self entitled folk like you, that reside in our city. We are not looking for anything special, we just want to be taken care of when we get injured protecting your liberal ass...you liberal fuckstick prick !!!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
does being on medical count against your time on the job
9/01/2009 08:33:00 PM
MIND YOUR BUSINESS TROLL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOW DID YOU GET ON THE JOB IF YOU HAVE NO READING COMPREHENSION SKILLS??
9/01/2009 08:29:00 PM
When I joined in '92 it wasn't required.
I never went on IOD-just pay the bill for the AIDS test.
And there is were you went wrong. Can I assume you at least filled out the IOD form? You must have if you expect them to pay for the AIDS test.
I filled out the paper work, IOD, exposure, etc..Just repeating that Rush, a hospital that works w/us alot, does not know how to get paid. They cannot locate our insurance co. for workmens comp.
Sneed's Column:
September 1, 2009
Vrooom Doom: Sneed hears rumbles the city plans to put the brakes on a beloved city perk.
• Translation: Sneed is told city budget chief Gene Munin may tell cops and firefighters to park it!
• Further translation: Word is the city plans to stop the personal use of municipal cars by the Chicago Police and Fire departments.
• Stop shop: "For many years, both departments have been permitted to take their assigned vehicles home," said a top city source. "The use of such cars will now be strictly administered . . . and not treated like a perk."
• $$$$$: Is it true the approximately 400 city municipal vehicles cost the taxpayers millions yearly? Stay tuned.
9/01/2009 01:29:00 PM
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Hey SNEED, It's going to cost the city more in overtime with the car situation. They will be beggin us to take the cars back!
Anonymous said...
Da Mare must be waiting for Obama Care to handle IOD's too.
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No...Da Mare went with a PRIVATE COMPANY called COVENTRY...
That is NOT the Public Option President Obama is proposing.
It is still a PRIVATE INSURANCE company like you've ben clamoring for all along.
How does that medicine taste???
I bet you didn't notice the label on the bottle?? It reads KY and it ain't for Kentucky.
I ain't sayin' nuthin'...
I'm just sayin'.
Anonymous said...
JUST LIKE OBAMACARE
TRY VERY HARD TO SAVE AT LEAST A YEARS SALARY ON HAND IN CASE YOU GET SCREWED
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Can you comprehend what is read to you, since you OBVIOUSLY can't read on your own, or worse yet, refuse to read and learn on your own?
OBAMAcare is not ad WILL NOT DENY care or coverage. Whereas PRIVATE INSURANCE can and most likely WILL deny care and coverage. Think of Private Insurance as being someone with a Grocery Store or Restaurant...he don't have to serve you if he doesn't feel like it if they don't like the way you look. PUBLIC OPTION vs PRIVATE INSURANCE..or like Publc School vs Pivate School, but you get to keep your same Doctor.
Is that simple enough for you to understand?
I ain't sayin' nuthin'...
I'm just sayin'
Anonymous said...
Barack Hussein Obama must have now taken over the medical section. Get used to it, this is a sample of your new national health care socialist insurance.
9/01/2009 01:33:00 AM
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Another goof talking out the side of her HEMORRHOIDS..
COVENTRY is a PRIVATE INSURANCE company...not a PUBLIC OPTION...
Are you really that frigging stupid???
Be careful the next time you draw your weapon you don't shoot your big toe, Asshat, you might get denied coverage for being stupid.
I ain't sayin' nothin'...
I'm just sayin'
Anonymous said...
The problem with "injuries on duty" is compounded by the fraud associated with many of these claims. We all are aware that many of these claims are associated with malingering police officers who want to be paid for doing nothing.
Us working police officers are being punished for the claims of non-working police officers.
I hope the City cracks down on the goofs!
9/01/2009 07:07:00 AM
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There was a goof female from 014 who would go IOD for every single holiday. Fall down the last 2 stairs right at the front desk or slip and fall in the hallway like a MALL SLIP AND FALL INSURANCE FISHERMAN..you could set your clock to her antics, she was so predictable. Whatever happened to her?
Anonymous said...
"I chased the perp down an alleyway until he spun around and pulled a machete on me."
