Tuesday, November 09, 2010

Well, Would You Look At That?

J-Fled taking credit for one of the simplest of ideas that EVERY SINGLE COP has been advocating for as long as we can remember. Hell, we've been advocating it for over 5-and-a-half years here. It even came up at J-Fled's "town hall" meetings where they looked for malcontents to dump:
  • Chicago's year-old strategy of going to trial with lawsuits against police officers instead of settling cases is paying off, city officials say.

    Last fall, police Supt. Jody Weis notified Chief U.S. Judge James F. Holderman of the change in legal strategy.

  • A year later, the results are "astonishing," according to a report the Law Department prepared for this year's City Council budget hearings. Lawsuits filed against cops -- and settlements of lawsuits -- have both fallen dramatically, the report said.
If you pay people for bad behavior, you will get more of it. Witness welfare fraud, years of "unemployment" handouts, LINK, and Social Security for generations of layabouts who have been on the dole for years, . Why do you think entire families of grifters moved to Wisconsin from all over the midwest in the 1980's? If you reduce the incentives for misbehavior, you get less of it. Gingrich proved this during the Clinton years.

So don't listen to the plaintiff lawyers in the article who denigrate the system of fighting suits. They're plaintiffs' lawyers for a reason.

And someone tell J-Fled to stop taking credit for something simple street cops have been saying since 5 superintendents ago.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the City really wants to see the number of these lawsuits drop greatly then they should demand that Fitzgerald and Alvarez indict some of these trial lawyers for encouraging perjury from their clients.

We all are aware that many of these lawsuits are based on lies and that the trial lawyers are aware of it but until they learn that there are consequences to their actions they will continue doing same in the their desire to make money.

11/09/2010 08:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You might want to ask Alvin Weems how that strategy worked out for him...

11/09/2010 08:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take away the cheese and the rats will go elsewhere.

11/09/2010 08:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I read this story in today's Scum-Times, I almost barfed into my breakfast bowl. What a bunch of bullshit J-Fled and Frank Main are trying to sell to the public about these lawsuits. Cops have been saying for years that the City should have been fighting most of this bullshit, but the City's law office wouldn't.
Now that they're taking the leeches on, they see that it's not that difficult to pull one off your skin and throw it away! Shame on Weis and Main for completely distorting the truth about this. But we all know the true purpose of all of this frenzied press with Weis....trying to paint a picture of himself as a man who came in here on a mission and succeeded as his sorry ass begins to dust off the resume (hopefully) in search of a job far away from here.
And we all know that NOTHING could be further from the truth! Although the rumor is he'll now stay on until May, I can't wait to say three words from my lips that will sum up Weis's unholy tenure here: "GOOD BYE, STUPID!"

11/09/2010 08:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think it's premature for Weis to be declaring this as a victory due to the success of his policy. There are any number of other factors that could have played a role that were not explored in this typically sloppy piece of "journalism."

Has there been a corresponding drop in the number of arrests made? In the number of police-citizen interactions?

Could IPRA just as easily declare this a success of their policies -- that they've aggressively targeted misconduct and gotten problem officers off the street? Could IAD not reasonably make similar claims?

Could it be that this isn't the successful result of a policy implemented, but rather a fortuitous symptom of a dangerous lack of manpower on the streets?

Or, heaven forbid, that members of the Chicago Police Department are simply doing an exceptional job of serving and protecting in a professional manner?

I'm not advocating or dismissing any of the above possibilities. I am merely pointing out that it is astounding that the Superintendent can declare, without further examination or explanation, that a policy that has been in effect for exactly one year is a rousing success. Talk about a small sample size. What's more astounding, however, is that the Sun-Times unquestioningly repeats this drivel as gospel truth. If Weis gets his contract renewed, he owes Frank Main a nice bonus. He's been a dogged and reliable PR hack throughout Weis's tenure, especially during his recent contract renewal media blitz.

11/09/2010 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SHOCKING !

11/09/2010 09:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have news for you. I am a lawyer (business only, no suing cops) with a relative in the Law Department. EVERYONE has thought for YEARS that paying off the plaintiffs in these cases was stupid.

The bad behavior isn't really by the plaintiffs. They were assholes when you first dealt with them (and allegedly battered them), and they're assholes now. What this did was ruin the economics for the LAWYERS taking these cases. The assholes are still whining, but now the lawyers have to actually decide if there is a chance of winning enough money to justify a trial and the risk of losing.

