Sunday Rumors
Again, these are rumors:
- Absolutely no hiring and no promotions for 2010 and 2011. The Department will intentionally go under 10,000 cops and keep it there. Timekeepers and all other secretaries will be civilian jobs. All able-bodied inside folk are out on the street June 1. NO Sgts or Lts will have permanent inside jobs (other than district desk Sgts), all will be on the street. Lts not assigned to districts will go to any district and watch the department designates at any time (its about to go from the best job in the department to the worst). Inside people will report directly to the commander. All sick and injured officers will be sent inside or forced onto disability. The department hopes that forcing people on the street will give them an additional 500-1000 retirements.
And my favorite:
EVERYBODY in uniform starting June 1, including dicks.
The "no hiring" part of the rumor is wrong as there are 60 recruits poised to start the Academy before the end of April. The rest of it though....
We've been getting a lot in e-mails about full duty people being launched from HQ. With the contract approval coming up shortly, the City is looking to empty the medical rolls and that means either Return to Duty or Forced Disability. There's going to be a ceiling on the number of people allowed to be on extended light/limited duty and it's going to be political. It's also has the potential to be very ugly.
We've been getting a lot in e-mails about full duty people being launched from HQ. With the contract approval coming up shortly, the City is looking to empty the medical rolls and that means either Return to Duty or Forced Disability. There's going to be a ceiling on the number of people allowed to be on extended light/limited duty and it's going to be political. It's also has the potential to be very ugly.
Labels: rumors
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
201 Comments:
Will Daley and Burke's 30 bodyguard, lickspittles have to be in uniform?
Detectives in uniform , looks like they'll have to start spending uniform allowance.
look for more retirements in D unit
As a dick I don't care. Put me in uniform. Its all smoke and mirrors.
got this from another post..
A buddy of mine just informed me that the family who tried to kill A 1 HGS Det. PJ have taken residence in Mt. Greenwood at 11130 S. Spaulding. The Selvie's are a cop fighting family, so 022 will have there hands full. You don't have to worry about working in 007, they are coming to you!
-008 copper
--That's not good. The Selvies are big in the 009th district around 50th & Halsted/Peoria area. Nobody ever called the po-po on them. Big time dope and guns. Be careful 022.
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ok 022... no more fkn around. now its getting serious. I know people bitch and complain about burglaries in the neighborhood and all that but now this is for real.. ive dealt with the selvies for years and they are bad bad news. you will definatly have to take the fight to them. if 022 cant do it(and im not trying to cut 022 down at all..im just sayin that district guys are limited in what can actually get done) then area 2 gun teams, gang teams and GEU need to step up and target this house every single day. I know its not worth it anymore but someone has to take one for the neighborhood and do some old school policing here to get these jagoffs out... way too many coppers(including myself) live close to these mutts... Im sure your all saying "do it yourself and do the real police work"... wish I could boys.. ive got 34 years on, bad knees, bad back, and way to crotchety of an attituide to do police work... im banished away to an inside spot far far away(hey, at least I can admit it!).. we need a couple of good young coppers to go out there and kick some ass and take care of this problem before it gets out of control... and trust me, it will get out of control. ive dealt with these assholes for a long long time in 009 and in gangs south. they are not guys to toy around with.. its got to get done quick and get done right... good luck boys and girls... ive got some stapeling and pencil sharpening to do... pitiful!!
the fact this begins with misinformation makes the rest seem out there.
Whopee! Just tell what time to show up and then (more importantly) what time I can go home! I'll wear my ninja outfit everyday if they want plus light up beat tag, light up name tag, and light up star #!
They should change the message on the recruiting page of the dep't website to read:
"come join the CPD where there is absolutely no way to advance your career past patrol"
Even if you scored unbelievably good on the tests, you still can't get promoted. It really sucks.
Anyone who came on the job with any ambition at all about possibly moving up the ranks mine as well quite and go to another dep't. You are and forever will be stuck in that blue shirt.
How old is too old to start a law enforcement career somewhere else?
A whole different state perhaps. I'm pretty young (early 30's) and have close to 10 years on here.
Civilian tac secretaries? Doubt it.
major impossibility unless handing out a police report to a victim is like giving them a coupon for little ceasers pizza--- here's your piece of paper because you are the victim of a crime--- now call your insurance company and file a claim or just eat the loss because we can guarantee you that their will be no investigation of your complaint because their is no one to investigate it.. pathetic...
well a long time po timekeeper in a very cushy spot has been redeployed to the streets. we're talking 20 plus year timekeeper.
Si i'd say this is spot on true!!!!!
I'm on light duty and was asked or more like grilled by a lazy ass Sgt, about how long i expect to b on light duty! this is from an IOD that I can't get follow up treatment due to the Conventry insurance denying everything.
Able bodies on the street..Oh my all the clout babies..2 year wonders, it will get ugly.
Here's a Sunday rumor for ya all....today's a Monday!
This plan probably looks good on paper to the number crunchers, but I doubt that it will do anything more than an attempt at "smoke and mirrors." Management has not invested in its manpower and is now paying the price - no or slow hires, no promotions, and no willingness to take responsibility for the disintegration of the department. It is being done with our vehicles and now with our manpower. The vehicles are being resurrected and thrown back out on the street in whatever running shape the mechanics can get the car into, all the while "rotating" the use of vehicles which will result in the cars all coming to their useful lives about the same time. Without a plan to replace either manpower or vehicles due to attrition, you will end up without vehicles, and as we are now seeing, end up without manpower. Stay tuned to see who will end up taking the hit for poor planning. You need to hire today to replace the retiree of 2012. Acknowledging the time in the training academy and the probationary time on the street, it is almost a 2 year journey. I am fearing the worst and hoping for the best.
......these rumors are causing a great deal of stress on people within the department. I understand that there will be changes in everything. That's life. But when you have legitimate hard working people trying to remain focused on doing work, whether it be arrests, search warrants, very proactive police work,etc.,the hard working people are starting to doubt the very system to continue to do the work. I am seeing this on a daily basis. Some people think it's funny, but some are really confused and making some decisions already about leaving places based on these internal movements within the department. This is really sad. I can not fathom how all this is going to play out, but truly it ain't going to be a good thing. There were talented people out here trying to make a difference and now they are just going through the motions. It is sad. Very sad.
Exactly how will putting house mouses on the street help anything? They went inside for a reason. The ones I see occasionally forced to work the street are scared little secretaries with guns. I certainly do not want one of them behind me with a drawn weapon. All having them on the street will do is tie up resources when they are constantly calling for assistance when they are forced to get out of the car. Remember the Closed Market cars? I think they made 2 arrests during their existence.
Just got out of work tonight SCC, your post couldn't be more on target. But here is another rumor. You know that uniform allowance we get, well get this. Hold on to your hats. THE CPD UNIFORM IS CHANGING COLORS AND DESIGN. BY THIS SUMMER OUR UNIFORM ALLOWANCE IS GOING TO BE USED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER TO GET A WHOLE NEW WARDDROBE. The idea is to get cops to be really forced to give up the special fund we know as uniform allowance. SCC, the department wants us to be the same in every way. That means everyone will have to have the same everything on their uniform belt. No deviations of any kind. Wait, this is no bullcrap. This is going to be our future. By this time next year, the department will have everyone cloned into their version of a CPD police officer. THE HANDGUN WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE SAME FOR EVERYONE, BUT CHANGES WERE MADE TO INCLUDE DIFFERENT GUNS. THAT WILL BE THE ONLY DIFFERENT THING. WE ARE REALLY GOING DOWN FAST.
We need a mayor that actually likes the police.
What a jackass.
Uniform change I believe they have to give you the first issue. Not all house mouses are useless some did pretty good police work when they worked the street. You've got a few who work inside that have 20 plus yrs so don't put everybody in the same class
Out of all thr rumors listed, the only one I see as inevitable is manpower. We will never go back to 13,000. This whole clusterf@*! with manpower shortages is nothing more than a experiment by city hall and 35th to see just how many P.O's they can cut from our ranks and still function. 99units will be the norm. The district P.O's job has become more difficult and more dangerous. The case backlog in the D unit will probably be permanent because their ranks will be smaller by design also. Unless common sense prevails, we are one major catastrophy from disaster. Stay safe, watch each others backs.
These are just rumors. F-Fed is real short of time on this job. The next Boss will change things in a different direction. Maybe more coppers hired. And to the dick head who hates other cops because they work other then a beat car, wake up fool. Maybe one of these old timers may want whatever spot it is that you have and just take by seniority.
THE CPD UNIFORM IS CHANGING COLORS AND DESIGN. BY THIS SUMMER OUR UNIFORM ALLOWANCE IS GOING TO BE USED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER TO GET A WHOLE NEW WARDDROBE.
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Hey newbie, any required uniforms must be issued by the city first and there is now way in hell that's going to happen.
If you didn't see this coming you are a complete moron. Why can't detectives be in uniform? They dont need to be in C.D. They are there after the fact and not in a covert capacity!
Put everyone back in a district. We need the help here. Rapid cars from northside districts arent helping the homefront. Put those inside people back in a beat cat and then at least it looks like we have more people than we actually do. I would rather have two inside officers driving around my neighborhood than no one at all.
City is looking to empty the medical rolls and that means either Return to Duty or Forced Disability. There's going to be a ceiling on the number of people allowed to be on extended light/limited duty and it's going to be political. It's also has the potential to be very ugly.
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The city has been emptying those rolls for years now. My old partner was one of the first. He came back after a back injury suffered on duty. He worked for an additional 10 years.
As for the limited/light duty folks. I have four words:
American with Disabilities Act.
You create light/limited duty with a restirction that it is only for IOD's the city has a big problem then.
They either have it or they don't.
Also, if you have ONE officer working an inside job that can be preformed by someone on light/limited duty then the full duty guy has to give it up!
To: 4/11/2010 03:29:00 AM
The city can be my guest and change ANYTHING they want about the uniform. I could care less.
Won't cost me or the other 8000 officers a dime!
Per the contract - city has to purchase first issue on any uniform change!
I don't think the city can afford it!
Just got out of work tonight SCC, your post couldn't be more on target. But here is another rumor. You know that uniform allowance we get, well get this. Hold on to your hats. THE CPD UNIFORM IS CHANGING COLORS AND DESIGN. BY THIS SUMMER OUR UNIFORM ALLOWANCE IS GOING TO BE USED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER TO GET A WHOLE NEW WARDDROBE. The idea is to get cops to be really forced to give up the special fund we know as uniform allowance. SCC, the department wants us to be the same in every way. That means everyone will have to have the same everything on their uniform belt. No deviations of any kind. Wait, this is no bullcrap. This is going to be our future. By this time next year, the department will have everyone cloned into their version of a CPD police officer. THE HANDGUN WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE SAME FOR EVERYONE, BUT CHANGES WERE MADE TO INCLUDE DIFFERENT GUNS. THAT WILL BE THE ONLY DIFFERENT THING. WE ARE REALLY GOING DOWN FAST.
