Damn Those Drunk Captains
Mayor Richard Daley has asked aldermen to approve five-year contracts with Chicago police captains and lieutenants that include new language on alcohol testing.
The agreements do not cover wage increases, but they do call for random alcohol testing and say that captains or lieutenants who discharge their weapons will be subject to mandatory drug and alcohol testing, according to a statement from the mayor's office. The testing will be done after all shootings, including on- and off-duty.
Virginia Drozd, president of the captains association, said the terms demanded by the city are “standing operating procedure” in other big-city departments.
“If you were an engineer on a train or a pilot on a plane that crashed, you’d have to submit to drug and alcohol testing. I’m not saying I like it. But, it wasn't so unreasonable that we thought it was a dealbreaker,” she said.
- Chicago Police officers are arrested for DUI at a far lower rate than drivers as a whole. Thirteen officers were charged with DUI in 2008 — about one in 1,000 officers — compared to about one in 125 in the general population.
Labels: contract stuff, media
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
119 Comments:
OFF TOPIC SORT OF:IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE DOWN TO 5 ONE MAN CARS AND NO WAGON ON 1ST WATCH IN 007!THIS IS REALLY DANGEROUS AND UNACCEPTABLE!ENGLEWOOD IS SUPER FAST AND VERY VIOLENT!WE NEED MORE CARS NOT LESS!PLEASE SEND HELP COMMANDER OR 35TH STREET!WE ALREADY HAD AN OFFICER KILLED IN 007 LAST YEAR AND WE DONT WANT TIT TO HAPPEN AGAIN!IN THE NAME OF ALEX VALADEZ PLEASE GET US FULLY STAFFED!THANK U!EVERYONE BE SAFE
The rate of cops being caught DUI is much higher than 1 per one thousand. We haven't had 13,000 sets of boots an the streets in I don't know when. Maybe under Tim O'Conner... Now more to the point is the percentage of aldercreatures dui is well over 250% if you count repeat offenders. Accept this stipulation to the contract as soon as the aldercreatures do, and the pay raises for both groups are equal.
And you can thank them fucking sellouts for approving the contract that includes having to pass a power test and financial check. Lets be serious, the days of a field Lt being on the street are about as real as a Tim Burton movie. I will never get the golden ticket because taking the power test may kill me. Once again fuck you!!!
I love how the supervisors declined their raises in their contract unless PO's get one in their contract. So once again our union does the heavy lifting and they reap the benefits.
What will happen to Captain Morgan?
He drinks like a fish!
(sarcasm) Ah, another group of white shirts making wonderful informed decisions that will eventually effect the blueshirts. Talk about a slippery fuckin' slope. How about I'm sittin' on my porch kickin' back a few beers. It's later at night and it's time to walk the dog real quick for his nightly dump. As I'm doing this, neighborhood shithead comes up and decides he wants to rob me at knife point. In reasonable fear for my life, I pull my pistol and send said piece of shit to the morgue. Everything I did was perfectly legal and appropriate but now with this piss test bullshit, the department has ammunition to use against me when they decide to appease the media or some dipshit reverend. Instead of letting the totality of the investigation dictate the necessity of alcohol tests, it now becomes a knee jerk reaction and will be the focus of any conclusion.
These cowards fucked us, they already got their money.
The bigger news bit is that they get no more % raise than we MIGHT. What if we get zero?
Off Topic...but interesting
There has been some question about the whereabouts of the Mayor's son Patrick. He is supposed to be in the U.S. Army. He is suppose to have enlisted but actually it is because they caught up to him because of his enlistment committment he made when he entered the United States Military Academy to stay out of jail for that baseball bat battery in Michigan event.
On a previous posting it was suggested that we check You-Tube for: "Billy Dec" "Red Scquare" and "Patrick Daley".
I did that and it came up with a homemade 2:50 homemade video of some Ameriocan guys walking through Red Square on September 24,2009. One of them is said to be Patrick Daley, and this is for Rocket Ranch Productions. Can anyone look at this and say this guy is or is not Son of Shortshanks for sure.
O.T. - The Supt. needs to know when members receive a complimentary letter for their personnel file the member often never sees it. It may get put in the member's file, but most of the time the member never sees the letter. It may seem trivial, but when a citizen gives an officer a compliment the least the department should do is let the officer see the letter!
does anyone from 011 (current or past) remember this roid-head jagoff??
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/01/ex-cop-pleads-guilty-to-selling-stolen-rifle.html
"HICCUP"!!!!!!
Off topic: Weis is on the ABC morning broadcast now playing fast and loose with the numbers.
if you dont think we are eventually going to have to agree to this you are crazy
This makes absolutely no sense. Isn't there a crime or 2 that needs to be solved, a supt search that needs to be conducted or contract negotiation these people could be talking about instead??? This city is shit! Enough already.
O.T. - The Supt. needs to know when members receive a complimentary letter for their personnel file the member often never sees it. It may get put in the member's file, but most of the time the member never sees the letter. It may seem trivial, but when a citizen gives an officer a compliment the least the department should do is let the officer see the letter!
1/14/2010 04:43:00 AM
your commander is the idiot. The letters go to him/her and they are suposed to give you a copy.
The 5th floor wants to set a precedent so shanks can test PO's then tell an arbiter that the brass does so why not the serfs.
Good thing they actually believe there are 13,000 +/- PO's or else it would throw off the ratio.
This is a message to dillaf---the handwriting is on the wall. Quit yer bitchin' and get in shape, or deal with the fact that you'd rather be an out of shape Sgt. than be promoted to Lt.