11/09/2010 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What needs to be addressed is the ability of these bottom feeding lawyers to charge the city $135k for their fees in a $10k lawsuit (per the article, plantiff gets $7k, lawyer collects $135k from the city in attorney fees). I highly doubt that they would be sending the ghetto trash a bill for $135k if they lost the case (nor did they put $135k worth of work into a $10k lawsuit). They need to legislate a cap on this B.S. That might stop some of the parasite lawyers from taking cases that do not have any merit.

11/09/2010 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So whats that mean?

The troops with clout get to have their beefers sued back?

Ask yourselves, when was the last time you heard a fellow patrolamn say a BS beefer of his got sued back by the city for their BS beef?

11/09/2010 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can think of several aldermen and reverends who are upset about this, they have been making boatloads of taxpayer cash by inciting these lawsuits and publicly setting the amount they think the city ( working taxpayers ) should have to pay

11/09/2010 09:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm really sick of the FOP blogging all day. Get back to work boys.

11/09/2010 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's funny how you can sue the city and they'll bend over backwards to settle but don't be late on your water bill or a red light camera, then your fucked.

11/09/2010 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Police officers and firefighters deserve good pensions. Police officers contribute 9.91 percent of their pay to the pension system and firefighters pay in 8.455 percent. They don't get Social Security, and the physical demands of their jobs mean they can't work as long as people in white-collar professions.

OT Why do we pay in at a rate of 9.91% and the CFD at 8.455% We get the same pension and the formula is the same so why the extra 1 1/2% On a $70,000 salary thats $1,000 a year that the CPD pays more than the CFD Whats the FOP doing about this?

11/09/2010 09:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will comment on how this works upon the conclusion of my own lawsuit. That has cast a dark cloud over everything these past two years.

For those who scoff at Federal lawsuits, try one, go through it yourself, then let me know how it went.

11/09/2010 09:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, you have to give him kudos, Cline, or any before him didn't do anything about it.

Now, the roid head has something to hang his big fat hat on!

11/09/2010 09:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its about time they just giving money away. When don't nothing in our district work computers down copyer down, pdts not work , ppl walking all in our lots .

11/09/2010 09:47:00 AM  
Blogger john said...

No Sh*t


old retired guy

11/09/2010 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...

This'll be another feather in J-Fled's cap, and used as testimonial to try to justify an extension on his contract under a new mayor.

Every idea, strategy and success story gleaned from the people who really know what the fuck is actually going on with this department (the working blue shirt grunts) will be passed off by J-Fled as his own.

Whether it be this latest "epiphany", the crackdown on "rogue" coppers, the 4 & 2 work schedule, Tahoes, rifles, the birth of MSF and/or the manipulation of true crime statistics to favor his agenda, J-Fled and company will most certainly claim anything that can even be remotely construed a success as their own.

Break's over! All you sheep please return to generating stats, activity and (most importantly!) revenue to help pad this poseur's resume. And please pay no attention to the fact that this perpetual drilling will be sans reach-around.

Don't forget: Feds are a sneaky bunch of cocksuckers that are not to be trusted. Ever.

11/09/2010 09:49:00 AM  
Anonymous hippy-dippy-1 said...

With all due respect SCC, lighten up. You and the rest of the rank and file can suggest all you want, but Weiss is in a position to do something about it, and in a position to take the hear if it doesn't work. At least in that position he had the gonads to try it. Give him some credit for that. The idea is not the no-brainer that you imply. It has public relations, political and other ramifications. Always give credit where credit is due.

Lecture over.

11/09/2010 09:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When is that 4 popo + 1 sgt meet at 35th st? Is that starting today?

11/09/2010 09:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Somebody got scoop from Street talk series form yesterday? Cucumber sandwiches and tea served?

11/09/2010 09:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I-I-I, Me-Me-Me sounds a lot like a 003rd District Tact Team that was just stripped...taking credit for something they didn't do!

11/09/2010 10:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While I agree with the practice in principle, risking punitive damages with a jury full of retards in federal court is scary to say the least. Even a bullshitt case could go sideways and your stuck. It happened to me and lucky for me, the law firm the city sub contracted was excellent and the plaintiffs lawyer withdrew the lawsuit after being exposed. But ths thought of what could happen had me thinking the city couldn't pay this goof off fast enough for me. Its easy to say litigate when its not your ass on the line

11/09/2010 10:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well well well, Capt TL from 023 messing with a policeman ! This guy in 009 (wagon) as a P.O. , merit Sgt, merit Lt at RND, then Cline made him LT? He thinks he knows "medical abuse"? What about "job abuse"! Merit Hack

11/09/2010 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only reason Capt. TL got IAD involved in TF is because last year when he was on the Tact team, and 2360 was the WC, 2360 refused to do any of Capt. TL's BS ( let's stop all the M/ F' 2 ) for our mission numbers, and tried to get a CR on 2360. 2360 went to roll call and said " go out there and be the police" which led to arrests, siezed vehicles, and NO public violence! Where Capt. TL got an increase in contact cards! Silly

11/09/2010 10:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It has nothing to do with how the city handles lawsuits.