1. You're not from Chicago.
2. Machete? In 20? wrong district?
3. Posting on a thread dealing with a topic that is serious to every real police officer in Chicago so you can get some sort of attention- bizarre and sick.
Perhaps you should be living in the mental house?
9/01/2009 08:23:00 AM
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It's called SATIRE or SARCASM...
get a life, smile once in a while..or just go and get laid...JEEZUS H. CHRIST!!!!
I'd hate to have to ride with YOUR sorry ass for 8. WTF!!!
I ain't sayin' nothin'...
I'm just sayin'
Anonymous said...
"...The surgeons office told me that this was the worst preapproval process that they have ever experienced. Something needs to be done. How could they afford to have so many people sitting around waiting."
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This is PRIVATE INSURANCE...not OBAMA CARE...PRIVATE INSURANCE makes MONEY..that is how they can afford it.
WHAT insurance fraud? Do you stay up late at night, thinking up this nonsense?
Injured is injured. Your insurance covers it, but you'll have to pay the co-pay and reach the minimums. Fight it out with the city for payment later.
The only way it's 'fraud' is if it never happened and you're not injured.
What, you're going to sit there with an injured arm and NOT have it repaired because some bureaucrat is playing fast and loose with your health and your future? Goof.
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I do not know about the fraud issue. But I do know our insurance will deny your claims if they find out you are being treated for an IOD injury. I know I went through it. It was such a cluster*&^%*&.
i hate the medical section with a passion. i had a city doctor fuck me up good.
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Thats why you don't use the city's doctors. Find out which specialists are with the city and then find your own. It is your RIGHT to find a doctor that is working for you, not for the city's best interest.
I broke one of my enameled finger nails while I was working in the front office and I had to go on the medical while the nail grew back!
Why is the Medical Section denying my bills to go to my manicurist to get the nail repaired?
Anonymous said...
WHAT insurance fraud? Do you stay up late at night, thinking up this nonsense?
Injured is injured. Your insurance covers it, but you'll have to pay the co-pay and reach the minimums. Fight it out with the city for payment later.
The only way it's 'fraud' is if it never happened and you're not injured.
What, you're going to sit there with an injured arm and NOT have it repaired because some bureaucrat is playing fast and loose with your health and your future? Goof.
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I do not know about the fraud issue. But I do know our insurance will deny your claims if they find out you are being treated for an IOD injury. I know I went through it. It was such a cluster*&^%*&.
9/02/2009 06:37:00 AM
To get our insurance to cover something that was declared an on duty injury requires one to declare that it did not occur at one's workplace. Once you declare that it is job related you are at the mercy of the City and Burke's Finance Committee.
You know Burke, he is the short Irish fuck that walks among police officers at police funerals with that phony baloney alderman's badge in a leather holder around his neck pretending to be one of us.
Play Danny Boy again for us Ed, just one more time, oh it brings a tear to me eye.
Anonymous said...
Remember when Obama said he wanted soldiers going into combat to buy their own health insurance? Where do you think that idea came from? Sounds like this is what the city is trying to do.
9/02/2009 01:09:00 AM
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Let me tell you my story, so you will see whats really happening.
I am a Marine.
I incurred an injury to my heart during a deployment. This injury, while major, is something that insurance companies / health care providers will cover.
However, since I have completed my active duty, I have moved into the private sector and have private health care coverage.
I have, twice, asked my insurance to assist covering some of the medical costs that I incur due to this injury. However, even though it is a common injury that happens in the civilian world, they have denied it ONLY on the premise that it occured while I was deployed.
The VA is taking care of what needs taking care of
However, what Obama is doing is bringing to the light to ills of our Health Care industry.
He is showing the big ugly side of them turning down COMMONLY covered issues, simply so they dont have to pay.
A SGT. that will still let you DUCK early based on the fact I am fair to everyone, EVEN YOU!
9/01/2009 10:39:00 PM
It's proverbial not preverbial you silly goose.