No way the Dept.'s going to pop for a department-wide first issue. That rumor's BS!
Off Topic: Retired Sgt. Northen's comments concerning the 'J-Fled' fiasco are printed in today's Steinberg column in the Scum-Times.
Check it out.
What this the "post the biggest bullshit rumor you can think of" post? Hey Mr. Uniform Allowance on Hold-Design Change- You are full of it! If they changed everything - they would have to pay for it. ANYTHNG - first issue of anything is on the Department-they must pay for it - not out of the Uniform allowance. You're just messing with people asshat!
When the dept changes anything mandatory in the unform policy don't they have to purchase the first one for everyone? Jusk Axeing.....
How about releasing that IAD report on the medical abusers, which group exploits the medical or would that be politically incorrect.
Sounds like the same clown that said they were sending all gang teams and gun teams and sat teams back to their units. Clown has nothing better to do than to state what they believe is reality.
The mayors detail is already on light duty.
If half of them went to work, it should fill a complete district for one shift.
I say go ahead!!!!
Nope. Almost nothing in this is true. City Hall wants us to 11,500. That's it. There will be one, maybe two more recruit classes this year after the one next week. There will be no promotions in 2010, yes in 2011. The Department has asked to promote, the Hall says no.
Dicks will NOT be in uniform, most specialized units will, however. No wholesale reassignment of supervisors.
The beat assignment plan will reduce the number of beats and possibly sectors to 2 in each district, thereby reducing on paper the need for POs and Sgts. Field Lts. will be a thing of the past. Capts. will still be WCs where they are.
So relax. We're short of what we once were, and will get shorter. Get used to it. The Hall doesn't care if a PO has to handle 10 jobs instead of only 8 (or whatever ratio you choose to use).
Daley wanted Donahue to push the pension revision so that it'd be easier to get POs on disability and take them off the public rolls of light and convalescent duty, thus making the pension pick up the tab. Our dwindling pension.
Free Bill Cozzi.
When they put all the detectives in uniform after 9/11 we had the interesting social phenomena that victims were less likely to cooperate during interviews. It seemed that on a subconcious level they wanted "real detectives" in a shirt and tie. Personally, I could care less, but if this comes to pass it will be interesting to see the effect on the clear rate.
I call BS on the new uniform rumor...unless the new contract changes things, if the department mandates new, required uniform changes, they HAVE TO pay for the initial issue.
A buddy of mine just informed me that the family who tried to kill A 1 HGS Det. PJ have taken residence in Mt. Greenwood at 11130 S. Spaulding. The Selvie's are a cop fighting family, so 022 will have there hands full. You don't have to worry about working in 007, they are coming to you!
The owner on the tax records is
RITA STECICH. Mailing address is the same on spaulding. If anyone knows this lady, feel free to express your disapproval. Did these clowns have anything to do with the battery and attempted battery on 112th Friday night. 3 shitheads arrested in a white Pontiac that night. Are they being charged with hate crimes?
City should offer 20 and out 50% at any age. Everyone wins. My worst nightmare is to be over 50 and still living in this shithole.
"THE CPD UNIFORM IS CHANGING COLORS AND DESIGN. BY THIS SUMMER OUR UNIFORM ALLOWANCE IS GOING TO BE USED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER TO GET A WHOLE NEW WARDDROBE."
Bullshit! Every week there is a new OPTIONAL uniform item approved. The open top mag and cuff case, the zip up and pull over sweater and the star and name plate sewn on to your outer garment and vest cover just to name a few. They don't want us to look the same.
If you were really a P/O you would already know that any changes to the prescribed uniform and/or equipment will have to be purchased by the city and given to all department members hired prior to the effective date the change goes into effect. Costing the city a ton of money they claim they don’t have. Like the flashlight, mace and turtle gear the city gave me for free.
If you wanted to spread a more believable rumor then you should have said…
The FOP has agreed to give up the annual uniform allowance in exchange for a politically connected uniform commissary just like CFD has. All equipment will be issued by the commissary and damaged uniform items can be replaced at the commissary. However all uniform items will be issued/exchanged once a year at a one for one rate of exchange (you give them one old shirt and they give you one new or slightly used one) and if there is a fluctuation in weight and uniform items need to be replaced for that reason alone the cost of the replacement uniform will be the officers responsibility. All uniform items must be returned to the commissary when a P/O resigns, retires, dies, is fired or takes a leave of absence for any reason.
All uniform allowance pay issued by the city to all city agencies is terminated effective 01 Jan 2011 saving the city an estimated 50 to 75 million dollars a year.
The new uniform will be dark navy blue in color. Your star and name tag will be sewn on all garments issued with the exception of the dress uniform.
All P/O’s will be issued two field uniforms(one short sleeve, one long sleeve), one tactical uniform, one tactical training uniform, one dress uniform, one three season filed jacket, and one tactical jacket, one pair of oxford shoes and one pair of combat boots. All leather duty gear, nylon tactical gear and riot gear with gas mask.
my family used to own a single family home on W.114th St between Homan Av /St Louis St its a good thing it was sold alomost 10 years ago cause now the neighbors will be subjected to "rocks & blows", dat.dat.dat.dat.dat.dat.dat. loud reports!
Hows that apathy thing working out?? Instead of fighting the beast where it lives, its coming to us. I will not allow myself or my family to be victimized by these scumbags...what side of this fight are you on?? This is a question that people need to ask themselves.
"How old is too old to start a law enforcement career somewhere else?
A whole different state perhaps. I'm pretty young (early 30's) and have close to 10 years on here."
You have to be under 37 for federal jobs. Early 30's is fine. There are a lot of lateral opportunities out of state where you can be hired even if you're older if you're in good shape. Go check the "careers" section of officer.com or policeone.com, there are usually a lot of departments in Arizona, CA & Washington state looking for lateral hires.
I wouldn't look in the Chicago area, it seems like even the suburbs that are testing aren't actually hiring.
when will j fled demand his command staff put all the hidden caps , clerical police officers back on the street.
citizens of chicago have 1 man units responding to calls and at minimum 10 police officers are assigned to clerical duties in every station
it's a joke that j fled can't clean out the gun toting office clerks at $60,000 + a year salary
Nobody was hired to be a housecat. I have no sympathy for people unwilling to work the street.
Hey whats that noise? That would be all those detectives whining about the upcoming changes!
Have to say, that I really dont care if they thin the heard of a lot of useless people that ride the medical...as for the uniform change...they have been wanting to to this change for a long time...the problem is...the first issue being paid for by the city....they want a new york style uniform...we have way to many variations...you can put three cops standing next to each other, and you will have them all wearing different belts, sweaters, jackets ect....its been a long time coming with the dept. heads...they think we look sloppy...they have been figuring out on how to make us pay for it...so just so you know...its coming.
Just got out of work tonight SCC, your post couldn't be more on target. But here is another rumor. You know that uniform allowance we get, well get this. Hold on to your hats. THE CPD UNIFORM IS CHANGING COLORS AND DESIGN. BY THIS SUMMER OUR UNIFORM ALLOWANCE IS GOING TO BE USED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER TO GET A WHOLE NEW WARDDROBE. The idea is to get cops to be really forced to give up the special fund we know as uniform allowance. SCC, the department wants us to be the same in every way. That means everyone will have to have the same everything on their uniform belt. No deviations of any kind. Wait, this is no bullcrap. This is going to be our future. By this time next year, the department will have everyone cloned into their version of a CPD police officer. THE HANDGUN WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE SAME FOR EVERYONE, BUT CHANGES WERE MADE TO INCLUDE DIFFERENT GUNS. THAT WILL BE THE ONLY DIFFERENT THING. WE ARE REALLY GOING DOWN FAST.
If they madated a new uniform the would have to purchase first issue. I would assume that the FOP would require them to REPLACE all of the uniforms we purchased. so I have to call BullShit
I hope this is true. I have come across way too many "officers" who will tell you flat out to your face they are on this job to pay for their education and then pulling out. While they do this, they hide inside and are desk bitches. Pathetic.
And as an officer who loves working the streets, does this mean IAD will get off their ass and let me back? I have been rotting away down at call-back for over 2 years now with no charges or anything! It is getting old and starting to make me a little bitter. They better do it soon or I may be one of those who just don't care anymore and want to work a desk.
OT: Daily Herald article, why some are already trying to roll back pension reforms. The last paragraph should be of interest to all. Maybe just maybe its time to get off our collective asses and march again with or without our so-called union.
Daily Herald:
"If anything, there are discussions about bringing similar reforms to other budgets," Brown said, referring to police and fire pensions which were not affected by last month's changes. "I think the idea would be to embrace all of the (pension) funds."
Daily Herald staff writer Kerry Lester contributed to this report.
I also heard the uniforms are changing. They will be shirts with yellow stries down the back and brown stains on the ass of the pants to commemorate J-Fled.
how do you squeeze a lemon that s already been squeezed out? maybe some truth out of the 5th floor is needed here. we ve been discussing manpower shortages for about 3 years here. the media likes to troll this site. why dont they ask the ''big man''?
To all of you hard chargers, keep it up and see where it gets you. No promotions for the foreseeable future. No units with out a phone call. Possibly forced off If you are injured, hurt, or long term illness.
Put on the blinders, answer your calls, write paper whenever you can, go home safe.
Is the policy group hitting the street? Or are they too valuble?
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Civilian tac secretaries? Doubt it.
4/11/2010 01:24:00 AM
This is a great idea! Now they can hire more gangbangers to work actually inside CPD, instead of just working for Ceasefire and beat facilitators. (sp)
WOW whats next? and its not even summer yet,buckle up boyz and girlz
Re: uniform changes.
First Issue.
We now resume our regular ranting.
Dude owns 018. Gangbangers all over Michigan Ave., Water Tower, the lakefront. Homeless dudes motherfucking tourists and attacking them when they don't give them money. Drinking out on the street. No manpower to stop them.
Anonymous said...
......these rumors are causing a great deal of stress on people within the department. I understand that there will be changes in everything. That's life. But when you have legitimate hard working people trying to remain focused on doing work, whether it be arrests, search warrants, very proactive police work,etc.,the hard working people are starting to doubt the very system to continue to do the work. I am seeing this on a daily basis. Some people think it's funny, but some are really confused and making some decisions already about leaving places based on these internal movements within the department. This is really sad. I can not fathom how all this is going to play out, but truly it ain't going to be a good thing. There were talented people out here trying to make a difference and now they are just going through the motions. It is sad. Very sad.
