Bipolar Media Coverage
They don't know which way to turn.
- Fox-32: FOX Chicago News has learned Streets and Sanitation workers were ordered to stop salting Lake Shore Drive around 4 a.m. Monday, about an hour before the fatal accident that killed Chicago Police Sgt. Alan Haymaker. Haymaker was driving southbound on Lake Shore Drive, exiting at Irving Park Road, when his vehicle went off the ramp and into a tree.
- Channel 7: Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis says it's time to stop placing blame for the crash that killed Sergeant Alan Haymaker. Since Monday, accusations have flown about what caused the one-car crash. Sgt. Haymaker was on his way to a burglary-in-progress call when he lost control of his squad car and crashed on Lake Shore Drive near Irving Park early Monday morning.
- Channel 5: Supt. Jody Weis on Wednesday denied allegations that a poorly repaired squad car played a role in the one-car crash Monday morning that took the life of a police sergeant. "The car was recently serviced. It had 1,000 miles on it since the service and there were no indicators that there were any complaints about that particular vehicle, so based upon what I know at this time, I would have to say that the vehicle was functioning properly," Weis said.
- Channel 2: Weis also responded angrily to persistent questions about the safety of the squad car involved in the crash. CBS 2's Suzanne Le Mignot talked with police sources who have similar concerns about vehicles used by officers. While Weis calls one post about retreaded tires being used on squad cars, "an outrageous claim", police sources we spoke to off camera said retreaded tires ARE used on police cars; and the older fleet, known as pool cars, are not maintained on a regular basis.
They know there's a story here, a big one, but they aren't sure where to approach it from.
- They have off-camera quotes from a CPD boss that the car was in no condition to be on the street.
- They have at least two Streets and San drivers on deep background saying the order to stop salting came from very high up.
- They have photographic evidence from a couple of local blogs that show Sgt. Haymaker's car went in a straight line off of LSD and hit a tree meaning this part of the Drive was probably a sheet of ice in the early morning hours.
- They have a wounded political Machine run by a weakened mayor who everyone knows (knows!!!) has been not salting major arterial streets because of his precious planter boxes.
Our biggest worry here is a Three Stooges scenario where all this information tries to get through the door and in the end, nothing gets accomplished. We have a feeling that this scenario is someone else's biggest hope.
Labels: media, officer down
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
107 Comments:
either the family or fop have to put in a civil suit plain and simple...
dont let that squad car be crushed it is evidence...
squad car video should be pulled from the units on the scene to verify the conditions.
gps should be pulled from the salt trucks... yes they have gps and log like us.
dont let the black box disappear either from the squad car!!!
SO WHO IS GOING TO DO ALL OF THIS J-FED???
IF IT WAS A REAL INVESTIGATION!!!
DONT BE FOOLED. SOMEONE GET THE FAMILY A LAWYER QUICKLY.
hey news media...jfed and daley are full of it,keep prying into this and everything else their hiding.i saw these 2 pricks at Rick Francis' funeral and now i will sgt's.they act like they care but they are a bunch of false faces.RIP SGT.
Quoting Weis, when interviewed by channel 7:
"It was a pool car. We were probably short on cars and, and, knowing the type of guy that Sergeant Haymaker was, he probably said I'll take this pool car and let the guys have, uh, the newer vehicles. So, mean the, we, we were down a car, he took a pool car and thats what he used." (These aren't typos; he stuttered.)
Does this man really BELIEVE what he said?
Does he not KNOW how vehicles are assigned?
Mr. Weis, vehicles are ASSIGNED to beats before the officer or sergeant begins his tour of duty. If it turns out the (already) assigned vehicle is down for service, the officer or sergeant then drives the 'pool' car that replaced his normal car.
We don't, out of the goodness of our hearts, go out hunting down the worst possible vehicle to drive! It has already been ASSIGNED to us to drive! (If anything, we go hunting through the few cars left on the lot, hoping to find something - anything - to drive, to avoid having to take that pool car at all.
And who are you KIDDING? KNOWING the kind of person Sgt. Haymaker was???? Like you know ANYBODY on this job besides the Fed-friends you gave jobs to, or the incompetent, inexperienced, clout-heavy 'policy group' you instituted?
And, the final insult? Telling the media that the ONLY source for reliable and truthful information (no, I'm not making this up, folks) is Blog501. Get me a barf bag.
People, if you're going to take photos of squads, first disable the date/time imprinted on the picture.
The department will surely hang you out to dry if they can pin down the identity of the photographer by determining who was assigned to that vehicle in one 24hr window.
Again... down any car with problems; just be prepared to articulate why piloting such vehicle would/could be potentially hazardous to life and property. Company Bossholes will probably be more than happy to give you shit about it, but demand they put it in writing when/if they order you to drive a compromised vehicle to hit the streets and clear that backlog.
And if you're so inclined, document any and all vehicle deficiencies photographically and provide the various media outlets with same evidence. I suggest doing this sooner rather than later; an unfortunate aside to this tragedy is that it will soon be forgotten by the masses, and that includes the vultures in the media. Provide the fuel to keep this fire burning - hell, make it a conflagration that'll smolder well past the time we get our contract settled. Supplement the "photographic evidence" the media has of this crash with hundreds of more photos that depict the deathtraps many of us ride around in day after day.
Jody-Boy claims the car driven by Sgt. Haymaker "had 1,000 miles on it since the service...". WHAT KIND of service was performed? And WHO performed this service?
Free "XX-point inspections" at any chain auto repair establishment would have immediately pointed out that the tires were badly worn on any given vehicle, deeming them non-roadworthy. If the tires are partially to blame in this instance, shouldn't whoever performed the "service" be held accountable to a certain degree? After all, "1,000 miles" isn't enough to significantly wear tires on a vehicle that "was functioning properly".
Weis responding angrily to persistent questions about the safety of Haymaker's squad is telling in and of itself...draw your own conclusions about what he REALLY knows and how he REALLY feels about CPD's vehicle fleet, and more specifically those cars designated as "pool vehicles".
