Where to March Followup
The final tally (sort of) is 2,241 to 324 in favor of marching at City Hall.
FOP should have run a quick survey to see where everyone wanted to march. It would have been obvious to a blind monkey that support for marching at HQ was tepid. But we really don't think they foresaw this curveball by Shanks. Now, in light of Shortshanks not running for reelection, one has to ask the question - is there a point to marching at City Hall now?
Our money is on Shanks letting J-Fled serve out his last six months, regardless if we march. There's no point in firing him when Daley can keep him around collecting a check and taking shots for the mayor.
UPDATE: We aren't sure why the poll isn't showing totals and percentages this time. We're checking the code this morning. We'll try to get it fixed ASAP.
FOP should have run a quick survey to see where everyone wanted to march. It would have been obvious to a blind monkey that support for marching at HQ was tepid. But we really don't think they foresaw this curveball by Shanks. Now, in light of Shortshanks not running for reelection, one has to ask the question - is there a point to marching at City Hall now?
Our money is on Shanks letting J-Fled serve out his last six months, regardless if we march. There's no point in firing him when Daley can keep him around collecting a check and taking shots for the mayor.
UPDATE: We aren't sure why the poll isn't showing totals and percentages this time. We're checking the code this morning. We'll try to get it fixed ASAP.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
84 Comments:
Make Weis eat his stupid ass words in the interview, stating only a few POs were upset, and that stupid comment about the gold bar...
...MARCH on 35th.
No breaks for Da Mayo!! I want him to leave like one of the old washed up mob bosses!! Maybe he will look like Joey Lombardo because he knows the end is near. He screwed this city and the 2 million people in it!! Will be considered the worst Mayo in Chicago history hope you end up in a jail cell you crook!!! Keep the march at the hall he never gave breaks to those he threw under the bus!!!
Sure, City Hall might be everyone's choice. But if we have a big enough group like we did before, the media will come, the venue doesn't really matter. The media wants to know what we are saying. Believe me, they have looked up this site in the past, right SCC??? You betcha! (Alaskan accent)
What's the point of marching? Jody ain't leaving until Feb 2010. Dayle will let the new mayor pick jody's replacement. We'll have an actor in the mean time. They won't hire any more police until then.
Anyone who marches is wasting their time.
http://highwayroadrunner.blogspot.com/2010/09/sos-has-been-sounded-for-chicago-what.html?spref=fb
Is this city safe to live in? Is it safe for our citizens? our children? our visitors?
I believe we need positive change now, not tomorrow. To change the status quo will require action on everyone's part.
On WGN Radio, I asked for 50,000 Chicagoans to assemble at Chicago City Hall on Wednesday, September 15th @ 10 am... to march for positive change in our police department and the safety of all Chicagoans.
Is this why he announced that he wasn't running? Maybe he will change his mind later?
I voted not really. The people at HQ are not our representitives. They are not even the police. They are puppets. We need to just pat them on their head and say "Yes dear" as we roll our collective eyes.
Q. Can't someone say anything good about Mayor Daley?
A. His brothers are worse.
Tell George & Blago we said hello when you hit the Crossbar Hotel.
The Stuttering Prick makes Machiavelli look like a choirboy.
Me thinks that Mayor Richard M. Daley is attempting to mitigate one of the worst police scandals in history.
Averting things doesn't mitigate responsibility.
Regardless of him leaving. 35th will not generate the same amount of news coverage and visibility that city hall would. I want jfled out now and maybe the mayor does one good deed on his way out and gives us one of our own to run things.
There are still issues that need to be addressed, even though the midgit isn't running. Personnel shortages and officer safety issues still exist.
F.O.P. efforts would be best spent taking a highly publicized "no confidence" vote on J-Fled with secret ballots sent out to the entire membership. F.O.P. unit reps already unanimously voted "no confidence" in J-Fled in April, 2010.
For reasons previously cited and despite Daley's decision to not seek reelection, any rally should be held at City Hall. The demonstration scheduled for next Wednesday at HQ should be cancelled forthwith. The next F.O.P. general membership meeting is less than two weeks away on Tuesday, September 21. Let's get a consensus. What's the rush?
CPD morale is nonexistent because of this clueless, lying coward who is held in utter contempt. He couldn't lead a starving dog to a T-bone steak.
