Fantastic Use of Manpower
Remember that clearance rate? It's about to get even better!
- this is off topic but there is an e-mail originating from AS Jackson's office stating that due to the fact that the "districts resources are stretched" that Detectives are to be assigned to monitor dismissals at certain CPS High Schools. Of course this is only detectives who aren't working on "in custody" or "priority jobs". I don't know but last time I looked I think most felony crimes would be "priority". And of course the resources in the D-unit aren't "stretched". OMG
No detectives promoted in over 3 years now. A 33%-and-falling clearance rate for homicides. More people than ever appearing in emergency rooms with bullet holes in them. Don't even ask about property crimes being cleared. And the D-unit is going to "monitor" dismissals?
We're going to go out on a limb here and say the Department (and the city) don't want crimes solved anymore. They just want reports and "Call your insurance company."
We're going to go out on a limb here and say the Department (and the city) don't want crimes solved anymore. They just want reports and "Call your insurance company."
Labels: crime, department issues
posted by SCC at 6:01 AM
100 Comments:
"I'll give you a report for your insurance company. And, if you catch the guy that did this to you, call ME!"
This is how low the Department has sunk.
Thanks Yer Honor, and Sillyman. (Not a derivation of Sulliman, who at least had balls.)
How about Mounted Willber WTF
Well after seeing the picture of Ernie Brown with the piece of shit gangbanger , he has now been named. Ernie Brown from this point forward will be known as E-BANG!!
Fantastic is right, meanwhile in my district at least 7 police officers, one Sgt. and a Lt. handle the often backbreaking work of the community policing office. Why just last week a clout heavy officer almost strained his back installing a car seat in an SUV for an upper middle class housewife.
And there are 4 female police officers making sure the desks in the commander's office are wiped clean of germs every day. That's FOUR police officers, 4 X $82,000 a year plus the 7 in CAPS that's 7 X $82,000 or $902,000.000 a year in salary alone. To hold down a desk spot that could be done easily with HALF the sworn personnel.
This goes on as the beat cars go short of bodies and rapid response cars go unmanned. Then there are an unknown number of police officers assigned to equally strenuous and dangerous duties in the Area Deputy Chief's office.
The Area Deputy Chief got the job done in years gone by with ONE PO as secretary. That's 1 (one) and one only. One person handled the paperwork for the Area Deputy Chief.
How was this done?
Easily. That's how.
One organized and motivated individual got it done for decades.
Now it looks like the taping of an Oprah episode in the offices of the Deputy Chief, District Commander and Community Policing.
6 or those office pukes could be on the street tomorrow in each of the 25 Police Districts and not one report would be late, not a beat would be skipped and the offices would continue to run.
That's 6 officers times 25 districts equals, why that's 125 police officers there alone! At least $10.25 million in salary alone! 3 two man beat cars per district.
But that would mean people would have to do things the old fashioned way, organize the work and work hard and cut out the long lunches and shopping trips and personal errands. What a concept, 8 for 8!
And the dad in many households would have to read the friggin manual and install their own car seat instead of having one highly paid and trained police officer do it.
Jackson is going to be the next Supt....very soon.
They can get themselves orange belts and little "STOP" signs and do their monitoring from their crossings.
Ask any detective and they'll tell you that they have been told, the bosses don't care about property crimes anymore. The only thing they care about are Agg. Batt w/ handgun & homicide.
This City needs a good house cleaning beginning at Shitty Hall & ending at 35th & Michigan. Time to purge all the idiots & patronage hacks.
I'm dusting off an old "chuckie" doll & getting a box of hatpins. It may not work but it'll make me feel better.
It now seams that there is somebody paying attention downtown, or they read this blog and have canceled this "detail".
What a joke. So, on the off-chance that you might catch a dismissal detail, I guess all detectives should wear jeans and hoodies to work on school days? One expensively dressed area boss is going to implode in his designer suit over this one.
Forty days to retirement. KMA
It might work, the detectives who work financial crimes are off weekends and never have any in custody jobs. They could work the schools in uniform from 1400 to 1700 hrs. They are the clout merit people anyway. Once at a school no pro active police work would be done, just like in the area, It would stop them from leaving early and force them to work a full tour.
I hope JJ doesnt forget the dicks hiding in the Youth Division. Every one is a specialist except those with out clout, who have to handle the domestic upgrades and the districts. The specialists ie Missing Person guys, crime car, community liaison, school liaison people are readily available.
