Addressing the 4-2 Rumor
People are asking why we publish it, why we give it air, why we respond to it. Others are claiming we shouldn't publish unverified rumors and it's our responsibility to double and triple check everything that goes up on the main page.
First of all, this is a blog. It's a place to vent, to feel what's out there, get feedback on a near instant level, or 24 hours tops. Frankly, we're surprised the FOP hasn't co-opted the format and used it to their advantage at some point in the last four years. It isn't terribly difficult. Time consuming, yes, but not so difficult.
Second, we aren't the media. We don't want to be the media. They're intellectually dishonest, morally bankrupt and tools to the "nth" degree. No thanks.
And finally, just how do people expect us to verify every little thing that pops up here? Rumor Central has been gone for 10 or more years now. You think we have time for this?
- ::ring ring:: Hello, FOP, How may I help you?
- Yes, this is...uh...SCC. Could you comment....
- ::click::
Or...
- ::ring ring:: City Hall, How may I direct your call?
- Hi! This is ... uh ...a concerned cop. We run a small website and we were wondering...
- ::whispered conversation:: "Get a trace on this one Jimmy!"
We exist on "reader generated" content. If that means we give some "credence" to rumor, that isn't a reflection on the blog - that's a reflection on the piss-poor job the FOP and the Department are doing keeping cops in the loop. We didn't give this front page play to fuck with the process, we put it up front and center because this story was getting legs and we felt we had to get out in front of it. We all deserved as much info as we could get in the shortest amount of time. Believe it or not, the truth eventually comes out in this format. Rumors fly and get shot down quicker, facts come out, people step forward. It might be ugly, but it works better than J-Fed's blog or the FOP site.
Seriously, was there any reason to let this run around unchecked for the entire weekend without the vaguest denials from the FOP or J-Fed? J-Fed needs a win to maintain any semblance of credibility within the Department. The FOP needs a win to run for re-election because this contract is going to be a wash. By not addressing it, did they think they'd destroy the blog? Our numbers went up because we were the only ones addressing it. Our credibility didn't suffer because we didn't start the rumor - we addressed it and asked for info from people who might know more than we did.
In any event, the situation still hasn't been addressed. We're still getting e-mails, comments are still flying around, rumors appear and disappear with equal speed. And we'll still try to get our readers the closest thing to the full truth that we can.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
70 Comments:
You still rock SCC, even though I did have the shits all weekend.....
This is mo fault of yours.
U never said it was off, you said emails and calls were flying and wanted to know if the readers heard anything.
I think a few babies are being a little hard on you. Someone who keeps up this blog for us with nothing in return.
Masters.
Piss moan...Piss Moan. I still love you SCC! No matter what they will always bitch. We could get 6% a year for 5 years and free medical and they will still bitch!
It's YOUR blog, SCC. Write whatever you want to write.
How odd that FOP sent three guys to second watch roll call in 014 this weekend and told us the citywide rollout of 4 and 2 had NOT been killed by Daley or anyone else. They told us it was going forward.
Why they couldn't post this on their website is beyond me.
One really interesting thing they said was that Ald Ed Smith was furious about the four and two schedule because he (drum roll, please) thought that meant we only worked a four day week.
Duh, alderpersons; there are seven days in a workweek (not that you'd know about that). When we work four days and are off two days, that still leaves another day on the calendar. Rather than erase that day with the miracle eraser, we actually WORK it, and it becomes day one of the next four on, two off.
It also means we don't have the same two days off every week.
Are these people stupid, or what. (No, that wasn't really a question.)
Well said SCC!!! Valid points on all fronts!!
EVERYTIME I call the FOP to ask a question, the ONE guy that has the answer is ALWAYS busy. How's that possible?
No worries SCC.
Keep up the good work SCC.
FOP reps stopped thru 001 today. The schedule, effective 01 jan 10 is 3 on, 3 off, 9.5 hour days. This is the gospel truth.
Now enough of the speculation, lies, rumors and water cooler talk.
And get back to writing some parkers. The mayor needs revenue to pay our retro.
I know people are giving you shit but make no mistake you are appreciated. The only thing you could do is temper your posts with ones that question the information or source of possible bullshit posts. Its OK to "censor" bullshit posts. Keep up the good work. You are STILL MUCH LOVED AND APPRECIATED.