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Guess the wheel-gunners were right after all.
Just got out of work tonight SCC, your post couldn't be more on target. But here is another rumor. You know that uniform allowance we get, well get this. Hold on to your hats. THE CPD UNIFORM IS CHANGING COLORS AND DESIGN. BY THIS SUMMER OUR UNIFORM ALLOWANCE IS GOING TO BE USED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER TO GET A WHOLE NEW WARDDROBE. The idea is to get cops to be really forced to give up the special fund we know as uniform allowance. SCC, the department wants us to be the same in every way. That means everyone will have to have the same everything on their uniform belt. No deviations of any kind. Wait, this is no bullcrap. This is going to be our future. By this time next year, the department will have everyone cloned into their version of a CPD police officer. THE HANDGUN WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE SAME FOR EVERYONE, BUT CHANGES WERE MADE TO INCLUDE DIFFERENT GUNS. THAT WILL BE THE ONLY DIFFERENT THING. WE ARE REALLY GOING DOWN FAST.
4/11/2010 03:29:00 AM
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Don't worry about it kid.
If you ever attended an FOP meeting or read your contract booklet, you would know that FOP has a (3) member "uniform and equipment advisory committee" that gives input to R & D regarding additions or deletions to the department's uniform regulations.
Anytime major changes to CPD uniform or equipment program are anticipated, they (CPD) must notify FOP advisory committee.
Lastly, Section 21-4 Uniform change or modification, states "The employer shall pay for the first issue of any change in, or modification of, the prescribed uniform announced and effective after November 15, 1981."
NOW OF COURSE THIS COULD ALL BE NULL AND VOID IF THE FOP SOLD US OUT ON THIS ISSUE, THIS TIME AROUND. WE'LL KNOW VERY SOON.
I can't imagine the city will be pushing this uniform change, due to the cost involved..UNLESS Patrick Daley and Vanenko get the contract to provide said uniforms!
O/T- did ya see the cardboard fileing cabinet in the area5? what the hell is that about? Di they run out of places to keep their crayons?
Ha Ha, gotta run.....
To 3:29am, you are totally off base. By contract all mandatory changes to uniforms and equipment must be provided by the City. That is the reason we have revolvers, CFS semi autos, DAO autos and Striker fired weapons alll on the street now.
The dark blue shirts have been talked about for over 20 years.
To the post about everyone having a "uniform" uniform:
It's about time. For about 5 years now we've looked like a bunch of idiots. One guy wearing this, one guy wearing that. Baseball hats! WTF.
Hears to a return to a mire professional looking department.
What do you expect? If you look at the national news there are police/fire layoffs all over the place.
The 60 recruits are from a Federal Grant to beef up both airports. So in theory there is no actual hiring. Look for in house special employment in patrol. Look for the house cowards to be deployed to units where they can't get their nails broken or the front of their pants soiled.
Where do these idiotic rumors come from. Take the one about the whole new uniform. Nonsense, according to the contract the city has to supply the first part of any uniform change Thats why they brought in automatics, but allowed old timers to still carry thie revolvers and when the new rules in the academy are that every recruit has to purchase a Glock, but no other po has to be required to carry a Glock or the City would have to pay for the first one. They have no money for new uniforms. Go back and make yp a new rumor
If you have cancer or heart problems yet no clout get ready.
If your name is John Thomas no need to worry your family will be taken care of- who received Line of duty benefits when he died of a heart attack at home in bed on his days off. This sickens me when I see other officers thrown under the bus.
Affirmative action, liberal discipline, CAPS, merit promotions, lack of uniformity ect, ect, ect, does take its toll. Good luck/try to stay safe.
First issue !!
The department will always hide clout heavy full duty females inside as secretaries and time keepers. Some are excellent secretaries and are a asset to a unit. But a full duty officer as a time keeper? Ridiculous. Anyone can do timekeeping. Keep the position for a light duty officer. Put full duty time keepers back on the street. Then limit the amount of full duty secretaries. There has to be some balance and common sense. I miss the days when veteran officers worked inside that offered their wisdom and advice.
Inside spots are there for a reason. They're secretaries with guns. Do we really want these people on the streets? I don't.
If you want to help out patrol, get rid of Tru, Msf, geu, and all those area spots.
Concerning 11130 Spaulding - This is a little too close too home I agree. Everyone who has a take home squad (or even if you are CFD a buggy) drive down their block on the way home. You don't have to stop...just drive down...with all of the covert/unmarked in the neighborhood that should be about 30 a day minimum...We need to pull together on this one....call on everything...Start getting 2211 back over here and out of Roseland...
There are alot of positive aspects to this rumor. The biggest one is gettin' all those inside people out on the street where they belong. All the paper pushing bullshit CAN and SHOULD be done by civilians who don't have to be paid what a sworn officer makes. If some or most of this goes through it will inevitably cause a big tsunami, but fuck it, it's just something we'll have to go through. Too many clerical jobs that should never be held by officers.
I'd think twice before I start pushing injured working policemen inside or rushing them back to the street....While there are some po's that are milking the iod-med system, MOST ARE LEGIT. I have a legit IOD and hobble around like an aged hype...what good am I going to be rushed back to the street a few weeks too soon? Policework is a contact sport. Production without injury is not realistic. There is only ONE thing a working copper truly fears...HAVING TO WORK INSIDE. We got hurt getting those numbers, so to punish us by sending us inside while we heal from our surgeries or therapy will only make us STOP WORKING in the future. I'd direct my energy to weeding out those that are taking advantage of the system before I throw the baby out with the bath water. JFED has not done this job, so has no clue that this will effect the morale of those that are still working. Gee, I busted my ass (literally), and, as a reward, I get to work the desk for a month or two? The crappiest job with the worst hours? Thanks!
Anonymous said...
Just got out of work tonight SCC, your post couldn't be more on target. But here is another rumor. You know that uniform allowance we get, well get this. Hold on to your hats. THE CPD UNIFORM IS CHANGING COLORS AND DESIGN. BY THIS SUMMER OUR UNIFORM ALLOWANCE IS GOING TO BE USED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER TO GET A WHOLE NEW WARDDROBE. The idea is to get cops to be really forced to give up the special fund we know as uniform allowance. SCC, the department wants us to be the same in every way. That means everyone will have to have the same everything on their uniform belt. No deviations of any kind. Wait, this is no bullcrap. This is going to be our future. By this time next year, the department will have everyone cloned into their version of a CPD police officer. THE HANDGUN WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE SAME FOR EVERYONE, BUT CHANGES WERE MADE TO INCLUDE DIFFERENT GUNS. THAT WILL BE THE ONLY DIFFERENT THING. WE ARE REALLY GOING DOWN FAST.
4/11/2010 03:29:00 AM
Settle down francis... if true, this will be 'first issue' and ours will be free. I like free.
Section 21.4 — Uniform Change or Modification.
The Employer shall pay for the first issue of any change
in, or modification of, the prescribed uniform announced
and effective after November 15, 1981.
So much for your whole new uniform this summer
03:29am, you may be right on, but I believe that a new uniform design would be a "first issue" and paid for by the Department/City!
But let us keep D.Z.a civilian making 85,000 a year doing NOTHING and all the LIGHT DUTY PO Secretaries carrying a gun-NOT- putting together a blood drive and bowling weekend together in Special Activity. What a fucking waste of manpower. Dare and Great officers-another waste-can work out of the Districts. Hello IAD and JOHN KASS. These PO s can be on the street all summer on BEAT CARS since there be no school. They duck and frick off all day. I know this and don't even work in the whatever Unit # that is.
Anonymous Said: By this time next year, the department will have everyone cloned into their version of a CPD police officer.
Yo, new guy, it is called a "uniform" for a reason. We are all supposed to look alike. Same shirt, pants, hat, etc. The idea is that when someone approachs you they know exactly who you are by the way you look and present yourself. As much as a I liked Cline as Supe, some of the changes to the uniform he made were brutal. The main one was the ball cap. Gotta go. All the variations are ridiculous. Anyhow, if they change the uniform and require you to wear it, the department, by contract, must buy the first issue. So, while the uniform regs might be changing, they aren't going to make any new items "required" because the department won't spend the money. So quit getting your panties in a bunch. But, when you wear your uniform, have a little pride in the way you look, so you don't come off looking like a Digby security guard.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just got out of work tonight SCC, your post couldn't be more on target. But here is another rumor. You know that uniform allowance we get, well get this. Hold on to your hats. THE CPD UNIFORM IS CHANGING COLORS AND DESIGN. BY THIS SUMMER OUR UNIFORM ALLOWANCE IS GOING TO BE USED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER TO GET A WHOLE NEW WARDDROBE. The idea is to get cops to be really forced to give up the special fund we know as uniform allowance. SCC, the department wants us to be the same in every way. That means everyone will have to have the same everything on their uniform belt. No deviations of any kind. Wait, this is no bullcrap. This is going to be our future. By this time next year, the department will have everyone cloned into their version of a CPD police officer. THE HANDGUN WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE SAME FOR EVERYONE, BUT CHANGES WERE MADE TO INCLUDE DIFFERENT GUNS. THAT WILL BE THE ONLY DIFFERENT THING. WE ARE REALLY GOING DOWN FAST.
4/11/2010 03:29:00 AM
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Nice try. Any Major Alterations to the Uniform that all of us are required to wear must be paid for by the city at the first issue of the Uniform. They tried that a couple of years ago and lost. That is why we have so many different types of jackets and pants.
How old is too old to start a law enforcement career somewhere else?
A whole different state perhaps. I'm pretty young (early 30's) and have close to 10 years on here.
4/11/2010 01:03:00 AM
DO IT NOW. You will foreve regret it like the rest of us who was toying with the idea just like you. I am sick to say becoming a chicago policeman was the worst decision I ever made in my life. Whats even sicker is that I still try and work hard and share information and do the right thing, because of personal pride and the men next to me, not above me. Please get yourself out of here, this is not a safe nor sane environment to work.
Remember the A4 supply scandal?
it was me!! Im stocking up to run my own police dept. starting 01 Jun 10..report to 011 radio room for your assignments..no uniforms, carry any weapon you want.tasers for everyone oh and ill be screening 911 calls, no more bs reports or bs alarms or noise bs or selling bs or..damn where do i stop..Here, I'll make this easy.. report to me, go be the police and go home, the only numbers u need are my cell to tell me you love this "new" dept. LIFM...ok going back to sleep now...
That's just it "rumors"! There will be another class of Sgts and Lts and Dets........