And lets not forget those Burglary do nothings. The d-unit was once one of the most productive units in the department. It was productive because the department was able to dump 20 percent of the do nothings yearly. Detectives had to produce.Detectives had to be held accountable. Now it is the dumping ground for the bosses do nothing clout baby girlfriends, or the merit sgts.
Get over yourselves. Every time I go up there with a prisoner there 8 to 10 Detectives sitting around laughing and joking and doing a lot of nothing. You can go to a fucked up school for 20 or 30 minutes during dismissal. As I was told this is only for the first week of school.
Quit crying. If you don't like your job, come back to patrol.
No Sympathy here!
Sup JFled on Cltv Gerrard McClendon live You can watch it on CLTV.COM
Where is the parent patrol?
honestly they could start by emptying out all of Area 3 (except Det EH...the only working guy up there!) The only thing these clowns are good at is sitting on the picnic benches and smoking cigars! Im talking round the clock, atleast 4 or 5 of them at a pop, wasting the day away enjoying only the finest of cohibas! Come on, guys...youre not really helping your cause here. At least try to hide it for chrissakes!
I have yet to hear from the F.O.P. about moving the forthcoming demonstration against Daley/Weis from 3510 to City Hall. No change in the "Current Updates" announcement on the Lodge 7 Web site.
Again, I defy anyone to give a reason why the 35th St. venue would have equal or greater impact than City Hall.
Lt's list today. Congrads to the chosen Sgt's who never stepped foot in a District.
Whaaaaa, Whaaaaa!!!!
Quit crying, you baby!!!
Didn't we used to have a "School Patrol Unit"?
How about another time and a half overtime gig at schools. Jackson knows that a few killings a CPS grounds will show up the manpower shortage like nothing else can.
They will happen at dismissal times and be top story on the 6 o'clock news.
Maybe Shortshanks is going to China to see if he can get police a coolie wages.
The facts be known, the media should inform the public about clearance rates more than sheer volume of Part I crimes. The public would be shocked into political action.
The mere thought that generally speaking, one can probably get away with bloody murder in Chicago is horrifying.
Anything new on the fatal shooting of Officer Michael Bailey?
Cut your two hour lunch short and do some work.
Eat me!
Here's a great idea...why not create a new unit (an emergency response team, if you will) that consists totally of EXEMPTS...have this group respond DAILY to any one of a number of 'problem' high schools in areas 2 or 4...and quell these disturbances. give them one of those big CPD jump out vans, outfit them in the latest ninja turtle riot gear, throw in a squadrol too...oh, and tasers, for sure....and deploy them. Every day. A different lineup for the 'exempt response team' every day. I can even suggest a few who should be in the lineup for the first team....
1) Brian Murphy
2) Alavarado
3) Masters (X3)
4) Roman
5) O'Keefe (he can be rushed through that south burbs "credentials" school, Masters can walk him through it)
6)Tobias (we haven't forgotten you sir, and the fact that you do little or nothing in your current position)
7) Carothers (you want to clean shit up? Start here!)
8) Gross (this WON'T be a movie detail, son)
9) Aunt Bea (she grew up with 6 brothers, so she's qualified to handle this)
10) Climas (he'll probably like to take a break from his IAD duties, with the shitstorm coming from his CR against Andrews)
The group can start at Julian HS in Area 2, and begin working their way north and west.
cant promote D's cause they're all going to come from patrol. and we all know how short patrol is. there has to be another full year of hiring recruits before they have enough manpower to promote D's.
why is it the detectives are always the first to complain anytime their asked to help out.
We can't even get them to do their job, let alone a "little extra".
Remember that clearance rate? It's about to get even better!
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Maybe if they worked in the 1st place.
Go to area 4 any afternoon and see five or six guys sitting around for hours doing nothing. Then they go for their three hour lunch before they go home early.
Drive around a school for 5 minutes. Big Deal, pull your weight.
How about this..... I would love to see what is going to happen when this is implemented. The 7th district as well as the 17th district are going to be involved in a new pilot program for sector/beat integrity. (seeing none of these asshats in headquarters ever worked the streets it won't work in 7) The deal is this, each sector sergeant will pick his sector personal. The dog asses will have to be equally distributed among the sergeants so that there is no unfair advantage. Then each car in that sector will be in the same day off group as the sector sergeant. For Example....if 710 is in day off group 2 711, 712, 713, 714, and 715 will also be in that day off group. There will be relief sergeants to work the sector when the regular sergeant is off. What I want to know, is there is barely enough people to man the cars on a regular basis, people are going to have to involuntarily change there day off groups, who is going man the cars when a whole sector (11 people with the sergeant) are off? This isn't coming from the commander of the districts it is coming from the brain tards at 35th st.