Problem is that we have dumb fuck blow hard bosses mainly in the Lt's union that think they are in the know and never wanting anything good for the P.O.
Anonymous said...
That is why the FOP and the city originally liked this schedule! To make us use up the 6&4 BFD and P Days to get a few weekends off! It is costing a lot when most of us cash those days in! Remember, anything the FOP and the City like is not good for you!!!! Quit with the "4&2 rocks" crap! Use your head! Think outside the box! Why do you think they would help make it easier for us? Duhhhhhh!
11/02/2009 10:22:00 PM
Boy is this guy DUMB!!!! Do a little 3rd grade math and you may see the light. MORE TIME OFF!!!! It's simple! You will be off on the weekends more often young fella! And, what's wrong with two day weekends anyway? Especially when they happen more often. I'm just glad you are not and FOP leader.
10-4 on that.
Scc must have a fight to pick with FOP
you think so highly of yourself
The issue is not that you published a false rumor. The issue is that you didn't identify it as such, and came across as fact.
You're doin' a helluva job, daddy. You know who you are, even if others don't.
You can't change what's coming.
---not a cop
SCC, you still make me laugh!!
J-stupid and his gang were the ones fucking with you. Carry on young man don't get discouraged.
SCC,
Most of us have learned that until we see it on paper, anything and everything is just a rumor. Even when it's on paper, we have learned that paper can always be rescinded. It seems to me that when it comes to the blog, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. If rumors had been flying and you didn't give it any space, people would bitch that you were sleeping. But when you do make certain topics into headlines you are accused of stirring the pot. This just proves once again that certain people will complain no matter what. Keep up the good work in the mean time.
"In any event, the situation still hasn't been addressed. We're still getting e-mails, comments are still flying around, rumors appear and disappear with equal speed. Adn we'll still try to get our readers the closest thing to the full truth that we can."
which is pretty sad that I have to rely on a blog instead of my union which I pay for updates and infoation.
"We all deserved as much info as we could get in the shortest amount of time. Believe it or not, the truth eventually comes out in this format. Rumors fly and get shot down quicker, facts come out, people step forward."
Kinda like a new-age National Enquirer with Sarah Palin as editor-in-chief...don't change anything, rock on!
Semper Fidelis!
Scc must have a fight to pick with FOP
Only with the job they aren't doing
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you think so highly of yourself
It's called ego and self confidence - try finding some.
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The issue is not that you published a false rumor. The issue is that you didn't identify it as such, and came across as fact.
Let's see...
"The phones are buzzing, the e-mail flying and the comment section is starting to heat up."
Anonymous phone calls, unverified e-mails and a blog comment section. Yeah, that's hard and fast fact.
And from some of the unpublished vitriol that violates policy:
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To the "cop" claiming to be "The entire 3rd Watch in 011," you're an embarrassment to the Department and the uniform and a poor specimen of police officer. You wouldn't make a pimple on a west side copper's ass or a boil on a southside copper's nut. "Internal issues" our asses - it's jagoffs like you that end up embarrassing everyone else because you ignore problems until they become festering sores - like your career no doubt. Asshat.
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To the same poster pretending to be someone else. Small is 10,000 hits a day. Drudge does a million plus. DailyKos does 2 and 3 million a day. We don't block opinion - we have rules and if you run afoul of the rules, you get deleted. Sorry you just got here last month but if you can't figure the rules our after getting blocked once or twice, well, that's your look out.
We're sorry you're so stupid - how's that for an apology?
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To someone telling us to THINK:
We never said no one was getting anything from the arbitrator.
Here's a thought - how about READING before you type? Do you have any idea how arbitration works? The FOP and City present the issues AND ONLY THE ISSUES that have led to the impasse. Unpaid furlough days aren't on the table. The 4-2 Schedule isn't on the table. They cannot suddenly bring up issues that were never the subject of the last 2.5 years of negotiation.
This contract is going to be narrowly altered, hence the term "wash." Nothing earth shattering, nothing radical most likely. And it's our thoughtfully considered opinion. we aren't putting it out there as anything else, so stop reading into what isn't there.
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To My Opinion:
You're obviously one of those who can't read what's written and insist on putting words our there that were never thought by us, let alone typed or spoken.
"more damage"? You're nuts - we don't form policy.