There are less lawsuits because there are less arrests. Period. Particullarly less drug arrests.

Police are no longer looking for the pack in homes. No longer tearing apart a car for the pack. And no longer stopping 50 dudes a night looking for the pack.

Ala, less complaints. Less lawsuits.

And you know what? The Crime rate is virtually unchanged as a result.
Police do not directly control the crime rate. A certain percentage will commit crimes regardless of what the police do. If there are lots of police in one area, the criminal will simply commit his crime in another. Arresting drug dealers is a waste of time. It has absolutely no impact on violent crime.

It is not the job of the police to stop crime. It is the policeman's job to SOLVE crime. And this is where the Chicago Police Department fails. It is also the reason that Chicago's murder rate remains relatively stable, while other major cities see dramatic homicide declines. Chicago has more murders that NY and LA for one reason and one reason alone.

Chicago police do not catch as many murderers.

11/09/2010 10:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will this M-fer ever quit with his BS. WTF!!

11/09/2010 10:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the real point here is missed. I think its safe to say that only a few fools are still sticking their necks out for this department. So if thats the case and the majority of officers are answering calls and not being proactive, wouldnt that mean that beefs would go down?

11/09/2010 10:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So for all these Decades, the CPD and the City has caused excess worry and harassment to many good officers, for their failure to combat this frivilous Lawsuit crap . I smell more sleazy Democrat / Daley Politics. Why was this allowed to occur? How many billions have the Chicago Taxpayers been screwed out of ?

11/09/2010 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the city settles are we personally liable?

11/09/2010 11:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And that ain't all of Loevy and Loevy's problems, who, by the way is representing the thug that got slapped by the 006 District sgt.
Can you explain to me, how a plaintiff whose mother works for IPRA, retains a law firm who regularly sues the city, and the law firm lives off IPAR and IAD files, is not committing a conflict of interest ? Ethics violation ?

11/09/2010 11:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...someone tell J-Fled to stop taking credit for something simple street cops have been saying since 5 superintendents ago..."

All kinds of astonishing things -- Great Leaps Forward -- are happening in Weis' LAST FEW MONTHS IN OFFICE, aren't they?

LAST FEW MONTHS IN OFFICE.

LAST FEW MONTHS IN OFFICE.

LAST FEW MONTHS IN OFFICE.

Wouldn't want to be accused of being vague, of mincing my words...

*

11/09/2010 11:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great news,what happens when the offender is found innocent by the jury and now they award punitive damages. Any officer on the paper could get slammed for thousands of dollars, and your house? The trust its in wont protect it. Its already happened.

11/09/2010 11:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The rumor:J-Fed is out Huberman is in as the new Supt.

11/09/2010 12:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most private industry buisness's have the policy to fight every suit no matter how negligent they might be. This causes lawyers to take ONLY the suits they believe they can win. It works. It's common sense.

11/09/2010 12:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I came on this job a couple dozen years ago, Chicago was referred to as 'the city that works'.

Quickly, I learned about the lawsuits and the letters from lawyers that netted the senders checks. Checks for five thousand dollars 'just to go away'. Checks for ten thousand dollars sent with liability releases.

We learned to refer to Chicago as 'the city that settles'. Not only did it cost the city millions and millions of unwarranted dollars, it also damaged the self-esteem and attacked the integrity of hundreds of police officers named in the suits. We weren't even allowed to stand up for ourselves or defend our names, because the CITY had so ittle respect for us that they just cut a check to anyone who retained an attorney.

Sorry, Jody; this wasn't some feather in YOUR cap. It was decades in coming. And it came for one reason - Mayor Daley realized he had to stem the flow of cash bleeding from the city's depleted coffers. Plain and simple.

STOP TAKING CREDIT FOR THINGS YOU HAVE NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR.

11/09/2010 12:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: a female cook county sheriff's officer accidentally shot her brother today. Occured at 250X N. Spaulding. Around 1:40pm. Hmmm. How does that happen accidentally?

11/09/2010 01:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

symptomatic of con artist. that simple.

11/09/2010 01:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why don't you find out what prevents lawsuits?

What do Watch Commanders, Captains and Lieutenants, especially those in hot districts, that haven't been involved in lawsuits do differently that those who get more lawsuits?

Did those Watch Commanders really read the arrest reports?

Did they ask the officers questions?

See that the elements of the offence were present on the A.R.?

Not approve the arrest when it shouldn't be?