Ask any detective and they'll tell you that they have been told, the bosses don't care about property crimes anymore. The only thing they care about are Agg. Batt w/ handgun & homicide.
They don't even care about the Agg Batt's and homicides. From a Detective in HGS. Plus the clearance rate for murder is in the low 20's. Hey but O.T. is down
LISTEN UP DETECTIVES........... MAKE SURE YOU GET AN EVENT NUMBER!
i'm a detective and i work in an area with several high schools. if one of them jumps off, i will sit back and watch. sorry but that is not my job. i am a follow up investigator, i dont work in the school patrol unit. jimmy jackson and his yes men at headquarters can "monitor" high schools cause the det. division could care less.
Off Topic: but the the LT's list is out. Class starts Tuesday the 8th. Nice job by most who made it, most of the merit picks are actually good people.....I said most not all.
Merit list out
Ray ray and LAPA Rule!
The Shame list of those who still haven't completed the mandatory ethics training came out again today. The list is lead by:
Jody Weis
Ray Hamilton
Brett Goldstein
Debra Kirby Ted O'Keefe
Marv Shear
Matt Tobias
Steve Peterson
James Jackson
This puts them in the same class as Gerald Callahan who also have not completed his ethics training. What are they afraid they will get struck by lightning if they try to be ethical?
Here they show what is meant by leading from the front. It makes me proud.
Who do the dicks report to when they get to the school, the Principals Office ???
Do Dic's still have uniforms?
I predict many many bags of flaming hot Cheetos will be purchased with tax payer dollars and consumed in Englewood tonight. Take that predictive analysis where's my gold star?
Meanwhile the CAPS offices are fully stocked with officers ready to take your community complaints. In my district there are 2 sgts. and 6 officers in community policing. I still don't know what they do. And the kicker... Last night I attended a beat meeting for 2 beats in my district and there were only 4 residents in attendence and 6 on duty CPD members. WHAT A JOKE!
Here it is, the Lt's Promo List...............
112 Deane, John B. 18178
That the same John Deane who has been working at Patrol Division at 35th & Michigan for years? The the same John Deane whose cousin is 44th ward Aldercreature Tom Tunney? He may not be officially merit, but I would be willing to bet his cousin had something to do with his scoring so high on the test!
Next they will put everyone in Patrol on days in a Saturday & Sunday day Off Group with All Holidays Off.
Something happens during the day, call 9-1-1, we will pencil you in for next Thursday between 9-Noon.
SOMEWHAT OFF TOPIC:
I just talked with some of my fire Fighter neighbors and they have been without a contract for three years. Shorty has been playing them like he has been playing us.
Can you now imagine the uproar we would cause if we were to GET THE FIRE FIGHTERS, THE LAYED OFF TEACHERS, THE STREETS & SAN WORKERS who have to take "Daley Days" (unpaid furlough days) to march with us AT CITY HALL on September 15th.
Remember it would never be enough to get rid of Jody, we have to get rid of Daley and the rest of his crime family. We need the other city workers with us and this would be a great way to build strength.
WHERE IS THE NEWS CHANNELS ON THIS ONE!! Bet this would go over well with the public.
Speaking of great manpower use... What the hell took place in 011 Thrus evening? 1120 got on the air giving out assigned fixed post to just about every beat car. Then 1100 told them to turn on their lights and stand outside their vehicles for about 45 mins at these posts. No jobs were given out, unless they were in progress, and at some point a female voice came over the air and said "look at the power of prayer." When it was all said and done 1100 told all the beats assigned to a post to be sure to collect the sign-in sheet before they leave. WTF was this. Is this Penny's new policing strategy, pray that nobody gets shot? This didn't take place at all in 010, did it happen in other districts? Someone please explain what this was.
Keep Working!!
The crystal ball unit should be able to predict which school they should attend before anything happens. And I hope none of the dicks will be playing hooky.
