Anti-Gun Crowd Drooling
- Mayor Richard Daley expressed sadness and outrage in the wake of the Arizona shooting rampage, and said the incident is yet more evidence that stronger gun control is needed.
[...]"It isn't what your beliefs are, it's basically access to guns . . . we have a killing machine going on because of guns," he said.
One of the fiercest gun-control advocates in Congress, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.), pounced on the shooting massacre in Tucson Sunday, promising to introduce legislation as soon as Monday targeting the high-capacity ammunition the gunman used.
- Another vocal supporter for gun control, Illinois Rep. Mike Quigley, told POLITICO that he hopes “something good” can come from the Arizona tragedy – perhaps discussion on a new assault weapon ban, sales at gun shows and tracing measures.
- In 2008 President George W. Bush signed a law expanding the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, which registered gun dealers use, to include more comprehensive reporting of mental health records. Under the current law, it is illegal for anyone who has been “adjudicated as a mental defective or committed to a mental institution” to purchase a firearm, according to the FBI’s website.
However, Loughner did not fall into either of those categories, according to Josh Horwitz, executive director of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.
- Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system. It was also suggested that further pressing of charges would be unnecessary and probably cause more problems than it solved as Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County...
Every victim of his threats previously must also be wondering if this tragedy could have been prevented if they had been more aggressive in pursuing charges against Mr. Loughner. Perhaps with a felony conviction he would never have been able to lawfully by the Glock 9mm Model 19 that he used to strike down the lives of six people and decimate 14 more..,,
The Pima County Sheriff’s Department was aware of his violent nature and they failed to act appropriately. This tragedy leads right back to Sheriff Dupnik and all the spin in the world is not going to change that fact.
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
72 Comments:
Liberal Democrats are the most miserable scum on the planet. Only they could be so classless as to use a tragedy such as this to further their causes.
How do they take a nut job who was on THIER fucking side of the political spectrum and spin it to be an attack against the right?
Pure, evil scum. May they all rot in hell with that thieving Irish prick Daley.
Well the republicans control the house so maybe this will derail these gun grabbers. The big hitch being that the right may want some type of security out of this too.
I do like the lefts' (inferred) theory that restricting high capacity magazines would have prevented this.
Or are they implying that 10 victims is better than 16.
Damn, I hate when a gun targets a human.
What is it that Rham is known to say "don't let the opertunity of a crisis go to waste."
Here comes the run on high capacity magazines.
Yeah, ban guns.
Because this nut case would NEVER have used a knife, a bat or a car to attempt to murder her.
Hey Sheriff Dupnik, you're no daisy!
Hey Jfled, good news! There may be a job opening in Pima County pretty soon. Pack your shit and head to Arizona asshole!
"Anti-Gun Crowd Drooling"
Drooling is a normal part of the anti-gun crowd's existence anyway.
The wounded Congresswoman was a gun owner herself and a supporter of the 2nd Amendment.
Not a gun in a holster anywhere in that crowd. You would think that in Tucson someone else would have a pistol.
The gun control people forget that for them the genie is out of the bottle. They will be the only ones who are disarmed.
Liberals, gotta love 'em. I just wish they'd all go to California or New York and leave the rest of us alone.
What many seem to overlook, this deranged killer was a doper. Who knows how warped his mind was?
He also had mental problems that somehow were discounted or even totally overlooked when he was arrested for some misdemeanors (were they dropped to lower charges because Mom was part of the County?? I guess clout is alive in Pima too.)
Overlooking a child's mental health issues until they kill some people?
Sounds like what happened here with Laurie Dann. She had issues but her family tried to keep it quiet - then she blew.
Before going after gun-owners, go after social workers not doing their job, county officials (like the Pima Sheriff) not doing their job, parents not doing their job and dope dealers.
This is good for a laugh in Breaking News:
"U.S. Rep. Bobby Rush moving office to safer neighborhood"
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2011/01/pols-security-getting-closer-look-in-wake-of-ariz-shootings.html
Because it now isn't safe in his congressional district. When did he notice that? Doesn't Obama live there?