Sincerely a blue shirt
P.S. GFY
HAHAHA!! YOU GUYS ARE FUNNY, LOVE CAPT. $$$
Can someone tell me what is so hard about the following:
The public option will be exactly like a private insurance plan. However, the government will charge a LOW premium with LOW prices for drugs. Premiums will go to paying for your medical procedures if you buy the government plan. UNLIKE the private plans to date, the government plan will not have restrictions for pre-existing conditions; will not drop you for any reason; and the government will negotiate to get you the lowest prices for your drugs. If you belong to the government plan, NOT ONE PENNY of your premiums will go to advertising or failed Research and Development (R&D) or to exorbitant CEO salaries. That's why the government plan will be good for low income participants, those who lose their jobs, and the poor.
To 09/02/2009 05:45 AM
If you think a public, government plan cannot deny coverage, I suggest you check back with everyone once you are on Medicare.
To the coward at 1:11 am. Think twice about riding on man with gun or robberies? Grow a set. Really, do you honestly think that will solve anything? You knew the risks we might have to take when you signed up. Don't get me wrong, I am NOT a company guy, but I DO take pride in my work, I do it for me, for my money and my self satisfaction with the thought that maybe, just maybe, I might make this city a slightly better place for putting a piece of garbage in jail. de-policing doesn't work, too many of our fellow officers have done it for the last year and a half and the thugs have gotten more brazen with each passing week, de-police enough and they won't stop in their neighborhood and will be at your door sooner that you think. If you can't do the job, quit, or at least go work in lockup
9/01/2009 04:03:00 PM
You are definitely speaking for yourself on this issue asshole
...Anonymous said...
"...The surgeons office told me that this was the worst preapproval process that they have ever experienced...
This is deliberate, to make you miserable, and suffer is part of the plan.
Remember this, and every evil of the Daley Crime Family, when elections roll around.
"Hey SNEED, It's going to cost the city more in overtime with the car situation. They will be beggin us to take the cars back!"
YOU MUST BE A BOSS CAUSE YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!! The few times your clout ass has to work verus an everyday expense! CLOUT BITCH!
I am so tired of everyone who throws out thoughts on these matters like they know. Until you are IOD, until you have gone through it, shut the fuck up! I don't care what you heard or who you know. Liberals, yuppies or anything else- Everyone one of you who spews your brain-drippings as facts that you would die on IS the problem with the site!
The fact is that for most of you this is your first real job and you have no real clue what the fuck you are talking about! So shut up and take your laundry to momma cause you have not learned how to do it yourself!
i hate the medical section with a passion. i had a city doctor fuck me up good.
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Thats why you don't use the city's doctors. Find out which specialists are with the city and then find your own. It is your RIGHT to find a doctor that is working for you, not for the city's best interest.
That is what i ended up doing. i wound up going to a prestigous sports doctor who took care of me. gave me the physical therapy i needed to recover, and did a second surgery to clean up the mess that the city doctor did.
Go to an FOP meeting once in a while, this was discussed at the last one. And if you can't go, track down your rep and find out WTF is going on. Of course, good luck with whether or not your rep was there!!
When a person retires under certian provisions it is a contract. The terms of the retirement do not chnage. Obamacare(?) doesn't exist yet and is not part of the retiremant agreement.
Anonymous said...
Hey, ASSHAT! IF the Dr reccomends surgery, you are correct, it's up to him. But THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE. THE ISSUE IS PAYMENT. If the dr reccomends surgery and the insurance co. deneis it, and thePO wont pay for it, then what, the dr will do it for free? Moreon
NO MORON,
THE ISSUE IS CONVENTRY IS DENYING IOD TREATMENTS CAUSING THE FOP TO FILE SUIT.
HOW DID YOU GET ON THE JOB IF YOU HAVE NO READING COMPREHENSION SKILLS??
9/01/2009 08:29:00 PM
reading comprehension skills? Do YOU not comprehend that payment is denied by Coventry.. AN INSURANCE COMPANY?!?! Its all one and the same! And we both know that reading, much less comprehension, is not required for this job. You simply need to show up for work most of the time and not get lost...
9/01/2009 11:58:00 PM
Yes, READING COMPREHENSION !!!!!
The payment is not being denied by CONVENTRY - the SURGERIES RECOMMENDED BY THE INITIAL DOCTOR IS BEING DENIED.