And a shout-out from me to Jody: "FUCK YOU!"
For you to spout asinine certainties that Haymaker's vehicle had no role is his untimely death is premature, absurd, ignorant and smacks of nothing more than damage control ordered by your Puppet Master. We'll believe that the car had nothing to do with Haymaker's death as soon as we believe you had nothing to do with leaving Joseph Airhart to bleed out.
With all due respect, why was he exiting LSD at Irving Park Road to respond to a burglary at 3167 N. Clark, just south of Belmont? Wouldn't it have been way faster to stay on LSD than deal with any diagonal route on side streets?
24 Feb 2010, 990 N. Lake Shore Drive another departmental vehicle crash on the "S" curve on LSD. The officer was doing about 25mph and lost control of his vehicle and crashed. Officer suffered broken collier bone and torn ligaments. Bad tires or poorly salted road way?
The only answer is an independent review of the accident investigation. It'll never happen. Too many politicians can get burned on this one.
HAAAAA-HAAAAAAA!
j-fart and the exempts are climbing all over each other trying to get away from this one!
HAAAA-HAAAAAA!
Laughing our asses off watching the daley inc. media machine burst into flames trying to spin this!
This shit is funner than hitting a dope house and watching the fools inside fighting each other trying to jump out the one window that doesn't have bars on it! We shoulda made popcorn!
Hey j-fart! Ya getting that feeling of sliding in some fresh dog shit and breaking a leg yet?
Ass stinging from being pegged by a madly cackling greasy midget standing on a phone book? Truly amazing what some men will do for money we reckon.
Because of the aforementioned we presume you have no pride, no manhood, no soul and no honor so we wouldn't dream of asking you how it feels to be 42 extra-short's 3 year million dollar boy-toy.
Do you and your feeb playmates have even the slightest notion on how to unfuck this fucked up situation? Sucks to be you since there is nothing in the big feeb playbook that covers this huh?
It's a damn sin and shame it took a tragedy to awaken people to some of what has been going on with this Department.
Every last one of you fools are culpable. The Policeman's prayer is that Justice will flay the stinking hide off your bones and expose you to the world as the hypocrites you are.
We hope the day comes when you, the exempts, and shortshanks are litigated into poverty, sent to prison and left to rot on a cot for what you've done.
May you fools nightmares include visions of your eternal torment for what you've done and allowed to happen.
Justice would be you fools crying for help in the company of men and no man stirs a finger for you...
If the tires are bald, that is a violation of state law. If the Chicago Police Department, through its official maintenance organization, will not make a vehicle safe, perhaps other police organizations that have jurisdiction could be called in from time to time to look at a vehicle and order it off the roads? Perhaps the state police? The Cook County Sheriff won't help you.
2/24/2010 12:48:00 AM
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The one you want is the Secretary of State Police, believe it or not.
They do NOT mess around and they know every petty little state and Federal automotive law there is.
Of course, they'd have to assign four full-time officer/investigators to our fleet for at least a month.
If any reporters out there would like to inspect the vehicles, I would welcome the chance. Take a ride around the block with the pool vehicle Im stuck driving. After you hear the entire front end rattle and see the condition of the tires, smell the gross inside, look at the deep hole in the drivers seat that catches on my weapon everytime I exit. The hole in the roof where there once was a light and camera. The cold air coming in through the passenger side window that has no seals at all. Fumes leaking into the car from the exaust. You would puke. Might as well, thats what it smells like anyway. Sometimes I welcome the fumes! I was told by the off going crew who picked up the pool, it was the only car or nothing. No pdt because its a new mount. We still have all old computers. the regular went down because of a camera problem ticket. We have three other good cars down due to camera problem ticket or gps issue and no pool replacements. When will it end?
Pt. II
Hmmmm??
OSHA is involved now?
What about all the complaints over the years about Policemen being exposed to, getting sick and dying from some of the hazardous/noxious/toxic shit we're exposed to on a daily basis?
The mayor, exempts, politicos and the public at large have been telling us for years that we're expendable and disposable!
And speaking of exposure to the noxious... don't get us started about Policemen getting collection notices and having their credit scores ruined because the Finance Committee drags their feet on paying medical bills or having needed medical surgical procedures routinely denied by alderfool Burke. He's another one who needs a size 12 boot in his tight ass for fucking over hurt coppers. Watch that hump show up at the good Sergeant's funeral & wake to glad hand & back slap like he's a real member of the brotherhood... Hypocrite! Watch your wallets...
IT'S ALL LEGIT!!!
Why doesn't Pam "mini Me" from CBS ride around to the area's and take a look at the "motor Pool" vehicles? I betting that the minute she's spotted in the lots that a patrol veh. will be posted to secure the lot "for officer safety" !! Hey Didn't Jody say we were going to get ALL new veh. that he was going to pay for with the money he pulled out of the mayors ass?!!!
YET STRANGELY TWO AND A HALF YEARS LATER WE STILL HAVE NO CONTRACT,AND WE'RE DRIVING DEATH TRAPS !!!
OFFICERS, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE TO DRIVE AN UNSAFE VEHICLE'NOT JUST FOR SAFETY,BUT FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY AS WELL.
THE BEST WEAPON IN YOUR ARSENAL IS AN INK PEN! DOCUMENT: DATES TIMES NAMES PLACE,VEHICLE NUMBERS. REMEMBER, BETTER TO MUCH INFORMATION THAN TO LITTLE.
Sgt Alan Haymaker,"may flights of angels sing thee to thy rest."
When Michael Scott decided to check out of town, rather than face the debt collectors.... that b*tch, Weis, went on record saying he was not going to rule out anything UNTIL THE INVESTIGATION was complete.
Now, flash forward, we have not even buried our Brother, and this guy has the nerve to state:
".....so based upon what I know at this time, I would have to say that the vehicle was functioning properly," Weis said.
Based on what I know about you, YOU ARE CLUELESS!
