Details for "Less Productive" Officers?
This would be a riot:
- A little mouse tells me E.B. believes the best way to make workers out of his "Worst Performer List" is a nice 90 day detail to 6,7,11 or 15. Hey dogs get ready to be the real police.
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
146 Comments:
Yes he could and is.
Nothing would surprise me, at this point. All I know is, a LOT of people are going to be Medical or IOD.
Never have I seen so many lambs leading so many lions! This phrase sums up the leadership, rather the EGOSHIP of the CPD.
What a bunch of nonsense. The officers on our watch who were dubbed "lowest performers" were far from such. There is no criteria for this to begin with. The idea to detail these so called low performers will never become reality. Another trial balloon floated and shot down like so many other J-fled others.
Why the fuck not..... Nobody else likes to follow the contract either! Did I miss something???? They can detail me out of the district that I have been in for 10 years??? Wow... Makes me wanna go do some work....NOT!
Oh no children captain Al in 001 is going to call Ernie on you so he can get promoted. Big Al means business and dont make him yell. Capt Nagode is the real deal.
i personally love the idea. F*ck all these dogs. I have guys on our watch that don't do a damn thing. Every time they get any job at all, even a parker, it takes them minimun 30 mins. We end up handling all of their jobs on their beat. It blows. Not to mention every time they get called they mysteriously need a personal. F them. Send them to the ghetto. They're useless.
In the last contract negotiations, did we give up having a contract?
Maybe I missed it....
T minus ten days, and counting.
I feel a long medical stint coming on. Our fucking district is short now, how the fuck you going to detail anyone out and man the proper cars? Downtown EB is a real fuckin dooche-bag!
I really don't see this as a bad idea. I don't see how EB can pull it off, with the Union protections built into the contracts, but I'd love to see a dogass from an area 3
District take a 'sabbatical' to the fightin' 004th! Boy, would they have a new appreciation for where they were when they'd get back there (if they were able to return!).
A little mouse tells me E.B. believes the best way to make workers out of his "Worst Performer List" is a nice 90 day detail to 6,7,11 or 15. Hey dogs get ready to be the real police.
This might be a union violation. Instead of punishing de policing do nothing officers, why not give the officers that work in those districts hazardous duty pay and fast track them for promotion and specialized assignments, and special employment preference.
Now don't start whining about we're all police-there's a difference between those districts and slow districts, and I've worked both.I've worked in an area 2 district where I got 30 calls per watch. Now I'm in an area 3 district and I get 1 or 2 radio assignments a night.But What if you're a dogass and you're already assigned to one of those districts?
It can happen, anyone can be detailed for 90 days regardless of seniority. Might be a good wakeup call..
He's stupider. Just wait.
Clouted P.O.'s would make phone calls to avoid the move. Old timers will either grieve it (successfully) or pull the plug early, leaving the department with even less manpower. Most of the rest of the bunch would promptly suffer from a back injury and go on the medical for a few months. Yeah, this sure looks like a great idea!
*facepalm*
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Unless you're the lowest in seniority, I don't see that happening. Can you spell "grievance"?
Bwaaaa hahahahahaha! What can you do to me if I was a dog? I'm already on mids in 006! EB you big dummy!
How about a nice 90 day medical note from the doctor to solve that problem or better yet, a 90 IOD detail.
Where in the GO's does it say I have to produce. I answer my calls and give good police service.
Bring it on. I could use the money.
What are they going to do to the dogs that work in 6, 7, 11, and 15?
Thats right send people to work in the ghetto as a punishment and see how the city is served. The presumption is that black people are so horrible that you have to draft people to serve them against their will???? What happens when a copper shoots an offender down there??? How many coppers will go down there and quickly hit the medical??? How many will quickly get an IOD? Ernie is one big dumb jagoff and this will backfire in his face.Black citizens need real police protection and service just like everybody else and to send some pissed off non-performer will just exacerbate the problem. A real cop would know this. How about addressing the morale issue? No one is producing with J-Fled and his stooges running the dept. and a complete overhaul is needed from the top down. J-Fled is sooooo quiet lately... even Rahm E. the 4 ft tall tyrant from Washington said the CPD needs more officers and a whole new overhaul.J-Fled and how to dispose of him is the major campaign issue in the upcoming election. I love it.
Looks like some people are going to win the ghetto lottery and retire early.
So dumb, so dumb.
The other way a hostile work environment may be defined is when a boss or manager begins to engage in a manner designed to make you quit in retaliation for your actions.
EEOC Beef.
If I'm a dog ass and I work in one of these districts, I'm ok then right??
I know that rumor will scare 90% of pos here hahah. Ill go back for a little fun.....
Good riddance, Fuck the DOGS!!!
WOW! What the hell is E.B. smoking? And what about the worst performers in 6,7,11,and 15? Where does he plan on sending them?
No. This looks more like E.B. trying to get on the good side of all those store front reverunds by taking coppers from all other districts and throwing them in their home districts.
I don't know if it's being done the same city wide, but in 024 they put 4 from 2nd, 3 from 3rd and 3 from 1st on the list. That's a total of 10 coppers.
10 total from 21 districts (if you don't include 6,7,11 or 15)gives you 210 blue shirts. If you divide them up equally between the 4 listed destinations, each district would get about 52 additional bodies ( ok, 52.5 for those counting). If you divide them equally among the 3 watches, each of those districts would get an additional 17 blue shirts (or 17.5 for those expect precision) per watch.
17 additional bodies, per watch, to put on the streets! Ernie would become their saviour!
Then if you take into account the changes to MSF (Suntimes article for 05 Oct 2010)it's definitely going to be a riot!
Yeah, fucking with a guys seniority and his union contract will certainly make him more productive.