COVENTRY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PAYMENT OF THE PROCEDURE - THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE PAYS THOSE BILLS ONCE A LARGE GROUP OF THEM HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL THEREBY CAUSING THE YEAR(S) OF DELAYING PAYMENT CAUSING THE OFFICER TO RECEIVE COLLECTION NOTICES AND HIS CREDIT SCORE TO SUFFER.
SO YES READING COMPREHENSION!!! ty
Future Candidate said...
FOP NEEDS A COMPLETE OVERHAUL IN LEADERSHIP. TIME TO THINK OUT OF THE BOX!! VOTE SOMEONE IN WHO WILL WORK FOR THE MEMBERSHIP AND NOT THEMSELVES. SELL THE BUILDING, DOWNSIZE THE BOARD AND LIMIT THE EXECUTIVE BOARD TO ONLY ONE VICE PRESIDENT. WHY DO WE NEED ALL THOSE BOARD MEMBERS AND SUCH A LARGE BUILDING, FOR WHAT. YOU THINK SIZE MATTERS? FUCK NO, THE SMALLER, THE BETTER IN GETTING THE JOB DONE.
9/01/2009 10:30:00 AM
Amen. My sentiments exactly. I cannot get an honest answer from a unit rep or from the FOP on WHY we need so MANY VICE PRESIDENTS. This is absolutely ridiculous. Especially since we are paying some high salaries for all these guys. You'd think they were representing an entire state instead of just one freakin department. I am with you on this one.
You can talk forever about the merits of the " public " option. Just look at the Post Office, IRS and any other agency. Do you seriously want that for yourself and your family>? If so, you are out of your mind.
i saw my doctor's charts for my shoulder surgery. it was a $10,000 dollar surgery, and the first payment the city gave to the doctor was for $200.00 bucks. it would take 50 payments to pay it off.
"You can talk forever about the merits of the " public " option. Just look at the Post Office, IRS and any other agency. Do you seriously want that for yourself and your family>? If so, you are out of your mind.
9/02/2009 10:27:00 PM"
WHAT DO YOU HAVE NOW? A CHOICE BETWEEN A PPO W/ A 5 GRAND DEDUCTIBLE OR A HMO THAT 3/4 OF DOCTORS DON'T ACCEPT THAT ALS DENY PAYMENT ON A CONTINUAL BASIS?
THEY'VE BEEN CHIPPING AWAY AT OUR MEDICAL FOR YEARS WAIT & SEE HOW WE TAKE IN THE SHORTS ON THIS CONTRACT. WHO'S OUT OF THEIR MIND?
I'm a retired dic and my son who is a po got jammed up through no fault of his own.
Greg Bella went to bat for the kid, big time and stopped what was looking like a home town lynching.
Greg has balls and cares about the ordinary po and isnt afraid to stand up for his guys.
BELLA NEEDS TO BE PRESIDENT OF OUR FOP!!!!
These comments about "Obamacare" seem so mis-informed as to be both sad and laughable. The problem here is the PRIVATE insurance company the city has contracted out to, not any kind of government run health care. They're denying these claim to make more money: welcome to free enterprise in health care. This is just the police experiencing the kind of problem people in the private sector have been experiencing for a long time, which makes many want a program more like medicare (a GOVERNMENT program). Only in the right-wing echo chamber of many commentators on this site could this somehow be taken as some kind of indictment of government insurance. To those with a half-open mind, this complaint just shows the need for a public option in insurance.
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The city is self insured you nit wit. Once again Obama relies on the ignorance of his constituency.
Anonymous said...
all of the medical abusers on this job will ruin it for everyone else--- if you do not hit the medical for one year you should get a bonus similar to the physical fitness bonus... if you are light duty you cannot be promoted--- it's incredible how many people become full duty when their name comes up on the list for promotion--- and after promotion they immediately suffer a reoccurence and are back light duty faking it all over again....
9/01/2009 01:44:00 AM
While I do understand what you're saying, I don't agree. If I have to sit next to you in a car and you're sick and contageous, do me a favor... TAKE THE MEDICAL DAY.
NOONE wants to get sick because of you and your need for the extra money for not hitting the medical!!!