Psst...the Jim Beam & styro cups are in the lower right hand drawer of the W.C.'s desk. You may move them to the left hand drawer, if left handed. No spillage allowed. Be sure & put them back before I get to work.
I'm wondering how all merited lts and of course capts. (which is purely merit) they will pass a power test. By the time someone is able to be promoted on this job, you are well into your late forties and early 50's. Since this will be a requirement, are they going to offer training and fitness classess geared to helping these people pass a power test? What they should be concerned about is can this person be fair, be a good leader and an excellent manager and is psychologically sound? Not too many captains are out running after suspects and jumping fences. Not too many lts are involved in this running after the bad guy. Why didn't these knuckleheads in the union settle for a medical exam to make sure the ol ticker is ready for the stress. Get real.
I love how the supervisors declined their raises in their contract unless PO's get one in their contract. So once again our union does the heavy lifting and they reap the benefits.
1/14/2010 12:31:00 AM
YEAH WE WOULD BE A LOT BETTER OFF IF THIER UNION EXCEPTED A 1% RAISE BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE A 75 MAN UNION AAND THATS THE BEST THEY COULD GET. YOUR A GOOF IF THEY GOT MORE THEY ARE ASSES IF THEY ASK FOR LESS THEY ARE ASSES, MAKE UP YOUR MINDS.
J-CLOWN was on the news programs this morning. Between 6 and 7 AM, he was on Channels 5, 7 and 2, respectively.
He surely did play fast and loose with the numbers. He used September 2009 as an example of no homicides in locations where his new strategy was employed.
Not a one of them asked him to explain further. Were there homicides in places where and when his new strategy was not deployed? What about October, November and December 2009? He got a free pass to talk his numbers, percentages and strategy crap.
Although, Susan Carlson of Channel 2 did ask him if we were ready for a disaster like the earthquake in Haiti, but she did not hold his feet to the fire. She let J-FED quickly mumble some bullshit and there was no follow-up question.
But, why the media blitz? What is the significance of today's date, Thursday, 14 January 2010 for the J-FED? Because it is close to his second, and hopefully last, anniversary? Or what?
Face it, SCC and cops who read this blog: this day has been marching here to the CPD for some time. It's already 'standard operational procedure' in many progressive PDs and in the Military, so Capt. Drozd is correct. Even if you're over the limit, if the shooting is justifiable, you're not going to jail, and that's the IMPORTANT thing! For those out there that like to get loaded regularly, it's your wake up call.
Divide and conquer... one union, all cops
There is language that if you are intoxicated and shoot someone in a justified shooting, you cannot be discipline for the drinking. This helps the person who is coming home from a wedding or other event and is a victim. No discipline if only the wrong doing is the alcohol consumption.
DIVIDE AND CONQUER! ITS BEEN WORKING FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS! CPTS AND LTS NEED TO BE SLAPPED FOR NOT GETTING BEHIND THE RANK AND FILE! DALEY SAW THE "SWEAT" ON THEIR FOREHEADS AND THEN THEY "BLINKED!" TWO SIGNS YOU ARE "WEAK!" SURROUNDED BY RATS, BACK STABBING RATS!
THE FIRE DEPT ALREADY STARTED THIS RANDOM ALCOHOL TESTING--- THE REAL STORY HERE IS THAT THE MAYOR IS PUSHING FOR A 5 YEAR DEAL--- WHY ???, BECAUSE WHEN THIS CONTRACT FINALLY GETS SETTLED IT WILL EXPIRE IN 6/11... DALEY MAY BE DECIDING TO RUN AGAIN AND DOESN'T WANT ANOTHER SLUGFEST WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN AN ELECTION YEAR--- THUS, A 5 YEAR DEAL PUSHES IT TO 6/12.... DALEY HAS BEEN VERY CONCILIATORY LATELY IN HIS REMARKS REGARDING THE PARKING METERS AND MCCORMICK PLACE--- YOU WANT A 5 YEAR DEAL, NO PROBLEM, JUST TACK ON 5 YEARS WORTH OF RAISES THAT ADEQUATELY REFLECT COST OF LIVING INCREASES....
Talk about a slippery fuckin' slope. How about I'm sittin' on my porch kickin' back a few beers. It's later at night and it's time to walk the dog real quick for his nightly dump. As I'm doing this, neighborhood shithead comes up and decides he wants to rob me at knife point.
No worry here. We walk the pooch as a tag team and refrain from downing hooch. Model supervisors are we.
>>>>Anonymous said...
O.T. - The Supt. needs to know when members receive a complimentary letter for their personnel file the member often never sees it. It may get put in the member's file, but most of the time the member never sees the letter. It may seem trivial, but when a citizen gives an officer a compliment the least the department should do is let the officer see the letter!
1/14/2010 04:43:00 AM<<<
If a citizen send the Department a complimentary letter you are not only supposed to get a copy of it but also a copy of the form letter signed by the superintendent back to the writer.
Over the years I have received a few complimentary letters, in one case I didn't get one that a group of cops got because my name was badly misspelled.
But the best are the one that were sent directly to me, not to the superintendent, wherever I was serving. I value those more than any commendation and have kept all of them.
Stay safe, as they use to say on the Lawrence Welk show, "Thank-you for your cards and letters."
Isn't it "standard" operating proceedures? More unnecessary proof that our command staff are a bunch of fuck-tards!
dilligaf said...