I can't think of a better way to turn even the most active coppers into drive-around-in-a-circle do-nothings, than to try a stunt like that!
Where the fuck do these dumb fucks get their ideas from anyway? This is so fucking stupid, even the policy group couldn't have come up with it!
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Yes, EB IS that stupid! He needs to be launched now.
I know the Union protects everyone, but think for a minute: Wouldn't it be nice if the could send the biggest dogs away for three months of expressway punishment. I know, it would be abused. It would be a popularity contest, blah, blah, blah...... but it would be sweet...in a perfect world.
Ha! I'm already assigned to 011!! Please send me closer to home over to 006!!
LMAO!!
90 days would be about how long it would take me to get through my ortho knee surgury.
Then light duty.
Rahm Emanuel has some police relatives and I am sure they are telling him to get rid of E.B., as well as Weis, Brust, O'Keefe and Masters(3x).
Hey you goofs, try not to do any more damage in you last days.
awsome, i hope it is true.
I can do nothing anywhere, then buy a new car with my settlement.
Not a rumor but true statement. Contract won't protect officers, but I guess the medical will. Medical roll soon to increase.
No. Send 'em all to the "new" fiff MSF brigade on daze. MSF you say? Yep, that's where our next Supernintendo and/or First Deputy Dawg, Admiral James Roussell, be.
Nice MSF fluff piece by the honourable Frank Main in two-daze Scum-Times:
http://www.suntimes.com/news
/metro/2772930,CST-NWS-
strikeforce05.article
Nice quote too:
""Do we need more beat cars? Absolutely," Roussell said recently at his Mobile Strike Force headquarters on the West Side. "But this is a big bang for the buck...We're there to take some of the pressure off the beat cops."
They'll take all the pressure off the beat cops because they'll be no more beat cops left. Just roving bands of MSF in the ghetto and three 10-99 beat cops to cover paper jobs (including one for lunch relief) in the rest of the city.
Good thing our FLOP brethren are on top of all this.
G*d help us and patrol.
They better keep some to detail to the Medical Section too. HAHAHAHAHAAAA
EB wants production and the city wants revenue? Simple solution, any officer detailed because of this BS should grab two or three parker books a day and hit the store front churches. They like to double and triple park! I would also suggest keeping a notebook with everything told to you by the supervisors, be they Sgts, Lts, Capts, or Commanders. It will really come in hand for the lawsuit! ;)
"Even Ernie couldn't be this stupid, could he?"
ANSWER: Yes
If I'm correct, details are either: A) by reverse seniority, or B) on a volunteer basis.
"Details" are not to be administered to various officers as a means of punishment or to spur proactivity. Hey, wait a minute!?!?! I thought the CPD didn't have a "Quota" system. Oooohhhh...that's right - we call it an "Index" so as not to draw undue attention to this aspect of CPD fakery.
Any officer that gets wind of being detailed should immediately demand, IN WRITING from the supervisor(s) dropping the bomb, an explanation for being detailed against their wishes. Reference to being "Less Productive" than their co-workers should be included as well.
Start and maintain a detailed paper trail so your attorney has all the ammunition that he or she will need to make you a wealthy person when every Bosshole involved gets through testifying at your civil trial.
I hope I make the list, but what are they going to do to me? Send me to 011 from 015? Ha! I say bring it, chumps! 015? 011? Same savages, different district, same "Do Nothing" from me.
Why does Ernie Brown, a black supervisor, think working in a predominatly black neighborhood is punishment??
If this is done right, it is definitely needed. Every watch and district i have been on has the guys who never respond to assist calls, dog their jobs, and are either lazy welfare types or cowards. The union should never defend these POS's. But you know it won't be done right, clout, friends of the Pos boss etc.
So what if you already work in 6,7,11,15?
If this policy was in effect when EB was a PO or Sgt he would have spent 90 days in a district every year.
I do think we should write more parkers and movers as long as every penny raised is dedicated to hiring more PO's.
Wouldn't bother me said...
I know the Union protects everyone, but think for a minute: Wouldn't it be nice if the could send the biggest dogs away for three months of expressway punishment. I know, it would be abused. It would be a popularity contest, blah, blah, blah...... but it would be sweet...in a perfect world.
10/05/2010 07:57:00 AM
Hey, Goof. I do what I consider a reasonable amount of work, though I'm past my Tact Team days. Look around. Most everybody does SOMETHING out there. Many just won't do ANYTHING while J-Fled is still here. But taking guys out of YOUR district just means that YOU are being punished.
Now, while disgruntled officers are being fucked with, they will go from "less productive" to totally "non-productive" and/or medical abusers. How does that solve YOUR problem or that of this Department? Coppers are too smart to let Ernie Brown get the better of them.
We were talking about this at the Densey Cole Benefit and if you are one of those White/Male Officers in those Northside Districts maybe it's time to demand the lists are posted or else expunged from your record. Of all people Loevy and Loevy had expressed interest in this . The lists are disproportionately M/2/40 yr olds under 20 yrs. The W/C's who wouldn't accept input from their Supv's might want to start hiding their assets.
Anonymous said...
I really don't see this as a bad idea. I don't see how EB can pull it off, with the Union protections built into the contracts, but I'd love to see a dogass from an area 3
District take a 'sabbatical' to the fightin' 004th! Boy, would they have a new appreciation for where they were when they'd get back there (if they were able to return!).
10/05/2010 12:42:00 AM
The reason I am in an area 3 district is because I did my time in the fightin' districts years ago. Now I have something called seniority and I don't have to work there.
Let them try to detail me to some south side shithole. Go ahead, make my day. I fucking dare them.
Anonymous said...
If I'm a dog ass and I work in one of these districts, I'm ok then right??
10/05/2010 06:18:00 AM
Hell no! They will detail you to 019 and force you to take two or three radio calls a night and eat in nice restaurants and look at human beings for your whole tour. Take that ghetto dog ass!