IOD is another subject, but if you're genuinely sick and the city wants to reward you for either burning 8 or coming to work, you're a. stupid and b. contageous.
it's there for a reason.
I don't condone medical abusing, but if you're sick, STAY HOME! Like every other real job in the world. Offer a sick copper a couple hundred to come in sick, you're putting your coworkers who prob can't afford to be sick, in danger of contracting whatever you're fighting through.
This happens every change of seasons, we're a young watch. We still ALL eventually contract what p.o. whoever brought to work because of his kids/sidejob/being run down. STAY HOME IF YOU ARE GENUINELY SICK.
Nobody wants to work with you anyways.
Anonymous said...
Future Candidate said...
FOP NEEDS A COMPLETE OVERHAUL IN LEADERSHIP. TIME TO THINK OUT OF THE BOX!! VOTE SOMEONE IN WHO WILL WORK FOR THE MEMBERSHIP AND NOT THEMSELVES. SELL THE BUILDING, DOWNSIZE THE BOARD AND LIMIT THE EXECUTIVE BOARD TO ONLY ONE VICE PRESIDENT. WHY DO WE NEED ALL THOSE BOARD MEMBERS AND SUCH A LARGE BUILDING, FOR WHAT. YOU THINK SIZE MATTERS? FUCK NO, THE SMALLER, THE BETTER IN GETTING THE JOB DONE.
9/01/2009 10:30:00 AM
Amen. My sentiments exactly. I cannot get an honest answer from a unit rep or from the FOP on WHY we need so MANY VICE PRESIDENTS. This is absolutely ridiculous. Especially since we are paying some high salaries for all these guys. You'd think they were representing an entire state instead of just one freakin department. I am with you on this one.
9/02/2009 08:56:00 PM
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Just shut the fuck up Wayne. Enough already. You're not even a member.
Anonymous said...
Can someone tell me what is so hard about the following:
The public option will be exactly like a private insurance plan. However, the government will charge a LOW premium with LOW prices for drugs. Premiums will go to paying for your medical procedures if you buy the government plan. UNLIKE the private plans to date, the government plan will not have restrictions for pre-existing conditions; will not drop you for any reason; and the government will negotiate to get you the lowest prices for your drugs. If you belong to the government plan, NOT ONE PENNY of your premiums will go to advertising or failed Research and Development (R&D) or to exorbitant CEO salaries. That's why the government plan will be good for low income participants, those who lose their jobs, and the poor.
9/02/2009 10:55:00 AM
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And you Sir, why you just stop talking like a reasonable person. Your kind is not welcome here.
my bills just went to collection therefore ruining my credit because the medical section did not cover my bills! is there anything i can do?
To whomever wrote that bc/bs will cover bill's for an iod is smoking some kind of sh-t. I had an undisputed iod which I am on disability for. After the Dr the city sent me to botched the surgery I went to a real Dr. The Dr's office sent it to bc/bs for payment and it was denied due to the fact it was iod. I had a lawyer and I can't say if it's considered fraud or not but they will not pay for an iod. The city will not pay if you go to your own doctor on an iod. Unless their policy has changed in the last few years. It cost me 1,200.00 out of pocket. The Dr offered to give me money back which I thought was very nice. I declined his offer since I didn't feel he should lose out because I work for the City that sucks. However he has never charged me since.
One last note if you call the medical section for any reason make sure you do it from your cell phone. This way you have access to your bill quickly so they can't say you never called. Better yet if you are light duty at 311 make all your calls from the console so that they are recorded. Then when they say you never called you just tell them that all the calls were taped and you have no problem getting them. It works wonder's on their responses after that. Hope you all stay safe.
BELLA NEEDS TO BE PRESIDENT OF OUR FOP!!!!
9/02/2009 11:42:00 PM
FUCK NO!! HE IS PART OF THE PROBLEM, MORON!! AND YOU WONDER WHY THE MORALE IS LOW? JUST KEEP CHASING/ELECTING BAD AFTER BAD, AND WE KEEP GETTING SCREWED OVER IN PAY RAISES AND BENEFITS...BELLA FOR FOP PRESIDENT, NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN..