And you can thank them fucking sellouts for approving the contract that includes having to pass a power test and financial check. Lets be serious, the days of a field Lt being on the street are about as real as a Tim Burton movie. I will never get the golden ticket because taking the power test may kill me. Once again fuck you!!!
1/14/2010 12:15:00 AM
Pick up the General Orders, push away from the table, talk a walk around the block once in a while and stop whining.
What makes you think I want a supervisor who is fat, drunk and stupid? It's no way to go through life, son.
so a guy who goes to work everyday is subject to random alcohol and drug testing---- so a guy who doesn't work and never has gets a check from the government with no stipulations attached--- time for all the welfare cheats to also be subject to random drug testing-- you piss hot no check--- if we have to so should they.....
To Capt Drozd : I think the airline pilot and train engineer have to consent to an autopsy?
"Anonymous said...
I love how the supervisors declined their raises in their contract unless PO's get one in their contract. So once again our union does the heavy lifting and they reap the benefits.
1/14/2010 12:31:00 AM"
Without trying to start an argument, I am afraid that you don't understand what is going on here. The raises were not declined; if we ever get any they will be equal across the board.
The alcohol testing is something that would be a "no-win" in arbitration. Just check that out with almost any other police department or even CTA or Metra. They all have it and it would not be worth the expense to fight something that would be a certain loss.
MAN TALK ABOUT A DO NOTHING UNION!
THE LT.& CAPT FIND THIS ACCEPTABLE?
CONTRACTS COME EVERY 5 YEARS (NEW NUMBER)AND THE BEST THEY CAN DO IS PUT IN A CLAUSE THAT STATES WE WILL TAKE WHAT YOU GIVE THE BLUE SHIRTS!?!
WHAT DO THEY DO WITH ALL THAT MONEY??? INVEST IT AND PUT IT BACK W/ NO INTEREST?
HOW ABOUT DEMANDING TO BE SENT TO THE FBI CLOWN COLLEGE OR THE INSTITUTE OF TICKET WRITING!
HOW ABOUT GRADING OF PROMOTIONS IMMEDIATELY AFTER IT IS TAKEN.
ASK 4 LAPTOPS EVERY FEW YEARS AND BLACKBERRIES? 4 KEEPS!
ASK TO BE SENT TO THOSE PLAY COLLEGES ON DUTY (OOPS I FORG0T THEY DO THAT ALREADY).
GIVE THESE MOPES SOME MANAGEMENT TRAINING. I WOULDNT LET THEM RUN A LEMONADE STAND LET ALONE A DISTRICT.
AND WHATS THE POINT OF CHECKING THEIR CREDIT?
HALF OF THEM HAVE BEEN DIVORCED AND THAT SCREWS UP UR CREDIT!
WHAT IS THE MAGICAL CREDIT SCORE THEY ARE USING TO SAY UR CREDIT IS BAD. MINORITIES WILL BE GREATLY AFFECTED?
DO YOU THINK J-FED CAN PASS THE POWER TEST? IF HE HAD SOME BALLS HE WOULD DO IT ON VIDEO JUST TO SHOW HE IS A BAD ASS.
EVEN THOU HIS AGE BRACKET IS THE ONE THAT A PREGNANT WOMAN COULD PASS!!!
SHOULD THESE WHITE SHIRT GO ON THE MEDICAL WHEN THEY ARE HUNG OVER?
"IM STILL BUZZED FROM THE XMAS PARTY SO I WILL NOT COME IN TO WORK"
START YOUR OWN FOP, YOU HAVE ALL THOSE MANAGEMENT GENIUSES THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO CRAFT A WONDERFUL CONTRACT.... YEA RIGHT
Cannot drink 4 hours before shift! How about 12 hours so all the alcohol leaves their drunken ass? Who gives a shit the sellouts want to be like firemen with the "me to clause" no backbone spineless associations!
I will never get the golden ticket because taking the power test may kill me.
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If you are that out of shape that you can't pass the power test, chances are you are going to die from cardiovascular disease soon anyway.
People, if you want to screw over the city, I mean really screw the city, what you want to do is retire, AND COLLECT YOUR PENSION FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. You do that by STAYING HEALTHY AND ALIVE FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.
Fitness is not just for "hair jels."
This goes to show that ALL of the CPD should be under one union representative. Its been divide and conquer all this time.
Once the Sgts. are finished decertifying their union the Lts. and Capts should do like-wise.
Greater strength in numbers.
Anonymous said...
OFF TOPIC SORT OF:IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE DOWN TO 5 ONE MAN CARS AND NO WAGON ON 1ST WATCH IN 007!THIS IS REALLY DANGEROUS AND UNACCEPTABLE!ENGLEWOOD IS SUPER FAST AND VERY VIOLENT!WE NEED MORE CARS NOT LESS!PLEASE SEND HELP COMMANDER OR 35TH STREET!WE ALREADY HAD AN OFFICER KILLED IN 007 LAST YEAR AND WE DONT WANT TIT TO HAPPEN AGAIN!IN THE NAME OF ALEX VALADEZ PLEASE GET US FULLY STAFFED!THANK U!EVERYONE BE SAFE
1/14/2010 12:13:00 AM
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You hack, have you no shame? Invoking the name of a dead PO to make your point? Alex's murder had noting to do with manpower. Your concerns may be valid but using a dead man's name to further your agenda is low class. The department is short everywhere, Englewood doesn't deserve manpower more than any other district. By the way I work in 007.