J-Pud's driver sent to the streets.....his inside Sgt (W.B) sent to the street...... watch for them making merit............
Det's in uniform, will never happen..... B S!!!!
Off Subject here. Anyone knows who owns the Bentley around St. Sabina's.
How old is too old to start a law enforcement career somewhere else?
A whole different state perhaps. I'm pretty young (early 30's) and have close to 10 years on here.
4/11/2010 01:03:00 AM
Do it now. Start making inquiries to other departments. You will only live with the "what-ifs" if you don't. If I didn't have less that 5 yrs I'd get the hell out too.
Anonymous said...
How old is too old to start a law enforcement career somewhere else?
A whole different state perhaps. I'm pretty young (early 30's) and have close to 10 years on here.
4/11/2010 01:03:00 AM
You can do it. go for it. just get hired elsewhere first, then leave this joke town ASAP. This City is imploding fast.
Anonymous said...
Just got out of work tonight SCC, your post couldn't be more on target. But here is another rumor. You know that uniform allowance we get, well get this. Hold on to your hats. THE CPD UNIFORM IS CHANGING COLORS AND DESIGN. BY THIS SUMMER OUR UNIFORM ALLOWANCE IS GOING TO BE USED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER TO GET A WHOLE NEW WARDDROBE. The idea is to get cops to be really forced to give up the special fund we know as uniform allowance. SCC, the department wants us to be the same in every way. That means everyone will have to have the same everything on their uniform belt. No deviations of any kind. Wait, this is no bullcrap. This is going to be our future. By this time next year, the department will have everyone cloned into their version of a CPD police officer. THE HANDGUN WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE SAME FOR EVERYONE, BUT CHANGES WERE MADE TO INCLUDE DIFFERENT GUNS. THAT WILL BE THE ONLY DIFFERENT THING. WE ARE REALLY GOING DOWN FAST.
4/11/2010 03:29:00 AM
I'll be retired by time the grievances and arbitration and lawsuits are finished. Fuck this place, fuck jody weis and fuck jagoff daley.
Inorder to be eligible for cha sec. 8 housing in chicago ill you have to pass a background check....check it out
is this info true about cop fighting family?
who passed them making them eligible?
How about the Corporation Counsel's office? Sweet gig for the politically connected. Every police officer there is sponsored by Ed Burke. They need to GO to patrol! Let the CC hire private investigators from out of their budget, instead of using CPD resources.
And, how about City Hall? A bunch of baby faced police officers that are ALL politically connected being used as security. They need to GO to patrol! Let the Hall pay for private security out of its budget, not CPD's budget.
And, police headquareters? Hire private security as hall monitors instead of using all those full-duty supervisors and police officers. They can hire private security and simultaneously save a load of dough, while returning full-duty reinforcements to patrol.
Sound ludicrous? Sound rickdiculous? Hardly. The 911 Center, the very place where radio transmissions originate for CPD and CFD, has replaced light-duty police officers with private security. They took the police officers out of there and replaced them with private security because balloon head & body Loonie-tenant Bob Weiskopf wanted them back to answer phone calls at the most important place in the world, his call back unit.
Private security at the 911 Center is a disaster waiting to happen, but if these goofs feel it is good enough for one city department, why isn't it good enough for all city departments?
All of the CPD people should be returned to CPD, including all the sworn member's on the the bloated, wasteful and ridiculously large Matyor's Detail. Let that jagoff, duh mare, hire private security to be his chauffeurs and valets. If it is good for one, it should be good for all. Bring our people, all our people, home to patrol! We need them!
I say b.s. some of those inside spots are bid, and state law requires that one sworn member must work in the lock up. It could be done if marky totally sold us out and daley pulls strings down state. I'm all in favor for more P.O.'s on the street, just dont see it happening to that extent.
To all citizens of Chicago, please register to vote before the 2011mayoral election day. And, on that day, please remember to vote appropriately and dick Daley so he cannot continue to dick us. Election Day will be here before you know it.
This has a public service announcement.
Dicks in uniform? Good, that means I won't have to drop the handcuffs at the checkout counter.
I have two pair of cuffs, one is damaged from years of hitting the floor and the other is in good shape to put on suspects if I ever find one.
Is Sear's open in the middle of the night?
We have a society that has decided to become ambivelent towards it police if not even enemies.
Maybe by flushing HQ of all the able bodies maybe it will cut down the amount of paper, and nonsense coming out of that building. Think about it- There are some in that building that have never worked the streets after probation. Should be an interesting summer.
Great obit on p. 26 of today's Sunday Tribune on our beloved Mike Lukas (STEPCEVICH), our host at "Mike's", 1318 W. Webster Ave. in Lincoln Park. With Father Tom presiding, there was a poignant ceremony at the cemetery with grizzled coppers's whiskey toasts to the best friend the CPD could have ever had.
"The Slammer" (2401 W. Belmont Ave.) was a great "cop bar" but "Mike's" was the nationwide ultimate. Word has it that some of our highest ranking and respected bosses (only "good" ones) made critical operational and administrative decisions that were implemented the very next day.
Coppers from all over the city, even visiting NYPD and LAPD, would pile in around the witching hour to commiserate over a few cold ones joined by scores of buxom young women. Gladys and her homemade holiday spreads of turkey with all the trimmings were mouth-watering. Living was good. I feel sad for you relatively new jacks. Gone forever.
Laughs and more laughs. Complete decompression from a night of chasing bad guys. Then there were the mutts from Cabrini-Green that actually came in for a stick-up. Fuckin' hysterical. Jingling Swiss cheese ventilation on tap. It was memorialized in "Code of Silence" with Chuck Norris and our own Dennis Farina, CPD dick turned movie actor.
They were the best of times and the worst (excluding the Stuttering Prick and the Coward) of times. The camaraderie was intense back in those most violent years.
There is one tune by Meatloaf that always reminds me of Mike's before the crack of dawn: "Paradise by the Dashboard Lights".
A far distant second choice for inside the saloon: "I Fought the Law (and the Law Won)"
God! We will miss you, Mike.
If you didn't see this coming you are a complete moron. Why can't detectives be in uniform? They dont need to be in C.D. They are there after the fact and not in a covert capacity!
wow...your dumb. are you the type of person that this department is hiring these days?? good lord, were all screwed... looks like this guy is the next supt! what citizen have you ever spoken too in full uniform actually felt comfortable speaking with you. detectives are in a shirt and tie and pants for a reason..it takes away from the intimidation factor and makes a victim/witness feel more comfortable.. also, its professional to be in a shirt and tie and to a victim makes a detective distinct and seem like a special person that they can/should speak with... dont they teach you people common sense anymore?
This of course does not include the 1st watch, 5 years on light duty ( "I want to go back on the street, but they won't let me" ) guy from 020
We need a mayor that actually likes the police.
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I'll settle for one that doesn't hate us
A whole different state perhaps. I'm pretty young (early 30's) and have close to 10 years on here.
4/11/2010 01:03:00 AM
DO IT NOW. You will foreve regret it like the rest of us who was toying with the idea just like you. I am sick to say becoming a chicago policeman was the worst decision I ever made in my life. Whats even sicker is that I still try and work hard and share information and do the right thing, because of personal pride and the men next to me, not above me. Please get yourself out of here, this is not a safe nor sane environment to work.
4/11/2010 02:16:00 PM
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Go. I agree. Find a department that will credit your time and pension and go. If you have ten years, at least you get SOMETHING from this city, so that's a consideration. Check with the pension board.
Now, as for the response. It breaks my heart to agree with you.
I've had some really interesting jobs, and met some lifelong friends here. I often wonder what my life would have been like, if I hadn't gone to this unit or hadn't taken that assignment. I'd miss my friends? How can you miss what you never had? If we were meant to meet, we'd have met anyway? The speculation can drive you nuts.
You can't spend your life hoping it will 'get better'. And this job is not 'getting better'. And it's not going to in the near future.
Take your experience, your training, your automatic, your dog, family and car, and get the hell out of here. You will make new friends, find new experiences and be safer, saner and healthier (mentally and physically) for it.
I've been doing this for more than half my life and I used to love it. My best friend's kid is about to come on the job and I hate the idea he will be working for a department I no longer recognize. If you can leave, you should definitely go.
Who will design the new uniform? Will it be Digby's Cat Fish and BBQ Stand? Will the security type baseball hats be official? Will the city pay for the new uniforms with Digby's coupons, you know, save 20 and get a free fish sandwich or a short sleeve shirt?
Called Rep. K. Joyce's office the other day and spoke to a female by the name of Sullivan who said the 19th Ward could do nothing about the house on 11130 S. Spaulding. She was adamant that they would look into this issue only IF it became a complaint and that 022nd stationhouse is aware. She also expressed that perhaps the family will change their ways living in a nicer community. Really? Thanks for nothing 19th Ward! By the time you check into the Selvie house, it's too late. God bless you Det. PJ!
...got this from another post..
A buddy of mine just informed me that the family who tried to kill A 1 HGS Det. PJ have taken residence in Mt. Greenwood at 11130 S. Spaulding. The Selvie's are a cop fighting family, so 022 will have there hands full. You don't have to worry about working in 007, they are coming to you!
-008 copper...
Just and idea...
File one, then another ON-LINE CAPS COMMUNITY CONCERNS, Event #'s, contact cards, local cops and neighbors should know everything about them, their cars who visits and so on.
Nobody was hired to be a housecat. I have no sympathy for people unwilling to work the street.
4/11/2010 10:09:00 AM
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You are wrong, my friend. Some WERE hired only to be housecats, with their spots guaranteed by family, or politicians. Nepotism is alive and flourishing, particularly up in the area, but in many other places on the dept.
Problem is, with SO many bosses guaranteeing SO many spots, the do-nothing spots have multiplied exponentially. We now have 60% of the dept doing all the work, while the other 40% plan parties, socialize, take online classes on company time, make the lunch runs, shop, make their childcare issues everyone else's issue by coming in late and leaving early, conduct their law practices, act as informal drivers for their clout, have their 'hours changed' so their supervisors can't supervise them, work partial shifts with the blessing (read: demand) of the boss, go home and walk the dog/read the mail/watch a soap/claim they're on call so it's okay to be at home for several hours, get their nails airbrushed, compose their personal blogs, get their cars repaired, - whew! Then tell everyone how rough they have it, being a full-time law enforcement officer.
BTW, I, too, have no sympathy for those unwilling to, or mentally incapable of, working the street. They are thieves, plain and simple.
In regards to uniform, 1st issue would mean (1) pair of pants, (1) short sleeve shirt, (1) long sleeve shirt.
Now knowing how the city works with their shady contracts, I don't think this would be too hard for the city to pull off.
