Rearranging Deck Chairs
Mayor Daley today unveiled his annual package of gun control legislation and denied he's "swimming upstream" at a time when the U.S. Supreme Court has signaled its intention to overturn Chicago's handgun ban.
Most of the ideas are re-treads, but there are a few new wrinkles. They include a proposal to make it a mandatory Class 1 felony to "knowingly sell or transfer a gun to a known gang member."
Daley also wants to strengthen penalties for unlawful use of a weapon so those caught carrying loaded weapons are no longer, as he put it, "let off scot-free."
Yet another mayoral proposal would require semi-automatic pistols manufactured or delivered for sale in Illinois to be capable of "micro-stamping." The technology helps law enforcement link spent ammunition with the gun used to fire it.
Again, we advise everyone who wants a gun to go buy one before the rush. Daley's nonsense aside, there's going to be a run on weapons.
On a better note, here's an article by Steve Chapman explaining why Chicago's gun ban didn't work and won't ever work.
Labels: gun issues
45 Comments:
OT..... How long does zone 10 gotta deal with the dispatcher who mumbles. (it's their job to talk, why can't he speak clearly) Everytime the shit hits the fan he becomes even more un-understandable! Last week a car called for help & he could not repeat the address clearly enough for the car to get help asap! A sgt asked him to repeat the address & u could not understand him! (he should have immediatley been releived from his position)
Please.....will a supervisor grow a pair and get rid of this guy before someone gets hurt!!!!!!!!!
Chapman's article is a good summary. A 2nd And is not really needed in cook county. Here the 4th is interpreted so strickly, the gun owners can just thumb their nose at Daley's silly laws.
"...They include a proposal to make it a mandatory Class 1 felony to "knowingly sell or transfer a gun to a known gang member."
Will this include members of the Daley Crime Family?
"Daley also wants to strengthen penalties for unlawful use of a weapon so those caught carrying loaded weapons are no longer, as he put it, 'let off scot-free.'"
He DOES know that this is Cook County, right? That's EXACTLY why they're being 'let off scot-free.'
It's hard enough now to get the ASA to charge people with the existing laws; part of the reason crime runs rampant here.
They've already made UUW a felony, but that was because so many honest citizens came to the conclusion, "Hey, if the criminals carry a gun to target me, why shouldn't I carry one to protect myself?"
Mayor Daley, as well as J-Fed on WBBM 780, like to bandy about the word "commonsense" when it comes to restrictive firearms legislation...I think they should be honest and admit that it really is "nonsense."
END THE MAYOR'S SECURITY DETAIL OR AT LEAST CUT IT DOWN TO TWO. END ALDERCREATURES ALLOWED TO CARRY GUNS.START WITH THAT STATE LAW FIRST.
Daley is KOOO KOOOO
Years ago and for several years, I carried concealed on a daily basis. Then, it became a felony and as I hold a professional license in Illinois, a felony charge (not just conviction) can (and often does) qualify for license suspension, I no longer carry.
I have never been arrested, charged nor involved in any crime other than the above and 10 over the limit or a rolling stop - my last traffic ticket was somewhere around 1980.
I have, however, been assaulted and robbed at gunpoint since 1990. I took twenty stitches and a concussion. The offender was caught and served 7 months. Yep, 7 months. Assault. Armed robbery. Which, of course, was dealt down to lesser charges.
Yes, let's have more gun control since it works so well on the non-thug serfs.
How about Class X Felony for an Alderman carrying a gun"
Home rule is the city's way to adjust the type of weapons allowed in Chicago.
King Shortshanks is living in a fantasy world. That micro stamping thing passed in Kalifornia, and resulted in gun manufacturers refusing to sell in that state. 42 short will go down in history as the most hated Mayor in the country. And of course the HDO will see to it that he is re-elected in exchange for a few Streets&San truck driving jobs.
Daley get your filthy hands off of our constitutional rights !
These new gun owners are going to have problems finding quality self defense ammo. The stuff simply is not on the shelves like it used to be. Most of the on-line guys are sold out on the good stuff and wont ship to Chicago or Crook county anyway.