Anonymous said...
Why does Ernie Brown, a black supervisor, think working in a predominatly black neighborhood is punishment??
10/05/2010 08:58:00 AM
Maybe for some of the same reasons Alderman Beale considers getting an education an unfair burden imposed on the black man by white people born with a good job, an education and a clean arrest record.
Anonymous said...
EB wants production and the city wants revenue? Simple solution, any officer detailed because of this BS should grab two or three parker books a day and hit the store front churches. They like to double and triple park! I would also suggest keeping a notebook with everything told to you by the supervisors, be they Sgts, Lts, Capts, or Commanders. It will really come in hand for the lawsuit! ;)
10/05/2010 08:52:00 AM
Oh yeah, detail me to the west side and I will start a riot writing parkers up and down Lake St and Madison St for all the double parked rides. I would keep a fleet of tow trucks busy hooking cars of unlicensed/uninsured drivers.
Send me there, please. See what happens.
- revolver police who carries a Glock with 4 extra clips.
It looks like this rumor struck a chord with the district dog asses. If you were quick to respond to this post you are probably one of them. You know the ones down on a parker for an hour or the hey I just sat down for lunch can you reassign that job. Its about time laziness get punished on this job.
The inaction on the part of the F.O.P. is infuriating. If it takes an E.E.O.C lawsuit to address this ,then that should be the next step. I know 3 people on the list who each have done nothing to constitute this and are exemplary officers. Their only sin is being Middle Aged White Guys with stable families who hustle fron sidejob to sidejob. Their W/C's should be ashamed to look them in the eye.
I am a supervisor in a Northside Dist and when good workers and very good people are categorized in this manner and a pyschopatic Sex-Offender made to stay in a C.T.A stop with an orange vest on isn't , that is a problem.Someone needs to stand up for these guys they are getting railroaded and the city CAN detail them ANYWHERE for 90 days.
"nice 90 day detail to 6,7,11or 15"
He's sending them there to augment the dogasses in those districts.
Why not 25,8 & 10? Those districts have twice the service calls then the districts they're on the same zone with.
There is a common demominator within those afore mentioned districts. Meanwhile those that pay the most get the least,nothing new there
"Why does Ernie Brown, a black supervisor, think working in a predominatly black neighborhood is punishment??
10/05/2010 08:58:00 AM"
Becuz the Revs who he's beholden to think their societal problems will solved by 100's of Police Officers in their communities. Never in the history of Mankind has one culture been so overly reliant on Government intervention to dictate their daily existence
Why does Ernie Brown, a black supervisor, think working in a predominatly black neighborhood is punishment??
10/05/2010 08:58:00 AM
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I doubt he does. It's more a way of fully staffing the most understaffed districts and making it sound like he's being proactive.
>>>E.B. believes the best way to make workers out of his "Worst Performer List" is a nice 90 day detail to 6,7,11 or 15. Hey dogs get ready to be the real police.<<<
Don't put them in the Districts you idiot.
That's where bad things happen all the time and we need officers who work the same streets all the time there.
Put "Less Productive Officers" in TRU and MSF where they can bust drinkers and nickle baggers and lucy sellers.
yea ok ernest,your a fucking liar like on that ARIZONA job where the newpapers called out your LIES! Your just another clouted,dumbass POS! Go ahead ernie detail me to another district still will take my time on jobs,do all nice paper so now what asshole??
Anonymous Wouldn't bother me said...
I know the Union protects everyone, but think for a minute: Wouldn't it be nice if the could send the biggest dogs away for three months of expressway punishment. I know, it would be abused. It would be a popularity contest, blah, blah, blah...... but it would be sweet...in a perfect world.
10/05/2010 07:57:00 AM
yes thats it! And lets send all the hair gels to more msf units! That would be kool! It's like this many already did the running and gunning bullshit,now the younger kids must step up! Sorry no matter where I am at,I will retire without being indicted,or getting sued and punished ala COZZI! Go ahead ernie make my day!
What makes him think they won't be a dog in one of our districts. Now we have to put up with busy calls, and handle calls that those dogs aren't taking care of two. Might as well just leave them where they are.
How about the ten dumbest exempts being demoted back to P.P.O. status in order to learn the job. Ernie Brown would be #1. Weiss doesn't qualify becuase he never was nor ever will be cop.
sounds like a Contract Violation..
I've never seen so many stupid pricks with stupid ideas in my life. How about fixing the morale problem by using your collective pea-brains, instead of looking to punish officers with legitimate complaints.
No way in hell could he pull this off! No one has yet to outline the criteria and guidelines for the "underperformers". I know we have PLENTY of useless Officers around but until they come up with some guidelines, this will never happen. We still do have a contract!
Why does Ernie Brown, a black supervisor, think working in a predominately black neighborhood is punishment??
10/05/2010 08:58:00 AM
I fixed the spelling of predominately for you. ANYWAY, good one!
Nonetheless, I think this is a great idea, as you can see everyone on this blog is already quivering and whining! Me? How can I give a fuck about this when I work in one of the aforementioned districts.
So, let me get this straight. I don't produce, I get sent to a district to produce and . . . .I don't produce. Now what?
Is J-Fled going to be sent to one of these districts? What if your a dog and already work in one of the mentioned districts?
i personally love the idea. F*ck all these dogs. I have guys on our watch that don't do a damn thing.
--Ya know what punk??? These evals blow. I might check off with a zero but the 22 jobs I had to answer should count for something; sit in the hospital on prisoner detail; take 4 hours to process an arrest because I had to sit with a juve at the hospital for hours before I go to the JISC to sit for a few more hours; 4 hours for G&O. So they can go F* themselves if they want to classify someone as a low performer just because of #'s.