Whats this comment weis said officers he talked to on the scene said there was no ice just slush and wet ground. What officers you ahole? You were not out there, you at home pumping iron looking in the mirror at your glorious self.
Weis completely protected daley and bryne. Came right out and said this has nothing to do with streets and san. Keep digging the hole deeper mother fkr. We can hate you more and more each day. Weis you are a selfish carefree jackass.
The PBPA and the FOP have once again remained silent while a brother was needlessly killed!
Time for a coup de tat, we need to demand action from our unions.
We are now dying, it could be anyone of us needlessly dying again.
I pray that the Haymaker family retains competent legal guidance before this horrible tragedy becomes removed from the public arena.
Time for an independent analysis of the entire incident. The ISP or the NTSB needs to be called in to do a traffic crash reconstruction of the tragedy.
Can we drop a dime to OSHA and the NTSB?
Where is Fran Spielman and Frank Main on this one?
John Kass please drop some ink on this needless tragedy.
Evanston PD suggested contacting their traffic reconstructionist who teaches at the Northwestern Traffic Institute.
The conflicting media stories all point to several things. There must be an independent review of this tragedy, the CPD needs to assess its fleet and S&S needs to salt LSD and all the streets in hazzardous weather.
The silence from our unions is unbelievable.
Can someone from the ISP relate what your protocol would be in a tragedy like this.
We need answers and truth.
Thanks
SCC,
Not only are you INSIGNIFICANT but you are not the source of truthful information either according to Superintendent Jody Weis:
Late Wednesday a police department spokesman told the I-Team that if they were to get more grant money, they would order more cars. There seemed to be some confusion between the city's police and fleet management departments concerning exactly how much money there is - or might be - for replacement SUV patrol vehicles. So we'll turn to what Superintendent Weis said is the only factual source for police information, his personal Web blog, which puts the total number of police Tahoes at about 500.
What will you be next?
Must suck to be so SIGNIFICANT!
Keep up the awesome work SCC
FOX Chicago News has requested copies of all Streets and Sanitation audio communications from 3:00 to 6:00 a.m. Monday to try and get to the bottom of this.
Destroying evidence is a crime! Don't let some boss tell you otherwise, this tragedy is going to end up in court.
Where is the print media on this story? The Sun Times and the Tribune are silent, why?
I suggest we start calling our Aldermen again and demanding an investigation into this tragedy.
With all due respect, why was he exiting LSD at Irving Park Road to respond to a burglary at 3167 N. Clark, just south of Belmont? Wouldn't it have been way faster to stay on LSD than deal with any diagonal route on side streets?
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With all due respect, he WASN'T exiting at Irving. Go look at the linked photos. He was already past Irving and continuing southbound when the car continued in a straight line over the curb and into the tree.
HOW MANY "POOL CARS" ARE BEING USED BY 35TH ST? 0
HOW MANY UNSAFE "POOL CARS" HAVE BEEN REASSIGNED TO MSF AND TRU DUE TO THE SHORTAGE OF CARS AND THE EXPANSION OF THESE UNITS?
COME VISIT OUR TRU UNIT PARKING LOT AND YOU WOULD THINK YOU'VE JUST ENTERED THE SQUAD CAR GRAVE YARD!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let's face it. The only thing that is going to happen here is that every officer will be required to take a safe driving course as a condition of employment.
Channel 5 @ 0630 just said "Sgt. Haymaker's car slid off the road in slush." WTF? Now Shortshanks is editing their news? SLUSH???? WHO'S BRIGHT IDEA WAS IT TO ADD THAT TIDBIT???? WHAT ABOUT ICY CONDITIONS? NEVER HEARD OF SLIDING ON SLUSH! I HATE THIS TOWN. RIP SGT.
Isn't it ironic that the death of Officer Haymaker would finally shine a spotlight on how the politics and corruption in Chicago has affected the safety of the department? But, most intriguing is that from what I have read, post after post, about Officer Haymaker's (a pastor) integrity and concern for safety, and rigid ongoing daily routines surrounding safety he was the least likely candidate to actually have an "accident." Because, high functioning people know that most accidents can be avoided. And we know the knee jerk reaction would be to blame the accident victim. But it looks like it might be kind of hard to do in this case. Which is why Weis might be so upset.
The Lord works in mysterious ways, don't he?
---not a cop
When Michael Scott decided to check out of town, rather than face the debt collectors.... that b*tch, Weis, went on record saying he was not going to rule out anything UNTIL THE INVESTIGATION was complete.
Now, flash forward, we have not even buried our Brother, and this guy has the nerve to state:
".....so based upon what I know at this time, I would have to say that the vehicle was functioning properly," Weis said.
Based on what I know about you, YOU ARE CLUELESS!
2/25/2010 02:18:00 AM
He did the same thing with Aunt Bea's condo bust.
start documenting defects on squad car...if unsafe call it in...be prepared to back up your observations.....file safety grievances if needed....weis says no one complained about squad car in fatal accident prior to incident....show him that you will complain about shit cars from this point forward....
show up at union meeting and raise your voices....
With all due respect, why was he exiting LSD at Irving Park Road to respond to a burglary at 3167 N. Clark, just south of Belmont? Wouldn't it have been way faster to stay on LSD than deal with any diagonal route on side streets?
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Where haymaker decided to exit isn't important. Go nitpick somewhere else. FACT is, LSD was an icy mess. I know because i was on the rink that morning right before the crash. Playcallers at home can parrot what city officials claim, that the roads were "watery" or "slushy". Interview cops or civilians who actually drove LSD between 0300 - 0600 and they'll tell you.
for 40 bucks per ton for salt, why LSD wasn't salted is beyond me.....as a tax-paying civilian I want to know why I'm looking at the mountain of salt at pershing and iron. i want to know why a small pile of OUR salt mountain wasn't used to MELT ICE on LSD.
maybe its prettier sitting there?
HATER said...
either the family or fop have to put in a civil suit plain and simple...
2/25/2010 12:12:00 AM
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I wouldn't trust FOP to do ANYTHING that the stuttering prick didn't TELL THEM TO DO!!!
