Thursday, November 19, 2009

Police Board on the Hot Seat

  • The civilian Chicago police board responsible for disciplining officers has backed the police superintendent's recommendations for terminating officers only 37 percent of the time, though the city's top cop has recommended firings in 97 percent of the cases, according to the report by the Chicago Justice Project, which advocates public access to justice-related information.
Then an aldercreature wants them to explain themselves:
  • Chicago’s disciplinary board for police officers would have to explain its votes for the first time and would see its compensation slashed under an ordinance introduced today by Ald. Robert Fioretti (2nd).

    Fioretti is reacting to a recently released report by the Chicago Justice Project that showed four of the Chicago Police Board’s nine members missed more than 20 percent of the board’s meetings over the last decade.

    “They get stale serving on these boards,” Fioretti said. “They look at it as a place to show up and get a paycheck. The board needs fresh blood.”

Funny he should mention "fresh blood." We've been getting quite a few reports that "fresh blood" is going to be the least of the Police Board's problems in short order. And remember, the entire Board is appointed by one person - there are no layers of insulation between him and them.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

“They get stale serving on these boards,” Fioretti said. “They look at it as a place to show up and get a paycheck. The board needs fresh blood.”

can say the same about the alderwhores

11/19/2009 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THIS JUST IN: CHICAGO POLICE RESPONSIBLE FOR STUDENTS BASHING EACH OTHER IN THE HEAD WITH WOODEN PLANKS!!!

Derrion Albert's Mother Subpoenas City
Updated: Thursday, 22 Oct 2009, 9:26 PM CDT
Published : Thursday, 22 Oct 2009, 7:47 PM CDT

Sun-Times News Group Wire

Chicago - The mother of Derrion Albert, the Fenger Academy High School honor student who was beaten to death near the South Side school last month, filed a petition Thursday asking the city to provide 911 recordings and any other materials regarding the teen's murder that would help prove her case against the city.

An-Janette Albert filed a subpoena for protective order in Cook County Circuit court that would preserve all police communications regarding the Sept. 24 murder, including audiotapes; radio communications; photographs; police reports; interview notes and written statements. The city is named as the sole defendant in the filing.

The subpoena aims to provide An-Janette Albert's lawyers with the materials needed to "prove their case," according to the petition. A lawsuit has not yet been filed in Derrion Albert's slaying.

11/19/2009 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ot
foxchicago

26CAL fake bomb left on PO's car

11/19/2009 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need "fresh blood" in the city's aldermanic positions, dump them all including the midget. They have ran this city into the ground. #1 ranked worst city in America, how can they hold their heads high.

11/19/2009 12:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

keep making those arrests

11/19/2009 01:45:00 AM  
Blogger Ultimate Tactical Warrior said...

Hello out there fellow Gang and Tact warriors!

SCC and Alder-creature Fuggedabouddit should lay off on the board. After all, they gave me my job, and my life back.

A couple of years ago at Home Country Buffet, I open-handed stunned this 80-year old broad, about thirty times, in the face. She had cut in front of me in line and I was right to do it.

That incident led to I.A.D. starting an investigation into my hobby of hunting and mutilating farm animals when vacationing on furlough up in Wisconsin.

The board asked me what I would do if I got my job back and I replied, "The world is full of chaos, and it is my job to chop chaos's head off with a machete and shove a mace grenade up its ass!"

They all just looked at each other and shrugged. One of them flipped a coin in the air, I called "heads" and now I'm back on duty, cruising in my police cruiser and punching out farm cows on my vacation time.

Anyhoo, take care out there, fellow gang and tactical Delta Force warriors.

Ultimate Tactical Warrior tactical tip of the day #3478-

When talking to civilians that don't know any better at a social function, it's okay to tell them that because you work on either gang, tac, cobra strike force, msf, tru, etc. that you make more money then the cops driving around wearing those funny blue shirts.