Don't do a C. White interview with prisoners when doing a T.R.R.?

Do they warn their officers at roll calls and other times, “Don’t do this shit ….” And “Watch out for …?” How do you keep morale high?

Lots of things go wrong when you have clout promoted supervisors with no real Patrol experience who get made district W.C.s and really don't know what they are doing.

Stay Safe. Greedy lawyers may still sue, but give them less ammo.

11/09/2010 02:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The first district Captain on Days is terrible when it comes to putting a slip in. He has his eyes on one thing. Moving on up. jag

11/09/2010 02:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I suspect that Lt Anderson's case will be bolstered by this labor law development:

LABOR RELATIONS BOARD (NLRB)BACKS EMPLOYEES RIGHT TO BAD-MOUTH SUPERVISOR ON FACEBOOK

An employer’s blogging and social networking policy that prohibits employees from posting disparaging comments online about coworkers or their employer has been deemed unlawful by the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB).


http://blogs.hrhero.com/hrnews/2010/11/05/nlrb-backs-employees-right-to-bad-mouth-supervisor-on-facebook/

11/09/2010 02:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This won't last. Too many law school grads & too few real jobs for them. A prolonged drought of quick settlement money will mean that many politicians' campaign coffers will dry up as well.
When things settle down, they'll drag out that old excuse, "it costs more to go to trial than to settle and close the case". Heard it first in the early 70's, during my first bogus lawsuit, when a bunch of leeches leisurely fed off our hard earned tax money.

11/09/2010 03:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Well, Would You Look At This?"

About twenty-some years ago, Mayor Harold Washington asked for ideas to improve city services.

I submitted an idea, a small one, didn't cost the city anything but it was a minor benefit to working P.O.s. I won't mention it because it would tip off who I am.

The idea is still in use today.

But back then I got a $100 check from the city, a citation signed by Mayor Harold Washington and P.I.E. pin. P.I.E. stood for Pride in Excellence. All things considered, Harold wasn't too bad a guy considering what we have had to endure since he passed away.

What will the Street Cops get for saying this for all these years.

11/09/2010 03:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jun Lakatuz Barber on Ivring Park Rd passed away Great friend of Chicago Police, Army/Marines and Veterans. Longtime illness.

11/09/2010 03:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

By the time you read this, this site will have surpassed 12 MILLION visits.

Congratulations, SCC!

Fuck J-Fled, the lying coward!

11/09/2010 04:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since when does the Superintendent of Police make ANY decison about settling a case or going to tyrial? The answer is he doesn't. That's the responsibilty of the Corp. Counsel's Office. But you have to give J-Fled credit. He got his name in the paper once again.

11/09/2010 04:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is about time! I am glad to see that the Corporation Counsel is finally fighting these suits. Me and a partner of mine had one a few years back where we were 100% right, which was confirmed by independent witnesses, who stated that to both the Corporation Counsel, OPS, and the FBI (yes, there was a Federal Civil Rights beef). The FBI and OPS cleared us, but the city settled the suit for $15,000 Makes you wonder if there hasn't been some complicity between the Corporation Counsel's office and some of these bottom feeding attorneys.

11/09/2010 04:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Thank You Andrew Hale and Co. said...

The REAL reason for all of this is NOT Jody Weis, it's because of the work of Andrew Hale and Associates. In case you do not know, this is a small law firm that has offices across the street from the federal building and another one in Park Ridge. At least one of the founders of this firm came from the Corp Counsel's office where he witnessed all the nonsense that goes on there win it comes to these BS lawsuits. They specialize in handling excessive force, false arrest cases etc., etc. It is their belief that those cases in which the city routinely settles on could have been won had the Corp Counsel's office been a little more diligent. They have an impressive track record and are without a doubt on our side. They will not recommend to settle unless the case is so bad, the evidence is so overwhelming that the officers conduct was wrong. In several cases they were prepared to go to trial when the plaintiff's lawyer decided to withdraw the case at the last minute. In my case I was accused with false arrest. It was all BS. I was the victim of a crime and arrested the offender whom later sued me and the other A/O's for false arrest saying that I was the offender. I went down to Andrew Hales offices and conferred with their attorney's. Keep in mind that I was being sued for millions. The plaintiff's attorney was adamant that there would be no settlement, that they wanted a trial because they had a good case with witnesses. One day I get a phone call from the attorney at Andrew Hales who tells me that I do not have to come down for another meeting as they had uncovered a witness who validated my story. The plaintiff's attorney when told of the existence of this witness then withdrew the case. There have been several other similar cases but I won't bore you with all of them. The bottom line is that all of this is not the doing of Jody Weis. It is the doing of the Corp Counsel's office who decided that they should farm some of these cases out to stop all these settlements and Andrew Hale and Associates for being real lawyers and doing what should have been done years ago. They have a website, check them out for yourself. I can't begin to tell you how appreciative I am to them. Believe me, it's nice to walk into an attorney's office and find out that they not only believe in you but that they are going to do everything they can to see you vindicated, to see that they know that these lawsuits are BS.


www.wrongfulconvictionlawsuitdefense.com

11/09/2010 04:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Arresting drug dealers is a waste of time. It has absolutely no impact on violent crime.