You have a contract; a bid spot in the district. No Can Do!
i personally love the idea. F*ck all these dogs. I have guys on our watch that don't do a damn thing. Every time they get any job at all, even a parker, it takes them minimun 30 mins. We end up handling all of their jobs on their beat. It blows. Not to mention every time they get called they mysteriously need a personal. F them. Send them to the ghetto. They're useless.
10/05/2010 12:23:00 AM
Funny, the paycheck is EXACTALY the same!
How about all the one rock heros and the nickle bag weed jockers? These guys get alot of arrests but they blow off jobs so they can pick off hypes in the ghetto. Or they get banged and all of the sudden they are on a street or traffic stop. And the next available car gets their CSA or some other shit job. These are the same guys that when they do get a shooting or a good domestic fuck it up beyond belief because they have no idea what to do. The department needs to look at QUALITY and not quantity. There are tact guys bringing in pissers and drinkers and nickle bag weed pinches while working in the shit ghetto. I would be embarressed to bring that shit in .Learn how to be the police then walk around like you have a 12" hammer.
And every day that they send them there to work, they will get time and a half.... Ciontractual agreements cannot be breached by E.B. and he knows it.
Will that include the downtown house cats that have zero activity due to their assignments??
A great wake up call, do it just do not get good hard working Police men and women hurt.
I like this idea.
Ernie Brown , it's about time .
A boss that will deal with the dogs on CPD
Maybe these dogs will appreciate their cushy districts and units after a detail to Englewood , Austin or Gresham
Go for it Ernie the working Police Officers are on your side
don't be hating on the dogs, some of them were the real police once upon a time--- if you are laying on your back being pummelled and screaming into your radio for help do you really care if it's a dog or some greyhound who shows up to save your ass--- myself, most would consider me a pooch but i can still load up and throw a mean straight right and do good paper afterwards and i will be the first guy to help you even if i don't like you, the committment was made a long time ago......
How about reassigning some of the do nothing supervisors in 16 and 17 to 11 and 15
SOLUTION:
ASSIGNED THEM ALL TO TRU OR MSF!
PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What are they going to do to the dogs that work in 6, 7, 11, and 15?
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They'll be detail to 016, 017, 023, and 019....
A PLACE FOR THE LESS PRODUCTIVE:
Chicago Police Cmdr. James Roussell is obsessed with the number zero.
His goal is to have zero murders in neighborhoods where his Mobile Strike Force officers are assigned.(sntimes)
Downtown EB kidnapped?????
Check out event no. 1027807914
The subhuman intelligence of these downtown idiots never ceases to amaze.
Barring contactual violations, does this complete tool Brown really think sending the bottom 10% of all police into shit neighborhoods is going to make the actually WORK??
Brown, your a fuckin' retard and your ideas constantly prove you are unfit to lead a troop of boyscouts let alone police.
And let's just ask the ghetto blasters what THEY think of having the bottom 10% working for them in the ghetto.... yah, I'm sure they all want KMA's working their districts.
Ernie, you're a complete dumbfuck.
Ernie would have a hard time getting people to follow him into a whore house!
We were talking about this at the Densey Cole Benefit and if you are one of those White/Male Officers in those Northside Districts maybe it's time to demand the lists are posted or else expunged from your record. Of all people Loevy and Loevy had expressed interest in this . The lists are disproportionately M/2/40 yr olds under 20 yrs. The W/C's who wouldn't accept input from their Supv's might want to start hiding their assets.
hahahaha, yeah ok stroke... first off nobody needs to hide anything because it wouldnt go anywhere.. second, any p.o. who would side with loevy and loevey are cowards and should leave this job. anyone who uses them as thier counsel is sticking a big finger in the faces of hundreds of coppers who have been railroaded by these jag*ffs
""Do we need more beat cars? Absolutely," Roussell said recently at his Mobile Strike Force headquarters on the West Side. "But this is a big bang for the buck...We're there to take some of the pressure off the beat cops."
Wrong, wrong, and Fucking wrong.. I've seen Officers with less than 5 years on the job who applied in MSF because they wanted to get off midnight shifts. Now, 1st watch are hurting when it comes to filling up the beat cars and so many 10-99 units are working citywide and every Officers who work 10-99 unit knows that this is totally fucking unsafe. What else? time comp now are being denied because we, the Beat Officers, are way shorthanded for the remaining periods this year because of forlo.
"Big bang for the buck" How about you give me a fucking break. Disband your useless fucking unit and man the beat cars...
What are they going to do to the dogs that work in 6, 7, 11, and 15?
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Send them to 2,3,4, and 5? Guess that we ain't gonna see ppo's for a while.......
This is a typical CPD solution. The end result will be that the dogs will be detailed to 011, 015 for 90 days, do nothing and file a grievance and get paid time and a half for those 90 days and the working po's in 011 and 015 will continue to work for straight time. So who will be the winner
It will not include the downtown housecats or all the district housecats who found a hiding place
Let's start with the do-nothing sergeants, like 3rd watch in 001. We would send her if anyone needs her!
Wouldn't this punish the working officer's in these busy districts?
Anonymous said...
How about reassigning some of the do nothing supervisors in 16 and 17 to 11 and 15
10/05/2010 02:19:00 PM
Whats a working supervisor?
How about detailing some of the idiot supervisors in 016 that basically throw themselves on the floor in tantrums like 4 year olds, screaming/yelling at po's for bullshit. Then apologizing later like fucking children. I can think of 2. Anybody want to comment with firsthand knowledge?
That would be considered a disciplinary transfer or assignment and rult in a contracual violation. Please do it EB; those guys will own the city.