Maybe everyone should read the entire contract. If you have been involved in a shooting and it is a good shoot, the fact that you have been drinking CANNOT be held against you. Contract beats out General Orders, Rules & Regs., etc. They may have conceded, but they also got something in return. They ain't as stupid as we think!
does anyone from 011 (current or past) remember this roid-head jagoff??
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/01/ex-cop-pleads-guilty-to-selling-stolen-rifle.html
Yes there are still a handful of us now "old timers" still here in fillmore
The bigger news bit is that they get no more % raise than we MIGHT. What if we get zero?
Then cry me a river. They make way more money than any blue shirt so if their life style takes a hit I'll remember to shed a tear when I'm telling the wife we can't afford a vacation this year.
Off Topic...but interesting
There has been some question about the whereabouts of the Mayor's son Patrick. He is supposed to be in the U.S. Army. He is suppose to have enlisted but actually it is because they caught up to him because of his enlistment committment he made when he entered the United States Military Academy to stay out of jail for that baseball bat battery in Michigan event.
On a previous posting it was suggested that we check You-Tube for: "Billy Dec" "Red Scquare" and "Patrick Daley".
I did that and it came up with a homemade 2:50 homemade video of some Ameriocan guys walking through Red Square on September 24,2009. One of them is said to be Patrick Daley, and this is for Rocket Ranch Productions. Can anyone look at this and say this guy is or is not Son of Shortshanks for sure.
1/14/2010 02:55:00 AM
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It sure looks like Patrick Daley, and he looks to have put on some weight to me and Billy Dec is still a douche. If you google Patrick Daley his facebook page appears as the fourth link on the results page and it says that he's from Russia and not Chicago so I'd assume he plans on spending some considerable time away from Chicago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XLgvvXlMi4
http://www.facebook.com/people/Patrick-Daley/797043712
Anonymous said...
O.T. - The Supt. needs to know when members receive a complimentary letter for their personnel file the member often never sees it. It may get put in the member's file, but most of the time the member never sees the letter. It may seem trivial, but when a citizen gives an officer a compliment the least the department should do is let the officer see the letter!
1/14/2010 04:43:00 AM
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They scan them all in. You can view them on CLEAR.
The FOP should do what the Baltimore FOP lodge did, file suit in circuit court asking that the fire dept. N supervisors me too clause be removed because it undermines the bargaining rights of it members, wake up FOP!!!!!
Off topic, but breaking news...
And in an appropriate thread, (white shirts).
Rumor has it that the manpower shortage felt throughout the city will be exacerbated by a potential new program proposed by none other than Commander Trahanas, the uniform infraction queen.
Seems little birdies are all abuzz about the new program to have an officer stationed at the door of each bathroom, to make sure that no one brings an unauthorized sharpie into said bathroom. This will hopefully reduce the number of wet your pants, fall off the john posts that appear in said stalls. Trahanas wanted to have PODs installed, but was reminded that there was still a presumed expectation of privacy in a bathroom stall. To which she replied, "Oh".
Keep your sharpies hidden, as they will likely be subject to confiscation.
hey,those captain arent drunk....they always act stupid!
I love how the supervisors declined their raises in their contract unless PO's get one in their contract. So once again our union does the heavy lifting and they reap the benefits.
1/14/2010 12:31:00 AM
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Let's remember, the SERGEANTS did not agree to this. The sergeants REJECTED the contract offer, bigtime.
O.T. - The Supt. needs to know when members receive a complimentary letter for their personnel file the member often never sees it. It may get put in the member's file, but most of the time the member never sees the letter. It may seem trivial, but when a citizen gives an officer a compliment the least the department should do is let the officer see the letter!
1/14/2010 04:43:00 AM
your commander is the idiot. The letters go to him/her and they are suposed to give you a copy.
1/14/2010 07:10:00 AM
You can always look it up on clear. Personnel Division - Query Awards
O.T. - The Supt. needs to know when members receive a complimentary letter for their personnel file the member often never sees it. It may get put in the member's file, but most of the time the member never sees the letter. It may seem trivial, but when a citizen gives an officer a compliment the least the department should do is let the officer see the letter!
1/14/2010 04:43:00 AM
your commander is the idiot. The letters go to him/her and they are suposed to give you a copy.
1/14/2010 07:10:00 AM
Complimentary letters are scanned online to your awards folder where you can read them any time you like and you can print as many copies as you wish.
OT: Today's Slum-Times, I didn't buy it I read it at the coffee house for free, has an article about Mayor Dick, Harrison Ford, and Miegs Field. Basicly Ford said it was "unthinkable" that Dick destroyed Miegs. Dick's response was to call Ford "spoiled" and "elitist."
Mayor Dick calling someone spoiled and elitist is like Donald Trump calling Bill Gates poor.
Mayor Dick, you are the most spoiled. elitist in Shitcago!
Go tell your BS to Burke, he'll write a book about it.
"And you can thank them fucking sellouts for approving the contract that includes having to pass a power test and financial check. Lets be serious, the days of a field Lt being on the street are about as real as a Tim Burton movie. I will never get the golden ticket because taking the power test may kill me. Once again fuck you!!!
1/14/2010 12:15:00 AM"
The POWER test is ONLY if you had to take it in your previous position, then you have to continue to meet those standards. There is no requirement for financial reporting.
Anonymous said...
Off Topic...but interesting
There has been some question about the whereabouts of the Mayor's son Patrick. He is supposed to be in the U.S. Army. He is suppose to have enlisted but actually it is because they caught up to him because of his enlistment committment he made when he entered the United States Military Academy to stay out of jail for that baseball bat battery in Michigan event.