Yeah ok! Get your fat ass on a treadmill and dont be afraid to get in a foot pursuit. No impact? Except for the fact that a great number of shootings are over control of the TIP and who gets to sell there. Idiot.

11/09/2010 05:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10 hour days gone for everyone dept wide. Not even units! Thanks FOP

11/09/2010 05:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Corp counsel is not fighting these cases. They are being farmed out to private law firms, that is why the suits are going down. The attorneys at Corp Counsel are like everything else in this city, a bunch of connected people who have no real ability to do what they were hired to do. We need a top down house cleaning in this city, no more nepotism, no more patronage, no more race norming. Best people for the job. Period. I know, I know, I'm high. But I can dream can't I.

11/09/2010 05:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just remeber this. Every suit settled is one less that a officer might have to pay out of his pocket. So we will see how this works when officers are paying out of their own pockets because the city could've settled but didn't.

11/09/2010 06:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Police officers and firefighters deserve good pensions. Police officers contribute 9.91 percent of their pay to the pension system and firefighters pay in 8.455 percent. They don't get Social Security, and the physical demands of their jobs mean they can't work as long as people in white-collar professions.

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That is complete bullshit. Let's suppose that we all made 100k every year. Even if we all contributed 10% and worked 30 years we would only contribute 300k to our pension. Assuming we live another 30 years, which is not at all unusual given our early retirement age, the total payout over 30 years at 75% of our 100 k salary is $2.3 million.

We are making almost 10 times our original pension investment. Now, no investment strategy could ever hope to multiply your original investment by 10 times over 30 years. So, our retirement is coming on the backs of the taxpayers. There is no longer enough tax money to cover these pensions.

Republicans are putting an end to this party by 2014. If you do not have 20 years in by 2014, you are going to lose benefits. So, you had better be stocking up on your deferred comp, or it will be a very short retirement.

11/09/2010 06:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

If the city settles are we personally liable?

11/09/2010 11:19:00 AM


You are only liable for punitive damages and the City cannot sign your rights away and force you to pay punitive. The City has settled some cases and paid punitive for the officers in a round about sort of way so as to skirt the law. (what, Chicago? say it ain't so!)

Some officers have gotten shaken up and demanded the City settle and they willingly pay $1000 or so out of their funds for punitive rather than take a risk on a jury from Cook County.

11/09/2010 06:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT Why do we pay in at a rate of 9.91% and the CFD at 8.455% We get the same pension and the formula is the same so why the extra 1 1/2% On a $70,000 salary thats $1,000 a year that the CPD pays more than the CFD Whats the FOP doing about this?

11/09/2010 09:29:00 AM


Hey Idiot, thats about to go UP.

We are better funded than the Fire Dept.
Quit trying to comparing us to them

11/09/2010 06:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder if they went back and looked at all the cases that WERE settled, if some cops could get their jobs (or at least pensions) back...

11/09/2010 06:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

less cops + less motivated police = less lawsuits, thats all.

11/09/2010 07:27:00 PM  
Blogger Anonymous said...

Nothing ever suprises me of J-Fled shadiness. And the horrible people he has brought up in commands that they didn't deserve. He sucks all the way around and clueless.

11/09/2010 08:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

You might want to ask Alvin Weems how that strategy worked out for him...

11/09/2010 08:39:00 AM

Alvin Weems should be in the joint. Cline covered up the reckless homicide he committed because of his Reverend connections.

They all ended up getting caught up in that mess too.

11/09/2010 08:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since the FOP have so much time on their hands blogging and all, why don't they research the history of section 1983 of the U.S. Code. If they were to do so they would discover that it was enacted as a tool for the Government to go after non-compliant States during the Civil Rights movement and not after agents of state government (which we are). How about a movement toward reform of this overbroad law FOP??

11/09/2010 08:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
And that ain't all of Loevy and Loevy's problems, who, by the way is representing the thug that got slapped by the 006 District sgt.
Can you explain to me, how a plaintiff whose mother works for IPRA, retains a law firm who regularly sues the city, and the law firm lives off IPAR and IAD files, is not committing a conflict of interest ? Ethics violation ?