11/19/2009 02:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Compliments to J-Fed on his handling of the Michael Scott caper, very professional and officious.

Too bad he didn't exercise this prudence with Bill Cozzi.

11/19/2009 03:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The "Police Board Scandal" has developed legs in a multitude of directions and has the potential to sink Da Mayor.

They are in full damage control mode right now, will J-Fed be compliant???

11/19/2009 03:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How much I gottas pay?

11/19/2009 03:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who did the "G" grab? What did they say and where are they now?

11/19/2009 03:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Board should explain themsleves. Its a good thing! Then we will all see how the IAd rats try to ram it up a hard working coppers tail. Oh pleeeze make them explain. Then they have to be legit . Not saying that are not legit but this forces them to look at the facts and not anything else. They are mostly comprised of lawyers and they have rules to follow or their license is at stake! Finally an aldercreature with some balls actually shaking it up.

11/19/2009 03:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone really believe this is about their termination rate?

How about the disparity in termination, those with clout and money and those without who are terminated or receive major time for minor infractions.

11/19/2009 04:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“They get stale serving on these boards,” Fioretti said. “They look at it as a place to show up and get a paycheck. The board needs fresh blood.”

Sounds exactly like the city council. Thanks for putting it so eloquently, Bob!

11/19/2009 06:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THEY get stale serving on these boards? Man, did he step into it. If that's not a perfect description of the City Council, I don't know what is.

If the police board is "stale" then the Council needs an enema and a fucking transfusion!


---not a cop

11/19/2009 07:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Curious Minds Wanna Know said...

SCC said...
"We've been getting quite a few reports that "fresh blood" is going to be the least of the Police Board's problems in short order."


Okay, SCC. You peaked our interest.

NOW SPILL THE BEANS!

What you talkin, bout, Willis?

11/19/2009 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bob Fioretti made his millions suing the CPD. He owns a civil rights firm and has billboards up all over his ward. First he sues, then he votes on the settlement, and now he's fishing for reasons to sue again. Criminals.....all of them.

11/19/2009 07:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now is the time for the FOP to send out individual no confidence ballots regarding Weis. If they do not do this, we are doomed.

11/19/2009 07:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will the corruption ever stop?

11/19/2009 07:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this guy gets a contract before we do, I will for the first time in 24 years, ecourage and participate in a blue flu job action.

11/19/2009 07:44:00 AM  
Blogger Big City Police (Ret.) said...

Hmmm? Let's see. Is that a paid position? If so, I'll do it. I can use a part-time gig. And you better believe that 37% termination average would change! (yeah, to 11%, wink, wink)

And I can use a couple more pensions too!

Oh, wait. They do have free parking where they meet, right?

11/19/2009 07:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the past the Superintendent did not send as many cases to the Board. He sent only slam bang cases to them. Cases that everyone agreed should be fired. With recent administrations the Supt.s have taken the easy out and sent cases that they didn't want to have on their desk but didn't require firing. Rather than be stand up and actually give 4 or 5 month suspensions the Supt. Left it to the board. The board looking at these cases had no choice but to suspend the officer and return them rather than seperate them. The Board has probably done a good job. They have also deflected the heat from the Supt who didn't have the balls to do what he should have.

11/19/2009 07:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think shortshanks is loosing it again. Yesterday he trots out his dead son again. What's next, dragging out Maggie and her heroic battle with cancer? Then it will be a trip to Europe or Asia to visit a sister city for some made up reason. It think he is beginning to feel the heat.

11/19/2009 08:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Supt recommends firing*

Police Board investigates and does not agree with recommendation*

It's called Checks & Balances*

Soemthing alderfucks have no knowledge of

11/19/2009 08:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just a way for the Aldercreatures to get back at us for starting the petition to get rid have the numbnuts!

More smoke and mirrors!

The dumb news media eats up the latest deflection from the real news and that is the corruption at City hall and Mc Pier!