Daley hooks up one connected supplier with a fat contract, and the new uniforms can only be purchased from this one supplier. Now being this supplier, knowing that ~7,000-9,000 CPD are going to have to get said uniform from you only would it be far fetched this supplier "donates" all 1st issue to Daley?
Strange things happen (sadly they are the norm in Shitcago) and this isn't that far fetched.
Not hard for the uniform to be made in a way to make "cheaters" impossible to find (two-toned stripe down pant leg), trademarked styles, etc...
The sad part is to recoop the initial "donation" this supplier can charge us two or three times what we pay now for pants and shirts...
And really, how long can we go wearing only those "1st issue" items before they fail? This could be a sure win for a yet to be determined connected company with family ties to the mighty midget.
NOT A SINGLE INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER IN CHICAGO CAN FIGURE OUT THE POLICE DEPT. IS 3000 COPS SHORT???
Save $ by scrimping public safety???
Screw the wrongful death lawsuit, How about refusal to provide public safety??
Every Reverend in every shit area of this city should be demanding a doubling in POLICE PRESENCE!!!
HIRE A COP FOR EVERY ONE THAT RETIRES!!!
WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR PARK POLICE?
WHAT HAPPENED TO FOOT MEN?
WHAT HAPPENED TO FIXED POSTS?
DALEY HAPPENED!
CUT POLICE OFFICERS ACROSS THE BOARD! WORST AND BEST NEIGHBORHOODS NOW SHARE THE PAIN!!@!
C'mon people! I've got over 15 yrs on the job working in shithole districts like 002, 009, 007 and currently 008. The house on 11130 S. Spaulding ain't shit! So they are known for being drug dealers? Big deal! Be the police and stop them when they commit crime. Not that hard.
I'm tired of hearing the young hair gels fearing for their property values. grow some sack and be the police when they do bad. Simple. Class dismissed.
".. ive got 34 years on, bad knees, bad back, and way to crotchety of an attituide to do police work..."
Don't let all that bad spelling get you down.
"im banished away to an inside spot far far away"
You're on the new CPD Death Star? Swell. The Sanctuary Moon of Endor doesn't have a chance this time around.
Found this on-line, www.cityofchicago.org/careers
Bid Annoucement: # 085-10-011
Date: 3/31/10
Job Title : Aviation Security Officer
Vacancies: 18
Bid Applications due by Apr 14, 2010
Airports are looking to fill vacancies by bid tranfers? Open to certain unions locals.
City not hiring, just reallocating.
Does this mean the airports are short staffed? Where is all that ObamoGov$Money going that they can't even hire a few security guards (not police)? Need a runway or two? Few more bulldozers? Anyone noticing the ghosttown (not Bensenville) in Terminal 3?
"There are some in that building that have never worked the streets after probation. Should be an interesting summer.
4/11/2010 05:15:00 PM"
buy sock in 'Depends'.
now.
Off Subject here. Anyone knows who owns the Bentley around St. Sabina's.
4/11/2010 03:40:00 PM
Yes, I do.
Just got hired by Vegas PD "Metro". I will miss the experiences and good friends at CPD. I have 12 years but I refuse to give up everything to just live here. Vegas is in a slump but my standard of living will get better for me and my family. And i will live in a new house. Fuck you mayor and weis. you killed a proud police department
Lotso' D2A hatred here. I think you mean to direct it to those who should still be wearing their old Y.I. Stars.
My uniform still fits (albeit tightly). But don't hate, cuz' I spend more time holdin' down your Beat (& your homefront) than you do, PLAYA!
I disagree with the post that says most medical users are legit. The legit ones are in the minority. Ask the slick sergeants in 017. Dr. Summeroff comes highly recommended. First you fake or exaggerate an injury, then you go to therapy for 6 months, that doesn't work so then you get an operation, another 6 months. Bunions, toes, side-stitches, nose, shoulder-woes, a bonanza of extra months off. They are the ones ruining it for the legit ones.
Anonymous said...
Section 21.4 — Uniform Change or Modification.
The Employer shall pay for the first issue of any change
in, or modification of, the prescribed uniform announced
and effective after November 15, 1981.
So much for your whole new uniform this summer
4/11/2010 01:02:00 PM
First issue means ONE new shirt, ONE pair of pants etc. ONE, not a closet full like we all have. And if you think 42 short is going to pay to buy 13,000 shirts and pants and gunbelts, well think again.
I have an idea about a new uniform for the superintendent: Just sew a 4 inch wide stripe of bright yellow dyed 80/20 material up the back of the Supe's shirts and coats. The Supe wears that yellow streak until we get one who has proven himself to be someone we can respect.
Anonymous said...
I'd think twice before I start pushing injured working policemen inside or rushing them back to the street....While there are some po's that are milking the iod-med system, MOST ARE LEGIT. I have a legit IOD and hobble around like an aged hype...what good am I going to be rushed back to the street a few weeks too soon? Policework is a contact sport. Production without injury is not realistic. There is only ONE thing a working copper truly fears...HAVING TO WORK INSIDE.
4/11/2010 01:00:00
A real police officer would hate working inside. It is embarassing that we hide so many full duty PO's at inside jobs. I could understand that some jobs require a special skill but secretaries and time keepers? A scam for clouted officers.
To the idiot that thinks anybody can do timekeeping be my guest. You wouldn't have a clue and either do most of the civilian timekeepers. Can't wait until your time gets screwed up I'll laugh in your face
Anonymous said...
I hope this is true. I have come across way too many "officers" who will tell you flat out to your face they are on this job to pay for their education and then pulling out. While they do this, they hide inside and are desk bitches. Pathetic.
And as an officer who loves working the streets, does this mean IAD will get off their ass and let me back? I have been rotting away down at call-back for over 2 years now with no charges or anything! It is getting old and starting to make me a little bitter. They better do it soon or I may be one of those who just don't care anymore and want to work a desk.
4/11/2010 10:30:00 AM
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Many of us do not have criminal charges down there but "they" stripped us and want to justify the decision and embarrass us while keeping us off the street....MAN I have seen some medical ABUSE down there.....
These IOD/Medical abusers there would make ANY of you working coppers SICK to know that these "coppers" are obvious problems!
Regardless there are some real medical needs down there but there are also many not so old "my back hurts" types and "I have NO COMP.TIME so I hit the medical abusers" that constantly abuse!
Some of these coppers wouldn't even be able to hold $5.00 security jobs nor work as hotel clerks in ROSEMONT!
EVERYONE, but that means a "select few" (a few dozen or so from 35th) will not have to abide. Same shit, different day.
Nobody was hired to be a housecat. I have no sympathy for people unwilling to work the street.
4/11/2010 10:09:00 AM
I've done your job, you couldn't do mine with the manual
RE: Mike Lucas
Mike's bar was great for cops to go and unwind. It was a no-frills place, but he was a gentleman who made you feel welcome. I started going there in the 80's. It was close to the tracks so you would think the place would stay the same, but the development around there and the yuppie population moving in changed it for Mike's. RIP.
Anonymous said...
03:29am, you may be right on, but I believe that a new uniform design would be a "first issue" and paid for by the Department/City!
4/11/2010 01:13:00 PM
UNLESS FOP DECIDES TO WAIVE THAT REQUIREMENT IN THE CONTRACT.
IT'S NOT LIKE THEY HAVEN'T PULLED THAT SHIT BEFORE!
THE CPD UNIFORM IS CHANGING COLORS AND DESIGN.
Hopefully a nice mauve w/beige leather gear, will go well w/ those piece of crap stars we're currently carrying.
Anonymous said...
Dude owns 018. Gangbangers all over Michigan Ave., Water Tower, the lakefront. Homeless dudes motherfucking tourists and attacking them when they don't give them money. Drinking out on the street. No manpower to stop them.
4/11/2010 10:55:00 AM
Who cares??? I don't go there! Daley can kma!!!
have you heard the latest rumor, just got off work and the rumor is that weis and company will be responding to calls like cline, that he'll done a bluetooth like starks and that he wont take shit from Daley like mauer, that just it they are just rumors. hahahahahahahah
remember, these are just rumors and sarcasm. if you start relying on the blog for the latest truth's, then scc really got one over you guys, laugh at it like scc does, start worrying about things when you get a lay off slip or the shitheads move in next door to you because fellow brothers in blue, thats what is happening city wide, your next door neighbor is dude you just arrested for uuw. and guess what, he's only paying a hondo a month because he on section eight. welcome to the new detroit. i hear land up there is pretty cheap and even the shitbirds moved out. time to start looking there.
The owner on the tax records is
RITA STECICH. Mailing address is the same on spaulding. If anyone knows this lady, feel free to express your disapproval. Did these clowns have anything to do with the battery and attempted battery on 112th Friday night. 3 shitheads arrested in a white Pontiac that night. Are they being charged with hate crimes?
Also a lady with the same name listed on 11300 Central Park?
Anonymous said...
If you didn't see this coming you are a complete moron. Why can't detectives be in uniform? They dont need to be in C.D. They are there after the fact and not in a covert capacity!
4/11/2010 07:54:00 AM
U sir or mam, R A mush.
Have U ever been to a crime scene??
there is a whole psychology thing to dicks in ties, but that is lost on you.
But besides that I would love to be in uniform, I'd save $ on dry cleaning.
And yes all my shit still fits!
My wool pants R a little snug though.
Here's an idea that would work:
All sworn housecats on the street. Hire back retired PO's as civilians to fill the inside jobs. The Department could get the knowledge and experience of the police at half the price of a sworn officer!
I'm pretty sure if they make a uniform change they would have to provide you with a whole new set of uniforms,and if they made it optional you would have to buy it.
If this is the case it ain't happening.
I'm pretty sure this is in our contract, but I could be wrong.
There are alot of positive aspects to this rumor. The biggest one is gettin' all those inside people out on the street where they belong. All the paper pushing bullshit CAN and SHOULD be done by civilians
If you think Civilians screwed up 911 wait until they get their hands on other dept, It takes two civilians to do the work of one sworn member. They know it and you know it. look at the lockups??/
Good. Detectives in uniform. Then on my way to a job, I can get a TVB or a DUI and they will have to re-assign the job..
I luuuuuuuuvz it...
HAHAHAHAHAHA...
Buncha dumbasses....HAHAHAHHAHAHA
CANT WAIT....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Anonymous said...
got this from another post..
A buddy of mine just informed me that the family who tried to kill A 1 HGS Det. PJ have taken residence in Mt. Greenwood at 11130 S. Spaulding. The Selvie's are a cop fighting family, so 022 will have there hands full. You don't have to worry about working in 007, they are coming to you!