On a previous posting it was suggested that we check You-Tube for: "Billy Dec" "Red Scquare" and "Patrick Daley".
I did that and it came up with a homemade 2:50 homemade video of some Ameriocan guys walking through Red Square on September 24,2009. One of them is said to be Patrick Daley, and this is for Rocket Ranch Productions. Can anyone look at this and say this guy is or is not Son of Shortshanks for sure.
1/14/2010 02:55:00 AM
You ONLY incur a military committment if you attend a Service Academy at the beginning of your Junior year.
Patrick "Fredo" Daley left after his first year. Got his congressional appointment through Lipinski. He must have had some clout or something, maybe.
As for why he is in Moscow I don't know. He did study Russian during his four non combat years in the Army so maybe he is trying to tie the Russian mob into the Bridgeport mob.
With the heat on in Chicago he would have a difficult time trying to make a dishonest living here.
Damn media outing his city contracts and such. Bastards!
He is the Prince. Meanwhile his uncles and cousins clean up. Life just ain't fair.
i always thought a drunk captain was a happy captain. now its going to be harder to get time due i guess
This is going to happen sooner or later. ACCEPT IT!
does anyone from 011 (current or past) remember this roid-head jagoff??
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/01/ex-cop-pleads-guilty-to-selling-stolen-rifle.html
yes, his a good guy. I suggest you contact his yourself. Oh you will not will you now.
OFF TOPIC SORT OF:IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE DOWN TO 5 ONE MAN CARS AND NO WAGON ON 1ST WATCH IN 007!THIS IS REALLY DANGEROUS AND UNACCEPTABLE!ENGLEWOOD IS SUPER FAST AND VERY VIOLENT!WE NEED MORE CARS NOT LESS!PLEASE SEND HELP COMMANDER OR 35TH STREET!WE ALREADY HAD AN OFFICER KILLED IN 007 LAST YEAR AND WE DONT WANT TIT TO HAPPEN AGAIN!IN THE NAME OF ALEX VALADEZ PLEASE GET US FULLY STAFFED!THANK U!EVERYONE BE SAFE
1/14/2010 12:13:00 AM
no shit there are no cars duh?
Anonymous said...
OFF TOPIC SORT OF:IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE DOWN TO 5 ONE MAN CARS AND NO WAGON ON 1ST WATCH IN 007!THIS IS REALLY DANGEROUS AND UNACCEPTABLE!ENGLEWOOD IS SUPER FAST AND VERY VIOLENT!WE NEED MORE CARS NOT LESS!PLEASE SEND HELP COMMANDER OR 35TH STREET!WE ALREADY HAD AN OFFICER KILLED IN 007 LAST YEAR AND WE DONT WANT TIT TO HAPPEN AGAIN!IN THE NAME OF ALEX VALADEZ PLEASE GET US FULLY STAFFED!THANK U!EVERYONE BE SAFE
1/14/2010 12:13:00 AM
Have ALL officers working one man cars submit a to-from request refusing to do so for safety sake. Have the entire watch sign off on a safety grievance.
Do this every day and keep copies of all paper submitted.
Stay safe.
does anyone from 011 (current or past) remember this roid-head jagoff??
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/01/ex-cop-pleads-guilty-to-selling-stolen-rifle.html
yes, his a good guy. I suggest you contact his yourself. Oh you will not will you now.
Always an asshole roidhead, real good guy selling assault rifles to dope-dealing convicted felons? sorry sell that shit to someone else...
Do not trust Virgie. She will sell you out like harry "the hat" Holm did. In fact; she dated the hat while a sgt.(830) 12 years ago. Guess who is currently behind Virgie right now.
If the Lt/Caps get it on their contracts you can bet it will flow down to ours.
Anonymous said...
O.T. - The Supt. needs to know when members receive a complimentary letter for their personnel file the member often never sees it. It may get put in the member's file, but most of the time the member never sees the letter. It may seem trivial, but when a citizen gives an officer a compliment the least the department should do is let the officer see the letter!
1/14/2010 04:43:00 AM
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Was told by a an FBI agent he sent an email in my regard to IPRA. Rozenweig(sp) answered him an said she would forward it. He even forwarded me the email with her confirmation which I appreciated.
However I never received confirmation from the Department that they received it nor that I got credit for it.
I am not going to call him to ask him to send it to Jody nor am I going to call Rozenwieg(sp).
I just thanked him and chalked it up to STUPID ASS PEOPLE THAT DON'T GIVE A FUCK....unless it involves them!
Which is the story of my police experience anyway....
So get used to it...
14/2010 01:57:00 AM
Anonymous said...
The bigger news bit is that they get no more % raise than we MIGHT. What if we get zero?
1/14/2010 02:34:00 AM
LT/Caps will get thier money in another form under a different line item. They are selling out the rank and file; not themselves.
It is far cheaper to pay 21 caps and 478 LTs to sellout 8,100 POs and 1274 SGTs. Do the math.
I remember when captains and lieutenants used always have that sport coat with them. After roll call, go to the local watering hole for a few. Most of them were great guys and were great to work for.
old retired guy
Can anyone out there tell me when a Capt. or Lt was involved in a shooting-on or off duty- Sober or drunk. It was coming either by negotiations or by arbitrator, it was something they could have used in thier negotiations, whether they did or not I do not know. And as for the raise everyone is getting the same amount in the end it doesnt matter they voted on the 55 and out since the majority are over 50. Just look at the break down 90% of Capt's 70 % 0F lTS. ALL BASED ON THE AVERAGE AGE
To Capt Drozd : I think the airline pilot and train engineer have to consent to an autopsy?