"second guessing"? That's one thing we regularly delete, especially in terms of shootings.
"domestic and personal relationships?" Only where it can be proven to have an undue influence on job performance, promotion, policy making or disciplinary findings.
Try separating what we write from what you interpret in the comment sections. You'll be happier eventually.
And to the other moron, we aren't sure what your axe to grind it with your delusion, but we have no idea who you're talking about.
We've never allowed speculation on that topic but it's amusing to see you let it eat you up. We're sure you have a tiny altar in the garage with little voodoo dolls and pictures of your obsession.
How about you just ask him out and get it out of your system? Maybe he'll like you.
Boy is this guy DUMB!!!! Do a little 3rd grade math and you may see the light. MORE TIME OFF!!!! It's simple! You will be off on the weekends more often young fella! And, what's wrong with two day weekends anyway? Especially when they happen more often. I'm just glad you are not and FOP leader.
11/03/2009 03:28:00 AM
No, you are wrong! Get your head out of your ass please. The 4-2 is not beneficial to us at all. The 6-3 is by far the best all around. The extra days you are getting with the 4-2 are spread out so much you wont even notice them. And your weekends do not come faster. Whats this crap of "what's wrong with two day weekends anyway?" Are you an idiot? really? are you?? EVERYTHING IS WRONG WITH A TWO-DAY WEEKEND YOU IDIOT. Sorry but I liked my 3-day weekends coming every 3rd-4th week on the 6-3 schedule. Its easy 3rd grade problem solving.....4 & 2sched = more burnt comp, personal, bfd days...........6 & 3 sched means you ALWAYS have 3 days in a row and your THREE DAY weekends come faster (thur-fri-sat.....sat-sun-mon......fr-sat-sun)and the week flies by and you dont need to burn ANY days for a 3day weekend. The 6 & 3 is by far the best for us, not 4 &2. Maybe its time for you to see the light pal.
Perfection does not exist!!!! Because of this site...we cut off the stupid bumper stickers as well as the "How the Police Are Fucking You" survey cards...keep up the good work!!!!!
Anonymous said...
"...Kinda like a new-age National Enquirer with Sarah Palin as editor-in-chief...don't change anything, rock on!"
11/03/2009 08:16:00 AM
I KNEW IT ! ! !
SCC is a chick! I always thought SHE was too smart to be a guy!
SCC, Thanks for all of the time and effort that you put into this blog , i think alot of people are just upset when they hear something that doesnt go their way and always want to blame someone else, but anyway, keep up the good work and thanks again for your time!
To SCC:
I may not always agree with what you post, however I find your blog very informative, and 99.9% of the time, you are on point.
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!!!
Thank You.
The problem with you guys is that, deep down, you want everything to get better. Don't you realize that the only way we will get our dignity back is if this cesspool collapses into mass chaos and civil unrest? You are an assclown wearing an asshat.
no 4-2 for me if anyone is counting. i love my job and like my 3 day weekends. don't want my working days to go to hours. i'm sorry if that offends anyone that's my opinion, but i will go by what the majority wants. thanks scc for the vent. you guys or gals do a good job.
If everybody had the Warrior Mentality, Dugan refers to nobody would be complaining about the 6 day work schedule. The warriors love to come to work, hell we would do it for free.
Would the warrior rather be locking up guys in the ghetto or at home with friends or family? You guessed it, at work...doing whatever the Company requires. This is a para-military organization, people better start trying to respect the vision of JPUD and his command staff. JPUD and his exempts don't want to hear any excuses, they want productivity, but if you fuck up or make the company look bad, you can kiss your ass goodbye. This guy will seek to fire your ass so fast if you make a mistake, and if you are lucky he might even try and put you in jail. JPUD expects you to bust your ass and not complain about the dangerous work conditions, shithole hours, the shitty district you are assigned or the lack of a fair contract. Do more with less, JPUD, Dugan and the exempts don't want to hear anymore excuses or complaints about manpower and morale. Suck it up and start acting like a warrior!!! You better start showing JPUD some respect, he got you M-4s and new Tahoes with GPS and cameras in them for officer safety, what other superintendent could do that for his warriors?