11/09/2010 11:24:00 AM

HUGE conflict of interest! How much money will her son give her?

11/09/2010 08:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11/09/2010 02:38:00 PM

"I suspect that Lt Anderson's case will be bolstered by this labor law development ... "


Don't you mean Lt. John Andrews?

11/09/2010 08:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The only reason Capt. TL got IAD involved in TF is because last year when he was on the Tact team, and 2360 was the WC, 2360 refused to do any of Capt. TL's BS ( let's stop all the M/ F' 2 ) for our mission numbers, and tried to get a CR on 2360. 2360 went to roll call and said " go out there and be the police" which led to arrests, siezed vehicles, and NO public violence! Where Capt. TL got an increase in contact cards! Silly

11/09/2010 10:20:00 AM

That has to be the dumbest story ever told. TL and the Tact LT are not friends, but I'm sure it has nothing to do with catching an IOD scamer. Some day TL will be commander and the tact LT will be history.

11/09/2010 09:00:00 PM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

04:17:00 PM

"...Complicity between the Corporation Counsel's office and some of these bottom feeding attorneys..."

AH-HAH!

Someone has pointed out the huge turd in the punch bowl!

Perhaps a little quid pro quo?

Perhaps a little "vigorish" making it's way through corp council en route to the sweaty fat guy on five?

Will the door get kicked off the hinges and the covers peeled back at gun point to reveal who's in bed with whom?

Corporation Counsel doing the nasty with the likes of Flint Taylor & the Loevys while crime king shorty nods his approval?

Nobody of note to give a fuck as long as it's only Coppers getting hurt by this bullshit?

No wonder these fools devote so much energy to keeping this shit out of the light!

Police Officers have been injured and aggrieved to such a point by the Department and City that financial recovery and compensation alone could total in the billions of dollars.

It would also be validation the the Police were not the bad guys they were made out to be by the Daley Inc. media control/spin/propaganda & public brainwashing apparatus.

The whole of Daley Inc. would rather commit mass seppuko than acknowledge this.

In the meantime...

We hope to see the day when all involved parties face REAL justice for their crimes.

Our joy would be seeing these dirty dogs climb 13 steps to the top of the scaffold crying mercy and pity when they had none for the coppers they unjustly ruined
for the sake of political expediency.

Viva Hate...

Policemen don't have the luxury of letting bygones be bygones or forgiving and forgetting the likes of this massive orchestration of fraud and fuckery...

We should not be the ones being hunted and hounded in OUR HOME TOWN by people who have nowhere near the sacrifices of blood, sweat, tears and time that we paid.

We should be chasing and hunting them as they run and cry seeking refuge from us.

11/09/2010 09:12:00 PM  
Anonymous hippy-dippy-1 said...

Anonymous Said:
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It is not the job of the police to stop crime. It is the policeman's job to SOLVE crime. And this is where the Chicago Police Department fails. It is also the reason that Chicago's murder rate remains relatively stable, while other major cities see dramatic homicide declines. Chicago has more murders that NY and LA for one reason and one reason alone.
/.../
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You may want to read the goals of the Department again. It is in the introduction to the Rules and Regulations.

11/09/2010 10:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You might want to ask Alvin Weems how that strategy worked out for him...


Hes a moron that got promoted?

11/09/2010 10:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All districts will be going to the 4/2 work schedule beginning 2011.

11/09/2010 11:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Street talk series cancelled today. They got enough ideas from the first day and no reason to continue???

11/09/2010 11:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who stated that to both the Corporation Counsel, OPS, and the FBI (yes, there was a Federal Civil Rights beef). The FBI and OPS cleared us,


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the fbi has nothing to do with civil cases. if it is a criminal civil rights violation then the fbi gets involved... your lying, the fbi did not get involved in your lawsuit. as someone who has worked in federal court for 20 years you couldnt be anymore wrong. dont make things up

11/09/2010 11:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course this is hardly making a splash in the media.

From Chicagobreakingnews.com:

The campaign to re-elect Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. has given wife Sandi Jackson's company at least $315,000 for her work. Rep. Bobby Rush's campaign has paid his wife, Carolyn Rush, more than $240,000 to serve as a consultant.

Two other Chicago-area congressmen, Danny Davis and Luis Gutierrez, have given their wives smaller amounts for doing campaign work. The four lawmakers, all Democrats, were re-elected last week.

11/09/2010 11:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are making almost 10 times our original pension investment. Now, no investment strategy could ever hope to multiply your original investment by 10 times over 30 years. So, our retirement is coming on the backs of the taxpayers. There is no longer enough tax money to cover these pensions.
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Hmmm, my investment strategy (on plain old over the counter stocks, brought me 75% return on my investments last year and nearly 40% this year (bad summer for the market). Of course, I pay really close attention to my small portfolio, I have no kickbacks or bribes to pay and I pull my profits out and bank them or invest them in something tangible.