There are a ton of crazy left wingers trying to use this to further their agenda. However, the reason they keep talking about the assault weapons ban that expired is because it would have prohibited the 30 round clip the guy had in his glock. Obviously, merely prohibiting something doesn't mean shit when it can be obtained illegally.
However, renewed portions of the assault weapons ban would allow things to be federally prosecuted. For example, you catch a guy with a gun on the street, he isn't a convicted felon, but he has a 30 round clip in his Glock. Wouldn't it be nice when he gets (and serves) YEARS in federal prison, just for the clip, instead of getting a walk at 26th and Cal?
You want stiffer sentences? Harsher penalties? Mandated prison terms for gun offenders? That, "never let a crisis go to waste" shit cuts both ways.
The problem is that liberals steer the argument their way, and there aren't any rational and level headed people on the right that can get more attention than fucking Sarah Palin and Glen Beck. So there is nobody anybody wants to listen to that effectively counters the liberals yelling.
Sarah Palin mind control. It's all Sahah's fault oh and Bush to...
Will the Clinton 94 Gun Control Act return?
There's not going to be any new gun control. On Sunday, when prodded on the subject on NBC, a Democrat Congressman stated that jobs were a higher priority.
I doubt there are many Democrats agonizing over how they can lose MORE seats in the House and Senate.
There are enough laws on the books to protect us. We only need the politicians and judges (same thing in most cases) to have the guts to enforce them.
The politicians are too worried about the votes to act in all of our best interests. Pandering to the most vocal sections of the voting blocks is better for them and the rest of us have short memories. It takes something big to wake us up.
Vote for the people that enforce the laws. Look at the hand wringing with George Ryan. "Let him out. His wife is really sick" He is a convicted felon. Justice is supposed to hurt. THAT is the deterrent.
I heard that one young man in the crowd had a gun but he was too far away from the offender to take a clear shot. He feared the possibiity of hitting an innocent bystander. We can be greatful for his common sense and knowing his limitations. An innocent hit by a well meaning citizen's bullet would have brought even more outrage by these a-holes.
I heard that one young man in the crowd had a gun but he was too far away from the offender to take a clear shot. He feared the possibiity of hitting an innocent bystander. We can be greatful for his common sense and knowing his limitations. An innocent hit by a well meaning citizen's bullet would have brought even more outrage by these a-holes.
Daley's a nut, quiqley's a nut, nobody at the rally in Arizona had a gun but the leftist killer so leaving your gun at home and expecting big government to protect you.. priceless.
"...we have a killing machine going on because of guns," Daley said.
We have a stealing Machine here because of The Daley Family. With crooked politicians having family members on the city payroll, and federal outsiders and city hall insiders as law enforcement stooges, you can't indict them all. City hall would be a ghost town. ShortShanks quick to draw attention to nuts with guns and not a stammering stumble mumble about Municiple Sewer Services.
Will the security details be expanded (exposed) at any cost now?
pension who needs it. i got a polar fleece that looks like the one's the feds wear a m16 and a tree 80. i got da world by da balls.
"Never let a crisis go to waste."
The Second Amendment is there to protect THE PEOPLE from the GOVERNMENT should said entity ever get out of control. The CPD is an ARMY with 10,000 cops...just sayin'. FIRST AMENDMENT!
They played a clip of Daley on Don Wade & Roma and he said about guns and murder "It's basically access to guns. It doesn't matter what your beliefs are, it's access to guns."
Here's a great video...http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1198792/american_dad_guns_kill/
Lol @ "targeting the high-capacity ammunition the gunman used"
I've heard of high-velocity ammunition. And I've heard of high-capacity magazines. But WTF is high-capacity ammunition??
Who writes this crap? F'king morons!
"Because only a Tea Party member could force a democratic sheriff to ignore numerous death threats against public officials in his jurisdiction because the offender had relatives on the Pima County payroll."
