Sergeant Contract Fails
Not just fails - fails badly:
- Number of ballots returned: 1,012 (79% participation)
- Ballots counted: 1,010
- Votes to Accept the Contract: 84 (8%)
- Votes to Reject the Contract: 926 (92%)
Too bad the City filed for arbitration, otherwise we might have seen a 93% rejection rate from the FOP membership. Nicely done Sergeants.
Labels: contract stuff
posted by SCC at 3:22 PM
83 Comments:
Just goes to show you that most of us Seargants (the ones who made it by score not by whore) are PO's with stripes. It's not till you make Lt that they cut off your balls and attach them to your star. Now do us proud FOP and get us everything we deserve.
A Sgt. who still is a member of FOP
Not a cop, but support the police on this one. There is no way your wages should be frozen. With as much corruption that goes on in this city and state. Sorry. There should at least be a cost of living increase thrown in. At least. Thanks for allowing to share.
God Bless! Tomorrow we lose the lympics!
Great job to all who voted no to another shit offer by shortshanks.
To bad the Lts and Captains couldn't of stuck together to make that happen.
Let's just hope that we don't get screwed like we did last time we opted for arbitration.
KISS MY (FAT) ASS AND GIVE ME MY CASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OT: WIth the Olympics decision less than 24 hours away, I have decided to support the Chicago bid. Despite all the shady deals that will be made, I am envisioning more overtime to work than I will ever see in my career.
Right now I'm watching Glen Beck on fox news slam Shortshanks and his shady deals on national news. I hope the stuttering king blows his top when he see's this.
Thanks for making my day Glen and Fox news you are the best!!!
NINETY-TWO PERCENT! What a cojones statement!
I always believed chevrons were "a badge of honor". This vote confirms it. You do the blueshirts, dicks and retired sergeants proud, Sarge.
Could it be that only the most despicable CPD "merit" suckholes "qualify" for bars, oak leaf clusters and stars?
We certainly can't rule that out, can we now?
Fuck yeah! We did it! Now go get 'em in arbitration FOP!
Bad Contract from the start...I'm glad no one caved to the age 55 and out pressure....If the department ends up making Lieutenant a non-testable position like Captain, you can bet everything the results would have been reversed....92% for and 8% against....
Let the rebellion... begin!
"Sergeant Contract Fails"
Or would you say "Revolution Is A Success"?
Good job, straw bosses.
OFF TOPIC
5 different pension funds are suing Bank of America for fraud in their take over of ML last year. It is alleged that BAC knew that Merrill (ML) was in financial difficulty but hid that fact from shareholders. They are asking for lots of $.
Did our pension fund advisors ( using that term loosely) have any BAC shares? Are they or the Fund taking any affirmative action like these other funds?
old retired guy
8%, go suck daleys balls bitches!
Just wanted to say great job Sergeants. Nearly 80% voter turnout. Unbelievable. A resounding NO!!!
Good luck with your future arbietration. I will be wishing the best for you all.
God Bless.
Good job---but only 79% voted?
Shows you who the real leaders are on this job. The Sergeants!
good job Sgt's, you have a bit bigger Ball size than I thought you all had. Stand with the Rank and File Troops against the evil and corrupt Daley Regime. We are all Police Officers, they are CRIMINALS. Fuck this getting kicked around every day and be the Last ALWAYS to get a Contract. Fuck, Satan Daley, and his City Hall Demons.
Hey Moprah-Slum Times Hater. The poor kid who was murdered not by the CPD but by a gang of ( Fill in the blank Moprah)) was just walking home to Granddad's house. Now Momma shows up 3 YEARS later after moving from Shitcago 450 miles away to Mt.Vernon, Il before dropping the child off at Granddad's so we taxpayers here pick up his education, book fees, breakfast and lunch. If momma was so concerned she should have taken her son with her to Mt. Vernon. Definitely not momma of the year award for girlfriend coming back to Shitcago trying to hit the ghetto lottery by blaming CPD and CPS.
Fuck Daley !!!!!!!!