There might be some dogs that work in 6,7,11,15, yes, that is possible. But most of them come to work, suit up and go on the those mean streets and answer their calls. That is a lot more than I can say for the average citizens of this city or for those detractors who are on the outside looking in. You do not have to make the most arrests or drive the fastest to your calls or write the most tickets. Just go to work every day, put on the uniform, get in that marked car and roll on those shit streets and risk your life. That is all and that is enough. Traffic enforcement is meant to educate the public, not to raise funds for the politicians to spend. I spent 34 years on the job before retiring, 24 as a supervisor. There have not been too many real dogs that i ran across, mostly just tired, burnt out and demoralized human beings who were tired of dealing with the garbage of the city every day. Someday the young officers who are so quick to slam the veterans will see this clearly.
If these guys are such dogs then let IAD do something. Instead of fucking with working cops, start following the dogs in covert vehicles and write them up for inattention to duty, etc and fire their asses. My reasoning is simple. A lot of these so called dogs aren't dogs at all but, hey, someone has to be on the list.
Does this mean that officers with a History of good work, minimum Medical time, and excellent arrest/ conviction results get to go to the really nice districts and units, and get promoted ? Of course not, that would be legit Meritorious Performance, not the lieing, b.s. "Merit/Political Clout" Crookago Way Promotions and rewards of nice spots for the "Clouted Ones" only, no matter what their past and present performance indicates.
Anonymous said...
It can happen, anyone can be detailed for 90 days regardless of seniority. Might be a good wakeup call..
10/05/2010 01:19:00 AM
You sir, an IDIOT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
See were dealing with a new generation of police that believe they are owed something without earning it.
To all the guys saying they would like to see this you are dumber then EB.
First, you may become the low performer in your unit once the low performers are detailed out. Then what?
Second, once they begin detailing officers for X it's not too long before they detail for Y. ie Absences, tardiness, too much time on lunch, etc.
Third, time due will be even harder to get then it is now.
You youngsters need to chill, no matter what you tell yourselves you too will slow down.
Wow those districts are so fast and busy an officer could fall down and get hurt! All officers who are sent out of their district should be very careful as they are not familiar with the area and any other hazards that may arise.......Bottom line be careful one job at a time and watch your ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
i personally love the idea. F*ck all these dogs. I have guys on our watch that don't do a damn thing. Every time they get any job at all, even a parker, it takes them minimun 30 mins. We end up handling all of their jobs on their beat. It blows. Not to mention every time they get called they mysteriously need a personal. F them. Send them to the ghetto. They're useless.
10/05/2010 12:23:00 AM
The hair gel has soaked in hasn't it kid? Put on your thinking cap and play follow the logic.
A.) Contractually such a punishment is not allowed. They can only move a "dog" for specific contractual reason.
B.) The program EB initiated has no set criteria. The boss could have put your name on the list because of your hipster douchebaggery. The DC could probably care less you make arrests and write parkers, but maybe he doesn't like hairgel coiffed kids such as yourself. What would you say if it was you?
C.) Some "dogs" are born that way but a lot of others are made by the Brass. Arbitrary bullshit such as this has turned many hard working coppers into check cashers. I used to work my ass off until I was told by the corp counsel to bring in my list of assets so they could settle with Pookie and his b.s. lawsuit.
Give it time kid. You're not that far from catching a bad attitude and saying fawk this department.
Now run along and save the world one dope pinch at a time. Asswipe.
so where are all the non-preformers from 6,7,11and 15 gonna go ? hmmmm !! maybe they will be sent to 019
Anonymous said...
Ernie Brown , it's about time .
A boss that will deal with the dogs on CPD
Maybe these dogs will appreciate their cushy districts and units after a detail to Englewood , Austin or Gresham
Go for it Ernie the working Police Officers are on your side
10/05/2010 02:15:00 PM
Maybe if you were to be skull fucked by some old dogs you would appreciate the virtues of keeping your mouth shut until you have been around a bit longer.
Show me how hard you are charging after a couple of federal lawsuits for being aggressive you loudmouth jagoff. Then read some self described "real police" 4 year wonders criticizing officers who were kicking ass and taking names while your mommy still wiped loose baby shit off your behind.
I don't do what I once did because I know what is important and when it counts I can handle anything.
Go fuck yourself. Bring EB along and you two can butt fuck each other you suckhole moron.
Anonymous said...
i personally love the idea. F*ck all these dogs. I have guys on our watch that don't do a damn thing. Every time they get any job at all, even a parker, it takes them minimun 30 mins. We end up handling all of their jobs on their beat. It blows. Not to mention every time they get called they mysteriously need a personal. F them. Send them to the ghetto. They're useless.
10/05/2010 12:23:00 AM
Someday you will figure out how to get the young and dumb ones to do work for you too.
What if one is already in one of these horseshit districts??? Put em on midnights 99???? And if they already work that then the next step would be foot post????? What the Fuck!!!
"How about detailing some of the idiot supervisors in 016 that basically throw themselves on the floor in tantrums like 4 year olds, screaming/yelling at po's for bullshit. Then apologizing later like fucking children. I can think of 2. Anybody want to comment with firsthand knowledge?
10/05/2010 05:08:00 PM"
Which Kaptians are you talking about?
I am a "dog ass do nothing in area 3" with almost 29 years on. My lawyer advises me to beg for such a detail for 90 days. It would put some lead in my pencil and a pile of money in my bank account. Even shylock lawyers have to pay bills.
Hey Downtown Ernie Brown, please detail me to 004 for disciplinary reasons, for non productivity, whatever that is. My lawyer needs a new Cadillac and I need some fuck you money.
Detail away. I am waiting.
"Detailed". or " Disciplined" ???
Part of the problem is ineffectual supervision.
Detail some of these supervisors who can't do their jobs while the dogs sleep all day & night. Is it so difficult to listen to the radio & tell someone they can't have their " hold me down for (fill in blank)..... ", until they finish the assignment?