Sound familiar? Like....Chicago?
---not a cop
if you're gonna sponsor a piece of legislation at least know what it means. this is so typical:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ospNRk2uM3U
Mayor Shanks, are you going to purchase a gun after you lose your security army that you have had since birth? Jane Byrne didn't need security. I know you will need a GPS, you have never had to drive anywhere. You will have to learn how a car door opens, how an umbrella works,Rules of the Road, You will have to buy a car, learn to gas it up with the highest prices in the nation and pay for parking (highest in the nation) or you can ride with Burke.
I believe in a citizens right to own a firearm.
I also understand the ease with which a person can purchase a firearm illegally.
There has always been opportunistic people who would sell anybody anything(how did native americans get all those rifles)
But the system is not perfect. I personally know of a person with a mental disorder apply, and ultimately receive, a FOID card.
Only way it was caught was when it was discovered in the mail.
We go to classes to earn a drivers license, and others just get behind the wheel.
If you want to legally purchase a firearm, maybe there should be some sort of licensing class.
I know a mentally deranged person or a criminal would still be able to purchase that weapon, but at least the weight would be on him and off citizens who believe in the second amendment.
The punishment for using a firearm needs to be such that the illegal purchase and illegal sale are felonies, and the act which is committed with the firearm raises it to a higher degree.
How long before a massive law suit ends up in the Sheriffs lap ?
I LOVE my Country but I am SO frustrated with the blatant corruption at City Hall. Mayor Daley and his "crew" need to at least be investigated by the Federal Government or there truly is no justice. This "blog" is a POWERFUL source for information and WE are a POWERFUL source for real change. Not the promised "change" of Mr. Obama but something tangible that WE all the citizens of Chicago can see. I know I am not the only one that feels this way. Keep up the good work SCC, the "Powers that be" cannot silence ALL of the citizens.
My only comment concerns mayor Richard M. Daley:
YOU CAN"T FIX STUPID !!!!!
If you hate guns so much give up all your armed body guards ! Face the world as you force all law abiding citizen to do, Un-protected (by guns).
You are a Pscho Asshole !!!!!!!!!!!
this is rich in irony:
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2011/01/pols-security-getting-closer-look-in-wake-of-ariz-shootings.html
Guns don't kill people, Chuck Norris kills people
Shortshanks is increasing his protection army by 200 more commanders and 150 more m-4 trained officers.
Anonymous said...
The wounded Congresswoman was a gun owner herself and a supporter of the 2nd Amendment.
Not a gun in a holster anywhere in that crowd. You would think that in Tucson someone else would have a pistol.
The gun control people forget that for them the genie is out of the bottle. They will be the only ones who are disarmed.
1/11/2011 02:28:00 AM
Yeah,I was surprised too that no armed civilan was there,no cops either(no offense).Just goes to show you why you must be armed at all times.
always hard to say,but I believe LESS people would have been shot and killed had ANY armed presence been there.
Police and civilans should be on the same team,but some people just feel they are special and like being evil assholes.
This tragic event is further proof of why being armed is the ONLY way to go.Life isnt perfect,but why deny a CHANCE at saving life and limb???
Now they are blaming Rush Limbaugh what a bunch of spineless assholes! Did you see the democrat "attack map" same thing they blame tea party for nothing but liberal jags!
Again democRATic chicago style clout is partly responsible for the attack. And in typical daleyesque fashion the sheriff deflects blame onto others.
how s that gun control working on the south and west sides mr mayor?
Gun control is like communisum in that both have been implemented in large countries at some point in the last 100 years.
All one has to do is study the U.S.S.R and the U.K. to see that neither works.
Why do some people insist on clinging to failed ideas ?
Next they will lobby to bring back steam enjines to automobiles.
Idiots !
Finally maybe the Real Americans will wake up.