1/14/2010 09:32:00 AM
Only if they're not dead.
Arbitrator Benn did not allow the alcohol testing for P.O.'s last time.. ..why would he give it to the city this time??????
Penny wants cameras in the bathrooms, if they had those at Area Five she would have been fired for beating that Detective up.
J-CLOWN was on the news programs this morning. Between 6 and 7 AM, he was on Channels 5, 7 and 2, respectively.
He surely did play fast and loose with the numbers. He used September 2009 as an example of no homicides in locations where his new strategy was employed.
Not a one of them asked him to explain further. Were there homicides in places where and when his new strategy was not deployed? What about October, November and December 2009? He got a free pass to talk his numbers, percentages and strategy crap.
Although, Susan Carlson of Channel 2 did ask him if we were ready for a disaster like the earthquake in Haiti, but she did not hold his feet to the fire. She let J-FED quickly mumble some bullshit and there was no follow-up question.
But, why the media blitz? What is the significance of today's date, Thursday, 14 January 2010 for the J-FED? Because it is close to his second, and hopefully last, anniversary? Or what?
1/14/2010 09:06:00 AM
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SO, in truth, THIS was the result of last week's big meeting with the media?
Weis is doing his version of the 'book tour', going around selling himself via the media.
Sounds like SOMEBODY really wants another million-dollar contract, Mr. Mayor.
Off Topic...but interesting
There has been some question about the whereabouts of the Mayor's son Patrick. He is supposed to be in the U.S. Army. He is suppose to have enlisted but actually it is because they caught up to him because of his enlistment committment he made when he entered the United States Military Academy to stay out of jail for that baseball bat battery in Michigan event.
On a previous posting it was suggested that we check You-Tube for: "Billy Dec" "Red Scquare" and "Patrick Daley".
I did that and it came up with a homemade 2:50 homemade video of some Ameriocan guys walking through Red Square on September 24,2009. One of them is said to be Patrick Daley, and this is for Rocket Ranch Productions. Can anyone look at this and say this guy is or is not Son of Shortshanks for sure.
1/14/2010 02:55:00 AM
Heard the Daley kid got kicked out of the Military for stealing. Can anyone out there confirm? Also heard he's hiding out in Russia to dodge Federal Indictments pending.
All bosses should be given a psych exam also for serving in this J-Fool administration...Reminds me of the German Prison Camp guards that "just did what they were told." Oh... and I can't wait to go to Big Bird's ultimate retirement party one day.
Captains are all appointed! True or False? There in lies the problem! Asskissers and suckasses, everyone of them! And when they retire you will all say hi to them and congratulate them on their retirement even though they don't know who you are! What a country! As soon as you slip on a white shirt you get smarter, honest! Ask any of them, its true!
Can someone explain the strength test requirement?
I SAW CAP. KANGAROO DRUNK AT THE SCENE ONCE. HE SHOT CAP. CRUNCH.
It's a story because it's election time! And bonehead Daley is working hard now because he knows the natives are restless. I had Dave Foley mail em a Christmas card, and now Stroger is saying he can save us $30m.
I'm counting down the days until these people are hopefully out of office.
Patrick "Fredo" Daley left after his first year. Got his congressional appointment through Lipinski. He must have had some clout or something, maybe.
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He said Patrick "Fredo" Daley. Oh, God, that was fucking funny!
does anyone from 011 (current or past) remember this roid-head jagoff??
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/01/ex-cop-pleads-guilty-to-selling-stolen-rifle.html
yes, his a good guy. I suggest you contact his yourself. Oh you will not will you now.
Always an asshole roidhead, real good guy selling assault rifles to dope-dealing convicted felons? sorry sell that shit to someone else...
1/14/2010 05:07:00 PM
What is the sell? You asked if anyone knew him? It is an answer to your question. I take it from your comment you are not the police. Kindly go away.
5 one man carss and no wagon
better start marching on city hall
find out how many police in the fronty office on second watch
notify the media
O.T. - The Supt. needs to know when members receive a complimentary letter for their personnel file the member often never sees it. It may get put in the member's file, but most of the time the member never sees the letter. It may seem trivial, but when a citizen gives an officer a compliment the least the department should do is let the officer see the letter!
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you can go in the cpd mainpage and find it there, you can also read it
1/14/2010 04:43:00 AM
captains are all merit
most captains were merit lieutenants
30 % of lts are merit
do the math they're in da mayors pocket
Can't drink 4 hours before duty, but after rollcall all bets are off.
I never knew my captain drank until i saw him sober!
OFF TOPIC SORT OF:IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE DOWN TO 5 ONE MAN CARS AND NO WAGON ON 1ST WATCH IN 007!THIS IS REALLY DANGEROUS AND UNACCEPTABLE!ENGLEWOOD IS SUPER FAST AND VERY VIOLENT!WE NEED MORE CARS NOT LESS!PLEASE SEND HELP COMMANDER OR 35TH STREET!WE ALREADY HAD AN OFFICER KILLED IN 007 LAST YEAR AND WE DONT WANT TIT TO HAPPEN AGAIN!IN THE NAME OF ALEX VALADEZ PLEASE GET US FULLY STAFFED!THANK U!EVERYONE BE SAFE
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I worked in oo7 during the riots for a two day detail and never forgot it, give these officers what they b=need.
It is far cheaper to pay 21 caps and 478 LTs to sellout 8,100 POs and 1274 SGTs. Do the math.