To the "cop" claiming to be "The entire 3rd Watch in 011," you're an embarrassment to the Department and the uniform and a poor specimen of police officer. You wouldn't make a pimple on a west side copper's ass or a boil on a southside copper's nut. "Internal issues" our asses - it's jagoffs like you that end up embarrassing everyone else because you ignore problems until they become festering sores - like your career no doubt. Asshat.
HEY!! YOU LEAVE OUR COMMANDER ALONE!!!!!..(FILLMORE 2ND & 1ST WATCH)
Does that mean 701 gets 4 and 2? We signed for it,the commander wants it,HEY MARK WHAT KIND OF JAGOFF ARE YOU SAYING NO! ANOTHER REASON MIKE SHIELDS WILL BLAZE A NEW TRAIL AS HE TAKES THE REINS OF FLOP!
Hey SCC When does the "pilot" schedule like dalys guys have 1 on 1 off start? How about burkes 2 on 3 OFF all at D-3 pay plus all the overtime,and the ability to work many of your days at D-3 pay on CTA special! The valets manke $15,000+ base over the lowly D-1 pay rate but still take whatever they can! Why does daley need 2 commanders at the huge pay rate? GUESS KING DALEY LOOTS AND DOES WHATEVER HE WANTS!LET A COPPER A DECORATED WAR VETERAN LIKE COZZI DO ANYTHING AND YOUR IN PRISON!
friend of mine called FOP, they said its BS. The 4-2 is still on!
Just leave SCC alone. Don’t kill the messenger. Take your anger out on Daley and the aldergoofs by voting them out.
For all the softballs screaming about the 4-2 being a done deal, try and wrap this around your tiny brains:
Ask yourself this question, “Has the Department Notice entitled, “Annual Watch, Furlough, Vacation Schedules, and 2010 Operational Calendar” been published as of todays date???
Has it???
Wait for it…
Wait for it…
NO it hasn’t.
Why is that?? Hmmm… I wonder.
Well I’m gonna help you again: Because we can’t pick our furloughs until the city and the Department agree on the 4/2 schedule.
Think about that.
Everyone just wants to speculate about what they have heard. Then they want to sit here and complain. If you want to know what is going on, email our ELECTED officials who seem to not give a damn about us when it is not an election year. The FOP never posts any updates or info we REALLY care about. Maybe they will if they receive 10,000 emails from their union members. Copy and paste the below into an email and you will allow all the "brains" at the FOP to realize that their members DEMAND answers and want/expect to be better informed. If you don't email them and ask for answers, then complaining and speculating is doing NOTHING.
mdonahue@chicagofop.org, bdougherty@chicagofop.org, fdimaria@chicagofop.org, gbella@chicagofop.org, sdavis@chicagofop.org, jcapparelli@chicagofop.org, raguilar@chicagofop.org, bburns@chicagofop.org, jmoriarty@chicagofop.org, kwatt@chicagofop.org, wnolan@chicagofop.org, darmstrong@chicagofop.org, jbailey@chicagofop.org, hbrown@chicagofop.org, rbullock@chicagofop.org, jbutney@chicagofop.org, pduckhorn@chicagofop.org, mgarza@chicagofop.org, kgraham@chicagofop.org, ahanley@chicagofop.org, chornowski@chicagofop.org, eking@chicagofop.org, rrutherford@chicagofop.org, tmcdonagh@chicagofop.org, bpodgorny@chicagofop.org, rshogren@chicagofop.org, tskelly@chicagofop.org, dtrevino@chicagofop.org
Anonymous Anonymous said...
EVERYTIME I call the FOP to ask a question, the ONE guy that has the answer is ALWAYS busy. How's that possible?
11/03/2009 12:29:00 AM
he's reading the blog. or...perhaps....writing the blog? lol
I called the fop.this is what I got.we are to busy right now selling you out.we are golfing and eating on ur dime.we sold out the bis officers and your next.we will give daley what he wants.if you don't like it,too bad.we know the same coppers will believe anything we say.we know best.we will inject you with koolaid.and you will drink.who said cooter
Oh my god! What are these people writing to you?
Whatever they are saying seems to be getting under your skin. Nobody likes to be the one who is being attcked. Been there.
But try to let it roll, brush it off. Obviously the posters are being ignorant and way out of line. Do they really matter?
Do you think they are thinking about their rude comments right now? Nope. They have gone on about their day. Dont waste your time even responding to them.