Scc, you need to hear this one. Can someone explain to me how the 023 District has a "secret paid overtime detail" that is only available to "certain" officers. On weekends, "certain" officers patrol the Boystown neighborhood working a "sidejob". They stand on the corner of Roscoe/ Halsted and conducted street stops for various petty offenses. They issue ANOV are wearing full duty rig, (gun belt , vest ,star, and a radio given by 023 with a fictitious Beat number. Supposedly, they are compensated by the "community". How can you work a "sidejob" , write ANOVs, make arrests, and use a department issued radio???? Anyone who wants to see this dog and pony show , its Thu- Sunday at night.
i have a great idea! how about a school unit?
tell me about it. the det's don't give a crap about property crimes anymore. had two different burglars, good cases mind you with good victims and proceeds recovered in two weeks and on both occasions the det's refused to even send it to asa for an approval or rejection. they just refused and decided to go with simple theft.
the smell is much better, the farther away you get from Shitcago.
Ask any detective and they'll tell you that they have been told, the bosses don't care about property crimes anymore. The only thing they care about are Agg. Batt w/ handgun & homicide.
Don't fool yourself. They don't care about those crimes either. In short, they do not want any crimes solved. The only thing they want are drinkers and pissers. It gives the illusion the police are doing something and even if they sue, they can settle for a few grand.
The gang leaders want jobs.
Ok heres a job, raise your kids, take them to school, teach them to work and play sports, write poetry sing dance and love. Then maybe we can talk, until the rot in hell.
Who cares about solving crime?
Mayor Daley and company don't give a shit!
So, why should I go out on the limb, just to get spanked in court with lawsuits the city won't back us up on!
mr daley says chicago is broke yet any officer working a beat car knows at least 10 police officers and 2 sergeants are doing no police work in the front office
or caps office
stay in patrol and you will be rewarded hahahahahahaha
OT..four men duct taped and shot execution style in a garage. In the past several months there have been at least three multiple homicides in which the victims were killed in a manner that fits the M.O. of the narco-terrorist mexican cartels. Meanwhile in TRU roll call training the troops we given the following intel: No lunches are to be taken at Bourbon St...WTF
Off Topic... Slightly?
Hmmmmm?
Does it seem that most of the fraternal membership is screaming bloody murder about the choice of venue for the march?
Why not City Hall?
The store front rev'runs get to do it.
The sanctuary city people get to do it.
Everybody with a hair acroos their ass and a political agenda get to do it.
The "we hate the Police and all they stand for " contingent get to do it.
Everyone else has the right to let their voice be heard on "the mayor's front porch" and he really doesn't seem to mind. This is America after all and people have the right to protest, correct?
Why should the guardians of the captive tax payers be shunted to the side? Aren't they people too?
Do they have every right and priviledge of citizenship?
Or are those rights signed away just because one wears a blue suit of clothes and a hat with the Silitoe Tartan?
It would be crime of the worst sort if our fraternal leadership is intentionally misdirecting the focus of this march at the behest of Crime King for favors past, present and yet to come. After all... He is the architect and author of the chaos on the street and Police being starved of manpower and resources to make this right.
J-fled is a willing accomplice to the crime but in Police work, we want to put pressure on the king-pin. One poster on another thread said in effect, "...why just cut off the tail of the snake..."
Pressure on 111 equals change at 3510.
Daley is desperate to keep up appearances.
Sometimes desperation can lead to strange alliances.
Be vigilant.
12 days is enough time for things to be set right.
A/2 Robbery Dets. had to handle a homicide at 64/King a few weeks ago. I should've mentioned this back then. But how often does that happen?
How many is that?
That's 6 officers times 25 districts equals, why that's 125 police officers there alone! At least $10.25 million in salary alone! 3 two man beat cars per district.
Just in a hurry .?
Yesterday while on routine patrol I was flagged down by a citizen about a suspicous male reciting gang slogans standing by a black SUV. The citizen gave the following description a male 5'06" 199 lbs big head late 40s , wearing a blk kango hat, white Tshirt, Big fake gold rope chain, tattoos, blue boxer shorts, and blue jeans worn below his butt.
When I arrived near a local High School observed a person matching the description. While exiting me vehicle subject looked in my direction and dropped a small notebook. The person had a black marker in his left hand and said Officer "could you write 'Solid' on my chest". It was JFled who proudly showed the magic marker tattoos on his arms that said " Lil Jfled , Block 35, and RIP Masters". I got on the radio and called a slow down saying it's a kid playing cops and robbers. JFled thank me for not blowing his cover because he was practicing the gang slogans from his notebook and wanted to go undercover at the next SECRET GANG meeting this Labor Day weekend.
Awe come one now. The voters are getting exactly what they wanted when they voted this administration into office. They will be voting the same people in in November. Get used to it. Its not changing any time soon.