"If I...saw that I was the cause of (poor) morale in this department, no one would have to ask me to leave. I would leave on my own." - J.P. Weis, the shameless pathological liar.
Lame duck or not, Daley must immediately address the lack of manpower crisis in the compelling interests of the safety of the public and our police officers.
There is no need for the time-consuming process of deciding on an outside vendor to get officers into the pipeline. Daley merely announces that the first wave of applicants will be tested no later than Thanksgiving. They sit for a citywide two part test screening:
(1) the widely used Wonderlic 12 minute, 50 item multiple choice test for intelligence (or lack thereof). Wonderlic is conveniently based in suburban Libertyville.
(2) the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory (MMPI-II) is the foremost written psychological screen.
In both instances, outside monitors will be used followed by computer scoring.
We are desperate for manpower. Let's get it rolling ASAP.
Gotta be a HQ now. Our problem is now at HQ.
da mayor will be around 4 awhile still.
dont think he hasnt stolen everything yet.
he will pull a stroger trust me.
Ultimate Tactical Warrior for next supt.
I honestly was planning on marching. I just got a court notification for that morning so I can't go. I hope everybody that is physically able, should go. Continue to "stir da pot" and bring attention to all that is wrong in this city and police department.
If only Mayor Richard M. Daley had sincerely cried those tears on the occassions of Chicago Police Officers unnecessary deaths and maimings.
If only Mayor Richard M. Daley had shed those tears when children and Chicago's citizens were being raped, robbed and murdered in the streets of Chicago.
If only Mayor Richard M. Daley had not neglected those who honorably served the City of Chicago their entire lives and gave their very own blood for Chicago.
If only...
Expect no tears and no sympathy from those whom you walked upon and looked upon as servants and serfs.
Why would you compromise the security of all Chicagoans by letting the Chicago Police Department fall short 3,000+ police officers?
Thank God Lord Mayor Richard M. Daley the Tyrant is NO MORE!!!
You want to get some attention? March at O'Hare. Talk about exposure.
Anybody who does not march is playing right into the little shit's hands. J-Fled needs to be gone NOW. Just like Cozzi is in prison NOW. Just like you sould march NOW. Go ahead and give this POS 6 months to work out a deal with the next mayor, and don't forget when it gets cold he will make it look like his stupid strategies are working. weis INSULTED ALL POLICE WHEN HE SAID THAT ONLY A FEW WERE UNHAPPY WITH HIS TENURE. SHOW HIM THOUSANDS AND "NO PITY FROM SCC CITY."
Keep the spotlight on him(Daley), who cares about Weis.
He is capable of anything on his way out the back door. He may try to ram through a pension "reform" in Springfield as a final fuck you as he flees. Remember, he gets his now and will laugh his ass off til he dies if he gets to fuck us in the coming momths.
Start pressuring Quinn, Cullerton, and Madigan now not to support anymore of his evil plans.
JFLED is head is on the chopping block. lets show the next mayor just how much we need fled and masters to leave
But keeping the pressure on would probably be a very good idea as a candidate could use CPD as an election issue.
And, why not humiliate Weis as much as possible. This does explain tho why Daley hasn't dumped him. He knew he wasn't going to run.
---not a cop
Dart=Daley remember this
Keep up the heat on JFLED Masters and Co and running scared
There will be no changes until a new thief is elected.No sense trying to guess who new in charge lackeys will be until election is won.Winner will put his/her ass lickers in charge of all departments.A march is a complete waste of time and will accomplish nothing.Maybe wait and see how the new master treats this town then decide whether to march.
No Confidence march at 35th Street!!!!
Kick em when their up, kick em when their down!
You have to send a message to the next one in charge at city hall and the alderminions who are making the decisions for this city.
They're both (ss shanks and JOdee) bailing out on a sinking ship that they drilled the hole in.
Now both will be "lame ducks" still causing misery to all because of their stupidity and greedy motives.
What a dumb question, SCC. If ever there was a time to flex our political muscle, NOW IS THE TIME. Think about it before you post such defeatist stupidity, por favor.
March, dammit, march!
The plans for the march may have influenced Daley's decision to step down. Or not. Either way, don't lose momentum now. People need to know about the manpower shortage and Weis issues (trust me most people don't know unless they read SCC.)
