More Camera Angst
Red light cameras in the spotlight again, this time for Right Turn on Red violations:
- Red Light cams -- or red-light scams?
One state senator calls them cash stations on a stick. One village made a million bucks before being shamed into taking a camera down.
You don't even think about running red lights when you see them. But now they've found a new way to take your money.
Thirty-eight thousand cars a day speed through an intersection near Great Lakes Naval Training Center in North Chicago. Signs eastbound warn of "Red Light Photo Enforcement," but there is no sign prohibiting right turn on red, which the camera caught a CBS 2 producer doing.
Proper signage has always been at the heart of most of these challenges. There's a reason that every Chicago intersection with a camera has signs on all four corners, even the camera is only watching a single direction of travel. In any event, the media is noticing the beginnings of a anti-camera movement that might one day amount to something. So are some of the politicians.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
33 Comments:
It is statistically proven that these red light cameras increase accident rates at intersections that have them.
They are all about $$$$$ and replacing sworn police officers with technology. I believe they should be ruled unconstitutional.
The outright fleecing of the taxpayer must stop!
These tickets only affect law-abiding citizens with something to lose. They have zero impact upon the ILLEGAL ALIENS, criminals, welfare recipients and those with bogus plates, bogus temps, no plates, concealed plates, etc.
Once again, law-abiding, working class stiffs bear the brunt of this BS.
Holly shiat, I know that camera. i am a reserve sailor, Afghan vet, and Chicago Sgt and that camera is on the corner of Buckley road and Green bay road. Every drill weekend I see the camera snaping shots. I knew someday it would be an issue. It's across the Street of the VA hospital and next to military residential complex. This camera targets Americas finest patriots. I could not believe that the Navy (DOD) would allow this but then again this is the future. What politician would authorize this.
Wait I got it. put it where individuals have an income and the money will follow. How stupid I am, I'm sorry did I say something wrong.
I left 26th & Cal yesterday, turned the corner at 26th (Blue Island) & Damen after waiting on a red light. When cross traffic let up, I turned right and the camera flashed. My right turn was proper, but does this mean I am getting a f***ing ticket in the mail?
Shortshanks started it... And it spread through the suburbs like a cash eating cancer.
For years, these same kind of cameras have been under attack in London, to the point of having roving bands of citizens spray painting, smashing and/or literally knocking them to the ground with their cars and running over them.
Shades of our future?
I will VOTE against any politician that wants this big brother junk!
Been watching the flash on a red light camera near my home bang away at every car making a legal, right-turn-on-red for a couple of weeks now.
The camera at Harlem/Higgins N/B flashes when there are no cars there. I've seen it many times when I get gas.
Same for the light at Lincoln/Kimball/McCormick.
What is the current status of No Turn On Red in the City of Chicago ?
Some Signs Are Posted On One Side Of The Street, But Not The Other.
Is One Sign Good Enough ?
These tickets only affect law-abiding citizens with something to lose. They have zero impact upon the ILLEGAL ALIENS, criminals, welfare recipients and those with bogus plates, bogus temps, no plates, concealed plates, etc.
Once again, law-abiding, working class stiffs bear the brunt of this BS.
2/23/2010 12:42:00 AM
Since WE are not stopping them and locking them up, maybe WE shouldn't be bringing them up at all.
I received a ticket for making a legal right turn against a red light. They said I had to pay because I did not come to a complete stop before making the turn.
Now hang on a minute...if king mayor shortshanks installed these cameras it was because he was concerned about our safety first and foremost!
In his eyes, no amount of money would be enough to replace one of his citizens that he cares so much about...
Remember: red light cameras = king richie's concern for us...
Some of you people on this blog are so negative and doubting dollies it makes me sick!
Shortshanks has me under his control... I slam on the brakes whenever a light goes yellow now!!
And that is a problem when I go to another city that has long yellows. I have almost been killed twice.
Chicago yellows are, at most, 3 seconds, total scam!
Right on red, got me once at a 7AM-7PM. Shit you not the photo showed 6:59:50PM.
625 ilcs 5/11-306 c
3. Except when a sign is in place prohibiting a turn
and local authorities by ordinance or State authorities by rule or regulation prohibit any such turn, vehicular traffic facing any steady red signal may cautiously enter the intersection to turn right, or to turn left from a one‑way street into a one‑way street, after stopping as required by paragraph 1 or paragraph 2 of this subsection. After stopping, the driver shall yield the right of way to any vehicle in the intersection or approaching on another roadway so closely as to constitute an immediate hazard during the time such driver is moving across or within the intersection or junction or roadways. Such driver shall yield the right of way to pedestrians within the intersection or an adjacent crosswalk.
AFTER STOPPING
I left 26th & Cal yesterday, turned the corner at 26th (Blue Island) & Damen after waiting on a red light. When cross traffic let up, I turned right and the camera flashed. My right turn was proper, but does this mean I am getting a f***ing ticket in the mail?