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"...And, the final insult? Telling the media that the ONLY source for reliable and truthful information (no, I'm not making this up, folks) is Blog501. Get me a barf bag.
2/25/2010 12:48:00 AM
Hey, SCC!
For this frickin' LIE, a post would be appropriate on how UN-reliable and UN-truthful blog501 is!
WAKE THE FUCK UP AND NAIL THESE PRICKS. We use shit cars every fucking day in this shithole city
what does fucking weiss know about driving a piece of shit- making 300K and driving that take home vehicle he has- he just doesn't get it. After seeing him on the news I felt pissed- more interested in protecting the department then sympathy for the rank and file- if you don't feel that way then fucking fake it stupid- I have to admit I was a guy that felt good about his hire yrs ago and now I hate this guy more then the terrorist( I gave up wishing ill to people but this guy really tests my commitment I HATE THIS GUY!
OT on media. Ron Majors refered to the 2nd Amendment as a "collective right" what the fuck is a collective right? Than does that make the 1st and 4th amendments COLLECTIVE rights? Do we need to live in a collective to have these rights? Fuck Ron Majors and his COLLECTIVE=communism. The Bill of Rights are to protect the individual from govenment not the govenment from the individual.
Since we can't strike dose'nt mean we can't do something...But no,,,just keep signing up for special you dumb motherfuckers...
Late Wednesday a police department spokesman told the I-Team that if they were to get more grant money, they would order more cars. There seemed to be some confusion between the city's police and fleet management departments concerning exactly how much money there is - or might be - for replacement SUV patrol vehicles. So we'll turn to what Superintendent Weis said is the only factual source for police information, his personal Web blog, which puts the total number of police Tahoes at about 500.
The Tahoes, although very comfortable, are not safe vehicles. The corner terribly, causing police to slow to practically a stop to turn. The fords were the best for driving, comfortable and safe. Please don't waste our money on Tahoes.
Hell the city forces Cab companies to replace their vehicles after 5 years of service. But when it comes to emergency vehicles, they can be on the street for over a decade. The civilian in charge doesn't care about the condition of the vehicles we drive. It's all about saving money. Remember folks the lowest bidder always gets the contract, not the safest.
did anybody see abc7 last night at 10? jfed has pulled the plug on plan for 2000 Tahoes. now were getting only 500. how far will THAT go? Pool cars for life.
2/25/2010 12:48:00 AM
There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON for anyone reading this, to believe that Jody Weis has ANY knowledge of how the Chicago Police Dept. functions. He has NEVER been a Police Officer, he IS NOT NOW a Police Officer and he WILL NEVER BE a Police Officer.
He was brought in by the BIGGEST lying thief in this city and head of the Daley/Burke/Madigan Crime Family to be a BIG DUMMY PUPPET for the Mayors Office. This way, there would be no interference when the Mayor told BIG DUMMY Weis HOW he wanted to run the Dept., and WHO he wanted running it.
When the Stuttering Prick says "Do this", the BIG DUMMY goes and does it, not even realizing the ramifications of puppeting the order.
It's kind of easy for this sorry outsider, who has NOTHING invested in this Dept, to undermine it, when he is being compensated/bribed at TWICE the salary of the previous Supt.
Daley discovered long ago, that he could not fully control people who had risen in this Dept and held a strong allegiance to it and its members (and had at least some integrity as police officers). This is why he, long ago, traded off any thought of the Chicago Police Dept being a respected, competent Dept. instead of another City Dept. where he could place his friends and other connected individuals in high paying jobs with good benefits and pensions.
F*CK YOU VERY MUCH, YOU STUTTERING PRICK! AND YOU TOO, YOU BIG DUMMY!!!
yes the dept and the city doesn't care about you, especially if your in patrol.
This new 4/2 schedule was conceded by the city only if there was an overlap which allowed more officers on the streets, regardless of the type of cars you have to drive. There are several ways to combat the overlap so officers wouldn't have to scrounge and use shitty cars, but the city is trying to do more with less. But of course there are plenty of brand new cars at 35th street. Have you ever seen a pool for an exempts car? They are pristine. This sense of entitlement just keeps getting worse because now it is laden with a former fed feeding his kool aid to some blow hards who cant wait to stab you in the back.
If you want to act like a fed go join them, oh wait they wouldn't take you because they hate the CPD, but you morons still are falling all over yourselves to be like them, that's just lunacy.
"...And a shout-out from me to Jody: "FUCK YOU!"
For you to spout asinine certainties that Haymaker's vehicle had no role is his untimely death is premature, absurd, ignorant and smacks of nothing more than damage control ordered by your Puppet Master.
2/25/2010 12:55:00 AM
Yes, but that is why he was hired. To be a big fucking liar and spin master for the Mayor and the friends of the Mayor.
Remember his premature, absurd and ignorant comments that completely vindicated Aunt Bea BEFORE any investigation was done after a gun and dope were found in her condo after the execution of a search warrant?
Same BULLSHIT, different day!
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Anonymous said...
With all due respect, why was he exiting LSD at Irving Park Road to respond to a burglary at 3167 N. Clark, just south of Belmont? Wouldn't it have been way faster to stay on LSD than deal with any diagonal route on side streets?
2/25/2010 12:56:00 AM
HE wasn't exiting! His piece of shit pool car was exiting!
When vehicles that should not be on the road are driven under the emergency conditions that police vehicles are routinely subjected to, it is nothing short of a recipe for disaster.
would j-fed or any of the exempts ride around in some of these pool vehicles with 120,000 plus miles on them--- most vehicles with that type of mileage have probably been smashed up a few times and have gremlins--- veteran officers realize that this has always been a problem, every time you go to the area to down the regular car for service you get a hand full of keys and the old "go pick the best one you can find" speech.... all the pool cars are beasts, you hope to find one that is semi clean with operating heat/air and working emergency lights.... did sgt haymaker hit a patch of black ice or was their some type of vehicle failure--- he is the only one who really knows but you can not rule out some type of vehicle failure as it certainly may have been the a contributing cause in the accident...