Dupnik is suffering from penis envy as a result of the positive attention bestowed on Arpaio and now he wants to play too
Really, at this late date who gives a shit what Shortshanks has to say about anything. Who's stupid enough to believe him, oh yea I forgot, the idiots who kept voting for him all these years .
Keep your powder dry, dark days ahead.
"This tragedy leads right back to Sheriff Dupnik..."
Saw him on TV whining about "guns." Complete s___head. As bad as Mayor Daley.
Did you see Jarad's mug shot? Check it out.. Mugshot
The campaign to raise spending on security for the politicians in Washington just passed the house.
I suppose the city alderman and the state will follow because as you should know by now -- 'NEVER LET A CRISIS GO TO WASTE"
We can use this as a reason to extort more tax dollars from the public. No, don't waste it. Get the money while you have their hearts and minds...use the force Luc -- the force of fear.
You see..
The problem is that Arizona doesn't have a gun database like Chicago does where officers and dispatchers know if there's a gun in the house. Then none of this would of happened..
/sarcasm
--clip--
[...]
One of the heroes who helped take down the Arizona assassin said Monday he was prepared to shoot the murderous maniac himself.
"I was ready to end his life," Joe Zamudio said. "I had my hand on the butt of my gun. If they hadn't grabbed him and he was still moving, I would have shot him."
Without hesitation?
"Damn right," said Zamudio. "This is my country, this is my town."
Zamudio, 24, spoke out three days after Jared Lee Loughner shot and wounded Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and massacred six other people outside a Tucson supermarket.
"I was at the store buying cigarettes," Zamudio said. "I was at the counter when I heard the gun shots. I put my hand on my gun and ran out."
The 911 tapes and rest of the story is here ?>> Joe Zamudio
If this guy wasn't carrying chances are he would of not ran towards the gunfire.
When he arrived on scene as the story goes the gunman already emptied one clip and 61 year old person knocked a second clip out of the gunman's hands, then a 71 year old retired army col. starts choking the gunman.
ALL DEMOCRATS ARE COMMUNISTS SAYS:
Gun Control worked, for Hitler...
Was the grocery store a gang/narcotics loitering hot spot.
I believe in a citizens right to own a firearm.
I also understand the ease with which a person can purchase a firearm illegally.
There has always been opportunistic people who would sell anybody anything(how did native americans get all those rifles)
But the system is not perfect. I personally know of a person with a mental disorder apply, and ultimately receive, a FOID card.
Only way it was caught was when it was discovered in the mail.
We go to classes to earn a drivers license, and others just get behind the wheel.
If you want to legally purchase a firearm, maybe there should be some sort of licensing class.
I know a mentally deranged person or a criminal would still be able to purchase that weapon, but at least the weight would be on him and off citizens who believe in the second amendment.
The punishment for using a firearm needs to be such that the illegal purchase and illegal sale are felonies, and the act which is committed with the firearm raises it to a higher degree.
1/11/2011 09:19:00 AM
I agree how dare someone sell or trade the Native Americans rifles to fight off the US from stealing and invading their land. Yet another reason why the Government needs to be checked...
Why do some people insist on clinging to failed ideas ?
1/11/2011 11:45:00 AM
because they benefit from selling these failed ideas to those who swallow them.
Yeah, ban guns.
Because this nut case would NEVER have used a knife, a bat or a car to attempt to murder her.
1/11/2011 12:42:00 AM
We should ban or limit how many baseball bats one can buy or make it that one would need a license or need to register said bat. This fee would be a one time fee ( for the first 3 years) to be determined by the City Counsel.......Gotta run....
Anonymous said...
My only comment concerns mayor Richard M. Daley:
YOU CAN"T FIX STUPID !!!!!
If you hate guns so much give up all your armed body guards ! Face the world as you force all law abiding citizen to do, Un-protected (by guns).
You are a Pscho Asshole !!!!!!!!!!!
1/11/2011 10:16:00 AM
AGREED 100%!!!!!