Fuck Jesse Jagoff !!!!!!!!
Fuck the School Principal too !!!!!!!!!!!
at least the sgt's have balls unlike the lt's and capt's
I am proud of you ladies and gentlemen. Very proud. Stay strong. Stay united.
Signed, Old Retired Sarge.
At least they didnt sell out like the other bitches did.
WHY and WHO exactly would vote for the contract in the first place? Oh wait, that's right, clout heavy j-offs who will be ushered up the ranks anyway...
Good job sargs!
Thank you, SCC.
The air isn't quite so rare at our level and our brain cells haven't been damaged by a lack of oxgen.
I know several sergeants, myself included, who drove our ballots to the office, just to make sure they got there and got counted.
Sgts. put the lieutenants and captains to shame.
ThaNK YOU SERGEANTS. if this was approved, the city would have used this agianst the FOP in the current arbitration. This shows how far the city is out of touch with the sentiments of the police on the street. If this contract is not fair, I believe the city will remove a lot of incentive friom the street police, the department and city will never be the sams.
Soooooo, what actually did the city offer the chevrons that they rejected it? KUDOS TO THE SGTS. on knocking the city down with their minimal offer !!!! Stand United . once the 2016 bid goes to Rio, it'll be interesting to see what excuse he can possibly come up with ..... Less than 24 hours people.......
OT
The bag man has arrived in Copenhagen. Burke arrived Thursday, as did Quinn, and the third stooge, Durbin, arrives later.
Daley has all the puppets on stage at once. How can he eat with his hands full with all those strings?
Let's put it this way. The CPSA & theCity came to the bargaining table (think like a buffet). Salary increase, health plan, other things. Some you like, some not so much. (Like roast beef with nasty veggies on the side. You'll eat the veggies just because there's the roast beef) Then the City surprisingly pulls all monetary items off the table. No adjustments to anything else, no money. WHY EAT ONLY VEGGIES WHEN THERE ISN'T ANY ROAST BEEF?
That's why 926-84.
I'm glad the Sgt's understand. Too bad th Lt's and Capt's sold out.
WELL AT LEAST THEY VOTED.
TOO BAD THE LT'S WILL SELL THEMSELVES OUT SCREWING UP THE SGT'S FUTURE PROMOTIONS.
OFF TOPIC:
WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH THE NEW STANDARD FOR APPLYING FOR A UNIT (NOT A PROMOTION).
CREDIT CHECKS
POWER TEST
MEDICAL BACKGROUND RELEASE FORMS
IS THE FOP DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS?
WHAT IS A GOOD CREDIT STANDARD AND WHO DECIDES?
WHO LOOKS AT THE CREDIT REPORTS?
WHAT IS HEALTHY?
IS THIS A METHOD OF NOT PROMOTING OFFICER WHO HAVE BEEN INJURED ON THE JOB?
IF YOUR NOT ON LIMITED DUTY WHY THE MEDICAL RELEASE?
AND WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT A POWER TEST, THAT IS THE STATES STANDARDS FOR BEING EMPLOYED. WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANY OTHER POSITION.
DONT TRUST J-FED W/ ALL THAT INFO BOYS AND GIRLS ALL THE DEPARTMENT FILES FIT ON 1 HARD DRIVE.
SCC IF U COULD SHED LIGHT.
Great Job Sergeants. Too bad the Lt. and the Captains caved in. It's good to now that the other people that actualy work in the street aside from the P.o's had the balls to reject the midgets offer.
Good for the Sergeants. They get shit on as much as we PO's do. They deserve a decent contract.
New York gave their officer's a 5% across the board raise over 4 years. No arbitrator needed. The mayor stated this way the officer's can focus on their jobs. The public was happy that the officer's were happy with their contarct. So much for this City..
Way to go... Something is starting to smell, not sure what it is, but things are looking pretty FUBAR.