Anonymous said...
"...don't get us started about Policemen getting collection notices and having their credit scores ruined because the Finance Committee drags their feet on paying medical bills or having needed medical surgical procedures routinely denied by alderfool Burke.
2/25/2010 01:40:00 AM
I had a similar problem. I was advised by my Sgts union to file a medical grievance against the Dept. I did so and within weeks, the logjam was broken.
To 12:56am- If the Outer Drive was not salted, as alleged, he would have realized that it would be safer taking Sheridan (inner Drive)
over to Belmont, since that is ALWAYS salted, because the CTA buses heading Downtown & back all use that route. Anyone who has worked in 023 would do likewise.
With all due respect, he WASN'T exiting at Irving. Go look at the linked photos. He was already past Irving and continuing southbound when the car continued in a straight line over the curb and into the tree.
2/25/2010 05:46:00 AM
Straight line, you say? Newtonian physics, you say? BAH! Jody and Daley insist those rules don't apply in Chicago (just like the Constitution only governs the country, not cities, in his own words).
Man charged in burglary linked to officer's death
February 25, 2010 7:56 AM
A suspect has been arrested and charged in the burglary that Chicago Police Sgt. Alan Haymaker was responding to when he died in a crash earlier this week.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/02/
wake-today-for-chicago-officer-killed-in-crash.html
HAAAAA-HAAAAAAA!
j-fart and the exempts are climbing all over each other trying to get away from this one!
HAAAA-HAAAAAA!
Hes making 300,000 a year. So who has the last laugh?
Let's Go MSM Step up to the plate.
In the late 70's I drove for a private ambulance company on the South Side,working my way through school. One media outlet back then did a big expose' on the Shit condition/lacking equipment on the vehicles being used by these cash cows.
Those blood boxes back then were in show room condition compared with the shit provided to us now.
Why hasn't anyone mentioned that instead of purchasing Chicago made Ford Taurases with standard side airbags, the city bought Ohio made chevy's because a friend of Daley's got a cut?
Go ahead, tell me that the $2000 per vehicle the city allegedly saved is worth it now?
Look at all the extra cars always parked at Belmont & Western. Instead of buying a lot of crummy cars, how about buying just enough safe ones?
Did the city remove the airbags to save money?
I guess all the cops living on the NW and SW sides of the city who consistently vote for the Democrats because they think they will get an easy retirement job with the Sherrif, States Attorney or Park District NOW have something to think about!
How much is a cop's life worth to the City? About $2000 below minimum. It's not like you guys are important, like Hired Truck Drivers!
Streets and san said the same thing last year when a p.o. in 23 asked the dispatcher to have them salt lsd becaue people were crashing all over the place from the black ice. S&S told dispatch on 3rd watch that they were not authorized to salt lsd and refused to come out and salt. There are so many accidents on lsd from the black ice, I dont understand why safety is not the #1 issue.
What kills me is the Department conducted a very, very comprehensive investigation for michael scott (who was dirty as hell) and the investigation for blinky was around 10 seconds long and our poor sgt haymaker was about a day. It's nice to know where our priorities are.
Protect the clouted and the rest can go rot on the side of the road. Bust your asses warriors!!
TO:
"with all due respect"
2/25/2010 12:56:00 AM
No.
You are either not the police or very young, or inept at response to in progress calls...or all above. Here's why...
The more responding units that take different avenues of approach, especially if you know you are coming from a long way off, the greater the chance is that you might observe the fleeing offenders leaving the scene.
They don't wait for you to arrive.
It takes time to place the call and have it dispatched.
In all likelyhood the bad guys are departing the scene and several blocks away at best upon your arrival. Greater if in MV.
Good officers know this and begin to look for signs of persons leaving the scene during response.
Also, they are waiting for the first unit's flash if one is avail.
Responding to In Progress Calls
101.
I hope the media recognizes the spin that Superintendent Weiss is trying put on this story. That is, deflecting the questions about the road conditions on LSD at the time of the accident, and also the condition of the "pool car" that the Sergeant died in. There have been numerous statements on various blogs that Streets and Sanitation were ordered to stop salting LSD at 4AM. Another blog has numerous pictures of the crash scene that contradict what various media outlets have been reporting. Anyone who has seen or been assigned to a pool car knows that these same vehicles would be pulled off the streets if they were taxi cabs. I hope the family of Sergeant Haymaker have retained an attorney in order to ensure that the wreck of this vehicle and it's tires do not somehow disappear. There's a much a bigger story at hand here, and I'm hoping that some enterprising reporter will dig deeper into it. A snowstorm in Chicago is not an unusual occurrence, but the snowjob we've all endured over the last twenty odd years is a much more newsworthy event.
"Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?"..........Johnny Rotten
I am not a mechanic and I can in no way ascertain if a vehicle is in any condition to drive due to bald tires or any other thing that would require specific mechanics knowledge. The oil gages in the cars dont work but yet they want to blame me for the car not having enough. I dont know how to check the oil? Some of the cars fuel indicators dont work either. Tires must also be properly inflated but how am I supposed to figure that out? I only know when I have a flat. I almost fell out of a car once was it not for my seat belt. The door ajar indicator did not work and the door did not close propertly unless it was slammed with all my might. I was told when I called area three that there where no cars available and of course we had no extra cars in the station. I asked for wipers yesterday due to the snow and poor visibility from the crappy wipers and I went a whole tour without proper wipers, luckily the snow let up and I didnt have to put the car down. Regular maintenance of grease and oil doesnt cover bad brakes or bald tires or steering that sticks on turns. They take problems with cars when we bring it to the attention of motor maintenance. they need to do a full check of everything when they do grease n oil like they do at the dealerships for my personal car. why does our safety always take a back seat to policy and inventory of vehicles. What has happened? When I came on this job we had a huge inventory of pool cars and our cars were decent, reliable vehicles.