This guy should be more worried about why Shitcago is loosing valuable conventions to Las Vegas and Orlando! Not important enough for these bozos!

11/19/2009 09:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Kill All The Lawyers . . . said...

KEY WORDS ON DERION ALBERTS CASE:

"to provide An-Janette Albert's lawyers"

Once again, LAWYERS promising payouts to the peons...

LAWYERS are the pond scum of the earth!

11/19/2009 09:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The board has been FUBAR for decades, regardless of who sits on it. In regards to Fioretti, he cut his teeth DEFENDING Chicago Coppers on civil rights beefs, and fought very hard on our behalf.

11/19/2009 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perhaps the Board actually sees the stupidity of many of the Dept's recommendations to separate officers? Just a thought...

11/19/2009 09:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IAD has a seperation unit within the advocates office, All separation cases go to the corp counsel's office for their opinion. Then the ADS of IAD and the supt. has to sign off on them . The supt. cannot suspend for lengthy terms so the cases are sent to the board for them to impose large suspensions. You really need to read the corp counsel's opinion on whether separation is called for. You will find that many times it is not and the case still goes to the board.

11/19/2009 09:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not a cop, but there is no way any cop or fireman or paramedic should take a furlough day. The jobs you perform on a daily basis are different than sitting in a heated or air conditioned office. Sorry for the rant but that is my opinion.

11/19/2009 10:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of aldercreatures:


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-aldermen-payroll19nov19,0,1560541,full.story

11/19/2009 10:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Bob Fioretti made his millions suing the CPD. He owns a civil rights firm...

11/19/2009 07:36:00 AM
Anonymous said...
... In regards to Fioretti, he cut his teeth DEFENDING Chicago Coppers on civil rights beefs, and fought very hard on our behalf.

11/19/2009 09:47:00 AM
Actually, he worked both sides of the street........

11/19/2009 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why is the sup recommending firing in 97 percent of cases that go before the police board--- i can understand this if the person pissed hot or committed a crime and was convicted of it--- many of these cases are easily settled by a suspension and a return to duty for the officer which is why only 37 percent are actually fired... the real drama is the fact that the officer was dragged thru the mud and has a brick on him for the rest of his career... the sup has your back 200 percent, BULLSHIT, he has his own back 200 percent and wouldn't lift a finger to help you out--- you know what's really stale, that alderman who is under federal indictment who is sitting on the police and fire commission with full pay and benefits--- who is going to recommend he get fired...

11/19/2009 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think there should be a law that makes the aldercreatures explain the votes they make!

11/19/2009 10:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fioretti is a treacherous asshole who hates the police and will burn a cop in a second. He tries to come off as your friend but is a hater of the police. I know, he was older then me, but we grew up together in Roseland and my brothers and cousins went to Mendel High School with him. Word is that Daley is going to bring back young Patrick and bestow Fioretti's alderman's spot on young Patrick and move Fioretti to a Congressman's spot or something comparable.

Lately, whenever you see Daley, Fioretti is right up his behind and a spokesman endorsing the Mayor's policies. I wouldn't be surprised if he was being groomed to be the next mayor sometime down the line.

11/19/2009 10:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is this Fioretti guy. What an asshole! He has to be a southsider!

11/19/2009 11:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I think shortshanks is loosing it again. Yesterday he trots out his dead son again. What's next, dragging out Maggie and her heroic battle with cancer? Then it will be a trip to Europe or Asia to visit a sister city for some made up reason. It think he is beginning to feel the heat.

11/19/2009 08:24:00 AM

And in todays scum times another daley nephew involved in more theft! Fucking daley what a coward! where is old boy patrick? moscow> hiding from the feds? what does paddy boy know?

11/19/2009 11:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Compliments to J-Fed on his handling of the Michael Scott caper, very professional and officious.

Too bad he didn't exercise this prudence with Bill Cozzi.