Not to go too far off on this one, but what in the hell is up with the press in this town. It's almost like this midget is trying to run this city into the ground and the press is out to lunch, literally. Outside news is digging up the corruption in regards to this Olympic bid and who it really benefits and where the local press is, kissing the midgets ass.
Mean while the citizens get screwed, city services are a joke and unfortunately, when you play games with the manpower numbers, just like with the UCR’s, it all comes out in the street. We all know that shits going to happen, but WTF, at least give us the tools and manpower, (contrary to the bullshit, were what? about 2,000 short), just a fighting chance would be nice...
Maybe we can get a leader in the department too... yeah I know I'm really stretching, I got to stay away from the Jack and stick with just beer.
At least the Sgts have BALLS!
Good job my fellow sergeants. As for the Lts and Capts, you are sellouts, but that is how most of you got your position anyhow. This department has failed it Officers, its Supervisors, and the citizens. There are nothing but political hacks throughout. This department is ruined. There are all sorts of managers, but no leaders. Things are only going to get worse.
While I'm sure the Sgt.'s union was hoping to hell their membership accepted the contract so they could avoid Shitshanks' wrath by disallowing their friends and family further promotion and patronage, I'm glad to see the Sgt.'s on the job stand up against that fuckhead Daley and tell him to shove his shit back up his own ass.
Thanks guys, we all appreciate what you've done and I hope it makes a difference in the next year or so.
Just goes to show you that most of us Seargants (the ones who made it by score not by whore) are PO's with stripes. It's not till you make Lt that they cut off your balls and attach them to your star. Now do us proud FOP and get us everything we deserve.
A Sgt. who still is a member of FOP
10/01/2009 03:36:00 PM
Sure you're a sergeant. You can't even spell your rank.
Great job to sgts with balls/and without! Thanks for supporting your officers in our struggle,the lts and captains put on the coward bars now!
55 and out would be nice since I'm 55, but I'm not selling my soul on this one....not with Olympic monies coming along.
Money will come either from the games themselves, or all the money shortshanks stashed away, either way, I'm waiting.
(OT) On anderson coopers website link to chhttp://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/10/01/interactive-chicago-crime-map/icago crime mapping!
Does anyone know the average age of a sergeant? My guess not nearly old enough to benefit from the proposal. Why vote for it if it clearly does not effect you. Everyone with half a brain wants a wage increase.....Hello?
Who cares anymore. The job is lost and we should all just do our 8 and go home.
OT: Fenger officers dumped. My morale is way up you can wear my uniform. BOSS !!
Just goes to show you that most of us Seargants (the ones who made it by score not by whore) are PO's with stripes. It's not till you make Lt that they cut off your balls and attach them to your star. Now do us proud FOP and get us everything we deserve.
A Sgt. who still is a member of FOP
10/01/2009 03:36:00 PM
Sure you're a sergeant. You can't even spell your rank.
10/01/2009 10:44:00 PM
Must be a merit sergeant cause you can't even spell.
Thanks Sarge! :)
OT-- The Death of Chicago continues -- with or without the Olympics.
"High reassessments could lead to 50 percent rent hikes"
"The dream of affordable rental housing in Chicago likely will become a forgotten memory because of 'astronomical' real estate tax assessments that effectively could lead to 50 percent rent increases over the next few years and force thousands of families out of the city..."
http://www.insideonline.com/site/
epage/14071_162.htm
...and...
"Rents could skyrocket due to tax increases -- Tax rates are down, but assessed values way up"
"Double-digit tax-assessment hikes on rental apartments during one of the worst real estate recessions since the Great Depression are sparking a rebellion among North Side apartment owners and managers who are seeking tax relief from Cook County...."
http://searchchicago.suntimes.com/
homes/news/1790493,apartment_
rents-092509.article
It's the P.O.'s, Dick's and Sgt's that run the police dept. The Capt's and Lt's play crossword puzzels. Funny how that works, the one's closer to the bottom that do all the work stuck together.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: WIth the Olympics decision less than 24 hours away, I have decided to support the Chicago bid. Despite all the shady deals that will be made, I am envisioning more overtime to work than I will ever see in my career.