Daley can still further trash the city before he goes. Remember the midnight destruction of Meigs Field? Wanna see the midnight destruction of the CPD? Don't think Daley is that vindictive? Think again. Marching and being in the media marching offers some protection: the public will SEE the spectacle. If he does anything to hurt the CPD or put anyone even worse into the Sup position, the public will be more in your court.
For a laugh:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/cityhall/1959372,mayor-daley-flubs-fiascoes-122609.article
Citizen on your side
Major scandal breaking to the surface involving police brass. Hold on to you hats. This one is ugly and will set back th ereputation of CPD for generations. Now I know why Daley left so abruptly.
Your writing suggests marching at city hall and the poll asks about marching at headquarters. Which is it? I'm still for city hall, not headquarters.
I have a question... I am a civilian and not wearing my flame retardant undies so go easy on me if it's a dumb question... but why don't you guys sue the mayor and the city for negligently endangering your lives and the lives of civilians by allowing the manpower situation to continue? Is it your contract that prevents you from going into civil court and getting injunctive relief? I grew up in this city and I am scared to death.
"Averting things doesn't mitigate responsibility."
No, it doesn't, but Daley has been a Master (Masters, Masters) at avoiding responsibility; he's always had a scapegoat whenever anything was bad.
The media never pushes it, although he's ultimately responsible. He just stands there, mumbles, says something dopey, everyone laughs and it's onto the next topic.
This will be no different.
"Wonderlic is conveniently based in suburban Libertyville."
Yeah, but dere not connected to me or my friends.
"he will pull a stroger trust me."
They'll name a hospital after him and he won't even be treated there.
He'll be dead, but they'll keep him "alive" long enough to get his son into office? That'll suck.
Still a March to protest poor leadership, lack of hiring police officers, and unsafe working conditions, Daley or no daley.
revert the Gold Braid Pension to pay out only the Civil Service Rank of those involved.
Daley should get NO free or otherwise CPD bodyguard protection after he leaves office. Let him pay for private security himself, or get a concealed weapons permit. I'm sure he will [hopefully] leave Crookago anyway. My tax dollar for still giving him free perks, ABSOLUTELY NO.
J.J. FOR SUPERINTENDENT !
This is why I will not march.
It will change nothing. We already know this.
STOP doing search warrants.
STOP writing tickets
STOP writing contact cards
STOP with parking citations
STOP with these BS numbers
Get rid of your suck ass poistion. IE Tact,Gangs,TRU, Traffic car exc....
The same people that are marching are the S-A-M-E people doing all of the above. YOU are the problem! If we did all of this we would not have to march on OUR time off. The writing will already be on the wall.
DO provide good service
DO respond to your calls in a timely matter
DO cut reports,
Do Drive safely
DO Treat people with respect
DO Signed complaints only
DO help out the good citizen
Do act professional at all times.
Do take pride in yourself.
"I Like GOLD,I Like Bricks,Fuck Jody WEIS...he's a prick".
I DARE SOMEONE to paint themselves gold and run around the building naked.
"We Hate GOLD,We Hate BROWN,JODY WEIS is a MONGOLOID CLOWN"!
Think about this:
Shorty lame duck re-signs J-Fled to a new multiyear/multimillion dollar contract in January. The new mayor is stuck with frankenhead or must buy out his contract. CPD and the people are all screwed. I wouldn't put it past him.
Northside (3 AM):
As you posted long ago, drop the educational requirement. There are guys with just high school diplomas that are Mensa material.
Then you have guys with 60 credit hours from some Mickey Mouse "college" that are as dumb as a sack of hammers.
If you have "adverse racial impact" in the results of the testing process, draw from "the best and brightest" of each racial group for the sacred cow of "diversity" if you must.
We have too many imbeciles on the job as is. Educational requirements are nothing more than public relations "spin". Just more "politically correct" bureaucratic bullshit to placate the oblivious media and the public.
We must cull the herd, many of whom are demoralizing "merit" morons.
I agree that any protest march should be at City Hall for maximum impact. Postpone any action until after the next FOP general meeting.
Weiss must be planning something his blog 501 hasn't been updated in over a month. Exit Plan?
Anonymous said...