-008 copper
I don't know if this is true, as my several trips down the block at all times of day have not revealed any activity and I don't have time to sit on the house. That being said, let me say this. If you see anything that might be suspicious, DIAL 911!! Keep 2211 on our side of the tracks. And when I meet the jackasses with their pants at their knees, I always make a remark, which has caused them to stop and give me "the look". Just in case they were wondering, I tell them that "Yes, I was talking to you". I have had it, the gangbanging bullshit will NOT be accepted or ignored. I will NOT tolerate this crap in my own neighborhood. It's bad enough to see the oxygen stealing, society leaches at work. It is our responsibility to make this is a hostile environment, and if someone doesn't like it, move. I am granted by the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America the right to tell them to go (*&^ themselves. And let's face it, the gangbangers are afraid of white people who act a little crazed anyway, and if you are on the CPD, you ARE crazed.
Sorry, but I got on a soapbox.
Hows that apathy thing working out?? Instead of fighting the beast where it lives, its coming to us. I will not allow myself or my family to be victimized by these scumbags...what side of this fight are you on?? This is a question that people need to ask themselves.
4/11/2010 09:42:00 AM
If you have not already done so, teach the wife/GF and college aged kids to shoot. Home protection at its finest. Dont forget reloading and retention.
I have one for you and this isn't a rumor it's fact. There is a guy I know who received DUTY DISABILITY for bronchitis. He has been getting 75 or 80% of his pay and a monthly stipend for his kids until they turned 18 plus some tax breaks for many years .He gets that untill he turns 63 then goes to the normal pension of a 29 yr guy.IMO he is capable of doing something on the dep't since he is able to work a different job and I don't understand how bronchitis would be duty disability and no he wasn't in some fire etc. He was good friends with a former Commander of Personel and brags thats how he got it. Talk about waste. Put him behind the desk and one of the kids on the desk on the street.
They are going to retire the 500-1000 guys and then Daley will put on a big production that he is hiring 500-1000 officers, when in fact they are just replacements.
SMOKE AND MIRORS....THE CHICAGO WAY
......these rumors are causing a great deal of stress on people within the department. .... It is sad. Very sad.
4/11/2010 03:04:00 AM
Valiant effort, officer! I do commend the fact that you are one of the few still doing “Pro-active” police work! HOWEVER, a word of caution: You gotta be fucking NUTS to still be doing “Pro-active” police work! Its gonna get stuck in your ass unless you have a phone-call to save you! Its going to get you CR’s, which puts you smack in the middle of a witch-hunt by IRPA (who have never been and hate the POLICE) or IAD (Where the majority have never been and don’t want to be the POLICE). You are at an exponentially greater risk of getting stressed out over bullshit, suspended for bullshit, sued for bullshit or fired for bullshit.
Want to go to a unit? Too many CR’s kid, come back in a few years after this shit goes away. Want that merit promotion? Too many CR’s kid, come back in a few years after this shit goes away. I know the CR’s are bullshit, you know the CR’s are bullshit… but it’s an excuse to fuck with you! And after you get enough of those CR’s (Even if they are bullshit), you become a liability for the bosses.
As soon as you figure out the sad, but true fact that NO ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOU with the exception of your partner (hopefully), your Sgt (If they aren’t trying to be a LT) and at the absolute most, your LT (If they aren’t trying to be a Cdr). Keep kicking ass and taking names! All of that great police work, numbers, heads, guns… that gets someone else promoted, NOT YOU! “OOOOOHHHH LOOK A RIBBON”! That ribbon you got for the great homicide, armed robbery, burglary pattern… the one you did ACTUAL POLICE WORK for gets sullied some when some political hack gets the same ribbon for a “Fly Dumping” arrest. The more you give to this department, the department will try to take even more!
Don’t believe me? If they did give a fuck about you, me or anyone else here, the Department wouldn’t lie to you about 13,500 Sworn on the street; the Dept would have more than 9,500 Sworn out there. The Dept wouldn’t lie to you and say GPS and Cameras are “For YOUR protection”. The Dept would have its contract settled on time. The Dept would care more about how many arrests you’ve made than how much revenue you generated or how much court time/ over time they have to pay you. Your boss would be competent vs. a political hack. You are nothing more than a number, a warm ass in a seat…. And they aren’t “Rumors”… think of them more as individual truths from Officers who have done the same thing you are doing, and have gotten burned.
Your ONLY reward for doing “Pro-Active Police Work” is:
#1) Your personal satisfaction.
#2) Acknowledgement from others around you that you consider your peers (A.K.A. The Real Police).
And every once and a while, when you do get a true “Bad Guy”, I mean one that will go out and do harm to some “Legit”, or honest Citizen, and you get to put them in a well deserved cage for a long time… that note from the CCSAO that lets you know he just got 15, 20, 20 years in Prison… that to gives you some slight satisfaction.
Outside of that, expect to get shit on and fucked with. Enjoy your rewarding career with the Chicago Police Department, and remember; “Earned, not given” (well, ok, for $310K a year for 3 years). Call your mother, she still loves and cares about you. Stay safe and try to have fun!
Det's in uniform, will never happen..... B S!!!!
4/11/2010 03:36:00 PM
Ask anyone that was here during the first gulf war. Everyone INCLUDING Det's were in uniform!
good bye cpd said...
Just got hired by Vegas PD "Metro". I will miss the experiences and good friends at CPD. I have 12 years but I refuse to give up everything to just live here. Vegas is in a slump but my standard of living will get better for me and my family. And i will live in a new house. Fuck you mayor and weis. you killed a proud police department
4/11/2010 07:00:00 PM
Good Luck in vegas tried going lateral there back in 2001, but didn't work out. Two guys that went through with the lateral came back begging gor their jobs with CPD because at the time vegas required that you quit CPD.
Nice homes in summerlin area, hopes it works for ya.
Nobody was hired to be a housecat. I have no sympathy for people unwilling to work the street.
4/11/2010 10:09:00 AM
Fuck you
This job blows and I was able to get of a car for a while so I do not feel bad one bit for working inside. Anyone would.
Anonymous good bye cpd said...
Just got hired by Vegas PD "Metro". I will miss the experiences and good friends at CPD. I have 12 years but I refuse to give up everything to just live here. Vegas is in a slump but my standard of living will get better for me and my family. And i will live in a new house. Fuck you mayor and weis. you killed a proud police department
4/11/2010 07:00:00 PM
Good For you. Good Luck, stay safe, and always remember family comes first.
Ask the slick sergeants in 017. Dr. Summeroff comes highly recommended. First you fake or exaggerate an injury, then you go to therapy for 6 months,
I had 4 surgeries on both hands in 6 months last year, 2 on each hand and was told I was faking/milking it. NON IOD. The 5th surgery is near. I was told that I was going to be made a personal concern because of same. I said where do I sign. It never happened. I didnt let them scare me either. If you have a medical problem take care of it. You are
1st not this job. Its not our problem they dont have the personel! If you have a legit medical problem, let alone need surgery they cannot say a thing!! Take care of you!!!
Nobody was hired to be a housecat. I have no sympathy for people unwilling to work the street.
4/11/2010 10:09:00 AM
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You are wrong, my friend. Some WERE hired only to be housecats, with their spots guaranteed by family, or politicians. Nepotism is alive and flourishing, particularly up in the area, but in many other places on the dept.
Problem is, with SO many bosses guaranteeing SO many spots, the do-nothing spots have multiplied exponentially. We now have 60% of the dept doing all the work, while the other 40% plan parties, socialize, take online classes on company time, make the lunch runs, shop, make their childcare issues everyone else's issue by coming in late and leaving early, conduct their law practices, act as informal drivers for their clout, have their 'hours changed' so their supervisors can't supervise them, work partial shifts with the blessing (read: demand) of the boss, go home and walk the dog/read the mail/watch a soap/claim they're on call so it's okay to be at home for several hours, get their nails airbrushed, compose their personal blogs, get their cars repaired, - whew! Then tell everyone how rough they have it, being a full-time law enforcement officer.
BTW, I, too, have no sympathy for those unwilling to, or mentally incapable of, working the street. They are thieves, plain and simple.
Check out personal cars going home on days while at work.
4/11/2010 05:17:00 PM
So true, oh so true, where does the time go?
I even toasted a drink or two with our current POTUS's Chief of Staff at Mikes. Believe that? Very true...
northside, you forgot summer wind by old blue eyes......
15 APRIL is supposedly the move in date for the Selvies at 11130 S. Spaulding. Make your presence known. It pisses me off that I have to fight jack offs like this family of murderers and cop killers in the ghetto and now have to deal with their drama, drug dealing and violence on the street that I live on. Makes me sick!!! Worse yet I have to now shield my wife and kids completely from the neighborhood they are suppose to feel safe in. I will be making my presence known and will not tolerate any bullshit from these assholes. I hope you do the same.
How old is too old to start a law enforcement career somewhere else?
A whole different state perhaps. I'm pretty young (early 30's) and have close to 10 years on here.
4/11/2010 01:03:00 AM
Depends on the department. San Antonio, TX tests and hires regularly and you must not have reached 45 YOA at date of appointment to the police academy.
http://www.chicagofop.org/Contract/Proposals/2007/scoresheet.pdf
go to page 4, regarding
Article 18 - Disability Income
18.3
Trying to make light duty mirror that of disability.
Going to be interesting if the arbitrator honors it - guess we have to wait about 2 weeks to know for sure!!!
Bosses are talking openly to the troops to keep up morale.
J-Fled will not last much longer.
Shortshanks either will not run again or will lose.
I've heard that from more than one source. God I hope they are right.
I have one for you and this isn't a rumor it's fact. There is a guy I know who received DUTY DISABILITY for bronchitis. He has been getting 75 or 80% of his pay and a monthly stipend for his kids until they turned 18 plus some tax breaks for many years .He gets that untill he turns 63 then goes to the normal pension of a 29 yr guy.IMO he is capable of doing something on the dep't since he is able to work a different job and I don't understand how bronchitis would be duty disability and no he wasn't in some fire etc. He was good friends with a former Commander of Personel and brags thats how he got it. Talk about waste. Put him behind the desk and one of the kids on the desk on the street.
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Guess where disability pay comes from ?????
OUR PENSION FUND... that's where.
So the city has every incentive to get the dead weight off the city payroll and onto the pension fund do they not?
(If I am mistaken as to the $ coming from the pension fund please correct me - and I really do hope I am wrong)
They better do it soon or I may be one of those who just don't care anymore and want to work a desk.
Guess what.........you already are working a desk, so I guess your wish came true.
Hi John.
Anonymous said...
wow...your dumb... good lord, were all screwed... spoken too .. also, its professional ... dont they teach you people..