Detail all those (EB)connected medical abusing light duty paper shufflers in districts/units/call back who re-occur every bump & boo-boo sustained while pulling staples out of their check stubs.
There's plenty of do-nothings all over the city, even more in those districts they want supplemented with the unproductives.
JFLED put a bunch of knuckleheads in charge and this is another one of their brainstorms.
A happy worker is a worker that respects his supervisor.
Keep merit- promoting hacks, twits and diversity, soon we'll all be doing 90 day details.
About time. You wanna make the same money as coppers in busy districts ,now youll see what its like . Leave your ticket books at home ,clean your weapons and bring a second pair id underwear .Your not in Kansas anymore. Theres no way any should of been allowed to train in 016 ,019.etc and stay there. And y would they want to,lazy. Thats a good word
OT, but kind of appropriate with EB making policy. Hey SCC, how about starting a campaign for "Mayhem" as next superintendent. We've already had "chaos" for superintendent.
Rahm Emanuel has some police relatives and I am sure they are telling him to get rid of E.B., as well as Weis, Brust, O'Keefe and Masters(3x).
The fed guys are gone if Emanuel wins or not.
We're not going to vote for Rahm the Rodent ( aka Rohdent), don't care how many PO's are in his family.
The detail is going to happen, the union is powerless, could'nt negotiate a decent raise. Mark Donahue is going to get a great post union job for selling the FOP down the river. Deal with it.
If you want to inspire those of us who choose to do less than you need not threaten to send them to the ghetto district as punishment. How about you detail them for 90 days to any other district and hopefully they will get the message. If not then keep detailing them until they do get the message.
Let's start with the do-nothing sergeants, like 3rd watch in 001. We would send her if anyone needs her!
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Let's make it clear that you're obviously not referring to the awesome, super cool blonde one with the initials P.S.
That Sgt's a keeper!
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CAN I HAVE AN EVENT NUMBER?
What kind of Unit are they putting together bring in what they deemed the worst employees. This is like the movie ADVANCE to the REAR. Did they ever hear of the word supervise. You lead, motivate, reward good workers. Multiple levels of supervison are there to make this happen. But putting a bunch of disgruntled workers together is a nightmare. The only advantage to this would be for factory work where you can watch their every move. And to get them to work or fire them.
Don't care ether way the department is NUTS. I just can't wait for a new round of gold stars.
It looks like this rumor struck a chord with the district dog asses. If you were quick to respond to this post you are probably one of them. You know the ones down on a parker for an hour or the hey I just sat down for lunch can you reassign that job. Its about time laziness get punished on this job.
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Hey Hair Gel, who are you trying to impress? Whether or not someone is a dog is really none of your business. Worry about wear your going to get your manicure and hair coiffed, not what some guy with more than twice your time is doing.
The flaws of the evaluation system and "bottom performers" designation are so numerous and glaring, that it should be odvious, even to the likes of you.
This is a blog for grown ups, that means you should stay away and do things that make people like you happy. Like, regaling your cop buddies with one of your numerous war stories at a sports bar, as you all high five each other.
Anonymous said...
If these guys are such dogs then let IAD do something. Instead of fucking with working cops, start following the dogs in covert vehicles and write them up for inattention to duty, etc and fire their asses. My reasoning is simple. A lot of these so called dogs aren't dogs at all but, hey, someone has to be on the list.
10/05/2010 05:32:00
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There you have it ladies and gentlemen. This is what's wrong with this department. Go fuck yourself you rat fuck!!!!!!!
am a "dog ass do nothing in area 3" with almost 29 years on. My lawyer advises me to beg for such a detail for 90 days. It would put some lead in my pencil and a pile of money in my bank account. Even shylock lawyers have to pay bills.
Try blogging away when you're sober. You just posted that your lawyer advised you to beg for a detail, then when you get the detail you begged to get, you're going to sue?
Ridiculous.
I'm no fan of EB, but I'm all for making a dogass's life miserable. The city don't short them on their paychecks,why should the DECENT citizens be shorted on police service?
IM not a dog....I dont generate revenue, however i answer my calls and come clear right away. What more do I have to do?
Let's start with the do-nothing sergeants, like 3rd watch in 001. We would send her if anyone needs her!
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Let's make it clear that you're obviously not referring to the awesome, super cool blonde one with the initials P.S.
That Sgt's a keeper!
10/05/2010 10:25:00 PM
P.S. is the best... I think they meant the other female sgt on 3rd watch that was protecting the crack dealer recently locked up by narcotics... Stay the fuck away from that one, B.O. is on the enemies side.
so what exactly was the criteria for low performers? are we talking po's that take 10 personals and 4 lunches or are we talking po's who refuse to waste their time doing dumbass shit calls that are worthless at best and try focusing on more important things? sorry scum times reporter or aldercreature dealing with a shooting\robbery\murder\rape is a bit more important than your BS whiney bitch liberal complaints you call in
You youngsters need to chill, no matter what you tell yourselves you too will slow down.
10/05/2010 06:36:00 PM
There is a world of difference between "slow down" and "dog". Police Officer who do their job won't sympathise with the dogs. We all know who they are.
The poster that said the guys that jumped on this were probably dogs really hit the nail on the head.
Westcide Dog said...
Anonymous said...
i personally love the idea. F*ck all these dogs. I have guys on our watch that don't do a damn thing. Every time they get any job at all, even a parker, it takes them minimun 30 mins. We end up handling all of their jobs on their beat. It blows. Not to mention every time they get called they mysteriously need a personal. F them. Send them to the ghetto. They're useless.