Question from an civilian (and law abiding) citizen. If you were to go to go to a gun store and your FOID card has a chicago address, will they sell you a gun? Are they under law not allowed to sell you a handgun because they are illegal in Chicago?
guns are illegal here but the department confiscates 10,000 to 20,000 a year.... their are hundreds of thousands of guns in this city already--- obviously anyone who wants a gun can get one quite easily so the city's gun ban has been a joke since its inception.... now daffy daley wants to drop the hammer on gun violators--- hahahaha, he better call dart and tell him to stop closing down divisions at the county jail....
Americans purchased 14,000,000 guns in 2009, per the FBI "NICS".
(National Instant Check System) Less than .005 percent rejected for cause. Americans are lawful gun owners !
this guy really is a dope....he makes Forrest Gump look good
Did they go and get Ike's guns yet? I mean, he's a felon now and all. Did they get those guns that he has registered with the city?
MEDIA? HELLO?
What folks outside the CPD do not understand is that we have lots of gun laws. Some of the best around, but thanks to the mayor and friends, we have a problem.
1.The Judges are appointed by the local democratic party, they do not back up the police.
2.The lawyers ( friends of the mayor ) all have a open door to the judges and local pols to hurt the police.
3.The local aldermen, all denmocrats, have set up a system where every lawsuit against the city is set for hugh payouts.
4.The Superintenent, a political appointment, has so ruined the department thru political medaling, that the working street officer has slowed down.
5. The local press hide scandels that would really hurt the mayor, what you have heard and seen is just a very small part of whats going on.
6. The US Attorney has slowed down investigations since the Democrats have taken power, indiders say his hands are tied. Many persons of interest are now out of bounds.
This fool of a mayor was on the news last night saying, "any weapon used to fight a war like our troops are using in Iraq and Afghanistan should be illegal" He is missing the point. Guns are for defending youself when your life or the life of another is threatened. If that is the case I want the best tool for the job. I want a gun that is intended to kill people period! We here in the United states of America have the Bill of Rights and in it the 2nd ammendment which is there to protect us from Tyrants like you. Until we live in utopia Mr Mayor I will never allow myself or my family to be butchered by some thug or maniac. And for those of you saying that can't happen here, just look at some of the recent news stories.
They can pass all the anti-gun laws they want...the Cook County ASAs will not approve felony charges anyway. Last week in 024...known (self admitted & many previous arrests as a gang member) gangbanger gets arrested with a loaded handgun, but ASA will not approve the gun & gangmember law against him because the ASA stated that they had to come out and interview the offender and they did not want to.
There is nothing "common sense" about gun laws - except maybe a background check at the time of purchase..everything else is an infringement.
I heard about Daley and his bullshit on the radio last night and couldn't believe my ears. Assault Weapons Ban? That sunset 6 years ago and absolutely nothing's changed..what a bunch of hogwash. It's almost impossible to just watch or listen to the news anymore because the lies are spread so thick!
As a copper and living in this criminally controlled city headed by the king of corruption richie daley, ALL CITIZENS SHOULD BE TRAINED AND ARMED! Why? Then the jags have no idea who will kill their felon ass! Kind of like guess who??
Legalized Guns is a good thing,how about a $10,000 fee to process crime scenes,added on to bad guys sentencing.
IOT..... How long does zone 10 gotta deal with the dispatcher who mumbles. (it's their job to talk, why can't he speak clearly) Everytime the shit hits the fan he becomes even more un-understandable! Last week a car called for help & he could not repeat the address clearly enough for the car to get help asap! A sgt asked him to repeat the address & u could not understand him! (he should have immediatley been releived from his position)
Please.....will a supervisor grow a pair and get rid of this guy before someone gets hurt!!!!!!!!!
Last line says it all. You can bitch and moan all you want but in the end its your Sgt's job or higher rank to call OEMC and get the problem rectified. Sometimes all it takes is a phone call to fix a problem. If your Sgt doesn't want to call an OEMC supervisor or watch manager then his/her silence is consent. You can complain all you want but simply put your Sgt doesn't care or doesn't want to be bothered.