4/11/2010 05:31:00 PM
I have one for you and this isn't a rumor it's fact. There is a guy I know who received DUTY DISABILITY for bronchitis. He has been getting 75 or 80% of his pay and a monthly stipend for his kids until they turned 18 plus some tax breaks for many years .He gets that untill he turns 63 then goes to the normal pension of a 29 yr guy.IMO he is capable of doing something on the dep't since he is able to work a different job and I don't understand how bronchitis would be duty disability and no he wasn't in some fire etc. He was good friends with a former Commander of Personel and brags thats how he got it. Talk about waste. Put him behind the desk and one of the kids on the desk on the street.
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You are a troll, if you don't know the facts SHUT-UP. 75% or 80% is bullcrap! Nobody gets 75 or 80 %. When you get awarded disability it's 75% of your current salary without raises until your 8th year in Duty Disability and then your only brought up to 60% of what your current salary. And it's not a stipen you fool, it's $100 a month for each kid, you can't buy a pair of tennis shoes for a kid with $100. Social security give about $700-$900 a month for kids. Maybe you should get your so called facts straight.
U sir or mam, R A mush.
Have U ever been to a crime scene??
there is a whole psychology thing to dicks in ties, but that is lost on you.
Gimme a F&^%#n break,psychology really works on the mutts in this city, maybe you watch a little to much C.S.I. and "The Profiler." Mush
Anonymous said...
To the idiot that thinks anybody can do timekeeping be my guest. You wouldn't have a clue and either do most of the civilian timekeepers. Can't wait until your time gets screwed up I'll laugh in your face
4/11/2010 08:04:00 PM
As a civilian time keeper, there are good and bad sworn time keepers. I have seen sworn time keepers make a complete mess of the books. It is a important job but can we afford the luxury of a full duty officer inside to keep time? Some units have more than one officer keeping time. That is a luxury we can no longer afford. Sorry to say but you need to consider working a beat car. Use a light duty officer inside or a civilian.
4/11/2010 11:34:00 PM
Um They move in 15apr10 then watch the animals play in our neighborhood! 51% of country pay no taxes the obama regime wants to ruin along with daley the 49% who do pay the bills!
Anonymous said...
Will Daley and Burke's 30 bodyguard, lickspittles have to be in uniform?
4/11/2010 12:08:00 AM
More than 30,and the tresurer also has a huge D-3 sgts pay and generous overtime detail also! Burkes is the best 2 on 3 OFF rotation,the tresurer 2 on 2 off,daley 1 on 1 off! And 2 commanders including "fat sammy"!
As far as the first issue comment, yes if they change the uniform, then it's a first issue. However, if they simply change the order and put us all BACK into only one approved uniform then there is no first issue as we are already supposed to have it. I for one wouldn't mind seeing this as we now have a "wear whatever the hell you want" department. I remember the days when there were NO optional uniforms. That was a professional looking department, not the rag tag assortment of hair gels that arrive on scene now.
It can't get any worse, even if it does, yawn.
Anonymous said...
As far as the first issue comment, yes if they change the uniform, then it's a first issue. However, if they simply change the order and put us all BACK into only one approved uniform then there is no first issue as we are already supposed to have it. I for one wouldn't mind seeing this as we now have a "wear whatever the hell you want" department. I remember the days when there were NO optional uniforms. That was a professional looking department, not the rag tag assortment of hair gels that arrive on scene now.
4/12/2010 08:40:00 AM
That's not true. Just because something has been approved already doesn't mean it is a mandatory item ex: the leather coat. The only things that are mandatory as coats are the reefer and the blouse.
What's with all the bodyguards for Daley, Burke, treasurer, etc. With the low numbers in cops and the constant bitching about OT, they should be brought back to their units, districts, etc. Let the big wigs hire armed security guards. C'mon, they can hire some alderman's connected firm, that's how they do business, right? Why isn't the media addressing this issue.
The media should be aware that management doesn't care about the investigative integrity of a case, it's all about the money. They'll send a dic home and put another dic on a breaking case even tho he/she doesn't have a clue about the investigation, these manuevers can be catastrophic. But the "armed bodyguards" make the big bucks and it's OK because they are valeting, delivering, shopping, ooops, I mean guarding the political honchos. The people who lose out are the victims of the crimes, you know, the taxpayers. Anyone listening?????
You are a troll, if you don't know the facts SHUT-UP. 75% or 80% is bullcrap! Nobody gets 75 or 80 %. When you get awarded disability it's 75% of your current salary without raises until your 8th year in Duty Disability and then your only brought up to 60% of what your current salary. And it's not a stipen you fool, it's $100 a month for each kid, you can't buy a pair of tennis shoes for a kid with $100. Social security give about $700-$900 a month for kids. Maybe you should get your so called facts straight.
4/12/2010 06:58:00 AM
YOU NEED TO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. ITS 7 YEARS NOT EIGHT..
... Anonymous said...
U sir or mam, R A mush.
Have U ever been to a crime scene??
there is a whole psychology thing to dicks in ties, but that is lost on you.
Gimme a F&^%#n break,psychology really works on the mutts in this city, maybe you watch a little to much C.S.I. and "The Profiler." Mush
4/12/2010 07:05:00 AM...
And you have been watching a little too much "Adam 12".
Simple shit like that does work on simple minds. We had a boss who when he had to go interview beefers for C-Rs would always dress in a suit and tie. He was always able to get out of them what was needed to Unfound or Not Sustain.
To all you doom and gloomers with the new uniform bullsh*t,it's just that,bullsh*t ! the dept. has'nt had a uniform guy in r&d since T.H. left the uniform committee to become one of 42 shorts bodyguards. For those that don't know,HE WAS THE COMMITTEE!! These pukes in r&d will take 2 years just to get a pair of socks approved,let along new uni's.
When I came on the job 1980-(Female) The only officers inside were those with 20 years or longer-Myself I'm burned out! I've been in Ghetto dist working the street all these years except for maybe 10 days inside for relief. Yet I see all you young healthy guys and girls inside who have no shame, Officer Frances who was killed in the line of Duty should not have been working the street.
Geeeze, Louise!! A timekeeper so bitter that he/she might have to go back to doing police work, something they were hired for, that they will " laugh in your face" if and when the timecards get screwed up!! Wow! Please, give your fellow officers a break. Whye take out your unhappiness about losing straight days and weekends off by laughing at your fellow officers?
"Bosses are talking openly to the troops to keep up morale.
J-Fled will not last much longer"
MORE LIES& BULLSHIT, WE'LL BELEIVE IT WHEN IT HAPPENS.
In regards to the Selvie's... Which institution are they receiving financing from. What LEGAL form of work is paying for the residence. You can't have eight people paying the mortgage on a residence. etc. etc. Are they receiving Government funding. If a convicted felon is receiving that funding, they can't receive it.
Concerning 11130 Spaulding - This is a little too close too home I agree. Everyone who has a take home squad (or even if you are CFD a buggy) drive down their block on the way home. You don't have to stop...just drive down...with all of the covert/unmarked in the neighborhood that should be about 30 a day minimum...We need to pull together on this one....call on everything...Start getting 2211 back over here and out of Roseland...
4/11/2010 12:43:00 PM
to al of you talking shit about garciaridge not too long ago, welcome to cabrini south, how's that for karma................
15apr I will make it a point to take several trips down Spaulding in the days and weeks that follow. I live about 1/2 a mile from there, and I don't mind helping to keep a presence that makes the ghetto scum feel unwelcome.
Always carry, be ready.
Big deal exempt meeting suddenly called by J Fed? What's going on?
If someone is truly sick or injured, there isn't one of us who would deny them the benefits of our medical system. It's the P.O.S. that shamelessly milk every opportunity for maximum sel-benefit that piss me off. They could give a rat's ass that other people can't have time-due or work dangerously short while they languish on the "ambulatory" medical roll. One "blond" sergeant in 019 actually lost her passport at the airport while enroute to Mexico. She was ambulatory all right.
North Side is right it was a great time to be the police. Enjoyed working and Mike's, the Slammer, whatever after work. You NEVER taught your wife or girlfriend how to shoot a gun. Much too dangerous. You were close to the guys you worked with, even most bosses. I feel sorry for you younger guys, because that is what being "the police" really was.
From the outside looking in...
I guess I do not see a whole lot wrong with taking people who can't ever return to duty due to physical maladies and putting them on disability. That's what disability is for.
Maybe I am missing something that is not real obvious, but any other profession if you can't do the work they move you out and move in someone that can do the work.
To the civilian timekeeper that thinks doing time is a luxury you need to wake up. I would put most sworn against civilians anytime. You need to understand the job it can't be taught in two hrs. Yes I work inside but did 20 plus on the street already. There are good civilians but what I've seen are pretty bad. Officers can't afford to have their time and money screwed up and I've seen that done to many times Thank You
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
To the idiot that thinks anybody can do timekeeping be my guest. You wouldn't have a clue and either do most of the civilian timekeepers. Can't wait until your time gets screwed up I'll laugh in your face
4/11/2010 08:04:00 PM
I cannot wait until you are working a beat car and have to make arrests. I'll laugh in your face. Maybe it has been so long you forgot how to do police work. Quit crying and do your job sweetheart.
"Gee, I busted my ass (literally), and, as a reward, I get to work the desk for a month or two? The crappiest job with the worst hours?"
It only makes sense with the manpower crisis we're in.
We are all lucky to have a secure job in these times. You are getting paid while you are injured, and as long as you can hobble (as you phrased it), you can answer phones and make reports while nursing your sore bum instead of watching ESPN at home. Unappealing, but sensible.
By doing that, full-duty officers can fill the beat cars.
I do believe in rewarding working officers, though, and I don't blame you for not wanting to work inside.
Please be safe, get well soon, and know that most of us appreciate your hard work.
2:23am,,,,,You are proud of drinking at Mike's with Rahm Emmanuel?? He's a bigger piece of shit than his boss.
you young kids won't admit it but, the medical roll is abused by alot of people, folks stay on it forever for Bullshit, just because they don't want to work in the cold or heat, Too Too many people are on light duty because their doctors write Bullshit notes. Let's straighten out before it gets taken away, and knocked down to 12 days per year, and yes I know we have heard this so many times beofre, but times haved changed, it's going to happen and then when you need it , no more will it be there. It's ok to use if you are really hurt but not when you men have drank into a stupper and the girls just cant' seem to make it thru the day with a little headache or on those special days. If your kids are sick, get a sitter to take care of them don't hit the medical and then when you get caught, you can tell everyone how they FUCKED you,but you won't tell anyone how long or how many times you have been on the medical. Wake up you DOGASSES>
Anonymous said...
U sir or mam, R A mush.
Have U ever been to a crime scene??
there is a whole psychology thing to dicks in ties, but that is lost on you.