9/03/2010 10:01:00 AM
how the hell is that going to work? There is barely enough people to man the watches in the first place. You have area teams that duck way before the tour is over, TRU goes in 12 deep on a weed arrest, tact teams that are over burdened by their commanders to do "Quality of Life" arrests. It's time to end these bullshit units and throw everyone back on the watch. What is the activity of these teams anyways? Especially the area ones? One bag weed arrests? Reckless conduct arrests? You don't even hear them on the radio while the rest of us are running ragged job to job. Gee where do I sign up for Sat? I want to work a 5 hour day to! I thought these units were supposed to be 90 day details? I know people that have been there for 5 + years! End them all now.
9/03/2010 10:01:00 AM
You heard it hear....it's true allegedly starting the 10th period.
To 10:01 on 9/03/10-
What you describe is exactly how it was done 25 years ago. Citywide. It worked then and it will work now. It created more of a team when the entire sector worked together and had the same RDO. As a Sgt., I would love to see this happen in my district.
'Jackson is going to be the next Supt....very soon.'
ONLY if J-Fled steps down, and even then, JJ will only be the INTERIM Supt., much like Starks was until Shortshanks sold the chair to the dimmest bulb in the box. Rest assured, should Weis decide to bail (and I'm willing to bet his skin has grown thick enough to stand another 4.5 months of intense name calling and scrutiny to his lack-of-management skills), JJ will likely put in his papers very quietly as well. He has a very limited future here also.
It doesn't help matters when my detective neighbor drives his company car home and sits there for 3 hours a night in his home. Just sayin'. Don't bitch when you guys are doin' shit like that. Come on out and push a beat car. And he does that shit evry night he "works".
Forty days to retirement. KMA
9/03/2010 07:59:00 AM
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Congratulations ! I know you'll enjoy it. I certainly do !!!!!
How about they handle the 'CROSSINGS'????? THAT WOULD FREE UP 5 BEAT SLUGS TO ANSWER THE RADIO ASSIGNMENTS???
Get over yourselves. Every time I go up there with a prisoner there 8 to 10 Detectives sitting around laughing and joking and doing a lot of nothing. You can go to a fucked up school for 20 or 30 minutes during dismissal. As I was told this is only for the first week of school.
Quit crying. If you don't like your job, come back to patrol.
KMA, been there done that...... Pass the test. Now get to your corner and push the kiddies along. What ya got kid!
To 9:23AM Commander ALVARADO has been demoted to Captain
Then each car in that sector will be in the same day off group as the sector sergeant.
They tried this same program in the early 70's,I was part of it in 012.I think it lasted all of 3 periods,then just faded away.And at that time we had plenty of manpower!
Retired,............and loving it.
Anonymous said...
How about this..... I would love to see what is going to happen when this is implemented. The 7th district as well as the 17th district are going to be involved in a new pilot program for sector/beat integrity. (seeing none of these asshats in headquarters ever worked the streets it won't work in 7) The deal is this, each sector sergeant will pick his sector personal. The dog asses will have to be equally distributed among the sergeants so that there is no unfair advantage. Then each car in that sector will be in the same day off group as the sector sergeant. For Example....if 710 is in day off group 2 711, 712, 713, 714, and 715 will also be in that day off group. There will be relief sergeants to work the sector when the regular sergeant is off. What I want to know, is there is barely enough people to man the cars on a regular basis, people are going to have to involuntarily change there day off groups, who is going man the cars when a whole sector (11 people with the sergeant) are off? This isn't coming from the commander of the districts it is coming from the brain tards at 35th st.
9/03/2010 10:01:00 AM
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This is how the sectors used to be assigned. Bring back sector cars, too, 716, 717, etc.
"They just want reports and 'Call your insurance company.'" -- SCC
...and you can leave out wanting the reports. Are you kidding? Reports make crime statistics go up. Not on my beat, you don't.
VERY common police attitude; "Is this for insurance? No? Then why are you filing a report?"
Some officers will essentially refuse to take a report at the desk; they will tell a crime victim to go to the hospital so that a "hospitalization case report" can be obtained.
It's become a screening process, administered with great contempt. Not affluent enough to have theft insurance? Not injured badly enough to spend hours in the emergency room? Screw you. No report.
People used to report crimes... because that's what you did, so the police would know what was going on, and maybe take interest enough to catch the criminal. It was part of being a good citizen.
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"I'll give you a report for your insurance company. And, if you catch the guy that did this to you, call ME!"
This is how low the Department has sunk.
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Absolutely right on the money.
Amen.