10/05/2010 12:23:00 AM
Tell that to Cozzi. He was a working police and made one mistake. That had a huge impact for all working officers on the street. Federal prison is nothing to laugh at. Let the young hair gel handle everything. Let the west side DOG handle the calls and make arrests. Gosh, you might be rewarded with more work. Thank you from a fellow dog.
When you take only officers that you feel are "underperforming" which is scored by an un-official rating system, and is generally opinion based and can be abused by supervisors, and send them off for 90 day details - the city will get sued, class action style. It will be looked at as harrassment, not some form of discipline. There should be a rating system for supervisors, done by blueshirts.
Personally I don't think EB's plan will come to pass. The madness the city allows in the name of clout is just insane
I talked to the union, they are powerless; the dept can detail ANYONE for 90 days, regardless of seniority, so dogasses beware..
We double dog dare him>
The exempts running this department spent 7 years and millions of dollars creating their idea of the perfect evaluation system. The system is now in place and provides for supervisors to articulate an officer's performance as it applies to his/her specific assignment. If an officer's evaluation is poor, there are consequences, as dictated by the department.
Why isn't the evaluation system being allowed to run its course per the issued department order?
If Jfled approves EB's inane personal agenda, will there be a formal addendum issued to rescind the current department order? If not, wouldn't that mean Jfled and EB are in violation of department rules and regulations? (amongst other things)
Furthermore, this confirms why Jfled is in love with EB. Jfled has no knowledge of the department and union rules and labor laws, and nor does he care. And neither does EB. Arrogance + stupidity.
Anonymous said...
I am a supervisor in a Northside Dist and when good workers and very good people are categorized in this manner and a pyschopatic Sex-Offender made to stay in a C.T.A stop with an orange vest on isn't , that is a problem.Someone needs to stand up for these guys they are getting railroaded and the city CAN detail them ANYWHERE for 90 days.
10/05/2010 10:37:00 AM
Huh? Meritcloutorious much? You write in riddles. And, introduce yourself to a dictionary, please!Plus, why do you find it necessary to identify yourself as a stupidvisor? In this forum, identifying yourself as such does not make your words, claims and observations more trustworthy than any other writer.
All 1st watch sgts in 12 (with the exception of the f/2 Sgt) are lazy dogs themselves. All they do is sleep and are not there for the troops. The f/2 rolls all night and helps everyway she can. Works as a team with the PO's and is always available no matter what the problem. Other than the female sgt, I would hate for the dogs to evaluate me. Detail them out first.
Gosh, what a morale-boosting idea.
What you fail to realize is that the department can give you "training" whenever they want. So if the department wants to do 90 day training details in busy districts, they can send whoever they want. It does not violate the contract!
- A Lt Who Knows
Anonymous said...
What you fail to realize is that the department can give you "training" whenever they want. So if the department wants to do 90 day training details in busy districts, they can send whoever they want. It does not violate the contract!
- A Lt Who Knows
10/06/2010 01:02:00 PM
What I fully realize is that with less than 2 years left I can go on the medical in 90 day "recuperation" segments whenever I want and that doesn't violate the contract either.
"training" --> 90 day medical
"training" --> 90 day IOD,
repeat as necessary
- A PO Who Knows
Anonymous said...
I talked to the union, they are powerless; the dept can detail ANYONE for 90 days, regardless of seniority, so dogasses beware..
10/06/2010 08:48:00 AM
If the department has a problem with personnel who do not perform up to standards (what fucking standards?) than it is a failure of management, not of the officer.
Example: General George S Patton relieved the commander of a Corps of US Army in North Africa after a humiliating defeat in the opening months of combat with Germany in WWII.
The relieved command staff blamed the troops and called them poor soldiers. Patton knew this was bullshit, they were just poorly led and Patton set out to fix that.
Patton quickly introduced strict uniform standards and discipline in his troops and restored a sense of discipline and unit pride. Thereafter his units performed magnificently. Patton maintained strict discipline and military order.
EB and weis want to blame the blue shirt officers for the total failings of the supervisory ranks in this department. eb's solution: punish on a wholesale basis those who he deems are not performing up to some imaginary and as yet unknown and undocumented level.
Clout and political corruption have done their dirty work, the department has been corrupted and those "dogasses" you hard chargers talk about with scorn are merely suffering from years of working under a totally corrupt system with failed supervisors.
eb's approach is absolutely backwards, he should be looking at units or districts he deems are not performing and he should start handing out discipline to the sgts, lts and captains who have failed the officers under their command.
The fault lies further up the chain, not with the older or so-called dogass blue shirts the young'uns here like to heap scorn upon.
Good supervision would not let the situation get out of hand to the point where the only solution appears to be detailing officers out en masse to fast districts as a way of "showing" them or as de facto punishment.
If this hair brained scheme is carried out look for massive revolt by an already unhappy and poorly supervised workforce.
Then what?
Again, what will happen when the worst performers fall within a certain ethnic group? Oops, and a quick back pedal, aka Morale survey. It would be like actually releasing the statistical make up medical abusers, would look really really bad for some. That is why the department refused to release that information when the media asked for it. Not that they would have done anything with it, it would not have been politically correct.
Yes, this is a joke. Made up by a useless, lying, dirty, POS. But the bottom line is that there are a lot of lazy dogass coppers out there. And they feel that are entitled to what were deemed perks for hard work without doing any work. We are severely understaffed, but if we could get the dogs to do 25% of what they are supposed to do things would be alot better.
And who is looking at the "least productive officers" in specialized units or desk assignments at headquarters?
What about the "non productive supervisors"? Who's watching them? Let the blue shirts rate all the white shirts - that will speak volumes.
And why don't they back off patrol officers? They are getting beat up all the time.
Word at 35 street is EB staff is hoping Rahm is the winner. Hum! Interesting! Whats the connection?
Anonymous said...
Ernie Brown , it's about time .