Gimme a F&^%#n break,psychology really works on the mutts in this city, maybe you watch a little to much C.S.I. and "The Profiler." Mush
4/12/2010 07:05:00 AM
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Your the MUSH! And yeah it does work. It's amazing how often people wont talk to a uniformed Officer but will a talk to a plain clotheds officer.
UNIFORM CHANGES
According to the new lieutenants and captains contract that they agreed on:
* The uniform allowance STAYS THE SAME.
* The department will issue "vouchers" for necessary uniform items.
The FOP and sergeants union have also agreed to this item in contract negotiations.
As we all know, the department MUST give us the "first issue" on any mandatory uniform or equipment items.
All it will mean now is that the department will give every member a voucher for a new item that it wishes to change.
HOWEVER, I don't see the department coming up with any money for such a change unless it is from a federal grant . .
AKA: OBAMA communist program cash.
Big deal exempt meeting suddenly called by J Fed? What's going on?
He's freaking out...that whats going on. He is beside himself with grief over his failed career. I heard his cats don't even use their litter boxes anymore Nobody respects him. FREE COZZI.
To the idiot that thinks anybody can do timekeeping be my guest. You wouldn't have a clue and either do most of the civilian timekeepers. Can't wait until your time gets screwed up I'll laugh in your face
4/11/2010 08:04:00 PM
I cannot wait until you are working a beat car and have to make arrests. I'll laugh in your face. Maybe it has been so long you forgot how to do police work. Quit crying and do your job sweetheart.
4/12/2010 04:59:00 PM
I've probably made more arrest in my 25 yr career than you have in yours and I'm not your sweetheart. You probably can't get one of those either.
You are a troll, if you don't know the facts SHUT-UP. 75% or 80% is bullcrap! Nobody gets 75 or 80 %. When you get awarded disability it's 75% of your current salary without raises until your 8th year in Duty Disability and then your only brought up to 60% of what your current salary. And it's not a stipen you fool, it's $100 a month for each kid, you can't buy a pair of tennis shoes for a kid with $100. Social security give about $700-$900 a month for kids. Maybe you should get your so called facts straight.
4/12/2010 06:58:00 AM
YOU NEED TO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. ITS 7 YEARS NOT EIGHT..
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My facts are stright, you do not get a raise until AFTER 7 FULL years on Disability. So you do not get a raise until you start your
8th year on disability.
Anonymous said...
If you didn't see this coming you are a complete moron. Why can't detectives be in uniform? They dont need to be in C.D. They are there after the fact and not in a covert capacity!
4/11/2010 07:54:00 AM
Listen here 2 year wonder-boy, quit calling the Area with all of your bullshit notifications about some schmuck that got robbed of his 2 dollars on the street. Read the order and what it actually says about REQUIRED notifications or tell your Sgt. to read it so he or she will stop telling you to notify the area about every little bullshit crime that DOES NOT require a notifiation! "Well my Sgt. said to call the dicks and get a name for my report" Boo Hoo.
Anonymous said...
In regards to the Selvie's... Which institution are they receiving financing from. What LEGAL form of work is paying for the residence. You can't have eight people paying the mortgage on a residence. etc. etc. Are they receiving Government funding. If a convicted felon is receiving that funding, they can't receive it.
4/12/2010 12:40:00 PM
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07:59:00 PM
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
U sir or mam, R A mush.
Have U ever been to a crime scene??
there is a whole psychology thing to dicks in ties, but that is lost on you.
Gimme a F&^%#n break,psychology really works on the mutts in this city, maybe you watch a little to much C.S.I. and "The Profiler." Mush
4/12/2010 07:05:00 AM
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Your the MUSH! And yeah it does work. It's amazing how often people wont talk to a uniformed Officer but will a talk to a plain clotheds officer.
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ive worked in uniform and plain clothes on and off for 15 years and there is no doubt the citizens treat you differently when you are civilian dress. cofirmed. thats how they think. if you are in uniform they think your just pee-on in the department. just think of what/how u thought before u were the police or what your friends and family think..perception is everything
That's not true. Just because something has been approved already doesn't mean it is a mandatory item ex: the leather coat. The only things that are mandatory as coats are the reefer and the blouse.
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And your point is? My point was they could do away with all the alternate uniforms and put us back in the regular shirt with 80-20 pants and that's it. no first issue for those items. That was my point, now go back to reading school little one
Anonymous said...
North Side is right it was a great time to be the police. Enjoyed working and Mike's, the Slammer, whatever after work. You NEVER taught your wife or girlfriend how to shoot a gun. Much too dangerous. You were close to the guys you worked with, even most bosses. I feel sorry for you younger guys, because that is what being "the police" really was.
4/12/2010 03:16:00 PM
That is the police department I hired on to. Unfortunately it morphed into the police department we have today and this one isn't worth a shit.
No camaraderie, no closeness with your co-workers, most PO's out for themselves, lot's of long faces all over, bosses are hated, disliked, or at best, simply mistrusted.
The best to be said now about the job is the paychecks are steady, that is it.
Simple shit like that does work on simple minds. We had a boss who when he had to go interview beefers for C-Rs would always dress in a suit and tie. He was always able to get out of them what was needed to Unfound or Not Sustain.
Holy Shit, he was a bigger Mush than you. Yeah, when our Capt. interviews someone for a TRR he changes into his Easter best to interview the shithead. NOT!!! Softball
2:23am,,,,,You are proud of drinking at Mike's with Rahm Emmanuel?? He's a bigger piece of shit than his boss.
Rahm Emmanuel drank at Mikes? Did he ever buy? I would not know what he looked like, but then again at Mike's you Never mind.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
If you didn't see this coming you are a complete moron. Why can't detectives be in uniform? They dont need to be in C.D. They are there after the fact and not in a covert capacity!
4/11/2010 07:54:00 AM
Listen here 2 year wonder-boy, quit calling the Area with all of your bullshit notifications about some schmuck that got robbed of his 2 dollars on the street. Read the order and what it actually says about REQUIRED notifications or tell your Sgt. to read it so he or she will stop telling you to notify the area about every little bullshit crime that DOES NOT require a notifiation! "Well my Sgt. said to call the dicks and get a name for my report" Boo Hoo.
4/12/2010 11:01:00 PM
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Why? Are you afraid to give your name?
Anonymous said...
To the civilian timekeeper that thinks doing time is a luxury you need to wake up. I would put most sworn against civilians anytime. You need to understand the job it can't be taught in two hrs. Yes I work inside but did 20 plus on the street already. There are good civilians but what I've seen are pretty bad. Officers can't afford to have their time and money screwed up and I've seen that done to many times Thank You
4/12/2010 04:29:00 PM
I have worked at units where the sworn time keeper fucked up the books so bad that inspectors had to audit the books for days. There are good and bad civilians every where. Having a full duty PO is a luxury that we cannot have anyomore my friend. The department should train light or limited duty PO's to work as time keepers. 20 years is not the end of the world.
why does cpd need dicks to answer phones and take notifications
hire a civilian and put the house cat dicks back on the street
in uniform
I never heard so many cry babies. They didn't say you had to work for free did they. Who cares. I do 8 hours or 8 and half or whatever. Paid me. Oh and about putting all these inside people including sgt's. out on the street. In what? There are no cars anyway. You think the dept. going to have 10-4 sgt unit.
"How old is too old to start a law enforcement career somewhere else?
DO IT. But be advised, they all look at CPD with a jaded eye. I tried it some 20 years ago. I had a nice resume back then, and in shape......You think our politics are bad?.....try a small town... (Eye-Opening)
Good Luck
My facts are stright, you do not get a raise until AFTER 7 FULL years on Disability. So you do not get a raise until you start your
8th year on disability.
4/12/2010 10:50:00 PM
Wrong!
My facts are stright, you do not get a raise until AFTER 7 FULL years on Disability. So you do not get a raise until you start your
8th year on disability.
4/12/2010 10:50:00 PM
Wrong!___________________________________
LOL OK, No Problem I guess HB1495 must have a typo and you must be right. You should call the PB and the FOP and let them know so they can straighten it out.
HB1495-Beginning on January 1, 2000, no duty disability benefit that has been payable under this Section for at least 7 years shall be less than 60% of the current salary attached from time to time to the rank held by the policeman at the time of removal from the police department payroll,
ive worked in uniform and plain clothes on and off for 15 years and there is no doubt the citizens treat you differently when you are civilian dress. cofirmed. thats how they think. if you are in uniform they think your just pee-on in the department. just think of what/how u thought before u were the police or what your friends and family think..perception is everything
4/13/2010 02:03:00 AM
I'll agree that a shirt and tie defintely provides some degree of importance, which is why most salesmen still wear them today.
If a dick has to go and tell someone that a family member is dead or tell a witness that they must tell what they know about a crime, a shirt and tie can only help.
But, I disagree that jeans and a t-shirt give a copper the "street cred" he needs to do his job. These mopes are reacting more to their experiences that cops in plain clothes tend to be more agressive than uniformed cops. But, in reality these thugs react more to the cop than what that cop is wearing.
The jeans and t-shirts are doing more harm than good. So many cops on this department wear jeans and t-shirts that it makes the department look unprofessional to the average citizen. Then, when these citizens hear ghetto lies that the police are acting unprofessional, they believe what they are hearing because it agrees with what they are seeing.
Simple shit like that does work on simple minds. We had a boss who when he had to go interview beefers for C-Rs would always dress in a suit and tie. He was always able to get out of them what was needed to Unfound or Not Sustain.
Holy Shit, he was a bigger Mush than you. Yeah, when our Capt. interviews someone for a TRR he changes into his Easter best to interview the shithead. NOT!!! Softball
Perhaps it is a little extreme in the above circumstance however I applaud the man for thinking "outside the box" and using his brains to elicit the statement(s) which would exonerate a police officer. Unorthodox, perhaps, but clever.
BTW, it is true about citizens' response to the uniform. Having worked in uniform and in civilian dress, I can tell you that people cannot see past the uniform and you cannot gain their confidence. In my opinion, it is absolutely necessary to properly interview someone in order to get results. The use of psychological tactics in order to get a suspect to open up and talk cannot be over-rated, even something so simple as dressing differently.
why does cpd need dicks to answer phones and take notifications
hire a civilian and put the house cat dicks back on the street
in uniform
I am a detective and would LOVE to work the street again (but will NOT give up the d2A pay, sorry!) Tell you what, I'll trade you. You handle my mountain of paperwork and I get to go home every day without taking home the stress and aggravation from all of my ongoing cases which never seem to end, and get rid of a boatload of heart-attack inducing stress. I wish you could work here and see the kind of bullshit we deal with on a regular basis....
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