10/01/2009 04:10:00 PM
Better save that OT...its ALL gonna be taxed to pay for the games cost overrun, which has been guaranteed by our fair aldermen. I'll dumb it down for ya.. you will be working as a whore for daley. He will get his games, which you don't want, give you OT, which you do want, then take your ot check straight away, which you don't want. Basically, with your plan, you are gonna provide free security for games you don't want. I'm guessing you will be a whiteshirt by then anyway.
"While I'm sure the Sgt.'s union was hoping to hell their membership accepted the contract so they could avoid Shitshanks' wrath by disallowing their friends and family further promotion and patronage . . . "
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FUCK YOU ASSHOLE.
Our board voted 12 to 1 to recommend rejection of the contract by it's members.
You sound like nothing more than a 5 year wonder-cop who thinks he knows all the answers.
Get a fucking clue.
Anonymous said...
OT: Fenger officers dumped. My morale is way up you can wear my uniform. BOSS !!
10/01/2009 11:16:00 PM
Officers in that district should refuse to work at Fenger to support the officers dumped in Jody's latest Cozzi type move.
79% participation is real good, that means lots of ballots were actually filled out and returned. That is way higher than in FOP ballots. The FOP sends out stamped return envelopes and it very lucky to get half back.
What I would like to see is who the hell are the 84 Sergeants who voted FOR this abortion of a contract?
Just goes to show you that most of us Seargants (the ones who made it by score not by whore) are PO's with stripes. It's not till you make Lt that they cut off your balls and attach them to your star. Now do us proud FOP and get us everything we deserve.
A Sgt. who still is a member of FOP
Another moron heard from, 109-101!!!!!! If the vote was 200 to 10 I could see your argrument, but stop ur freaking whining already about how the lt's sold u out. The city is fucking everyone!!!!
OT: WIth the Olympics decision less than 24 hours away, I have decided to support the Chicago bid. Despite all the shady deals that will be made, I am envisioning more overtime to work than I will ever see in my career.
Are u serious? Yes there will be a few overtime programs, but Daley will ensure some outisde connected firm get the a huge fat contract, and they will hire off duty guys at a 3rd of what they would normally make if it was regular O.T.
Remember the Sergeants Association is led by John Pallohusky, not some merit Irish sellout. John led the charge against this insulting contract proposal, and he filed the lawsuit to pull down the most corrupt lietenants list in recent memory. Best part about finally passing that test high enough to get promoted is being severed from the good 'ol Irish drinking club, the FOP! John will never be merit anything. He doesn't need to be. He's smart enough to pass a test. And he's incorruptable, unlike the Nolan, Dineen, et al. And all the Irish merit idiots surrounding him in the D.
Anonymous said...
Remember the Sergeants Association is led by John Pallohusky, not some merit Irish sellout. John led the charge against this insulting contract proposal, and he filed the lawsuit to pull down the most corrupt lietenants list in recent memory. Best part about finally passing that test high enough to get promoted is being severed from the good 'ol Irish drinking club, the FOP! John will never be merit anything. He doesn't need to be. He's smart enough to pass a test. And he's incorruptable, unlike the Nolan, Dineen, et al. And all the Irish merit idiots surrounding him in the D.
10/02/2009 07:48:00 AM
Remember the Sergeants Association as led by John Pallohusky is the same Sgt's Association that refused to support the FOP when we picketed the City in protest of the lack of contract progress on April 2, 2009.
If Pallohusky was such a fantastic stand-up guy he would have been out on the picket line with us instead of trying to cut a better deal on his own.
Why wasn't he and the rest of the Sergeants standing tall with us all along? Now we are to believe he is the second coming of Jimmy Hoffa as a labor leader? Hah!
84 sergeants voted yes will be the 84 promoted to lt when the selection process is changed
we'll be stuck working for the political hacks
we have to stick together , document the short hours captains work and get the 45 minutes ot
everyday
that's why captains voted yes
"79% participation is real good, that means lots of ballots were actually filled out and returned. That is way higher than in FOP ballots. The FOP sends out stamped return envelopes and it very lucky to get half back."