You do a great job and offer us a nice forum here. Like I said in my previous post, you ask for nothing in return.
Fuck them.
And shortshanks
and jfed and
MASTERS
I'm more pissed that the FOP website had nothing to say whatsoever about the subject. Nor does it have anything to say about the contract negotiation progress. And worst of all, no comment to Ed Smith's idea of unpaid furlough days. I don't even ski!
A sgt in my district started telling everyone the 4-2 was being taken back by the city. The 3rd watch captain in Englewood told people in roll call the 4-2 agreement was pulled back by the city. These two nimrods belong to a seperate union then the FOP. They have no business spreading false rumors about an agreement between two parties that neither of them belong to. The guy in Englewood can't help himself. He knows everything, just ask him.
You better start showing JPUD some respect, he got you M-4s and new Tahoes with GPS and cameras in them for officer safety, what other superintendent could do that for his warriors?
11/03/2009 10:34:00 AM
I AM 100% for being the Police, but this guy/gal is way off the reservation....... Someone clue this "warrior" in..... please!
6 and 3 is better!!!
"11/03/2009 10:34:00 AM"
very heartwarming.
now, bite me.
Boy is this guy DUMB!!!! Do a little 3rd grade math and you may see the light. MORE TIME OFF!!!! It's simple! You will be off on the weekends more often young fella! And, what's wrong with two day weekends anyway? Especially when they happen more often. I'm just glad you are not and FOP leader.
11/03/2009 03:28:00 AM
No, you are wrong! Get your head out of your ass please. The 4-2 is not beneficial to us at all. The 6-3 is by far the best all around. The extra days you are getting with the 4-2 are spread out so much you wont even notice them. And your weekends do not come faster. Whats this crap of "what's wrong with two day weekends anyway?" Are you an idiot? really? are you?? EVERYTHING IS WRONG WITH A TWO-DAY WEEKEND YOU IDIOT. Sorry but I liked my 3-day weekends coming every 3rd-4th week on the 6-3 schedule. Its easy 3rd grade problem solving.....4 & 2sched = more burnt comp, personal, bfd days...........6 & 3 sched means you ALWAYS have 3 days in a row and your THREE DAY weekends come faster (thur-fri-sat.....sat-sun-mon......fr-sat-sun)and the week flies by and you dont need to burn ANY days for a 3day weekend. The 6 & 3 is by far the best for us, not 4 &2. Maybe its time for you to see the light pal.
11/03/2009 09:13:00 AM
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You guys don't realize the 4/2 was the ONLY scedule the city would go along with! Sure there may be better. Some love 10 hrs, some love 6/3, others the 4/2. I'll take ANY one of the 3 over the current schedule. Worked the current one for 24 yrs and can't wait for the new schedule. You gotta understand the city was only gonna agree to the 4/2, end of story. If we didn't agree to it, it was back to 6/2. Screw that!
The 6 & 3 is by far the best for us, not 4 &2. Maybe its time for you to see the light pal.
Do you work the 6/3? If so, good for you. As for it being the best for us, that is another matter. If you are on this schedule then you have had almost a year to get used to it. But I wonder if you had the same opinion before the pilot program started?
The extra days you are getting with the 4-2 are spread out so much you wont even notice them.
Huh? Under the 4/2 I would be working 4 consecutive days in a row, then have 2 days off. Under the 6/3 I would work 6 consecutive days in a row and then have 3 off.
So under the 4/2 I only put in 34 hrs of work to get my RDO's where as under the 6/3 I would have to work 51 hrs before I get my RDO's.
And your weekends do not come faster.
This depends on how you define the "weekend." If you are referring to Sat/Sun then yes, on the 4/2 schedule the weekends would come every 6th week. The 6/3 schedule looks like it alternates; 5 weeks then 4 weeks until a Sat/Sun day off.
However, if you are referring to the weekend as your RDO's (like I'm sure most of us do), then the 4/2 beats out the 6/3.
EVERYTHING IS WRONG WITH A TWO-DAY WEEKEND YOU IDIOT.
Really? Under the current schedule the 3 day weekend comes every 5th week. So to get those 3 days off, I have to work 6 consecutive days in a week, for 5 weeks.