...and now people can keep that picture of Gator Bradley and Ernie Brown in mind before they call 911. "Now don' you be worryin' 'bout no foolishness. Ain' gon' have no problem when there ain' no problem, know whum sayin.'"
Good to see things running so smoothly...
"Well after seeing the picture of Ernie Brown with the piece of shit gangbanger , he has now been named. Ernie Brown from this point forward will be known as E-BANG!!"
--9/03/2010 07:00:00 AM
DONE!
Man, this board gets better every day...
Shortshanks and J-Fled and E-Bang...aren't we missing Coke-B?
Why not give the 8th Graders and Seniors JUNIOR POLICE BADGES and have them stand on the corners.
Nothing will show up the manpower shortage like a few killings on public school grounds.
The victim could be a 6'2" 19 year old high-school sophomore who is the local source for crack, weed and blow for the whole school and who actually hasn't seen the inside of a classroom all year but when he takes a few rounds from and R&G he will be somebody's sweet baby who was going to turn his life around and find a cure for cancer and it will be all the police's fault.
9/03/2010 02:02:00 PM
TRU should be told no more paper jumping on one bagger arrests. Maybe TRU officers should go back and learn how to be the police. Seeing none of them have a clue.
"Speaking of great manpower use... What the hell took place in 011 Thrus evening? 1120 got on the air giving out assigned fixed post to just about every beat car. Then 1100 told them to turn on their lights and stand outside their vehicles for about 45 mins at these posts. No jobs were given out, unless they were in progress, and at some point a female voice came over the air and said "look at the power of prayer."
--9/03/2010 11:46:00 AM
Unbelievable. You can't force a whole district to participate in a religious event on city time. Given the absolute intolerance for such displays today -- ACLU, Atheists, "separation of church and state" and all that -- I think someone's emotional overflow just put them in a position to get their silly a__ fired for it.
Not that things really aren't that bad here -- might as well "lash the helm and take to prayer," since no one in a position of power seems to have any better ideas.
Has traffic begun moving again after this heavenly intervention? Pedestrians aren't still frozen in their tracks, are they? Better send someone to check.
How about this..... I would love to see what is going to happen when this is implemented. The 7th district as well as the 17th district are going to be involved in a new pilot program for sector/beat integrity. (seeing none of these asshats in headquarters ever worked the streets it won't work in 7) The deal is this, each sector sergeant will pick his sector personal. The dog asses will have to be equally distributed among the sergeants so that there is no unfair advantage. Then each car in that sector will be in the same day off group as the sector sergeant. For Example....if 710 is in day off group 2 711, 712, 713, 714, and 715 will also be in that day off group. There will be relief sergeants to work the sector when the regular sergeant is off. What I want to know, is there is barely enough people to man the cars on a regular basis, people are going to have to involuntarily change there day off groups, who is going man the cars when a whole sector (11 people with the sergeant) are off? This isn't coming from the commander of the districts it is coming from the brain tards at 35th st.
We did the same thing in 013 in 1975. It worked great, but we had a dept that was fully staffed and there were only a handful of specialized units. This to shall fail. This administration has done everything wrong, absolutely everything wrong.
Hey, superintendent, how's that gang leader threat crap working out for you? HMMM. Not so good, I see. Guess you should have had another meeting in 008 and asked Telemundo to show.
jfled & phfleger on CNN together tonight (9/03) around 700pm. phfleger didn't have his ghetto speak on. he had his intelligent white man voice showing. Big head jfled sitting next to him nodding and flashing his little beady eyes.
What a fucking train wreck this department has become.
Just counting the days. The end is coming soon.
Speaking of 'hiding detectives', SCC...have you heard the latest?
Bomb & Arson detailed out, I believe, five detectives to Area to help with their 'overload.' This occurred earlier in the summer. a 91 day detail. Do you know where ALL of those 5 Detectives are as of today? That's right...they are all on the MEDICAL, and all have been since their first 3 weeks abandoned to Area 2....apparently none plan to come off the medical until the detail officially ends. How pathetic is THAT SHIT?
No reason at all to have any detectives assigned to the Major Case Unit, Fugitive Unit, and Financial Crimes. Put them all back into the Areas. Any detective can do the work of these special units. Exempts do your job and disband these non-needed units.
And this round goes to...............
The Hispanic Coalition!
Sorry Mack-Daddy,urban translatin', poverty pimpin', play revruns, and intergalactic elite bishops..... next time!
/03/2010 09:42:00 AM
Bob Roman said...
Remember that clearance rate? It's about to get even better!