SCC, I know you aren't suprised at the speed of the Left to match this lunatic with the Right, the Tea Party, etc., but gimme a break already. This demented, satanically possessed soul is 22 years old, had an altar complete with a skull, whose favorite pieces of "literature" are the Communist Manifesto, Mein Kamph, and,I'll wager, The Turner Diaries, but was influenced by the Tea Party and the Conserative Right...rrrriiiiiggggghhhhhhtttt! Then, despite all this, this moron "sheriff" insists on the same. If anyone can help me, I don't seem to remember the name Dupnik in "1984", but what a doubleplusgood example of Newspeak! "We're at war with Eurasia...we've ALWAYS been at war with Eurasia." Long live BB!
Arizona Sherrif Dumpric was completely wrong.
Do we blame the spoon because Rosie O'donnell is fat ?
Anonymous said...
What many seem to overlook, this deranged killer was a doper. Who knows how warped his mind was?
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Most people that I knew who smoked weed usually fell asleep after listening to Pink Floyd and eating a bag of White Castles. They didn't go on a killing rampage. They cleaned up when they hit the job market.
It was more than a little weed that made this miscreant go tilt.
Anonymous said...
Did you see Jarad's mug shot? Check it out.. Mugshot
1/11/2011 02:26:00 PM
Uncle Fester??
Hey Sheriff Dupnik, you're no daisy!
Love this guy hes got a pair unlike you cowards who would sell out each other in a heart beat.
Gun sales skyrocket 60 percent in Arizona
In Ohio, sales spiked 65 percent on Monday, the FBI said. They rose 38 percent in Illinois, 33 percent in New York and 16 percent in Florida.
Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, cautioned that one day’s worth of data might not mean there will be a sustained spike in gun sales.
But he said it might indicate that some Americans fear tougher gun control laws in the aftermath of Saturday’s attack so they want to stock up now
Second amendment under attack?
How about the first amendment under attack!!
-clip----
Citing Shooting, Congressmen Eye New Curbs on Political Speech
[...]
Rep. Brady (D – PA) has promised to introduce new legislation to criminalize any political speech which could be perceived as incendiary, and other Democrats suggested that there should be a blanket ban on all speech and symbols which might be conceivably interpreted as incendiary against members of Congress.
[...]
Rep. Louise Slaughter (D – NY) insisted that the FCC should work hard to restrict political speech that “could incite people,” adding that “no one owns the airwaves” and that she clearly felt the FCC was not doing enough to regulate political commentary nor to sanction those whose criticism were unacceptable to her.
Was the grocery store a gang/narcotics loitering hot spot.
1/11/2011 04:02:00 PM
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No, actually it is in one of the better areas up in the foothills.
Where her office is located can be a little iffy but still not bad.
Stay safe....a wife (now retired)
@1/11/2011 03:37:00 PM
FWIW
Mr. Zumudio also stated during one of his interviews that as he ran out of the store after hearing the shots ring-out, he almost shot the first person he saw holding the weapon but by virtue of his keeping his powder dry and witnessess/bystanders telling him the person in possession of the weapon was not the shooter and pointing out the already subdued nut-job.
Zumudio also stated he almost went over to the crowd before going in to the store and that he thinks about that a lot because if he had, he feels he might have been able to take the shitbird out before getting all those shots off.
Responsible armed citizens are an asset, not a danger!
If these fucks that want to dis-arm Americans achieve that goal, they'll fuck us out of our Liberty.
Daley would do it in a Heartbeat. He's already grabbed everything that he can.
Mark Furman was interviewed tonight and he gave a succint perspective generally only a cop could give.
First, I paraphrase, he stated, Dupnik should have never opened his pie hole about what his opinion was vis-a-vis why the scumbag did what he did or what his political demeanor is. That's not Dupniks job and it was very unprofessional, Furman noted (sheesh Dems JFled's Obama endorsement).
Furman also pointed, out under AZ law, any patrolman had the latitude to have a citizen psych probed for 72 hours on the basis of a radio call and the scumbags behavior alone.