1/14/2010 05:42:00 PM
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How about doing your homework before you make a fool out of yourself.
21 Captains?
478 Lieutenants?
Where did you get your numbers from?
Just FYI, the LT's contract passed by a very slim margin. The old timers thought it was the way to go, they were dumb enough to use the argument, " well its happening in other police departments". A lot of us argued why should we give up something when they are offering us nothing? They were blinded by the 55 and out. I can see their point, but you can bet the mayor wouldn't of even offered it if it wasn't a financial gain for the city in some way.
What if I am out with my family and I have one beer. I am sure it will effect my blood alcohal level. Soemone comes into the place and starts shooting. I return fire and strike the offender or even if I miss. That means I will be subjected to testing. As a police officer I am going to try and protect my family and I am also required to do so in accordance to department policy. My inaction can cause me just as much accountability as my action. The headlines will immediatly read, Drunk cop or Cop that had been drinking shoot offender. I am in civil court for 7 years, stressed, hoping I don't loose my house and I did everything right.
The reality is that we are not allowed to drink at home or in public because ANY incident big or small, I will be held negatively accounted for! That is the reality of this shit job. No good equipment, fucked up bosses that are themselves miserable because they don't see their families and are broke because they lost a huge chunk of their salary, no contract, then the Mayor has the nerve to offer us NO raise and he pays that idiot $300,000.00 a year, he is trying to get all of us to take unpaid days (I will turn this piece of shit job over the same fucking day) and no matter what, anything negative is hilighted regarding us!
WTF
it is so obvious you dont work in 007!if you do ,u work inside!where it is safe u house mouse!
There seems to be a misconception that the city can not require us to work 99. Can someone please show me in the contract or any of the signed agreements where this is the case. I believe it was once in a Letter of Agreement that both parties would prefer 10-4 units on 1st and 3rd Watch but i was never a contractual right.
Anonymous said...
captains are all merit
most captains were merit lieutenants
30 % of lts are merit
do the math they're in da mayors pocket
Captains ARE NOT MERIT! They're even worse. As bullshit as the "merit" system is, at least someone has to put their name on paper somewhere and nominate you for a "merit" spot. The SES Captains are chosen by a semi-secret board and nobody has to own up to being their sponsor. Its all done by phone calls and whispers.......oh yeah, and the self-assessment resume the future captains fill out. Funny that its all supposed to be based on that resume and yet they manage to promote illiterate morons who cannot even speak proper english let alone read or write it. You want to see who's not a merit lieutenant just run the lts seniority list and find the people that have been lts for 10, 12, 15 years yet still can't make Captain.
Anonymous said...
does anyone from 011 (current or past) remember this roid-head jagoff??
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/01/ex-cop-pleads-guilty-to-selling-stolen-rifle.html
yes, his a good guy. I suggest you contact his yourself. Oh you will not will you now.
1/14/2010 04:42:00 PM
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shall i visit him in the federal pen or just write him a letter. what...just cuz he has no neck doesnt make him a tough guy
"...fat, drunk and stupid? It's no way to go through life, son."
Thanks for the Animal House line!
I'm still laughing!
rb
"Oh, What do you do with a drunken captin', what do you do with a drunken captin', what do you do with a drunken captin' earli in the mornin'?"
Anonymous said...
There seems to be a misconception that the city can not require us to work 99. Can someone please show me in the contract or any of the signed agreements where this is the case. I believe it was once in a Letter of Agreement that both parties would prefer 10-4 units on 1st and 3rd Watch but i was never a contractual right.
1/14/2010 11:17:00 PM
It was in a letter of agreement signed by the City after the murder of an officer killed during a traffic stop on Lake Shore Drive while working along during night time hours.
It was never in the contract, as you say, but was understood as something that would be honored. Nothing has happened that I know of since then to negate the intent of that letter of understanding.
As to where that letter is and how to get a copy, well, I just don't have that information.
This is something our FOP ought to be screaming about.
I heard not a peep of protest from FOP after PO Rick Francis was killed while working a one man car on midnights. Previously a wagon man, on the night of his death Rick was on a beat car, by himself.
Errrp. hick up. Boys.....
Ill see yaz at (hick up) last call
OOOOOPS hahahah I mean Check Off..
Your Capt.
Paaaaaaaar me a nether one I think Ill have a Schlitz!..........
"Thanks for the Animal House line. I'm still laughing." rb Does anyone know what Bears first name is?
I really do not see why so many people rush out to buy tickets for retirement parties and promotion parties for the exempt ranks ( to include captains).With all of the bad feelings these days the the allegations of rigged exams and political appointments, just stop going to any of these parties. Only attend the annual Christmas and retirement party, then organize a few of your own during the year. Why rush out to show up at some clout heavy triple merit promotee's party when you have to buy tickets . I know, more of this bullshit about " standing behind your boss" and showing up to see and be seen.
"You want to see who's not a merit lieutenant just run the lts seniority list and find the people that have been lts for 10, 12, 15 years yet still can't make Captain."
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You are 100% correct.
"Complimentary letters are scanned online to your awards folder where you can read them any time you like and you can print as many copies as you wish."
Where online do I find my "awards folder" ????????????
You hack, have you no shame? Invoking the name of a dead PO to make your point? Alex's murder had noting to do with manpower. Your concerns may be valid but using a dead man's name to further your agenda is low class. The department is short everywhere, Englewood doesn't deserve manpower more than any other district. By the way I work in 007.