A real boss wouldcall up there and talk to an OEMC supervisor and try to get the problem solved. If that doesn't work your boss should get a CI number, equalivent to a CR number. If the OEMC supervisor doesn't want to right the wrong or get a CI number then get the OEMC supervisor's name and call the OEMC's disciplinary section between 8am-4pm.
All short barrel has to do is tell the states attorney's office to charge properly and then tell his judges to find most of the goofs charged with gun crimes guilty as charged. Then they need to be sent to prison and he needs to tell his governor not to let them out. The problem lies with him and the dumbocrat party in crook county.
SCC,
what happened in 009 the other day? Word is JPud was at roll call praising the officers and then he goes around and has a little hissy fit and complains about several beat officers and gets them written up? Does this guy get it? Way to keep driving morale down the toilet. The irreversable damage done to the CPD at the hands of this neanderthal and his forehead.
OT
Did everyone get their letter yesterday from the Census Bureau? Sent to over 100 million homes telling everyone to expect a letter next week from the Census Bureau. How much of a waste was this? 50 million dollars here and 50 million there for stupid mailings and pretty soon you're talking some money.
Daley is a bozo that NEEDS to permanently move to Michigan without his bodyguard detail that carries the weapons that he deprives law abiding citizens to have in their homes!
"Known" to who? The person that sells the gun? What if someone is "known" to the police as a gang banger but not to the seller of the gun?
He's so fucking stupid it's actually annoying.
And by the way, why did Mrs. Daley meet with Patrick in Florida? They sure are trying to keep him out of Chicago aren't they?
---not a cop
let everyone have guns -- like in Vermont and Alaska
I DONT KNOW WHATS GOIN ON AT OEMC BUT THE DISPATCHERS DO NOT HAVE A CLUE AND DONT CARE ABOUT US OUT THERE!THE VETERANS DO,BUT WOW!IT IS GETTING DANGEROUS OUT THERE WITH THEM!THEY DONT KNOW HOW OR WHO TO DISPATCH JOBS TOO!ITS JUST CLEAR THE BOARD!SOMEONE IS GONNA GET HURT!AND SGTS,LTS, AND W/C DOES NOTHING!RADIO SILENCE MEANS U AGREE!TIME TO SPEAK UP AT ROLL CALL TROOPS,OR CHALLENGE OVER THRE AIR WHEN THE JOB IS READ OUT!
IOT..... How long does zone 10 gotta deal with the dispatcher who mumbles. (it's their job to talk, why can't he speak clearly) Everytime the shit hits the fan he becomes even more un-understandable! Last week a car called for help & he could not repeat the address clearly enough for the car to get help asap! A sgt asked him to repeat the address & u could not understand him! (he should have immediatley been releived from his position)
Please.....will a supervisor grow a pair and get rid of this guy before someone gets hurt!!!!!!!!!
Last line says it all. You can bitch and moan all you want but in the end its your Sgt's job or higher rank to call OEMC and get the problem rectified. Sometimes all it takes is a phone call to fix a problem. If your Sgt doesn't want to call an OEMC supervisor or watch manager then his/her silence is consent. You can complain all you want but simply put your Sgt doesn't care or doesn't want to be bothered.
A real boss wouldcall up there and talk to an OEMC supervisor and try to get the problem solved. If that doesn't work your boss should get a CI number, equalivent to a CR number. If the OEMC supervisor doesn't want to right the wrong or get a CI number then get the OEMC supervisor's name and call the OEMC's disciplinary section between 8am-4pm.
3/09/2010 03:27:00 PM
Lets take this one step further. If the PO's involved firmly believe that this dispatcher is an inherent danger to themselves and other PO's and can articulate a particular incident; they should get a CI # themselves, before someone gets injured or killed.
Don't rely upon lazy supervisors, if they won't or don't know how to do their designated jobs.
The worst case scenario is that there is supporting documentation, for when something tragic occurs to one of us, proving that the City of Chicago did nothing to prevent it.