Furman also noted that the lack of any police presence at all to address traffic snafus that might occur or impediments to people comming and going from the stores during the Congresswoman Gabrielle Gifford's presence was a major, major error.
Furman added that the lack of a police liason present at such an event was a real failure in professional law enforcement.
I hope a real shitstorm finds its way toward Dupnik.
I don't wish him harm. I wish him unemployment, public shame and perhaps legal trouble.
Buck Naked
(not a cop)
Anonymous said...
Yeah, ban guns.
Because this nut case would NEVER have used a knife, a bat or a car to attempt to murder her.
1/11/2011 12:42:00 AM
We should ban or limit how many baseball bats one can buy or make it that one would need a license or need to register said bat. This fee would be a one time fee ( for the first 3 years) to be determined by the City Counsel.......Gotta run....
1/11/2011 04:54:00 PM
They got Julius Caesar with a knife. If they want to kill you, you are going to get dead. Knife, baseball bat, frying pan, TNT, machete etc.
Anonymous said...
Do we blame the spoon because Rosie O'donnell is fat ?
1/11/2011 06:18:00 PM
Many upstanding citizens used pot etc. in college and didn't go batshit crazy in shopping centers with pistols.
I heard the most dangerous thing after pot use was too many chocolate chip cookies and milk.
PM
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Did you see Jarad's mug shot? Check it out.. Mugshot
1/11/2011 02:26:00 PM
Uncle Fester??
1/11/2011 06:24:00 PM
More like a twisted Freddie Krueger. This guy is so sick he doesnt even know it. Can you say institution ?
Blame the sheriff!
Jared's mom is a county employee...check it out like the Sherrif.
The conniving rat daley will use this as a reason he and his entire worthless family should continue to be guarded 24/7 for the rest of his life. At taxpayer's expense, of course.
That piece of shit liberal sheriff sounds like he should be on J-fled's payroll. He'll probably be the next Supt. here.
Mark Furman was interviewed tonight and he gave a succint perspective generally only a cop could give.
First, I paraphrase, he stated, Dupnik should have never opened his pie hole about what his opinion was vis-a-vis why the scumbag did what he did or what his political demeanor is. That's not Dupniks job and it was very unprofessional, Furman noted (sheesh Dems JFled's Obama endorsement).
Furman also pointed, out under AZ law, any patrolman had the latitude to have a citizen psych probed for 72 hours on the basis of a radio call and the scumbags behavior alone.
Furman also noted that the lack of any police presence at all to address traffic snafus that might occur or impediments to people comming and going from the stores during the Congresswoman Gabrielle Gifford's presence was a major, major error.
Furman added that the lack of a police liason present at such an event was a real failure in professional law enforcement.
I hope a real shitstorm finds its way toward Dupnik.
I don't wish him harm. I wish him unemployment, public shame and perhaps legal trouble.
Buck Naked
(not a cop)
1/11/2011 10:04:00 PM
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I don't agree with the Sheriff's comments at all. I think they were dumb and unprofessional...but...you are talking about Mark Furhman formerly of LA right? The guy who perjured himself? WHo lost all his credibility? Maybe he shouldn't be talking about professionalism.
5:25 PM
I've met with former LAPD Det. Mark Fuhrman. While some may perceive him to be somewhat arrogant, one thing is beyond dispute. Even his critics will acknowledge he was one hell of a homicide dick. A bright guy who was taped by a police groupie saying something stupid earlier in his career.
After writing several best-selling books, he is living quite comfortably near Coeur d'Alene/Sandpoint in the northern Idaho panhandle aka "God's Country".
thats all mayor daley knows.. ban guns ban guns. thats his bs answer for everything. he doesnt care if a convicted felon out on parole gets caught with a stolen gun for the second time.no its just ban guns. they should have a mayor daley doll that talks. all it would say is ban guns, silly just silly,iam not aware!
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