Its easy 3rd grade problem solving.....4 & 2sched = more burnt comp, personal, bfd days...........6 & 3 sched means you ALWAYS have 3 days in a row and your THREE DAY weekends come faster (thur-fri-sat.....sat-sun-mon......fr-sat-sun)and the week flies by and you don't need to burn ANY days for a 3day weekend.
Boy, you REALLY must not like having to BURN time. But hey, good for you. So if the 6/3 is so great and you don't need to burn time......just what the hell are you going to do with all your time accrued?
The way I look at it, and let me stress that this is just my opinion, that I would rather burn time than be BURNED OUT! By the 6th day I'm so sick of being at work that I'll throw a slip in to leave early. So in reality, I'm burning more time now.
With the 4/2, I only will have to deal with the idiots out there for 4 days in a row instead of 6. That translates to lower stress levels and since I won't be so high strung by the end of the work week, I'll be SAVING my time instead of using it.
I have been making calls and was told by someone at hq that the current holdup is FOP. Like they have done in the past they want something in return. They have done this before with the work schedule. They think since the city wants it they should be getting something without any reguard for the well being of the membership. HQ put on hold plans for watch bids and furlo because they are waiting on the schedule.
Well I’m gonna help you again: Because we can’t pick our furloughs until the city and the Department agree on the 4/2 schedule.
Then you will get your wish. The calendars will be out no later than the 20th.
You can all bitch about the work hours while I'm out catching perps in my cruiser.
Aww, hugs for SCC, there there, everything will be OK, have some candy. And no more rough-housing!
Let the commanders and LT's and Sgt's pussy ass union's deal for themselves. Don't you remember the Lt's union selling us out a few months back. We pay dues to OUR union. They put tons of hard work in and pounded out negotiations with the city and got the new schedule done. What the fuck did the Sgt's, lt's, capt's, commanders unions do? Nothing. Let their leadership work out their own new schedules. Our FOP should have nothing to do with their pompous asses.
Anonymous said...
A sgt in my district started telling everyone the 4-2 was being taken back by the city. The 3rd watch captain in Englewood told people in roll call the 4-2 agreement was pulled back by the city. These two nimrods belong to a seperate union then the FOP. They have no business spreading false rumors about an agreement between two parties that neither of them belong to. The guy in Englewood can't help himself. He knows everything, just ask him.
11/03/2009 04:12:00 PM
The Captain in Englewood thinks this blog is the gospel and passes it along to the troops.
I'm going on a 4-2 schedule,
4 months I.O.D. - 2 months medical. I'll be staying at stroger hospital with my property taxes.
Anonymous said...
You better start showing JPUD some respect, he got you M-4s and new Tahoes with GPS and cameras in them for officer safety, what other superintendent could do that for his warriors?
11/03/2009 10:34:00 AM
you goof
Anonymous said...
6 and 3 is better!!!
11/03/2009 07:14:00 PM
6-3 will not ever happen. The City will kill the current 6-3 pilot program before the end of 2010, count on it. Same with 10 hour days in District's. 4-2 for all 25 by end of 2010.
"I'm going on a 4-2 schedule,
4 months I.O.D. - 2 months medical. I'll be staying at stroger hospital with my property taxes.
11/04/2009 01:35:00 AM"
ya might wanta rethink that last part.
You can all bitch about the work hours while I'm out catching perps in my cruiser.
What you do off-duty in the privacy of mamma's basement is between yourself and G*d.
you should show him some respect Cameras for your safety, that probably get more po's in trouble than keep safe, M-4's you qualify with but wont be allowed to shoot on the street, Tahoes that cant be used in a chase and tip and finally GPS that track you constantly and will be used against you more than help you When was the last time a squad had to be located by a GPS, but I bet it was used many time in an IAD investigation
The FOP did this several years ago when they "created" a new schedule! They would not release a copy of the schedule but wanted all the reps to vote for it? Anyone remember that snafu? Typical FOP style of ramming thing through! It FLOPPED! Daley and FOP are riding in the same Trojan Horse! Look out!
Let the commanders and LT's and Sgt's pussy ass union's deal for themselves. Don't you remember the Lt's union selling us out a few months back. We pay dues to OUR union. They put tons of hard work in and pounded out negotiations with the city and got the new schedule done. What the fuck did the Sgt's, lt's, capt's, commanders unions do? Nothing. Let their leadership work out their own new schedules. Our FOP should have nothing to do with their pompous asses.