2/25/2010 01:22:00 AM
Sorry SOS police are under jesse white "who be that" who is beholden to daley and the madigans + the 50 cowards. Don't forget aldthief burnett a convicted felon had his case expunged due to jesse white! white is just another thief brother,that old man needs to retire like daley-madigan!
First, my deepest sympathies on the death of Sgt. Alan Haymaker. I am local resident living in 023. I went over to Lake Shore Drive and Irving Park Road on Monday afternoon after the accident. The major media has it all wrong. I don't think, from the tire tracks in the snow, that Sgt. Haymaker was trying to exit at IP. He swerved off the drive and came no where near the ramp. The pix on Chicago News Bench are accurate. But wth do I know. I'm a community journalist who typically gets treated like crap by the parchuters who come in and ask stupid questions and don't do their homework. 023 does a great job, imo and is very responsive to the community. My thanks to 023 for inviting me personally to Tuesday's press conference. God bless Sgt. Haymaker and the men and women of 023.
I retired now but many times when I needed a pool car at 52 & Wetworth the person at the control board gave me 3 or 4 sets of keys. He would always say maybe you can find one that works.
Sometimes 3 or 4 sets were not enough. Then there are the special pool cars for the bosses. They all start.
goudie last night had an invsetigation,dam if he did not find new tahoes parked behind 51st and wentworth! Are these muli-colored vehicles being kept for the exempts and daleys-burkes-treasurers valets? Brand new front line cars while we drive junkers! Years ago when police vehicles had 6-85K they were sold at auction,as they reached there useful life,hmm maybe we could do the same with our current politcal structure!
J-Fed is a complete LIER AND CITY HALL RAT. NEVER TRUST HIM!!! We all know how terrible the vehicles are and if we complain we are retailiated against by the brass.
"With all due respect, why was he exiting LSD at Irving Park Road to respond to a burglary at 3167 N. Clark, just south of Belmont? Wouldn't it have been way faster to stay on LSD than deal with any diagonal route on side streets?
2/25/2010 12:56:00 AM"
with all due respect, why do you think you know anything about what happened?
With all due respect, why was he exiting LSD at Irving Park Road to respond to a burglary at 3167 N. Clark, just south of Belmont? Wouldn't it have been way faster to stay on LSD than deal with any diagonal route on side streets?
2/25/2010 12:56:00 AM
Quit getting your information from Chicago's MSM. Wasn't exiting LSD. Look at the pictures.
Look at the linked photos, no skid marks on the pavement. Only on the snow filled grass. If there were skid marks, it would mean that the tires had contact with the road.
Obviously, there was something between the tires and the pavement.
SNOW, SLUSH, ICE, ....ETC.
This clearly shows that the road wasn't cleared.
RIP Officer Haymaker
Tom Byrne, be the real police and tell the truth. Or are you just another City Puppet.The Sgt's vehicle struck black ice due to lack of salt from your Department.You know the truth . All sworn members know what happened and so do you.
PLEEEEZE start posting photos of the shit-box vehicles we are expected to drive.
As mentioned the last few days, if it squeaks, creaks, or reeks, call for R service. Put it on your humper, put it in your new notebook, send yourself an email you can keep on file. Remember to get names, times, etc.
The real demoralizing issue will be JFed and shortshanks at the funeral putting on a show as if this affects them.
RIP Sarge!
13:32 hrs.
Burglar NOT to be charged with murder.
It's just going away.
Thanks very much for the link, SCC!
With all due respect, why was he exiting LSD at Irving Park Road to respond to a burglary at 3167 N. Clark, just south of Belmont? Wouldn't it have been way faster to stay on LSD than deal with any diagonal route on side streets?
2/25/2010 12:56:00 AM
With all due respect, it certainly doesn't look like he was exiting here. Probably going to Addison. He hit black ice, plain and simple. Jumped the curb. hit the tree and pole, which are well past the exit.
All of us know that water freezes at 32 degrees Farenheit.
After Streets & San halted the salting of N. Lake Shore Drive in the early morning hours of Monday, February 22, Chicago's lakefront recorded a temperature between 31 and 33 degrees.
Being fully aware of the fact that there was insufficient cause to actually charge the then unknown burglars with Felony Murder, our "intrepid hero" started posturing to the media about invoking the rule notwithstanding.
I submit that his actions were nothing more than a transparent attempt to garner the support of the rank and file who understandably despise him.
As SCC can attest by my "censored" post ("vitriolic obscenities"), the WEISel summarily dismissed unsalted "black ice" and/or the condition of the pool car as the cause of Sgt. Haymaker's death.
Now why would this lying, psychopathic vermin attempt to absolve the City of Chicago from any culpablity in the sergeant's death?
Now it's their (Daley, Weis & Co.) time for histrionics and crocodile tears at the funeral of a remarkable man and police officer whom they regard as mere cannon fodder. Note their predictable lack of eye contact.
May God bless the soul of Al Haymaker and grant strength to his widow Elaine, his three daughters. loved ones and friends.
haven't they always refrained from oversalting LSD?
The Truth will NEVER be revealed in Crookago. The whole Bureaucracy of the entire country is corrupt, and, or, incompetent. We have failed as a nation to do things the right way, according to our Laws that are in place. selective enforcement, by our politicians, has been the downfall of our society. Just look at the utter incompetence in just about ANY Investigative Agency. They NEVER get totally to the bottom of anything. Crook County/Crookago politicians still running amuck without indictment is living proof. Sanctuary Cities? They are ILLEGAL by U.S. Laws. Is anything done about it? No.
VOTE OUT EVERY INCUMBENT POLITICIAN IN THE UPCOMING ELECTIONS. VOTE FOR ONLY CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS WHO ARE STRICT BELIEVERS IN OUR U.S. CONSTITUTION, AND ENFORCING ALL OUR LAWS CORRECTLY, NOT JUST THE ONES THEY FEEL LIKE UTILIZING. SAVE AMERICA NOW, BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.
Crookago mainstream news reporters are all corrupt, and controlled by political correctness. They will never go for, or seek, the full truth, in this matter, or any other matter. They are truly Drive-By Media. Amateur investigative Reporting in Crookago, Crook County, where corruption is King.