HERE'S AN IDEA WHY ARENT CONTRACT BALLOT BOXES PLACED IN ALL THE AREAS? WHY? BECAUSE THIS IS THE FLOPS COLLUSION W/ THE CITY.
LOW VOTES ENSURES BULLSHIT CONTRACTS & MORON BOARDS ARE PUT IN PLACE!
Anonymous said...
"While I'm sure the Sgt.'s union was hoping to hell their membership accepted the contract so they could avoid Shitshanks' wrath by disallowing their friends and family further promotion and patronage . . . "
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FUCK YOU ASSHOLE.
Our board voted 12 to 1 to recommend rejection of the contract by it's members.
You sound like nothing more than a 5 year wonder-cop who thinks he knows all the answers.
Get a fucking clue.
10/02/2009 02:28:00 AM
Hey pal, EVERYONE knows your union & the Cpt. & Lt. unions are as worthless as tits on a bull.
FOP does the heavy lifting around here, not you.
Insignificant unions such as yourselves exists for nothing more than to make a few of you feel like you're more important than the rest of you.
The only time you matter in the least is an occasion such as the one we just went through, where there is a bit of publicity available to you because your membership decided not to get ass fucked by daley. Usually you and the other "excess" unions do nothing but hide in the shadows and wait for the FOP to ensure your bargaining rights are protected. Other than trying to get some kind of separate attention for superfluous little changes that most Sergeants don't bother thinking about, you basically piggyback off of the FOP.
Now as far as the Cpt. and Lt. contacts I'm sure it's the same thing although I haven't read them, which is, I'm sure they'll do all the same handwaving with their useless gestures of complaince with Shortshit's demands and in the end, stand on the "me too" clause to once again let the FOP do the heavy lifting to get them a raise.
If I'm wrong about the C&L unions, then I'm happy as a clam in shit because for their betrayal in accepting Daley's leftover shitsteak they deserve to sit in their own urine for the next 5 fucking years while the rest of us get what's been due them for the last 2 fucking years.
save the pension
eliminate the rank merit captain
no captains in 5 and 20 for 4 hours everyday
lieutenants run the watch in every district a minimum of 135 days a year without a problem
our mayor can't figure this out or cpd command staff
most exempts are lieutenants
the rank of captain 100 % merit
we all know it
time for us to bring this to attention during arbitration
let city explain why they can give 45 minutes overtime and extra checks to captains that only work an 8 hour day
as sergeants we earn our 45 minutes
and quarterly checks
it's time to play hardball
What I would like to see is who the hell are the 84 Sergeants who voted FOR this abortion of a contract?
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Maybe some people who have had enough of this nonsense and want to get the fuck out with a few extra dollars in their pockets. There will be a raise, probably small, some retro, but the free medical is a benefit that can result is some real dollars down the line. I don't begrudge anyone who voted no, everyone has their own reasons. 700 something a month is real money. I'd have to stay 3 or four more years to get that much in a regular percentage, and I want to get away from this mess.
as to this comment: WHY and WHO exactly would vote for the contract in the first place? Oh wait, that's right, clout heavy j-offs who will be ushered up the ranks anyway...
If someone voted yes, doesn't that mean that they want to leave, not stick around?
Just askin.
OK now go to arbitration and get nothing. You will only get what Short Shanks gives you. Show me that you came out ahead in any other arbitration....Can't can you. The Lt's and Capt's will retire at 55 and if you do get a raise so will they. Call them what you will but they have the upper hand on this one.
Shame on you Lts/Capt. You cowards.
I wonder if any of the Sergeants could enlighten some of us retired folks as to just what was so repugnent in the proposed contract?
10/02
7:48am
Is this the same guy who was one of Fat Phil's "chosen" detectives? Check his involvement with Fat Phil as his clout then come on here and praise the guy.
I'm amazed a week ago Sgt's were all assholes now they are the heroes of the blue shirts. Typical copper two faced bullshit.