If you were hurt on duty why can't you be promoted??? You can die on this job, doing your job but if you get hurt doing your job, you can't be promoted! Sounds like a bunch of BS and a potential lawsuit!!
WHAT DO YOU HAVE NOW? A CHOICE BETWEEN A PPO W/ A 5 GRAND DEDUCTIBLE OR A HMO THAT 3/4 OF DOCTORS DON'T ACCEPT THAT ALS DENY PAYMENT ON A CONTINUAL BASIS?
THEY'VE BEEN CHIPPING AWAY AT OUR MEDICAL FOR YEARS WAIT & SEE HOW WE TAKE IN THE SHORTS ON THIS CONTRACT. WHO'S OUT OF THEIR MIND?
9/02/2009 11:40:00 PM
I hope you were drunk when you wrote t his. The deductible is not 5000 dollars. That is the yearly maximum out of pocket limit. Other than that, you make no sense.
What happens if a person takes the deal, 29/1 now or 55 maybe in the future, and uses up over 1.5 mil. insurance. Unfortunately there are many people that contract non IOD illnesses and injuries and run through max insurance money as stated.
Is there a provision for this.
Amen. My sentiments exactly. I cannot get an honest answer from a unit rep or from the FOP on WHY we need so MANY VICE PRESIDENTS. This is absolutely ridiculous. Especially since we are paying some high salaries for all these guys. You'd think they were representing an entire state instead of just one freakin department. I am with you on this one.
9/02/2009 08:56:00 PM
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Just shut the fuck up Wayne. Enough already. You're not even a member.
9/03/2009 07:27:00 AM
Who is wayne? I'm a fop dues paying member and I can't understand why you are defending us paying the salaries of FOUR VICE PRESIDENTS when we don't even know why we are paying them and what they fucking do. You obviously are on the FOP board to even defend this. YOU shut the fuck up.
Who is wayne? I'm a fop dues paying member and I can't understand why you are defending us paying the salaries of FOUR VICE PRESIDENTS when we don't even know why we are paying them and what they fucking do.
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First up poser, there are only three vice presidents.
And second, why don't you go to the FOP website and find out what they do? All the duties and committee assignments are there.
To 9/01/2009 08:33:00 PM
How long have you been on the job??
"First up poser, there are only three vice presidents."
Which is 2 too many.
"And second, why don't you go to the FOP website and find out what they do? All the duties and committee assignments are there."
Frank DiMaria is KICKING ASS on the Fishing, Golf, and Picnic committees, and is no slouch on the Special Events committee while he's not planning for fishing, golf, and picnics. Can I be on the Blow Me committee with you?
The city is self insured you nit wit. Once again Obama relies on the ignorance of his constituency.
9/03/2009 12:04:00 AM
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The City is self insured whem morons, not moreons, but MORONS lke YOU get in to a preventable jam. Like you wrongfully beat some guy or he"trips" down the stairs or you have an accident. But for your MEDICAL and IOD...you have PRIVATE INSURANCE...DICKWEED.
I ain't sayin' nothin'...
I'm just sayin'
Anonymous said...
What happens if a person takes the deal, 29/1 now or 55 maybe in the future, and uses up over 1.5 mil. insurance. Unfortunately there are many people that contract non IOD illnesses and injuries and run through max insurance money as stated.
Is there a provision for this.
9/03/2009 11:34:00 PM
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Yes...AFLAC or PUBLIC OPTION (OBAMACARE)
I ain't sayin' nothin'...
I'm just sayin'
Frank DiMaria is KICKING ASS on the Fishing, Golf, and Picnic committees, and is no slouch on the Special Events committee while he's not planning for fishing, golf, and picnics.
Can we pay our bills with all these stupid committees? No one benefits but the FOP & the good old boys. Fuck the committees, get us our raises and retro's.
I president and l vice president is enough.
Everyone is slamming Obama,healthcare reform, and socialized medicine. Well,you got what you asked for; a PRIVATE contractor administering healthcare for P.O's on IOD. Hey,no way a private agency is going to come between you and your Doctor right?
..So did our CPD file a class-action lawsuit? What happened to our members denied by the Covantry Care company?
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