What planet is our dumbshit supt. from? A supervisor volunteering to take a shit car? Puhleeeeze. Just like all the bosses get pool cars that sit all day anyway. Yup. That was a believable news blip. Just when I think I can't possibly hate him anymore, I find there is still room left to hate his black soul. Why not give him a pool car for a week????? DUMBFUCKER. Sorry.
SCC. Normally I agree with everything you say. But please don't insult the memory of the 3 stooges!!!!
Anonymous said...
With all due respect, why was he exiting LSD at Irving Park Road to respond to a burglary at 3167 N. Clark, just south of Belmont? Wouldn't it have been way faster to stay on LSD than deal with any diagonal route on side streets?
2/25/2010 12:56:00 AM
Why don't you keep your fucking mouth shut if you don't know the facts super cop! The accident occurred south of Irving Park Rd. You sound like Senator Harry Reed.
I know it sounds good to try to give the media some info. on our shit equipment, but the fact is the media hates us and will never go out of their way to help us. Besides they are given their marching orders from Mayor Daley and always have.
"haven't they always refrained from oversalting LSD?
2/25/2010 04:44:00 PM"
don't you mean 'haven't they always engaged in under-salting LSD?'?
Slush, eh?
What was the temperature at the time of the crash, J-Fed? Even if the tires were brand new Michelins, they would skid on ice.
Way to go, Northside!
Knowing of your skills as a detective and your rep to document facts, you have just proven Jody "Slush" Weis to be a LIAR. Thank you.
5:05 PM
Let's get the facts straight.
At Weiss Hospital, Supv. 2320 (Sgt. Haymaker) and Beat 2312 heard the Zone 2 transmission of a "burglary-in-progress" at 3176 (NOT 3167) N. Clark Street (019 side of Clark border). Obviously, he would have exited at Belmont Ave. (3200 N., one more mile south) if not for the crash in which his pool car skidded (per witness) into the post and the thick tree from the S/B Lake Shore Drive curb lane south of the Irving Park Rd. exit and just north of the Irving Park Rd. underpass (4000 N.).
Traffic Crash Report: R.D. No. HS-175557 (Beat 2323)
Burglary Case Report: R.D. No. HS-175561 (Beat 1932)
Districts 019 and 023 both operate on CPD Radio Zone 2.
If Northside is correct, a temperaure between 31 and 33 degrees is most conducive to the most treacherous black ice.
Just the truth, no more coverup and lies please!
Geez, you must still be using the vehicles smashed up in Blues Brothers. Buying and maintaining reliable, safe vehicles for the police officers that keep the rest of us safe obviously makes too much sense - Daley wouldn't be able to get any kickbacks that way.
God bless and watch over all police officers on the street who keep us citizens safe. RIP Sgt Haymaker - may his loved ones feel the comfort of God's mercy in their time of need.
And Satan, you're long overdue for soul pickup: Daley, Richard M; Weis, Jody P; Stroger, Todd; the merry band of Chicago alderthieves and their entourages; those promoted by payoffs... Crap, the list is waaaay too long, send your minions up for immediate garbage removal!
-not a cop, but not that not a cop
Well, J-Fed opened his backstabbing mouth again telling all the media that "we will try to get the burglar charged with the officer's death." First, J-fed could care less. Second, I think he's not sure exactly where he is. This is crook county chicago not a real county. This is a county where crime actually does pay. Nothing ever happens to the bad guys here. Just look how long Daley has been dictator. Third, J-fed never being the police has no idea how the law, charging and the court sytem works. I'm just a lowley Sgt. but I knew how things worked after my first year on the job. There was never a prayer that the burglar would be charged with the death. Only a fool would say that on TV.
FOX Chicago News has requested copies of all Streets and Sanitation audio communications from 3:00 to 6:00 a.m. Monday to try and get to the bottom of this.
Destroying evidence is a crime! Don't let some boss tell you otherwise, this tragedy is going to end up in court.
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just a little inside tip.. im no rat to the media and will stay anonymous but you need to push your search back further. 3am will not do it.. you need to look back about 1145pm the night before to 6am monday.. I think if you dig deep enough you will find clearly what you are looking for...im not sayin, but im just sayin....
PLEEEEZE start posting photos of the shit-box vehicles we are expected to drive.
2/25/2010 01:28:00 PM
Yeah, "wreck of the week." Would be a nice thread.
With all due respect, why was he exiting LSD at Irving Park Road to respond to a burglary at 3167 N. Clark, just south of Belmont? Wouldn't it have been way faster to stay on LSD than deal with any diagonal route on side streets?
2/25/2010 12:56:00 AM
Hey asshat, who said he was exiting? thats just wher he lost control and crashed
Anonymous said...
OT on media. Ron Majors refered to the 2nd Amendment as a "collective right" what the fuck is a collective right? Than does that make the 1st and 4th amendments COLLECTIVE rights? Do we need to live in a collective to have these rights? Fuck Ron Majors and his COLLECTIVE=communism. The Bill of Rights are to protect the individual from govenment not the govenment from the individual.
2/25/2010 08:08:00 AM
I guess Ronnie failed to read the Heller Decision. It's pretty clear that the SCOTUS considers the Second Amendment to guarantee an "individual right."
ECS
Anonymous said...
I know it sounds good to try to give the media some info. on our shit equipment, but the fact is the media hates us and will never go out of their way to help us. Besides they are given their marching orders from Mayor Daley and always have.
2/25/2010 05:09:00 PM
What if an anonymous email were to be set up, where a collection of such pictures of officers' shit cars were to be put on display at an ordinary web domain?
I'm not in the press but doing this would be pretty inexpensive, require not too much work, and it would help out seeing as I'm not a cop and can do nothing else. Since the press won't listen, perhaps there should be a more grassroots effort?
to "the PCAD:"
He was working 2320R, so we don't see what significance, if any, your post serves.
Explain?