Major scandal breaking to the surface involving police brass. Hold on to you hats. This one is ugly and will set back th ereputation of CPD for generations. Now I know why Daley left so abruptly.
9/08/2010 09:10:00 AM
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C'mon now, dont tease us......
This is why I will not march.
It will change nothing. We already know this.
STOP doing search warrants.
STOP writing tickets
STOP writing contact cards
STOP with parking citations
STOP with these BS numbers
Get rid of your suck ass poistion. IE Tact,Gangs,TRU, Traffic car exc....
The same people that are marching are the S-A-M-E people doing all of the above. YOU are the problem! If we did all of this we would not have to march on OUR time off. The writing will already be on the wall.
DO provide good service
DO respond to your calls in a timely matter
DO cut reports,
Do Drive safely
DO Treat people with respect
DO Signed complaints only
DO help out the good citizen
Do act professional at all times.
Do take pride in yourself.
...so called cops like you that make excuses not to work are pathetic. Go back to sleep or hit the "Red Box" coward.
Like Kass said, He's not dead. The timing of his announcement is not insignificant. He's hoping it would take the wind out of our sails. Not my sail pal. As long as he's still mayoring, I'm still marching. Imagine the damage this bastard is gonna due in the next nine months????
Apparently the scumtmes is afraid of Patrick Collins also. He's not even listed on that page 8 list of "Most Wanted AlderTheves & More" Kass likes him. We should throw our support behind him as a group. Al. Burke. Hahahahahahhahhaahahaahahhahhhhhahaahhahhahahhhahh.
In what fresh hell would Bill aka Satan, Daley be the next mayor? Support Pat Collins.
March like never before. Quick, before they canonize this sleazy, corrupt, dirty mother flubbernux.
"anyone who marches is wasting their time" signed, jfeds new driver
I'd rather just make Weis eat his stupis ass.
I'm going to city hall and everyone I know that's really going is also going to city hall. None of us will march on a buildin with police inside. not now, not ever. fuck daley. he needs thousands screaming to axe weis today.
"On WGN Radio, I asked for 50,000 Chicagoans to assemble at Chicago City Hall on Wednesday, September 15th @ 10 am... to march for positive change in our police department and the safety of all Chicagoans.
9/08/2010 12:28:00 AM"
So if you use these voters, they can sign an endorsement a new mayoral candidate?
But, like I said before, we should march around a bar for refreshments, finger foods and good times. Since they deplore us, we should deplore them and their bullshit rules.
March, drink, socialize and have a good time. Fuck the cause, drink for unity!
"We Hate GOLD,We Hate BROWN,JODY WEIS is a MONGOLOID CLOWN"!
Awesome dude!
We need insanely large Mardi Gras Paper Mache J.FLED heads. As ridiculous as it sounds the sight of humongous J.FLED,DALEY @ DOWNTOWN(his could be normal head HUGE ERECTION) would be almost as silly as the PREDICTIVE ANALYSIS UNIT. It would be lead story on National News.
Anonymous said...
You want to get some attention? March at O'Hare. Talk about exposure.
9/08/2010 05:26:00 AM
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Have the march in front of the domestic terminals on the upper roadway. I'll come watch the parade along with my coworkers.
I hope there is a decesion on this... 35th ST or city hall? Maybe if we can get enough po's we can do both? That'll really be a message! I can see news going back and forth from coverage at city hall to 35th street!!
Where's the morale survey results?
just axin
Daley is like a drug dealer, he always has a layer of 2 - 3 people to do his dirty work. Of course the feebs haven't figured this out yet.
Blogger sharky said...
Anonymous said...
Major scandal breaking to the surface involving police brass. Hold on to you hats. This one is ugly and will set back th ereputation of CPD for generations. Now I know why Daley left so abruptly.
9/08/2010 09:10:00 AM
The moron who tries to start some rumor but can never elaborate on it is at it again. How about say what it is and back it up with some proof.
Yes we march!!!! Keep the light on him...Signs with these ass-hole alderman's names (with red circle & slash) "Daley's Cronies" under it or better yet their picture w/the circle & slash!!! Jacksons, Rham all of these assholes!!!! Not one should be associated w/Daley!!!!! Lets not back down now...keep the public strong!!!!! Let them know that we can't feel that false sense of security because he is not re-running!!! All smoke & mirrors..he knows just what he is doing & will continue to control who he puts in!!!