11/10/2010 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What do Watch Commanders, Captains and Lieutenants, especially those in hot districts, that haven't been involved in lawsuits do differently that those who get more lawsuits?

Did those Watch Commanders really read the arrest reports?

Did they ask the officers questions?

See that the elements of the offense were present on the A.R.?

Not approve the arrest when it shouldn't be?
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The new breed thinks those kinds of watch commanders are jagoffs.

11/10/2010 01:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Citizen Mayor John Hu said...

OT Why do we pay in at a rate of 9.91% and the CFD at 8.455% We get the same pension and the formula is the same so why the extra 1 1/2% On a $70,000 salary thats $1,000 a year that the CPD pays more than the CFD Whats the FOP doing about this?

11/09/2010 09:29:00 AM


Hey Idiot, thats about to go UP.

We are better funded than the Fire Dept.
Quit trying to comparing us to them

11/09/2010 06:36:00 PM


Regarding the pension contributions
the most recent Employee Contribution as % of Pay for CFD was 9.1250% and for CPD 9.0000%
and CFD was underfunded by $2.425 billion and CPD by $5.575 billion. If there is no change in the current contributions or benefits, CFD will run out of funds by 2019 and CPD by 2022.

You can see by these stats the severity of the pension problems for CPD and CFD with the City of Chicago. When you add the Laborers and Municipal Employees the UNDERFUNDED amount totals $14.57 billion.

We need to make sure at least the pensions of CURRENT members will be secured!

As Mayor, I plan to implement a new 2-tier retirement system for employees of Chicago. All NEW employees for the City of Chicago who start after Jan 2012 will be on the new system (all 4 groups). I will also inject a one-time partial payment towards the total underfunded liability by a city bond offering. Rates are incredibly low with our current rating and shoring up some of the deficit now will be much cheaper than years later.

I want to ensure the hard work and contributions of our City employees don't go wasted!

Let's fix Chicago!
Citizen Mayor John Hu

11/10/2010 02:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Alvin Weems should be in the joint. Cline covered up the reckless homicide he committed because of his Reverend connections."
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True, but beside the point.

Chicago would settle a case where plaintiff claimed the PO turned him into a newt, but goes to the mat on a case with 10x the video evidence of Abbate and Jefferson Tap COMBINED... and of course loses its (and Weems') ass in a judgment.

It's just one more piece of evidence on a mile high stack of evidence that the city is run by utter incompetents and has has been since little DICK became "Dear Leader".

11/10/2010 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Give him some credit. Police HAVE been saying it for years however HE actually got it done. Bravo.

11/10/2010 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
What do Watch Commanders, Captains and Lieutenants, especially those in hot districts, that haven't been involved in lawsuits do differently that those who get more lawsuits?

Did those Watch Commanders really read the arrest reports?

Did they ask the officers questions?

See that the elements of the offense were present on the A.R.?

Not approve the arrest when it shouldn't be?
-------
The new breed thinks those kinds of watch commanders are jagoffs.
11/10/2010 01:18:00 AM
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Oh boy, is that ever the truth. What some of these now breed and, unfortunately some Watch Commanders, do not realize is that the main job of the W/C is to protect the city and at the same time protect the officer. Most of you would be amazed at the Arrest Reports that do not even hint at probably cause and the number that on their face constitute false arrest. A great number also actually allege no violation of any law. Please remember that these reports are also signed by the arresting officer under oath.

11/10/2010 10:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: a female cook county sheriff's officer accidentally shot her brother today. Occured at 250X N. Spaulding. Around 1:40pm. Hmmm. How does that happen accidentally?

11/09/2010 01:48:00 PM

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By accident.... bad training, carelessness,bad gun awareness. etc. it is possible. not everything is always a conspiracy. just saying...p.s i know nothing of this incident.

11/10/2010 12:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 11/09/2010 11:50:00P.M.
From 11/09/2010 04:17:00P.M.
You are free to think what you want, and I respect the fact that you have worked 20 years in Federal Court, but I have been the police for a little bit longer. I am not lying nor making things up. Our bad guy, who was a three time looser, and his lawyer filed a Criminal Civil Rights violation against me and my partner. Hence the involvement of the FBI. Perhaps I did not make that clear in my first post, but I thought that people on this site would be smart enough to pick that up when I said that the FBI was involved. Guess I was wrong. I am not going to get into specifics seeing that I am still on the job, but I still remember the name of the FBI Special Agent who did the investigation and still have the letter from the head of the Civil Rights Division of the Dept. of Justice that said the the FBI had no interest in prosecuting me at this time. To this day I can't understand why the Corporation Counsel choose to pay the Asshat involved when they had three independent witnesses who cooberated our story. Was the fix in? I don't know.