Just picked up a covert last week. I was told that area 5 was pissed that we downed the last covert. We downed it because it did not have brakes. We received without brakes. Our cars are SHIT!
With all due respect, why was he exiting LSD at Irving Park Road to respond to a burglary at 3167 N. Clark, just south of Belmont? Wouldn't it have been way faster to stay on LSD than deal with any diagonal route on side streets?
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With all due respect, he WASN'T exiting at Irving. Go look at the linked photos. He was already past Irving and continuing southbound when the car continued in a straight line over the curb and into the tree.
They way I'm seeing the photos and the way his car ended up, it looks as if the car went sideways (driverside into the tree). I don't think he went head on into the tree. Wouldn't there be more damage to the front? I would bet that road conditions played a huge part in this. Oh and the fact Chevy Impalas a crap police vehicles. A friend of mine who is CFD responded to the scene. He said they worked on the Sgt. far while. RIP
Anonymous said...
5:05 PM
Let's get the facts straight.
At Weiss Hospital, Supv. 2320 (Sgt. Haymaker) and Beat 2312 heard the Zone 2 transmission of a "burglary-in-progress" at 3176 (NOT 3167) N. Clark Street (019 side of Clark border). Obviously, he would have exited at Belmont Ave. (3200 N., one more mile south) if not for the crash in which his pool car skidded (per witness) into the post and the thick tree from the S/B Lake Shore Drive curb lane south of the Irving Park Rd. exit and just north of the Irving Park Rd. underpass (4000 N.).
Traffic Crash Report: R.D. No. HS-175557 (Beat 2323)
Burglary Case Report: R.D. No. HS-175561 (Beat 1932)
Districts 019 and 023 both operate on CPD Radio Zone 2.
If Northside is correct, a temperaure between 31 and 33 degrees is most conducive to the most treacherous black ice.
2/25/2010 07:09:00 PM
The female police officer who was at Weiss Hospital with the Sgt and was not too far in back of him was first on the scene, seconds after the collision.
She would know the condition of the pavement on Lake Shore Drive better than anyone, she was there at the time of the accident. What does she say about ice conditions on LSD that morning?
Great story being told by a certain commander who is going back down to captain so he can grab the retirement at 55. Apparently his friend the boss at streets and san called him on the phone screaming about the police department trying to blame him for his call of no rock salt on lsd. The conversation was so heated that the shorter of the two who loves mayor daley hung up on the cmdr. Me wonders if this is the anonymous exempt rank who has nothing to lose by squealing to the press.
While I'm no fan of the Weisel he has no power over our vehicles,nada! All police vehicles
now fall under the authority of Fleet Management.You now have a Daley crony making decisions on what we drive, to how and when they get repaired. One day I had to take my Chevy Impala for scheduled grease and oil, plus the check engine light was on. While at A4 garage I was told that there was not enough mechanics to perform oil changes(mandatory unpaid furlough day). The guy on the desk asked if I wanted to leave it there for the next day to get the oil changed. I told him that the check engine light was also on. He said they would check it out but had no unmarked pool cars for me to use. All of the sudden a female P.O. burst into the office arguing with a mechanic that she is not leaving her vehicle at A4. What happened was she had a spanking brand new Chevy Tahoe and the check engine light was on. Since it was a brand new vehicle and still under warranty they could not take the chance to keep driving it and void the warranty. But here was the kicker they also didn't have any marked pool cars.
The female P.O. then said that the vehicle was running fine except for the check engine light and would drive it like that. The mechanic told she could not drive the vehicle with the check engine light.She then told him that the vehicle is her assigned vehicle and she was not downing it. Now the mechanic said no she is not and she said then what am I suppose to respond to calls during her tour of duty. The mechanic then told her he didn't care it wasn't his problem and that the cars now belong to Fleet and not the department. The female P.O. then called her sgt. who in turn talked to a garage manager. A deal was reached where it was notated on the work order that the p.o. took the vehicle against the advise of the shop and if the vehicle was damaged the p.o. would be held accountable for the damages.
Moral of the story is the police department has no say on what vehicles we get and fleet doesn't care if we have cars to work the streets. Remember back in the early 90's when a Commander ran Motor Maintenance and the vehicles belonged to the police department? During all the Bulls Championships and war protests when we needed all of our vehicles on be on the streets? All it took was a phone call from the Superintendent and every single car was up and running. Now if that would happen Jody Boy would have to call Picardi and beg him to get some cars fixed to have available for the extra manpower on the streets.
I also didnt leave my car that day because I needed a car in order to perform my duties. I guess from now on we all should down our cars for every minor mechanical problem and when told there is no pool cars avaailable say too bad I am not driving the vehicle like that and call for your sgt. to pick you up. Hey Weisel if this was to occur citywide I garauntee you my paycheck there be no vehicles to patrol the streets!
btw, fuck ron magers too!
Wait til you see all the bosses pull up to the funeral home in their new cars with drivers, don't puke.
The female police officer who was at Weiss Hospital with the Sgt and was not too far in back of him was first on the scene, seconds after the collision.
She would know the condition of the pavement on Lake Shore Drive better than anyone, she was there at the time of the accident. What does she say about ice conditions on LSD that morning?
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The "female" officer is none other than the officer who then Area 3 Deputy Chief James Mauer tried to fire after she refused to assist officers who were in a fight behind Wrigley Field when they were attempting to arrest some drunk yuppies.
OLD TIMER: BRING BACK THE H.A.T. CMDR. HE MADE SURE WE HAD GOOD SQUADS TO DRIVE WITH SNOW TIRES.AND HAD ENOUGH SQUADROLS.
I worked the safe schools on Monday 22feb and I was at 50h and Union. During my tour there a streets and sans supervisor in his car drove down union with a s&s salt truck following behind him twice. They went down the block once with the salt flying all over my car and my partners car. They returned within 10 mins and resalted the street again. I really was struck by this cuz I kept thinking about Haymaker and how LSD should of been salted and not this stupid side street. WTF this is soo wrong.
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