One more time to those of you who can count. The Lt. Assoc board voted against the contract 9-1. The membership was almost comepletely split down the middle. The 55 was a great incentive if you have the age and it was tied to the contract. If the population of Lt. rank was younger like the Sgt. that contract would have gone down in flames.
sergeant will stick together
it's time to gather evidence on the waste in cpd
commanders hiding police officers in clerical positions
lack of manpower in patrol
1 man units on 1st and 3rd watches
1 or 2 sergeants covering a district
sell out merit captains receiving extra time and pay while working an 8 hour day or less
this is our chance to change cpd
we can do it
we work the streets not the captains and lieutenants
lieutenants are usually in another district as watch commander
no field lt and senior sgt should receive out of grade pay as a field lt , if not get rid of the field lt position
no field lt and more money for us
we can do it , beef up sgt ranks
sgt runs the 1st watch in 5 and 20 for 4 hours a day on 1st watch
'Remember the Sergeants Association is led by John Pallohusky, not some merit Irish sellout.'
OH SHUT UP! Stop making Pallohusky out to be the second coming of Jesus...lets not forget that he, as head of the Sgts. Union, failed to support the march against City Hall on 02 April, citing that he and his union were in "talks with the City concerning their own contract", which apparently led to the City offering the Sgts. the same 'ol bullshit they've offered EVERYONE ELSE. Glad to see the membership of the PBPA Sgts. had the balls to do what the Lts. SHOULD have done (and what we all knew the 'merit' Capts. would NEVER do), but don't paint Pallohusky as some brilliant leader. He should have supported the march, and he didn't, and I won't forget that.
---A Sgt.
Likely King Daley and his crime family engineered the whole thing so they can claim they bargained but the union turned it down.
Now they can go to arbitration with thir sad story of no money and get the arbitrator to give them exactly what they want and not have to bargain for it.
IMO, the Sgt's did not so much give King Daley the finger as they stuck it in their own eye.
What are u celebrating? We still have nothing. The Sgt.'s union is a complete failure. What is my real score on the last Lt. test?
We just have to hope that the arbitrator isn't in Daley's pocket.
Anonymous said...
We just have to hope that the arbitrator isn't in Daley's pocket.
10/02/2009 06:08:00 PM
The arbitrator is Edward Bene, the same guy we had for the last contract.
FOP does the heavy lifting around here, not you.
What FOP are you talking about?
Our FOP is totally worthless, led by that POS Dumbahue.
I am one of the Sgts who would have been able to take advantage of the 55 and out with insurance within a year and a half. In good conscience in addition to having a moral conscience I could not do that to all that will follow in the future. The raise is important but more so are the other additions, the right to have you blow, physical fitness exam, etc. Once the door is opened on these types of things it never closes but just opens wider. I could not do that to my co-workers even though the city thought we did. Just remember, there should be no difference in what color shirt you where when decisions are being made which affect all of us. United we stand, devided we fall.
There are wellover 150 Sgt's that could have taken the 55 and out which explains the voting for the contract numbers. But aside from that there was shit in the contract for Sgt's. Mandatory drug and alcohol testing at the cities will. No more vacation, Baby furlough or personal days. No money whatsoever!!! No gains in seniority issues so the kiss asses still go where they want, while others never see any bids open anywhere but the southside.
You mean if I had voted Yes I would be promoted to Lieutenant in the next class? Damn Damn Damn!
A real sergeant (not a seargent) who made it by score - and can spell too.
"I'm amazed a week ago Sgt's were all assholes now they are the heroes of the blue shirts. Typical copper two faced bullshit.
10/02/2009 11:03:00 AM"
HOW SOON THEY FORGET!!
ALL THAT HAIRGEL IS TURNING THEIR MELONS INTO MUSH!!
sergeants run the the cpd
cpd can do without captains and field lieutenants
lieutenants run distict when captains off
get rid of merit captains and more money for sergeants
but not sergeants
this is message the arbitator must hear
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