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"Maybe if they worked in the 1st place.
Go to area 4 any afternoon and see five or six guys sitting around for hours doing nothing. Then they go for their three hour lunch before they go home early."
And that supervisor who answers the phones on afternoons in RBT is the rudest I've heard. Sounds like a salty old desk sergeant. He needs a change of venue.
Hey, let's have the criminals have another press conference. Maybe they can get J Fed. They can all link arms and sing Kumbayah together.
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It doesn't help matters when my detective neighbor drives his company car home and sits there for 3 hours a night in his home. Just sayin'. Don't bitch when you guys are doin' shit like that. Come on out and push a beat car. And he does that shit evry night he "works".
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Hey crybaby- take the fucking dick test and you too can work from home. In most areas you have 14 computers for homicide, 4 for sex crime dicks, 0 for mission teams, 14-16 for property crimes,2 for evidence coordinators- can't speak for svu. And then on 2nd-3d watches you have 20-dicks per homicide or property crimes trying to use a computer, then you have narcotics, fugitive and every other unit that for some reason feel they have to process their work in the area offices. So since we work off of pagers nothing says where we type our cases. So stop ur crying baby!!!!!
Do you get the feeling they just want the old timers to retire so they mess with people......
No reason at all to have any detectives assigned to the Major Case Unit, Fugitive Unit, and Financial Crimes. Put them all back into the Areas. Any detective can do the work of these special units. Exempts do your job and disband these non-needed units.
9/03/2010 09:40:00 PM
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Seriously, you make zero sense. Those jobs can't be done by 'any' detective, any more than jazz can be played well by 'any' musician.
If it takes a dick to DO the job, why should the units be de-centralized? Specialists develope expertise and contacts, thereby streamlining the operations. Wannabes and part-timers only screw up the operation, because they're unfamilar with the protocols and the nuances of the pertinent laws, thus losing the department time, money and court cases.
I've dealt with all three units. I've also watched incompetent detectives try to handle (or 'coordinate') real financial investigations, seen an SVU lieutenant royally screw up an extradiion and watched those without enough background and intellectual wherewithal try to manage major cases and coordinate with outside agencies, then irretrievably blow the investigations.
Those units have actual functions and two of them bring money INTO the police department, via seizures. If you think just anybody can handle those cases, you have much to learn, grasshopper. Let your brain guide you, rather than your jealousy.
Duties performed by the community policing officers. Link to document:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/36878958/Guidelines-Community-Policing-Sergeant-amp-Office-08-Jan-09
Read it and if you still want to put them down then fine. Read what they do first.
Here's the new pilot program getting ready to be rolled out on my beat: It is the IDGAF program. Figure that one out. In that program I cover myself and backup co-workers and drive around and smile.
See how easy my new IDGAF program is?
It is closely related to attaining senior KMA status a few years back and the implementation of the least competent goes to the highest position within the department program.
It might work, the detectives who work financial crimes are off weekends and never have any in custody jobs. They could work the schools in uniform from 1400 to 1700 hrs. They are the clout merit people anyway. Once at a school no pro active police work would be done, just like in the area, It would stop them from leaving early and force them to work a full tour.
I hope JJ doesnt forget the dicks hiding in the Youth Division. Every one is a specialist except those with out clout, who have to handle the domestic upgrades and the districts. The specialists ie Missing Person guys, crime car, community liaison, school liaison people are readily available.
And lets not forget those Burglary do nothings. The d-unit was once one of the most productive units in the department. It was productive because the department was able to dump 20 percent of the do nothings yearly. Detectives had to produce.Detectives had to be held accountable. Now it is the dumping ground for the bosses do nothing clout baby girlfriends, or the merit sgts.
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To Above: You sound like a real stroke. Enjoy your 1/2 hour lunch you idiot. Try and study and pass a promotional exam!!
And that supervisor who answers the phones on afternoons in RBT is the rudest I've heard. Sounds like a salty old desk sergeant. He needs a change of venue...
Well, quit calling in every burglary report for notification because your sgt said to get one. Contrary to what most think, you only need to notify the area on major burglaries and crimes. NOT every RD you write up!! Like why do you call in the burg to auto for notification? And stop telling the citizen that a dick will contact you in a day or two. It says right there on the back of the gocr that we "may be" contacting them. C'mon now...it's Report writting 101. Sounds like you need a refreasher course. Fletch
Duties performed by the community policing officers. Link to document:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/36878958/Guidelines-Community-Policing-Sergeant-amp-Office-08-Jan-09
Read it and if you still want to put them down then fine. Read what they do first.