11/19/2009 03:17:00 AM

After what he did to COZZI,a copper! mike scott was on the criminal rise compliments of napoleon daley! to bad so sasd no loss to us or the city,but i would guess the feds lost a big part of an investigation into the daley corruption machine!

11/19/2009 11:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Compliments to J-Fed on his handling of the Michael Scott caper, very professional and officious.

Too bad he didn't exercise this prudence with Bill Cozzi.

11/19/2009 03:17:00 AM
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officious? lol

11/19/2009 11:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/11/friends-family-fund-for-chicago-aldermen.html

11/19/2009 11:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Now is the time for the FOP to send out individual no confidence ballots regarding Weis. If they do not do this, we are doomed.

11/19/2009 07:39:00 AM

As soon as we have a no confidence vote regarding the Fop.

11/19/2009 11:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“They get stale serving on these boards,” Fioretti said. “They look at it as a place to show up and get a paycheck. The board needs fresh blood.”


The pot calling the kettle black. The aldercreatures only show up to to steal! The City Council needs a blood transfusion!

11/19/2009 12:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These comments regarding discipline (or lack thereor) come from a member of a body who has seen a higher percentage of it's members go to jail or under indictment than any other political of it's type IN THE WORLD.

I hate politicians, but especially Grandstanding Politicians.

What ever happened to due process? The laws regarding Police discipline in Illinois were set up just do people like the esteemed Aldermen can't have a guy fired over trumped up charges because they wrote their buddy a ticket.

GFY---all of you. Vote them all out, especially Ed Smith in '11.

11/19/2009 12:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the past the Superintendent did not send as many cases to the Board. He sent only slam bang cases to them. Cases that everyone agreed should be fired. With recent administrations the Supt.s have taken the easy out and sent cases that they didn't want to have on their desk but didn't require firing. Rather than be stand up and actually give 4 or 5 month suspensions the Supt. Left it to the board. The board looking at these cases had no choice but to suspend the officer and return them rather than seperate them. The Board has probably done a good job. They have also deflected the heat from the Supt who didn't have the balls to do what he should have.

11/19/2009 07:48:00 AM

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Anyone who has done something that warrants a 4 to 5 month suspension should be fired.

11/19/2009 12:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did anyone ever think that the police board, may have its hand pushed, by the powers that be to make the wrong choice. JK from 010should not have been fired. Im hearing he was to be made an example of for going to the press and pushing Then ADS Kirby around.

11/19/2009 01:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who cares what the termination rate is? its certain that the odds of getting terminated are directly related to who you know versus whether you deserve it. just the way things work in the city of daleyville.

11/19/2009 01:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the days of yore, Officers who became the attention of the Police Board would go to sit in the front row of a famous PBRevrund. If his "donation" was accepted, he was exonerated.

So, what's changed?

11/19/2009 02:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love the ultimate tactical warrior! He always has me laughing

11/19/2009 03:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the Supt. should explain why in all these cases these officers deserve to be fired!

Maybe this dumbass doesnt even know what constitutes a termination offense!

Maybe he votes to terminate if an officer drives without a beat tag...just saying!

11/19/2009 03:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Board is probably tired of getting these cases that they have to do clean up on. No balls Weiss sends these cases over knowing damn well that they were poorly looked into or the investigators were sicked on the coppers by such folks as ADS DK and company....
The Board decided Cozzi should be back and Weiss and company destroyed him and his family.
Remember this all of you we would need to pry out of Weiss's ass if he stopped fast enough.

11/19/2009 03:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, you are correct. Who can forget the Rev. Daniels who was on the police board? He brought back a lot of officers who were on the chopping block. The watch commanders and DC in 007 owed a lot to him.

11/19/2009 06:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JK from 010 is,was and will always be a goof. Best of luck.