11/10/2010 01:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The main reason that the City has been settling these B.S. lawsuits is that the plantiffs lawyer is either a relative of and alderman and/or makes huge donations. I seem to recall a lawsuit some years ago in which the officers were accused of sodomizing the plantiff with a plunger. I believe the city went to settle even though the Plantiff's own doctor could find no evidence of rectal trauma. I'm not sure if this is the same instance where the city council was about to vote "no" on a payout until the lawyer approached one of our esteemed aldermen. After a short conversation, this alderman got the payoff passed because "it would only pay the attorney's fees, not go to the plantiff." Why should we pay for the attorney's fees when they bring bogus lawsuits just to get a payday.
Andcorrect me if I am wrong, but the only lawsuits that need city council approval, and thus may gain notice, are over $100k. Allows for alot of potential graft by middle management.

11/10/2010 02:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: a female cook county sheriff's officer accidentally shot her brother today. Occured at 250X N. Spaulding. Around 1:40pm. Hmmm. How does that happen accidentally?

11/09/2010 01:48:00 PM

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By accident.... bad training, carelessness,bad gun awareness. etc. it is possible. not everything is always a conspiracy. just saying...p.s i know nothing of this incident.

11/10/2010 12:20:00 PM
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I do know and 12:20 is spot on.

11/10/2010 03:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The post at 11/10/2010 10:15:00 AM
Should read "probable cause," not probably. Just a typo, sorry.

11/10/2010 03:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is not the job of the police to stop crime. It is the policeman's job to SOLVE crime. And this is where the Chicago Police Department fails. It is also the reason that Chicago's murder rate remains relatively stable, while other major cities see dramatic homicide declines. Chicago has more murders that NY and LA for one reason and one reason alone.

Chicago police do not catch as many murderers

Hey asshat, the police s job is to stop crime while a dick s job is to solve it. If ur a cop quit now before u get someone hurt.if ur not then u must be a liberal from rogers pk,evanston who believes that we just stop 4 sh!theads driving around at 3 in the morning for the hell of it. U think their coming from church... not

11/10/2010 04:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>> Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
What do Watch Commanders, Captains and Lieutenants, especially those in hot districts, that haven't been involved in lawsuits do differently that those who get more lawsuits?

Did those Watch Commanders really read the arrest reports?

Did they ask the officers questions?

See that the elements of the offense were present on the A.R.?

Not approve the arrest when it shouldn't be?
-------
The new breed thinks those kinds of watch commanders are jagoffs.
11/10/2010 01:18:00 AM
___________________________________

Oh boy, is that ever the truth. What some of these now breed and, unfortunately some Watch Commanders, do not realize is that the main job of the W/C is to protect the city and at the same time protect the officer. Most of you would be amazed at the Arrest Reports that do not even hint at probably cause and the number that on their face constitute false arrest. A great number also actually allege no violation of any law. Please remember that these reports are also signed by the arresting officer under oath.

11/10/2010 10:15:00 AM<<<

AND! The braintrust running the show, who has never been the police, wants to double the work and stress load on the WCs by making Zone Captains.

Try flying that on a hot night on Zone 10, 10th and 11th Districts.

We need to get the new administration, whoever that might be informed on what the hell is going on and try to get them to commit undoing the Weis/Daley damage.

11/10/2010 05:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Hes a moron that got promoted?"
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Indeed.

No doubt the plaintiffs are enjoying his additional salary.

11/10/2010 06:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When no one gets locked guess what.

11/10/2010 08:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Give him some credit. Police HAVE been saying it for years however HE actually got it done. Bravo.

11/10/2010 09:11:00 AM

Or is it a cost-saving move by the cash-strapped City

11/10/2010 09:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To make a correction, the shit head said the officers took a "NIGHT STICK" and shoved in into his rectom (he actaully said rectom).I was there and knew it was a lie. The two officers he accused where two of the most level headed P.O.'s you would ever meet.The accuser never told the truth he and the rev. where lover's who had a domestic where the accuser got mad at the rev. and broke the plate glass window of the church,which was witenessed by the rev., who then called the police to the scene and upon arriving the rev. signed complaint for crim. dam.Then later when the shit head filed the totally false beef about his already ruined rectom the rev. said the officer's forced him to sign the complaint (sign or go o jail).

11/11/2010 10:45:00 AM  

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