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geeze buddy, I totally understood where this guy is coming from. I don't think he is using Alex as leverage, rather just looking out for officers who work in 007
Who remembers the Lt. who challenged the Sgt. to a duel on Foster Ave. in front of "Reggies" to settle the question of sexual rights to a nymphomaniac from the bar?
These guys knew how to have fun!
The fact that the city got the supervisor's unions to agree to these things can only predict of other things to come for police officers. The city always has a plan and something in the back of their minds. And, it is easier for the city to get an arbitrator to rule in their favor on an issue when other unions have accepted a certain position. There is a " whipsaw effect" in negotiations.
A post recently stated that merit promotion lists are available to see! If so, why aren't these names listed on the blog? If there is nothing to hide, whats the problem? If you "merited" the promotion then he or she should not be "embarassed!"
Who are the good Captains?
captain c we miss u on midnights!u would never let us b down 5 cars with no wagon!u cared about po safety !we miss u,u had balls 2 stand up !..1st watch 007 dist rangers!!we were never down a car until he left!po safety came 1st!!
Anonymous said...
"Complimentary letters are scanned online to your awards folder where you can read them any time you like and you can print as many copies as you wish."
Where online do I find my "awards folder" ????????????
1/15/2010 10:01:00 AM
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Are you helpless? Ask somebody at work to show you?
Anonymous said...
Who remembers the Lt. who challenged the Sgt. to a duel on Foster Ave. in front of "Reggies" to settle the question of sexual rights to a nymphomaniac from the bar?
These guys knew how to have fun!
1/15/2010 03:00:00 PM
I do remember the Lt. antagonizing a PO and challenging him to a fisticuffs. The PO asked him politely, to stop it.
It kept up and the PO knocked the Lt. out cold. The Lt. got up, drank a shot and left after stating, "I think it's time I left".
Never a word spoken of the entire episode. What occured in the gin mill stayed in the gin mill.
The Good Old Days!
For the last time, every single fucking captain is a political appointment. Nine times out of ten it's courtesy of the aldercrook, unless that aldercrook is looked at unfavorably by the Lucky Charmster himself. No test, no test, no test. The smartest guy I ever knew on the job said "There goes the beginning of the end of this job." The day they announced all Captains would be merit. Now that Lts will also be merit it should be flushed a bit faster.
"fisticuffs" That should have stayed in the gin mill with him.
Anonymous said...
captain c we miss u on midnights!u would never let us b down 5 cars with no wagon!u cared about po safety !we miss u,u had balls 2 stand up !..1st watch 007 dist rangers!!we were never down a car until he left!po safety came 1st!!
1/15/2010 11:35:00 PM
Thats not true. It is not up to the Captain, it is the fact we do not have P.O.'s here. WTF I know I want to be able to take off when I need to. So are you saying since we have no manpower, I should not get a day off? I have a life and I do want to participate in my kids events. The Captain at least makes a decision and decides that we all including him pick up the slack, allow people off and deal with the fact that this department is acting as though they don't see that the Districts are short.
Get rid of MSF that Gangs shit and TRU. Send those bodies back until we can get some more. If the Districts were fully staffed, we could do our own dirty work and keep the assholes in check. We would know who the players were and back each other up in the process! Wake up people!
Anonymous said...
Who remembers the Lt. who challenged the Sgt. to a duel on Foster Ave. in front of "Reggies" to settle the question of sexual rights to a nymphomaniac from the bar?
These guys knew how to have fun!
1/15/2010 03:00:00 PM
Hope it wasn't a "sword" fight
command staff wakes up
4th period 1 apr 10
no aprils fools joke
2nd watch captains will be assigned to 1st and 3rd watches in districts without a captain
now they will regret signing the contract to test for drinking
Anyone remember Juanita's in the deuce? I used to look forward to my days off so I could dry out! "Oh, what a night.....!" How about Brad's (Bard's) on "States" street don't you know! Tommy Nash, Bobby Barrett, etc! The night never ended! Fun, fun, fun till my daddy took my "thunderbird" away! "What's the word? /Thunderbird/ How's it sold?/ Good
and cold/What's the jive?/ Bird's alive/ What's the price?/ Thirty
twice." How about the Bowen Building? 744 Bowen, what was it before? Old school, anyone?
They might be starting with the Captatins and Lieutenants, but Sergeants and P.O.'s won't be far behind.
You have to wonder what the up side is for us here; If you get into a legitimate shooting, is the department going to back you if your BAC is 0.05%? How about 0.08% or even 0.10%? Maybe the percentage of your liability in the inevitable city payout will be tied to your BAC.
There is no BAC limit for a person on foot in Illinois, is there? If you're involved in a good shooting, what difference does your BAC make?
This will only give fodder for the "honor student's" attorney to use against you.
This is suspicious.
>>>Anonymous said...
"You want to see who's not a merit lieutenant just run the lts seniority list and find the people that have been lts for 10, 12, 15 years yet still can't make Captain."
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You are 100% correct.
1/15/2010 09:48:00 AM<<<
Right, also how about those Lieutenants whose number was passed over once or twice twice on the list for the clouted ones.
Drunk captains rock!
Have another speeder Thunderbird.
Who are the good Captains?
1/15/2010 10:24:00 PM
this, my dear, is an oxymoron.
WERE DOWN 5 CARS AND A WAGON IN 007 ON MIDNIGHTD DUE TO A MISSION TEAM BEIN STARTED UP!COME ON,CANCEL IT BOSS WE DONT HAVE THE MANPOWER AND ITS UNSAFE!WE DONT WANT TO LOSE ANOTHER OFFICER!!
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