11/19/2009 07:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Police Board should not exist. They are slamming everybody now just to make themselves look legit. FOP should boycott the Police Board and save money on legal defense and just take everything to Circuit Court.Now they off everybody to save money on the payroll for J-Bitch and to try to justify their existance. Fioretti is right, they are hand picked shitheads and they have to go now.

11/19/2009 08:34:00 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

Tribune reports on aldermen's fund:

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/11/friends-family-fund-for-chicago-aldermen.html

11/19/2009 10:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“They get stale serving on these boards,” Fioretti said. “They look at it as a place to show up and get a paycheck. The board needs fresh blood.”

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The City Council needs to be replaced with fresh (non daley related) blood. They suffer from anemia in the worst way.

While you're at it, get rid of that brain dead fucker who calls himself mayor. He's beyond stale. Putrid would be a more appropriate description for him.

11/19/2009 10:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JK from 010 is,was and will always be a goof. Best of luck.

11/19/2009 07:50:00 PM

That is your opinion, we all have them. I just don't think you would be that tuff in real life. No! I know, you would not be that tuff nor say it to his face. However, if you are interested I can arrange a meeting. Happy Holidays officer.

11/20/2009 08:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So how do we get a copy of what the corp counsel's opinion is?
Is is public freedom of info?

11/20/2009 03:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In years past the IAD recommended a 30 day suspension for me. The Police Board,looked at the case and ruled that I not get even a day.They were fair and I appreciated the fact that there were civilians there that knew when you were getting the shaft and would not allow it.Do not be to critical of those folks they are not your enemies.

Retired Sergeant

11/20/2009 10:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I love the ultimate tactical warrior! He always has me laughing

11/19/2009 03:51:00 PM
signed the entire ultimate wack bore rior fan club all two of them

11/21/2009 02:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Board is a group comprised of mostly lawyers and many of them with asa experience.
They see thru the bs that is sent to them and are fair..

11/21/2009 04:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Chicago Justice Project has a bunch of police board files on their website along with disciplinary records. Who allowed that information released?

11/21/2009 02:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Board is a group comprised of mostly lawyers and many of them with asa experience.
They see thru the bs that is sent to them and are fair..

11/21/2009 04:16:00 AM

Not true, only one of the attorneys on the Police Board is a practicing trial attorney. There are other attorneys on the board but they do not have trial attorney experience or ASA experience.

There is one former PO who is a dentist, one Reverend and two business owners on the Police Board; the remaining five members are licensed attorneys, one being an experienced trial attorney.

11/22/2009 11:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well you are wrong Velcich and Bopp are former asa's with cook county. And there is one other with asa experience.

11/24/2009 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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Anyone who has done something that warrants a 4 to 5 month suspension should be fired.

11/19/2009 12:48:00 PM

I want you to remember your statment next time you fuck up at your job and the powers that be decide to hang you out to dry for some minor nonsense or some politically overblown bullshit.....oh wait, you're not a policeman.....thats right.....you'll never know so GFY and go back to stocking boxes idiot and save your wisdom for some schmucks at your job.

11/24/2009 05:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone who makes a comment like the one by the numnuts that said you should be fired if you should get 5 months suspension, has obviously never been screwed by the IAD or IPRA (OPS).
If you are gettinig many complaints as a result of police work , you make bosses like KIRBY and company nervous.
If you make arrests, do warrants, inventory a lot of weapons, you make them nervous. You must be dirty. So what that you have no money beefs, no brutality beefs, nothing like the flag raisers. You cant possibly be doing a legit job day in and day out.
Well here is a revelation: YES YOU CAN!
Thank God there is a Board that can see thru some of the bs cases that were sustained even before being investigated.
Pray for our fellow officers who are down and need help.
And finally, remember that today someone else tomorrow your turn to be screwed. We expect it from the Loevy and Loevys of the world but when our own do it to us, it really stings...
God Bless Bill Cozzi, remember him when you are at dinner WITH YOUR FAMILY!

11/25/2009 09:00:00 PM  

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