2/23/2010 06:59:00 AM
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You betcha.
I got an idea. Why not have a flashing green light before it turns yellow ..... Wait a tick that sounds like it will work. Never happen. 2 second yellow is way better.......floor it. Westside firefighter my idea!
Does this really need to be said on a police blog? Drive below the speed limit and stop for yellow lights and you will have no problem. Hmmm... Would I rather have traffic law breakers financing the police department or more sales tax? Tough question.
suburbs do the right turn on red thing too. But as far as I know they have signs posted. 95th and Cicero for sure.
Its all about the dough! No other reason. If you think its about safety, then show me the stats that since a camera has been install in any intersection, that it has saved lives. The only thing one can prove is that it is a money producing machine. I do recall in drivers ed (I know that do not teach it anymore), but if you came to a yellow light, you were to blow your horn and proceed with caution, not slam on your brakes to cause an accident! I guess times have changed into how much money you can milk out of the work man. Instead of the politicians making sure to balance the budget and be accountable, they have red light cameras. And oh by the way.......if you think for one second these cameras are not rolling 24/7....you're in another world, for big brother is watching you. These cameras do not deter any kind of crime, either. I'll tell you this much, I would rather have a police officer on the street doing what he needs to do to reduce crime and protect the citizens of Chicago............and for Christ sake, Daley, if anything....give these guys their contract that has been dued to them for a long time ago!!!!!!!
It should be pointed out from the CCTV capital of the world, the United Kingdom...
CCTV boom has failed to slash crime, say police
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/may/06/ukcrime1
So if its not slashing crime, what is it really doing?
The cameras are nothing more than another revenue generating tool for this armpit of a city. Got one in the mail for rt turn on red, it was at a corner that is posted from 7am to 7pm. It was timed at 6:54am. I contested by mail and 5 months later received a letter from the city stating that I was still responsible for the $100 fine, that it was a final determination and because it was already contested the only way to continue this is to file suit against the city. Need my license to not be suspended so I had to pay it, no parkers or movers from me from now on, screw this shithole of a city!
photoblocker.com the covers work!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I left 26th & Cal yesterday, turned the corner at 26th (Blue Island) & Damen after waiting on a red light. When cross traffic let up, I turned right and the camera flashed. My right turn was proper, but does this mean I am getting a f***ing ticket in the mail?
2/23/2010 06:59:00 AM
ANS: Yup, you're screwed.
But it's NOT a red light camera flash that you witnessed.
It's a new program initiated by Supt. Weis.
That 'flash' you saw was actually Inspector "Big Bird" Taking you picture under this new program intended to further decrease morale.
The code name is...
Pictures Intentended (to) Middle Police or P.I.M.P. for short.
Take the hit brother. You may have saved yourself getting a ticket in the mail and now you can take your Day Off Without Pay attached to your RDO, finally for a 3 day weekend under the new 4-2 program.
Now go out and get an event number.
Does that photoblocker spray really work? I know it's invisible to the naked eye.
See www.PhantomPlates.com
I always worry about having to stop real fast to avoid a ticket, but then I have to worry about getting rear-ended. If you're going to have these cameras, then more tickets should be written for following too closely. It's damed if ya do, Damned if ya don't. That's not a correct Law to have to follow for any Motorist.
I suggest buying a faster car. When approaching a light that is about to change, Just hit it. I've had the camera flash several times but I was already threw the intersection. No red light ticket.
"Does this really need to be said on a police blog? Drive below the speed limit and stop for yellow lights and you will have no problem. Hmmm... Would I rather have traffic law breakers financing the police department or more sales tax? Tough question.
2/23/2010 03:48:00 PM"
hmmmmm, 'financing the police department'?
who do ya think you're foolin'?
"Some of you people on this blog are so negative and doubting dollies it makes me sick!
2/23/2010 12:25:00 PM"
if you're sick, check into Stroger.
just make sure your will is in order before you do.
MythBusters did a segment on this subject a while back. They tried pretty much all of the things marketed for defeating those pesky little traffic cameras. The only thing that worked was when they drove a Lamborghini through the testing zone at about 200 mph. The camera didn't take the picure fast enough. Sidenote: Remember to vote AGAINST anyone with a (D) behind his/her last name. They will fleece you to death. No lie.
At all intersections with cameras there should be a countdown so that drivers know when the light is about to turn yellow. It would save on accidents.
I still don't understand how these cameras are writing a moving violation against a car and not a driver. If a flesh and blood cop did that, it would get thrown out every time. I will give a warning to everyone who lives and drives through Worth. If a Worth camera sends you a ticket, there is no appeal, no court, and no person to turn to. Your options are to either pay the village or sue the company that runs the camera.
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