11/03/2009 11:27:00 PM
Hey, congratulations! You made the blog! Too bad you looked like an idiot while doing it! You have to be one of those people that think all bosses are jagbags, that is until one of them pulls your tit out of the wringer. Even then, you probably don't say thanks. You just continue to whine, irritating all those around you who actually know better, and know what a dog you really are.
Jim Bailey with the FOP is a straight forward stand up guy who always has time to answer question, dispell rumors or just keep you up to speed on things that most people don't even know is happening. He killed the 4 and 2 rumor immediately which I relayed to my district. They all wanted to give him and warm and fuzzy CAPS like hug.
With the 4/2, I only will have to deal with the idiots out there for 4 days in a row instead of 6. That translates to lower stress levels and since I won't be so high strung by the end of the work week, I'll be SAVING my time instead of using it.
11/03/2009 10:15:00 PM
You sir are a dumbass. The last stressful thing I think you did honestly was wipe your ass. Some districts will not let you drop a slip for time due to manpower and too many people requesting. Take a closer look at his post....it doesnt take five weeks for weekends to come around either. If your so high strung work the f'n desk or make a career change already. 4 &2 is bad.sorry but it is. 6 & 3 is the way to go in my opinion
oh my God, shut the hell up about "the west side"
I have a bunch of you "west side warriors" in my district. all talk about how you was the po-lice on the west side. amazing, all them burglars, murderers, robbers you caught on "da west side" and here you cant handle a domestic without crying to the zone that its not my beat or "I'm on a premise check"
shut the fuck up already, your west side shit don't impress anybody. what is impressive is your ability to be late to work everyday and dog it till check off.
Anonymous said...
With the 4/2, I only will have to deal with the idiots out there for 4 days in a row instead of 6. That translates to lower stress levels and since I won't be so high strung by the end of the work week, I'll be SAVING my time instead of using it.
11/03/2009 10:15:00 PM
You sir are a dumbass. The last stressful thing I think you did honestly was wipe your ass. Some districts will not let you drop a slip for time due to manpower and too many people requesting. Take a closer look at his post....it doesnt take five weeks for weekends to come around either. If your so high strung work the f'n desk or make a career change already. 4 &2 is bad.sorry but it is. 6 & 3 is the way to go in my opinion
11/04/2009 11:11:00 PM
Forget the 6&3 because it isn't going to happen. you can think it is better and express that opinion. You can also have the opinion that leather seats and BMW squad cars would be great but neither is going to happen.
6&3 will NEVER be expanded, NEVER, it very likely won't even last through 2010. The City wants it dead so it will be dead. History.
4&2 is our only option and I welcome it.
Jim Bailey with the FOP is a straight forward stand up guy who always has time to answer question, dispell rumors or just keep you up to speed on things that most people don't even know is happening. He killed the 4 and 2 rumor immediately which I relayed to my district. They all wanted to give him and warm and fuzzy CAPS like hug.
Thanks Jim.
I'm still not gonna vote for you or any of your colleagues.
One very good reason for no comments from the FOP except for Jim Bailey is they are very busy hammering out the details of actually putting the 4-2 into practice so watch and furlough picks can go off before the end of November and then there is this contract not settled thing now going through mediation soon to be arbitration.
I'd say that Donahue and company have their hands full each and every day right now so debunking bullshit rumors might not be at the top of their To-Do list.
I might be wrong, but I don't think so.
"..they are very busy hammering out the details of actually putting the 4-2 into practice so watch and furlough picks can go off before the end of November..."
How is the FOP keeping us in the dark on the status of the 4-2 a good thing? Ask the officers in 014 and 018 about the twelve extra 1st watch "R" cars that sit unused in each of their lots for 15 hours a day. Where will the city find the vehicles for the 4-2 schedule when we don't even have enough pool cars city-wide right now?
"...and then there is this contract not settled thing now going through mediation soon to be arbitration."
After reading your comment I soon will need to go through medication.
"I'd say that Donahue and company have their hands full each and every day right now so debunking bullshit rumors might not be at the top of their To-Do list."
TRU dat. The Daley-FOP circle jerk keeps Marky Mark D. and the FLOP Muzak Factory's hands busy 24-7, so it's no mystery why we haven't had a current contract in over 28 months.
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