9/04/2010 02:23:00 AM
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I read the order and I still don't know what they do!!!! What ever is is it must be working because there were 4 residents in attendance for the CAPS meeting for 2 beats.
Now, did'nt they use the fact that the detectives are paid D2A pay and because their special training was not needed to work traffic control for the Marathon. But now they can be used for school dismissals.
FOP are you paying attention, remember you lost this arguement about the Marathon, even though the city admitted they used Detectives out of senority for the Marathon. Now here it is again, FOP.
I am a dick in area 2, the LT tells us "From 1300-1730 you will be in uniform assigned to the schools operation "protect youth", not that we are busy with a caseload and being 400 short. Another reason retire when you can, the savages at the schools will just keep up their shit! Worked CTA tunnels the other day groups of the animals around State and lake in the gang banging white t-shirt and black cheapo jeans waiting to prey on unsuspecting white tourists. We loaded them on the trains going to 95th hopefully saved some innicents from these animals at least for a day!
The CTA should set up a Red Line Grid White people north animals south that would get rid of all the confusion!
"Well, quit calling in every burglary report for notification because your sgt said to get one. Contrary to what most think, you only need to notify the area on major burglaries and crimes. NOT every RD you write up!! Like why do you call in the burg to auto for notification? And stop telling the citizen that a dick will contact you in a day or two. It says right there on the back of the gocr that we "may be" contacting them. C'mon now...it's Report writting 101. Sounds like you need a refreasher course. Fletch"
You might want to refer to your G.O.s. When a report is taken for a felony case the officer is suppose to notify the appropriate unit in the D-Unit.
Well, quit calling in every burglary report for notification because your sgt said to get one. Contrary to what most think, you only need to notify the area on major burglaries and crimes. NOT every RD you write up!! Like why do you call in the burg to auto for notification? And stop telling the citizen that a dick will contact you in a day or two. It says right there on the back of the gocr that we "may be" contacting them. C'mon now...it's Report writting 101. Sounds like you need a refreasher course. Fletch
9/04/2010 10:10:00 AM
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At the MARS, DOC, etc meetings, you might be suprised how commanders are ripped by deputy's and up for case reports not having said notifications. PO's are doing it because they are told to. Same thing when we fight with ET's over calling for a scene to be processed when Stevie Wonder can tell it has been compromised. The high up bosses demand that.
I agree its not normally necessary.
You're right on the PO's telling citizens that Det's will call shortly. Not practical, not happening.
Anonymous said...
Do you get the feeling they just want the old timers to retire so they mess with people......
9/03/2010 11:31:00 PM
I wish I was an old timer. Its sucks being a young timer in this era of CPD.
Can I get an event number for a predictive analysis mission squad?
It doesn't help matters when my detective neighbor drives his company car home and sits there for 3 hours a night in his home. Just sayin'. Don't bitch when you guys are doin' shit like that. Come on out and push a beat car. And he does that shit evry night he "works".
As a dick you can type your cases anywhere there's computer. Computers at the Area are often short.
There's a lot of paperwork in many Dick's cases.
Take the test, score well, and you can also work anywhere your laptop is.
I am a detective and of course I can't speak for everyone, but I always tell anyone when I get the chance that those in patrol due most of the work and get treated the worst. that being said i had posted about the "detail" not crying about having to do the work, but to get the message out that even some bosses down town are admitting that the manpower on the streets is being stretched. as to the people commenting about dicks sitting in the office, believe it or not when we do get the chance to work on a case it sometime takes several hours to do some typing. and be real, we all make our own time to screw off whether it's the "2 hour lunch" for the dicks, or the 2 hour " i'm down on an arrest" that can be done in 30 minutes if you know what your doing, for patrol.
You have a detectives list and many still want to be promoted of this list Im waiting!
Anonymous said...
Duties performed by the community policing officers. Link to document:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/36878958/Guidelines-Community-Policing-Sergeant-amp-Office-08-Jan-09
Read it and if you still want to put them down then fine. Read what they do first.
9/04/2010 02:23:00 AM
What is not addressed is just how unnecessary most of these duties are. Every duty in that G.O. that has merit was previously handled by the Neighborhodd Relations Sergeant and the District Secretary. The problem with spelling out all these duties is that "specilaists" are created, and unnecessary jobs suddenly become necessary. Most of the G.O. is eywash.
Remember the title is "Police Officer assigned as Detective"
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