Elect Tom DART for Mayor & you will wish for the return to Richard Daley.
Say NO to DART!!!
Notice how the media interviewed all the positive folks out there??? Bridgeport...oh how great he is!!! Why did'nt they go into the taverns (like they do for sports) street corners? Wards that are trashed? (Ald.Sandi Jackson) Gang infested neighborhoods?? A dead ones family??? Laid off workers??? Truth must be told!!!! We need to MARCH!!!!! We can't stop now!!!
MARCH!!!! We need to show that WE are gonna take OUR CITY back!!!!! We have the backs of many GOOD residents...Can't believe how the tide has changed in the last few months..have had many people of all races say how they DO appreciate us for what we do & keep our chins up!! (THANK YOU) He wants us to back down now. MARCH!!!!
I will do city hall fuck 35th street waste of time, we got daley to leave,now the flop "5" must go and now!
Del Valle for Mayor. I am a M/2, but I think he would rep. all the city.
"...the widely used Wonderlic 12 minute..."
She used to work Madison & Kenton. Met her in '86 as a recruit.
Thanks for the memories, Northside.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Blogger sharky said...
Anonymous said...
Major scandal breaking to the surface involving police brass. Hold on to you hats. This one is ugly and will set back th ereputation of CPD for generations. Now I know why Daley left so abruptly.
9/08/2010 09:10:00 AM
The moron who tries to start some rumor but can never elaborate on it is at it again. How about say what it is and back it up with some proof.
9/08/2010 09:47:00 PM
This must be the other MORON who heard the same thing too. Check IP addresses, there is some major shit going down shortly and Daley knows it.
Blogger sharky said...
Anonymous said...
Major scandal breaking to the surface involving police brass. Hold on to you hats. This one is ugly and will set back th ereputation of CPD for generations. Now I know why Daley left so abruptly.
9/08/2010 09:10:00 AM
The moron who tries to start some rumor but can never elaborate on it is at it again. How about say what it is and back it up with some proof.
9/08/2010 09:47:00 PM
Oh, come on. The "Rumor Mill" poster offers wildly detailed speculation about Donahue and Daley. Is that shit better? It's still all bullshit, plain and simple.
OK... will somebody from FOP through SCC and the FOP site "Officially" give the time/location (i.e. City Hall 10 a.m.) of the march.
Just axin'
You have to send a message to the next one in charge at city hall and the alderminions who are making the decisions for this city.
9/08/2010 07:57:00 AM
I agree with 7:57!! A message must still be sent!!
Anonymous said...
Del Valle for Mayor. I am a M/2, but I think he would rep. all the city.
9/08/2010 11:19:00 PM
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I'm a F/2 and will consider anyone who wants to work with all Chicagoans to address problems facing our communities.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Del Valle for Mayor. I am a M/2, but I think he would rep. all the city.
9/08/2010 11:19:00 PM
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I'm a F/2 and will consider anyone who wants to work with all Chicagoans to address problems facing our communities.
9/09/2010 06:22:00 PM
talks like Mr. Magoo was put in the clerks office by daley sorry he is a daley clone!
As long it ain't that snake Congressman Gutierrez!
This guy is a gang-banging, sanctuary loving, thief! He will bankrupt this city!
He is absolutely bad for Chicago!
Second City, I commend your for stead fast commitment in keeping the men and women in Blue informed with the daily bureaucracy in the CPD.
This is a great time for SSC to take the lead in lieu of FOP in organizing and gathering the CPD votes for the next candidate for Mayor of Chicago that would be a friend to the police.
Deomonostrate and get the members to participate in this march, and continue to have more marches in the future. Whoever the candidate will be, he/she will need ALL the Police and Fire VOTES. I've always heard the members say, lift the residency rule, keep the Supt position within, etc.
SCC you probably have more visits on this web then FOP has members at its meetings.
Think about it, now is the time to organize and take the lead that FOP should have been doing thus far. Im not bashing FOP, but I believe SCC can really take the charge to help its fellow officer.
SCC you probably have more visits on this web then FOP has members at its meetings.
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Have you clicked the site meter at the bottom of the main page? SCC has more visits in a single day that the FOP has active members. 14,000 every day! That's some voice. Use it SCC!!!
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