FOP/PBPA won't and can't do anything to help! They don't want to jeopardize their cushy post-retirement gigs.
It is time to UNITE and FIGHT!
DUMP DALEY in 2011!
Screw Big Brother and Shortshanks!
Don't fill out the personally invasive US Census!
Do you want Big Brother knowing everything about you?
I don't and refuse to fill it out.
Question from an civilian (and law abiding) citizen. If you were to go to go to a gun store and your FOID card has a chicago address, will they sell you a gun? Are they under law not allowed to sell you a handgun because they are illegal in Chicago?
3/09/2010 08:00:00 AM
They will NOT sell it to you. The store in Lyons is still traumatized from being sued by Shorty, back in the 90s. They will not allow you to touch a handgun OR a pistol grip shotgun, with Chicago on your IDs. The store in Plainfield will laugh at you and try to sell you a long gun. Security, Armored car and Police can buy them with proper IDs. Only SCOTUS can save you.
Does anyone know the date of the ISRA IGOLD Springfield March in March?
Why isn't this Noelle Brennan making noise?
not beat a dead horse, but...reasonable estimates have thre gun totals in America as..9 weapons for very 10 persons, meaning 270 million firearms, give or take.....so, who's this guy kidding? America's best gun salesman in recent times is Barry Hussein....get a gun now!
3/09
10:09pm
Don't listen to this idiot. Yes gun stores will sell to you. GAT GUNS, SHORE GALLERIES,CABELA'S and many others will sell to you. If you have an FOID the gun stores will sell to you and remember it is none of their business where you keep your handgun.
"Does anyone know the date of the ISRA IGOLD Springfield March in March?"
48 states can't be wrong!
ISRA is proud to sponsor
Illinois Gun Owners Lobby Day for 2010
Wednesday, March 10, 2010
Starts at 11:45 AM
http://igold.isra.org/
Anonymous said...
Does anyone know the date of the ISRA IGOLD Springfield March in March?
3/09/2010 10:09:00 PM
03-10-10
Anonymous said...
Question from an civilian (and law abiding) citizen. If you were to go to go to a gun store and your FOID card has a chicago address, will they sell you a gun? Are they under law not allowed to sell you a handgun because they are illegal in Chicago?
3/09/2010 08:00:00 AM
There is NO law prohibiting FFLs from selling you a gun,any kind of gun.
Assholes like mega sports wont,but many others will.
Anonymous said...
Question from an civilian (and law abiding) citizen. If you were to go to go to a gun store and your FOID card has a chicago address, will they sell you a gun? Are they under law not allowed to sell you a handgun because they are illegal in Chicago?
3/09/2010 08:00:00 AM
Go to RGuns.They will sell you no problem because it is legal to do so.
Anonymous said...
OT..... How long does zone 10 gotta deal with the dispatcher who mumbles. (it's their job to talk, why can't he speak clearly) Everytime the shit hits the fan he becomes even more un-understandable! Last week a car called for help & he could not repeat the address clearly enough for the car to get help asap! A sgt asked him to repeat the address & u could not understand him! (he should have immediatley been releived from his position)
Please.....will a supervisor grow a pair and get rid of this guy before someone gets hurt!!!!!!!!!
3/09/2010 12:25:00 AM
Maybe the supervisor understands him, you know?
Anonymous said...
not beat a dead horse, but...reasonable estimates have thre gun totals in America as..9 weapons for very 10 persons, meaning 270 million firearms, give or take.....so, who's this guy kidding? America's best gun salesman in recent times is Barry Hussein....get a gun now!
3/09/2010 11:29:00 PM
Its really closer to a BILLION firearms.Over 14 million were made in the USA in 2009 alone.
Remember,guns have been in America since the 1600's.They have been making them here for a long time.
Anonymous said...
let everyone have guns -- like in Vermont and Alaska
3/09/2010 06:18:00 PM
We have a winner.Remember folks,its a right,not a privelage.
I own guns and live in the city. No one bothers me and I don't bother them.
They spend most of their time in storage anyway. How is this supposedly a crime?
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