A boss that will deal with the dogs on CPD
Maybe these dogs will appreciate their cushy districts and units after a detail to Englewood , Austin or Gresham
Go for it Ernie the working Police Officers are on your side
10/05/2010 02:15:00 PM
What about the medical abusers given nice spots by our exempts.
"...Morale survey."
Morale survey? Never heard of it.
Did we do one of those? How come we never heard the results?
It's all legit, right?
THE FOP IS NOT POWERLESS. Years ago Maurer and Peterson moved FOP members from the airport back to districts for medical usage. Granted the City actually assigned the employees, but the actions by the City were deamed covert discipline.
The FOP argument could be a comprable situation exists. The actions taken against what the CPD considers non-produtive employees would be disciplinary. Also, the issue exists as to what the CPD considers a productive employee? This is a very complicated question as different employee roles garner different responses. For example, a qaundary exists as to how does the CPD measure employee productivty of "inside" pers. vs. officers working a beat car. If EB details what the CPD deams as low performing workers to "busier" districts, it could open a pandora's box.
In the sirport griv. the arbitrator ruled against the City stating the City's actions were disciplinary. The officers were given settlements to resolve the griv. Just a thought.
Anonymous said...
Yes, this is a joke. Made up by a useless, lying, dirty, POS. But the bottom line is that there are a lot of lazy dogass coppers out there. And they feel that are entitled to what were deemed perks for hard work without doing any work. We are severely understaffed, but if we could get the dogs to do 25% of what they are supposed to do things would be a lot better.
10/06/2010 06:13:00 PM
Here is a news flash, in any large organization you can bet money that the top 20% of the workforce does 80% of the work.
There are always the bottom 20% in any large group or employees. The CPD is not immune.
What ever happened to peer pressure? Why does the task always fall to someone else to induce the so-called "dog asses" to pick up the slack?
Why no confrontations in the locker room or roll call room? Why doesn't the group of working officers on that watch let the slow pokes how they feel, regularly? Why the silence about it to the non-performers? Except, of course, anonymously on the SCC blog?
What I fully realize is that with less than 2 years left I can go on the medical in 90 day "recuperation" segments whenever I want and that doesn't violate the contract either.
"training" --> 90 day medical
"training" --> 90 day IOD,
repeat as necessary
- A PO Who Knows
10/06/2010 04:23:00 PM
You are not a P.O. Who Knows. You are:
- A Welfare Recipient Who Got On The Job
...and you have plenty of company.
Time for a "Wiki-Leak"! Somebody, PLEASE, over @ 35th's "Human Resources"- do us a solid and "FREE some INFO" re: our "hybridizing" serial sexual harasser Ernest T. Brown. --To paraphrase Jody: "TAKE HIM OUT!" --Brett Goldstein, this is your wake-up call!! You're the next leaker on "Boss, U Ain't Rite!" ;=) As Newcleus once sang: "Ohh, WIKI-WIKI-WIKI-WIKI-WIKI(shuddup!!)Ahh, WIKI-WIKI-WIKI-...
All 1st watch sgts in 12 (with the exception of the f/2 Sgt) are lazy dogs themselves. All they do is sleep and are not there for the troops. The f/2 rolls all night and helps everyway she can. Works as a team with the PO's and is always available no matter what the problem. Other than the female sgt, I would hate for the dogs to evaluate me. Detail them out first.
When she is not spending the whole night sitting in the W/C office gossiping about the people she investigated when she was in IAD.
Sgt MAB - 012 on the 1st Watch
Why are you commenitng about yourself
all the sgts are good on midnights. Your always trashing the officers, sgts and captain when their not around. How can you say you roll allnight when you sit in a office playing video games all night long with Lt. I. Everyone knows you miss Lt. I and want to go to days to hang with your friend, but don't trash talk to get there.
As the saying goes 'dont let the door hit you in the ass' as you go to days.
This is the same f-2 midnight sergeant in 012 who was screaming and whining in the w/c office last week after being told no one can her when she can use her furlough days and if they think she is coming back to work after Christmas they can find her in michigan or wisconsin - she could be heard whining in the radio room and outside in the hallway.
Something about limits on 13 period furloughs.
We were laughing our nuts off listening to her whining
Bottom line ,everybody is tired of hearing so called guys that did there time ,bidding to say 016 and just answering jobs. Go catch a burglar,unfortunately we have to live is the city and wait 20 miniutes for the old timer to arrive to a burg in prog,while jo is on the train already. That song is outplayed.If you cant hang ,RETIRE. $6000.00 a year in taxes id like to see the police once in a while. EB sees this and im glad hes doing something. 016 need a complete overhaul. id like to see a whole watch ,like 3rd watch 016 go to 011 and send the 3rd watch 011 to 016 ,bosses included. brass would say holy shit ,arrests are up 1000 % But anov s are down.Face it a monkey can do what 016th district coppers do now. Oh I forgot ,they used to work.I bet about 5-7% used to work ,the rest r just lazy dogs ,here for a check and to be able to carry a gun and badge.
Sorry 016th district hater but 016 leads the city in crime reduction. If you feel you are superior as a PO and need to show the rest of us how it's done, then the answer is simple, all you need to do is bid to 016! You know what you'd find, 016 is just like any other district only much bigger. There's good, there's bad, there are some you want to work with and some you can't stand. So stop (if it's possible for you to overcome your deep resentments} with the misplaced anger and have some respect for all of your brother and sister officers. Hating on your own kind is a symptom, look inward please.
why are people pissed at "dogs" they have no back up and the city tries to fire you at every turn and you want them to do more work...idiots...thats why the city wins. these idiots keep working hard for the city that will fire them in a second
i love hearing these "hard working" cops crying about going to call back. or getting time....learn idiots..the city hates you.take thier money and enjoy. if you get fired your fault.
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